Good first half for the Jayhawks. I like the line up with Rice and Udeh. Both are athletes. He tried playing to little point guards again early, and it failed miserably. I don't understand why Bill wants to double up on the teams weakness, which is point guard. It may look good in practice against walk-ons but it won't be successful in the Big 12 or good non conference teams. Hope he gives Udeh and Rice plenty of minutes in the second half.
Depends if I'm logged in under bowsite or the leatherwall. Happened to Shawn as well. One day I couldn't log into the leatherwall and had to create a new profile.
Miles is out for a couple of weeks. Eddie Lampkin has a torn Achilles. That’s a lot of production from those two, especially with Miles being a likely 1st rounder. Jamie Dixon put together a heck of a squad for this year but the loss of these two will be tough and felt.
Too many fouls would be the fault of the players not the officials. If they don't call them you will have a melee like 2020. Good win by KU, but Kstate looked unmotivated. Not much hustle by the Cats. Still wish Bill Self would not have called that timeout at Manhattan. I think it probably cost KU the game, and the losses following.
Being aggressive is usually a sign of motivation. The refs early on clearly let everyone know that they wasn’t going to let the Cats play. I’m not one that usually whines about the refs but it was a joke early in the game.
After that though the Cats had their chances but didn’t play well. I’m not impressed at all by that win.
Didn’t think you would be Calhoun……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. Not as impressive as an overtime win I guess. Jalen Wilson has scored 133 in the last five games. KU bench contributed big time — that has been a detriment all season. Every KU player that saw the floor scored. But none of that is impressive I guess. Oh one more thing, State scored 31 from the free throw line and attempted more free throws than KU.
Should’ve scored 51 from the line. It’s alright though cause everybody knows who the real team is in Kansas now. When people out of state think basketball in Kansas they’re automatically going to think K-State.
Whatever you say Calhoun……………..…… I can see how you might be confused though being from Texas, Coach Tang sure is. He said something in the post game about how K-State had always dominated KU and won more championships before 1988. Lol!! He’s been listening to his new fanbase too long now.
Ha! The mystery of the chant comes to light. “Little brother!” Love it!! Thanks for the article cowboy, I was trying to figure out what they were chanting last night.
Can’t come out flat and win at Hilton. KSU needs to sweep Texas to keep them from running away with the regular season. I’d say Texas leads the pack with TCU getting devastated by injuries. But yes, Iowa State is pretty salty, aren’t they 1-0 against the Kittens?
Baylor finally got Tchatchoua back. For people that don’t remember he was the high energy big man back that helped win it all 2 years ago. Hurt em bad when he went down last year with that bad knee injury.
Played some minutes today but not sure if he’s 100 percent or if he will be the same. If he could play like he used too that would sure help them. They have been missing some inside play.
I don’t think they were ever in danger of looking good. Got a flurry of 3’s from some guys that don’t normally take them and built a little lead while Texas played its worst half of the season probably. Cats have to lead the nation in giving up five-on-one offensive rebounds. Wish Tang would’ve called one of his pile of TO’s before Nowell drove and turned it over down 1. Oh well, Texas deserved that one. Hopefully the Cats are a little more fired up for TCU than last time.
You got to have a point guard, and good guard play. Harris had help last year with Ochi, but they don't have a 2 this year to make up for his short comings. He is being exposed.
I do think KU will be an entirely different bunch come tourney time. They are thin and pretty much exhausted right now. The amount of minutes Harris and Wilson are playing is borderline ridiculous. The week between conference tourney and real tourney will be very beneficial. Of course Self has had 4 or 5 seed teams flame out in the second round, and that could very well happen again this year, I guess we’ll see. I highly doubt they miss the tourney like Duke and Kentucky did shortly after winning national championships though.
You’re right about that durk, Duke and Kentucky have been paying big bucks for years. It’s nice finally see someone on here besides me acknowledge that!
Yeah Jeff I didn’t really watch them in the early games to see how he was playing. You’re right though here lately he seems to be the weak link in some of the games.
As much as it pains me to admit, I AM rooting for KU tonight. Clones will be leading the standings if Texas loses. That counts as a “State” fan, correct??
Naw I’d rather Texas win even tho they won’t. Think K-State can win the league with 5 conference losses so I’d rather see KU get their 5th out of the way now.
If Texas wins in Lawrence, after winning in Manhattan, they will run away with the regular season I’m guessing. They only have one more tough away game, Baylor in the last game of the regular season. Oops, my phone didn’t pull up the full schedule…They finish with the Hawks at home.
I say the same about Mizzou, I’d never say that about State though. But I’m not obsessed like you Kyle. Mizzou and Duke are the only teams I hate cheer for.
Never would have thought KU would win going away with Wilson scoring 2 points. Solid team effort, and great game by the bench! Harris looked very good as well.
We don't need the "between the wickets", or so many attempts at 3's early on...we ain't the Harlem Globtrotters! The foul on Nowell was indeed a flagrant at end of first half, but he redeemed himself and we actually played ball after the 25min mark.
When you have an honest school that preaches integrity and honor above all else it feels good. Even better when they start winning. It feels like a fresh breath of air to have a school like that to represent the state of Kansas…way to go Cats.
James I just know when I go hunt up there I run into 2 types of men up there. I’m not good with words so maybe this pic will get my point across better.
Hopefully you see now what I’m saying. I can’t help what I see up there…it is what it is:?)
Now I know not all Jayhawk fans are like this but for some reason I guess my luck is not that good cause this is the perception I get.
K-State is top ten in the nation, including the top college in the state of Kansas for LGBQT studies. Ummm, what exactly do you label as liberal social agenda — destruction of the nuclear family? Perhaps you and I differ greatly when it comes to that, and you are much more progressive than me. Maybe you’re just a fiscal conservative, which in my mind is not being conservative at all. I believe parents should be a part of “deciding what gender” their children are. I believe men should go to men’s bathrooms and the same for women. I believe biological males should never compete in women’s sports. I would bet this week’s paycheck that isn’t what’s being taught in K-State’s LGBQT classes. Otherwise they would not be recognized as the number 7 college in the nation in brainwashing their students with this crap. I believe this movement is a part of what will ultimately destroy this nation in the long run. Does KU do this too, I’m sure they do, but they aren’t being celebrated for it like the almighty beacon for truth and justice college, K-State University. Understand, this is why I roll my eyes and chuckle every time you post some drivel about conservatives cheering for KU.
Just so you don’t stick your foot in your mouth about this not being about classes, ALL public universities are required to be inclusive now, this isn’t about inclusiveness. The link has quite a list of interesting classes available to get your 15 credit hour minor in queer studies.
Alright James I’ll say something back so you won’t be talking to yourself.
I really wasn’t sure what them initials meant up above so I asked Erica just earlier. It’s a shame what the colleges are doing now a days but trust me…I don’t see any of these kind of people up there in North Central. They grow em right and they’re the salt of the earth up that ways.
James it’s not an opinion or a question. If no babies are being born we will disappear. The almighty made a human brain in a way to problem solve and figure things out whereas animals are built with great senses and awareness that we never feel. It’s sad though that somehow we have forgotten along the way what makes babies…sure glad the wildlife still remembers how.
Now let’s get back to basketball. I think with the addition of the big man coming back Baylor just might end up doing something. Got Oklahoma tonight…whatcha think?
Not sure Calhoun, Oklahoma is a conundrum. And I haven’t paid much attention to Baylor in a while. This time next week us KU fans will begin thinking about them though.
That’s gonna help the West Virginia resume! So, who from the big 12 is NOT going to make the tourney? It will be banner year for sure, hopefully some of them make it to the second weekend.
I agree cherney, some really good teams in the big 12, but no dominant team without a weakness or two. I haven’t paid much attention to Baylor, but they’re being discussed quite a bit on KU boards with the return of their big man. On the note of a truly dominant team, is there really one in any conference right now? Purdue???
Well they definitely ain’t there yet and got a little lucky to win tonight. The guards are super talented offensively but the difference from these guards compared to 2 years ago is these don’t play defense. Still too much one on one. Oklahoma was getting better looks at the basket tonight and that’s troubling. Coach better do something to get it right.
Porter just doesn't seem to have chemistry with his players like he did at Loyola. Should have brought sister Jean with him. I thought he was an excellent x's and o's coach there but they just don't seem to have shooters or athletes or something. Going to have to improve recruiting to compete with the top teams. Harris is playing better and with the development of Udeh, KU is on the right track. Harris will determine the success of KU in March.
Yep…atleast one Okie team stepped up last night! I do love it when Kansas A&M wears their “periwinkle” colored uniforms as they usually play to that standard when wearing them?
So, yesterday Crusty was out near Liberal, KS and rolled up on this fabulous place. Must of been an Omen for things to come? Nice convincing win that was very much needed. Gotta keep up the fight so we don’t end up 10th in the league and Conf. Tourney seeding that comes with it.
Assuming it was about 9am, was Frankamp already drunk?
While waiting court side to see and briefly visit with my brother in Chicago well after a game between Bulls vs Grizzlies had ended and the arena was about empty except for the cleaning crew…..I was able to get Pippin, Kerr and Kukoc’s autographs on a b-ball. While waiting on my brother, me and my wife had unknowingly sat ourselves down between the players locker room and where they parked their cars and they had to walk across the court right by us to get to the exit. Phil Jackson also eventually came by with his Stogey in hand and chatted with us for a few minutes but declined to autograph the ball. Put his arm around me and said “Sorry son, coaches don’t give autographs.” Nice man but after that encounter his image was a little tarnished in my view.
Unfortunately, Jordan and Rodman never came our way. So, the signed ball in my mind is woefully incomplete.
I’m just impressed that Kyle gets to fly first class. It’s always just a little embarrassing for me when my friends come to pick me up at the airport and they have to come to the baggage claim to get me. It’s actually a little fun to ride on that conveyer belt but I get tired of that big rubber piece that hits me in the head going through.
Now Crested that was the days when Jordan was playing. When I was a teenager and still living at home and not having a TV I would look in the paper to see when the Bulls were playing. If I didn’t have much going on and they were on TV I would drive myself into Waco and there was a couple different pizza joints that I would eat and watch Jordan. There’s never been another player like him and the NBA hasn’t been the same since.
You sure Phil wasn’t just being modest? You know maybe like not taking any credit for success so to speak.
Impressive! I had no idea Frankamp, Pippin, Phil, Kukoc, and Kerr had such close encounters with greatness!
The wife and I met Clide Drexler while skiing. He stood out pretty bad in the lift line. Shoock his hand and it was like being wrapped up by blanket. We were in CO to watch Jordan play. It was with the Wizards but still cool stuff!
Here’s wishing you a good day but going to throw in a tip to make it better. Around 3:00 or so I would go enjoy something outdoors and not be watching the screen at that time.
Later this evening when you find out it will sting a little but focus on all the good things you have going for you. Tomorrow you will feel better.
Going way out on a limb with that pre-game trash talk…aren’t ya Be Still. I obviously don’t have a dog in this tussle but just a little reminder that Baylor has won at Allen only TWICE in the last 20 yrs.
I just got home but I seen where it was a 13pt lead at halftime and they lost by 16. I mean that’s more than a butt whooping when you get out scored by 29 in one half.
I don’t even know what you call that. Maybe the Bears can do something in the NIT.
Listened to the game on the way home from buying a new-to-us Tundra. KU has a way of spotting teams double digit leads, they’ve been doing this for years, this year the results have been spotty at best. On the side of consistency though, I heard on the radio postgame that when Harris scores in double figures KU is undefeated the last two years, 20-0. I guess West is right about Harris, he might be the most important player in the team. Big game coming up against TCU next I believe. They must have Miles going again, they whooped Okie State today. Too bad OU didn’t finish the job against Texas.
First half, Harris had zero points and really did nothing. Second half he dominated. He is just so inconsistent. But in all my years of coaching basketball, I have learned that winning always goes hand in hand with guard play. Baylor is a final four team with those guards. So if TCU with Miles playing. And so is KU if Harris shows up.
Yes Jason I feel better this morning. I do wish since I didn’t watch any of the second half that somebody on here would tell me how they got beat by 29. Does Baylor suck that bad or did Kansas just play lights out or what. Without looking I’m going to put a little blame on Drew.
With that kind of talent you should be playing better. They haven’t been playing no defense but then again that goes back to the coach.
What are they saying that Tundra gets on gas mileage James? I heard the new ones get better.
It has the 5.7 Calhoun, so mileage will be pitiful. I averaged 14 on the way home from KC, driving around 70 most of the way.
As for Baylor, the defensive prowess that, in part, won them a Natty, seems to have left with Coach Tang. Although K-state wins with offense, not defense, so who knows? The KU radio announcers, biased of course, said Baylor guards shot the lights out of the ball, covered or not in the first half; but didn’t guard well most of the game.
Be still, I watched the game on TV and was trying to figure out how that big of a turn around happened. I looked at the box score and KU only had 4 turnovers. Is that an indicator of weakness in Baylors defense? It could be. In the first half Baylor was getting good looks at Threes, and they hit them. In the second half it appeared that KU made a change in defense that made the three point shot difficult to get, and when they got the shot unlike the first half they often missed. Rebounding was a big issue. In the first half, Baylor got almost every rebound. In the second half KU got them. I think the bottom line is for the first 15 minutes Baylor played with the most energy. It switched to KU for the last 25 minutes. For sure in the second half. If your three guards play like they did in the first half, they will be hard to beat.
Momentum is huge in that haunted barn. If a team can keep KU from going on their crazy runs they usually have at least a slim chance to win there. Usually what happens is that KU goes on a run at some point and starts feeling good about themselves no matter how poorly the game may have started for them. Baylor came out flat and KU came out with tons of energy and got some good looks and made shots and got rebounds. Baylor missed some easy ones and then some free throws and next thing you know they blew a 13 point lead...a couple minutes later they are down big and the game might as well have been over...
What happened was that KU turned up the heat on defense and kept Baylor of the offensive glass. Turnovers lead to easy baskets. Most of the time those are 4 or 5 point swings. Doesn't take many turnovers to erase a double digit margin. KU contested every shot and the law of averages took over for Baylor. Unless your Nova coached by Rollie Massimino shooting the ball at the clip which Baylor did in the first half will tail off.
Lee I didn’t you were a basketball fan but I have to admit your breakdown of the game seems reasonable. Rebounds and energy is very important.
Though I’ve never been there in person but I’ve heard like Patrick says here that’s a tough place to pick up a win.
Yes Jeff these guards are talented but the games I have watched this year they seem not have that get after work mentality. They seem to think they’re better than they are. But the last few games leading up to Kansas they seemed to be sharing the ball a little better and getting better shots off. Like James said losing the assistant coach probably hurt a little as well. They need to get their act together quick.
Kevin McCullers the player of the game. He’s still not 100% either — talk about a gritty performance for the whole team! Jalen Wilson’s worst game of the year; a month ago KU would have lost by 40 with him playing like that.
Kyle, nothing wrong with Leave It To Beaver reruns. I'm so old I already saw all the shows when they were on prime time. I thought June Cleaver was hot.
Be Still, I watch a lot of basketball. I haven't been to game Lawrence. I have over the years been to Manhattan a few times when a friend invited me when they had an extra ticket. I will be routing for Baylor when they play Texas. I believe KU, Baylor, and Texas are capable of beating anybody this year. They are probably capable also, of being beat by about any one in the NCAA tournament.
I watched this one and I can see why they lost so big the other day.
I think Drew might be in the early stages of dementia. You can’t win consistently if you can’t penetrate to the rim. Too many outside shots and very weak defense. They were playing this way earlier in the year and I was hoping they would correct it.
Some of the wins they have had probably been a little lucky.
James I watched your team last night. They looked pretty wobbly and was very fortunate to win that one. Now I think the win before that one was also a very close one at home as well to another unranked team. I didn’t watched that one but are they starting to go downhill some or what’s happening?
I'm a Cats fan but just saw a pretty amazing stat regarding Coach Self. In his 20 years at KU he's won 17 conference championships. In the same 20 years he's only lost 17 games at home. That's pretty wild!
I tuned in for a bit Saturday thinking Huggy had a decent chance to pull off an upset and help leave the door open for the Cats to squeak out a share of the conference title. It was obvious in the first 10 minutes the refs weren’t going to let WV build a significant lead. Shut it off and picked back up for the last 5. Same story. Bill’s a hell of a coach and their achievements speak for themselves. Just wish someday to see games played in that barn on a level playing field. They lose Saturday if that game is played anywhere else in the country, and from the reports of last night things were about the same.
Hopefully we get the best of three rematch next weekend. Go State.
Same old same old on here… KB check your foul count at Allen Field House west and get back to me. I believe what you’ll find is every home team USUALLY has a foul count advantage, UNLESS the fans don’t show up. If you think fallible refs aren’t influenced by high readings on the decibel meter, than you’re not well informed when it comes to collegiate sports, or any sports for that matter. KU just happens to have the best home court fans in the conference day in and day out when it comes to men’s basketball, and it’s not really even close.
The Big 12 is primed to do quite well in the dance, lots of solid teams. Does that mean the conference will make it 3 years in a row? Probably not, but it’s the betting favorite right now I’m guessing.
Everyone sees it Kaleb, you aren't wrong. I've already been in 20+ states this year and when I mention I'm from KS I have to say "not the KU part of KS".
It's not just me who despises the cheaters, it's across the nation.
Ku is a house of cards, and yes I mean about to fold...but also a card up your sleeve, trick deck, 53 card pile to cheat with.
Self's only legacy will be that of cheating the system, paying under the table, taking bribes, and tarnishing what some saw as a "top tier" fundamentally strong program. They'd have been nothing without the money to buy 4-5 star players...everyone knows that.
The first half last night was one of, if not the worst first halves of BBall played this season in the Big 12.
James, the foul count Saturday in Allen was actually pretty even. Which is telling because West Virginia outplayed/hustled KU and worked them over on the offensive glass. In a normal building that usually equates to drawing more fouls. Huggy wins by 10 if KU doesn’t shoot 17% over their season average from three. My issue wasn’t the fouls called, but the ones that weren’t. KU was allowed to hand check, hip check, set moving screens and go over the back at will. Those are called on the opponent in Allen and anywhere else in the country, no matter who the home team is.
It’s fun to win however it happens. I find it pretty amusing to read all the Bengals, Eagles, Bills fans whining about calls the Chiefs get, so I kind of get it. But there’s nowhere else in the country with as consistently lopsided officiating as Allen.
KU gets calls because their fans show up and are loud, simple as that. There’s a reason Jay Bilas says Allen Field House the best venue in college basketball. And Kyle, Coach Self will be known as the best basketball coach of the modern era before he’s done. Keep hoping for the downfall of KU hoops though, that’s about all you got during March Madness year in and year out. The NCAA isn’t gonna do jack to KU or Self. Oh yeah, it was a rebuilding year for that KU team that “sucks”, that team just won another conference championship. Good times!
Yes Kyle, they paid and I don’t care. Did K-State pay do the same before it was legal? Yes, yes they did. Paging Michael Beasley, Michael Beasley you’re wanted on line one. And don’t say he was just an isolated case, I can say the same about Desousa’s guardian. You do realize that AAU coaches received gifts from universities illegally for years, right? The coaches that “guided” kids to your team as well as others. It’s quite hilarious how naive you are to the world of competitive collegiate sports.
You bring up delusional Kyle, ironically on this subject. My question is, when Self receives a slap on the wrist, if that, and the university suffers no real punishment for all of the “drastic wrongs” that no other college is guilty of, will you quit watching collegiate sports? Will you give it all up? Kyle, I’m not the one who’s delusional on this subject.
There's nothing in the AAU scandal about State, but plenty about the hack's(see link).
As far as Beasley, here are his words, and the minute he found out his mom was getting payments from the AAU guy he fired him. None of which had anything to do with State.
KU cheats, and it seems to have rubbed off on their fans.
Having a conscience? Seriously???? Dude, it’s college basketball; if you get worked up about this, how can you function day to day? I save my heartfelt objections for something that really matters. Good grief Kyle!!!
I just looked at the dates and the authors of your articles, Illini? Wolken? KSconfidential?Now that’s funny! All of their dreams haven’t seem to come true according to the dates on those articles. Wonder if they’ll give up on college sports too??? Lol
I was taught at an early age not to judge people but it sure seems by Kyles’ links here that Bill Self didn’t win the right way. Pretty sad when you put winning and money over morals. Especially at a college level where your job is to teach young kids to be adults and to guide and show them the right way to do things.
Makes it worse when the coach has the ability to get the whole university, town, and even fans on his side. Now you got a whole community of people telling and showing young kids it’s okay to cheat. Dang this is so depressing to me. Don’t know if I’ve ever been through Lawrence and probably will detour around it if I happen to be in the area.
If you really think about it he hasn’t done much anyway. Not too long ago Big 12 as a whole wasn’t that good so those 17 titles or whatever he has is not comparable to the other coaches in more competitive conferences. Does he only have one National Title before 2022? Dang that’s not all that impressive and then you throw in cheating all that is nothing anyway.
If these links are true I would rather eat a sandwich while repairing a septic line than to wash my hands in Lawrence to eat a steak at one of their local restaurants.
Calhoun, you’re a trip. Tell me, since Baylor consistently gets high level recruits, they’ve had more four stars than Kansas the last ten years — Drew has been pretty good the last decade at doing less with more, but that’s a different subject. How are they getting them?? It’s definitely not with doofus Drew’s winning personality. He’s a tool. Dig deep and you’ll see your wonderful university cheats with the best of em! And I don’t care, do you?
Good grief, how do you fellas get out of bed in the morning? You get this “upset” about NCAA basketball (it’s not just KU), how do you make it through a day without prescription meds?? Both of your schools would take Coach Self in a heartbeat, and that’s the truth. Then you couldn’t cheer for them anymore. Lol
Done with this conversation for now, I don’t want Calhoun’s clinical depression to rub off on me. On to the next!!
Now I’m glad you threw in the link cause up above you was just judging Drew cause you think since whatever Self does every coach must do the same thing.
On the football rape thing I think they did the football coach wrong. I think there was something there and they blamed him to try and clear somebody’s else’s wrong doing. That’s just my opinion though. Back then I would have felt alright with my daughter being around coach Briles but I would have not trusted my daughter back then being a part of Baylor.
Of all those claims of sex abuse only about a tenth of that was related to sports and only 1 or 2 was convicted. Sounds a little fishy to me.
Another thing don’t make sense if there was all that rape why wasn’t Waco police involved. I think most Dads and I know for sure if my daughter was sexually abused I wouldn’t be letting the Baylor campus/bike security take care of it. There was probably something deeper there going on.
But supposedly at least something was done to try and make things better and move on. I’m not going to stand here and say since Baylor allowed rape and since they did then everybody does so that must make it right.
If there is some wrong doing then you take the punishment and take steps moving forward to try and be a better person. Sounds like Kansas is not doing that. Trying to buy lawyers to pay their way out so they continue to cheat is not the right thing to do.
James most people think Baylor won the title 2 years ago fair and square. For the most part I think they did but to this day I wished the coach would have offered to play Gonzaga a week later when everybody was fresh. I think Gonzaga was wore down from the game before. Still think we had the better team but the score might have been closer.
Nope just because a lot of people find ways to cheat doesn’t mean you cave in and start promoting it. Come on now James I’ve never met you but there’s something telling me you’re better than that.
Nope I don’t condone any wrongdoing. Along with that shooting they found some improper payments to players. Baylor received a really harsh penalty for that which was fairly deserved. They did their time and now hopefully doing better.
I guess you on the other hand thinks I should condone that and wished nothing would’ve ever happened to Baylor. I’m glad they received the penalty…makes people wake up and realize there’s a right and wrong way to do things.
Trust me James you will feel much better when the NCAA strips both of their tainted titles, ban Bill Self from coaching, place KU on probation for a few years with limited recruits. Then in about 6 years or so if they can make a clean comeback you will feel like a new man. Your conscience will be free and you won’t be that man that points your finger at other universities to try and justify the wrongs at your own.
Not gonna happen, keep dreaming tho. I can see why you were ashamed of your program, rape and murder getting covered up by the athletic department is something WORTH getting upset about. Paying players (one instance at KU that amounted to less than $1500), which is now legal and was done by the vast majority of universities is not. Did UCLA ever get stripped of all those titles?? What about SMU where a booster gave a Trans Am to Eric Dickerson, who now laughs about it, along with all the other athletes that were compensated? That’s what I thought. But keep dreaming Calhoun and Kyle, keep dreaming…… All those athletes are laughing at you!
Well when a man replies to his own question it tells you the conversation is useless to continue. Don’t know how many times Erica has told me the exact words. When she gets upset she’ll ask a question and before I get to answer it’s that…”That’s what I Thought”.
I always thought that was a woman thing but I guess not:?)
I hear the Big 12 is making a play to add Arizona, Arizona St., Utah and Colorado into the Big 12 which should implode the PAC-12 for good. Not sure if that play really moves the needle much in terms of interest and or better competition. Should give current Big 12 members atleast 3 easy wins in both football and basketball.
Probably won’t actually happen but if it does it will probably be a handful of years before those PAC schools formally enter the league.
In the grand scheme of things, I guess it doesn’t really matter much since the Big 12 will soon become a feeder system into both the BIG and SEC.
I think Arizona and Utah have solid athletic programs. Arizona State is usually as good as the average Big 12 team in football and basketball. Colorado is on the rise with Deion. Would be a fine pickup if they maintain their current levels.
In a national tournament scenario, every team in the big 12 is dangerous this year. Without looking at records, quad 1 wins etc, I’d say every team but tech and OSU will make it. And whoever doesn’t make it will definitely get an NIT invite. If I were a coach, I wouldn’t want to play ANY Big 12 team the first weekend.
I think everybody should get in except Tech and the Sooners. Like you said both of them could easily get a couple wins in the big Tournament. Oklahoma had some big wins and close calls on others with Tech being scrappy in some.
Sure hope OSU and the Mountaineers get in.
Look how I cropped this pic Kyle. Erica showed me how and gosh dang it worked. Better watch out now cause I’m going to be a cropping fool.
Lunardi has the the Big 10 with 10, SEC with 8, and the Big 12 with 7. KU with the overall number 1. I think maybe Purdue and Baylor play for the Championship. If KU is hitting the 3, they might make it to the championship game. There is a lot of good teams this year.
I’ll use this link as evidence, look at the quad 1 wins represented by the Big 12 and compare it to the Big 10…
ALL Big 12 teams rank in the top 25 except Tech and they rank 29th. The Big 12 is the best this year and it’s not even remotely close. Put any B12 team in the Big 10 this year and they would have 20+ wins.
Not familiar with the big 10 but I can’t see any conference any better than the Big 12 especially the SEC. I mean our bottom feeder, Oklahoma, just spanked Alabama’s …
Jeff you must see something in Baylor I ain’t seeing.
I like Baylor. Baylor shoots the 3 pretty well, and they take a lot of them. If they get hot, I don't know if anyone can beat them. Scott Drew knows how to win a national title. TCU just doesn't shoot the 3 well enough, but they do defend and get up and down the court better than anyone. Experience is a problem for them. KU needs to shoot the 3 better. They are well coached and can defend but the 3 ball hasn't been dropping. Just a wide open tourney really. Don't sleep on Duke, they are getting hot at the right time. We all know Alabama and Houston are good.
Tied for 3rd place in Big 12 has done gone to your head. We’ll see if your boys can keep from dropping 2 games in a row and to the Cyclones no less? Now that there would be downright embarrassing!
State gonna have to have a conference of one, the HKC — The Honest Kitten Conference. Maybe then they could actually win something!! Lol
Don’t worry Kyle, one day I highly doubt KU and State will be in the same conference, then you’ll have to find some other team to troll. Maybe State of OK? They cheat too ya know, but you’re not obsessed with them. Go figure.
Sure is keeping those recruits away like you said, and EVERYBODY is paying them now, even the kittens. I love your trolling Kyle, it’s highly entertaining.
Trolling, who am I trolling? I haven't waivered in 30yrs James, they cheat and have cheated...so by condoning, their fans are no better.
If it makes you feel good to somehow justify cheating by saying that "everyone does it now" that's your prerogative. Doesn't change the fact that they cheat.
Don’t care Kyle, don’t give a flying rat’s butt. Regulations that are selectively enforced are no regulations at all. It will forever be humorous watching you whine though. Lol
Dude, I’ve always respected you, Kyle. But making these kinds of comments is pretty classless while the man is suffering life threatening issue in the hospital. You’re better than that.
Speculation out there like crazy, everyone on the KU boards has an “inside source”. We’ll hear more details soon I’m guessing. If it is serious, I hope he sits out the rest of the season. If truly serious, I hope he walks away. Life is much bigger than basketball.
I'd say something is certainly wrong with him....cause he doesn't seem to realize he is wearing a purple shirt? Anyway, I'll speculate that he has had a cold lately (like everyone has) but due to his lifestyle it has hung on and hung on and become worse to the point he had to go the hospital where they realized he was also dehydrated. Thus, he is getting an IV...which he could have gotten from the training staff...or maybe had a blood clot issue or something? Hopefully, it is something minor like that and not heart related like alot of these coaches deal with.
This just in….Iowa St. has petitioned the NCAA to allow Baylor into their region of the upcoming NCAA tournament….claiming a “for sure” win since they OWN them. ISU beat Baylor even after they recently kicked their starting point off the team. Be careful when considering how far Baylor will go in your tourney bracket? A “paper tiger” for sure!
"If they get hot idk if anyone can beat them"...........apparently they weren't hot cuz a mediocre iowa state team has beat them in back to back outings.
Pretty true words spoken there Crested and I don’t really have a reply back. I do like how a man can still have fun with basketball even when his team doesn’t make the big dance. Oh yeah too…I would rather lose in this one instead of the one around the corner. Now you keep your eyes on them.
I got a lot of go-to-hell looks last night at Deano's in Wichita last night while wearing my TCU quarter-zip from the KSU fans. It was glorious.
I've never been a fan of Fort Worth Star Telegram writer Mac Engel but he hit the nail on the head here with NIL and the recent departure of Eddie Lampkin. ISU and TCU might've had addition by subtraction with these recent, mid-season departures.
Interesting read cowboy, I wondered what happened. I enjoyed watching him at times, other times he was just annoying. Too bad for him. I’m glad Miles is looking like his old self again. He’s a favorite of mine when it comes to non-KU players. Hope he lights it up again in the dance.
Wish they would have lost yesterday, no chance of the overall #1 seed now, a loss yesterday wouldn’t have hurt them anymore than a loss today. Oh well….
To be honest, KU’s improvement has happened in every phase but special teams, Sean is supposed to be a wizard there, so……good hire??? Feels weird to say that for sure. Lol
I don't think that Iowa missed a freethrow in that game. KU would might still be playing had they made theirs. And SC missed very few. The offense runs so effecient in the womens game. The rules follow the NBA and I like the 4 quarters much better than 2 halfs. The flow to the game is better without a media timeout every 4 minutes. Clarks skill level is unmatched by any player, man or woman.
If I remember right, KU missed the front end of 3 one in one attempts in the second half. If Iowa would have shot 72% they would have lost. Arkansas was 80% from the line. And KU lost by one. Clutch FT shooting in the second half would have made a major difference in the game.
They shot their season average… it comes down to they didn’t play well enough to win. UConn beat the team they lost to by over 20 anyway. What kinda “ifs” you got for that matchup?
Unfortunately for KU, you have to elevate your game in the tournament. What you did in the regular season isn't good enough in an elimination game. Your right, they didn't play well enough to win, especially at the free throw line. Kstate has only played for one national title, in 1951.
Lol Patrick, you do know every team has been paying legally for 2 years now, right? KU won a natty LAST year with not ONE big time recruit. Your pouting is funny. But now that State is paying players ABOVE the table (calling Huggy Bear to the courtesy table), maybe they’ll get to a Final 4, I doubt it though.
Couldn't miss from outside in the first half, and Iowa got into fould trouble which hamstrung their defense. Didn't quite agree with a few of the calls against Iowa. Would like to see these 2 teams play a best out of 5. Friday's games were awfully good!
Clark got screwed on the technical… and at a pivotal moment in the game. That was a huge penalty, and the timing was perfect to take the wind out of Iowa State during a comeback.
I hate saying refs can cost a game, and I can’t really say that here, but there were other calls/no calls that I believe were major factors in keeping LSU ahead in that second half.
Don’t mean to brag but y’all should watch more basketball… jk this is the least ball I’ve watched in my life and craziest tourney ever maybe? Beautiful sport
A quadruple by-pass and 50 stents later :?) he is currently the healthiest version of himself that he has ever been. Now with clear arteries...who knows how long he will be at "it"...whether that is coaching, cheat'in, you name it!
Good for Tang, never said he couldn’t recruit — the NIL coffers must be filling up,; do you still consider paying the players cheating? Might have a little bit a of a rivalry again, if State can keep him, meaning the coach, not the recruit. KU football might make the other side of the campus a rivalry soon as well.
Hmmmm....."committed" ain’t "signed." Looks to be a good one and since he is an Okie, he will no doubt turn out to be an upstanding, dependable young man whose word should be good. Therefore, I don't see any reason to believe that he won't eventually "sign" with the Periwinkles ;?)
Maybe you’ll hear of him next year…. Good for Tang, he can recruit for sure and the coffers must be filling up to pay those players. You don’t still consider that cheating, do you?? Be nice to have a little rivalry in the State again, it’s been a while. Speaking of rivalry, look out for that Leipold guy…..
It’s not against the rules now so it’s not cheating… that’s how cheating works… you understand that right? Leipold is a phony and will soon wish he’d bounced out of Lawrence
It’s not against the rules now so it’s not cheating… that’s how cheating works… you understand that right? Leipold is a phony and will soon wish he’d bounced out of Lawrence
Making 5 million… which I believe is a Top 25 salary. And he’s 8-17 at Ku. I know it’s not his fault he’s drastically overpaid but KU has a history of getting excited about bad coaches and forcing themselves into perpetual losing with bad football coaching contracts. This feels like another one to me.
Lol, yeah you have absolutely nothing to worry about, oh fan of a program that thinks it’s good, but has never won anything meaningful. I just love State fans like you and Kyle, highly entertaining!!
Never won anything meaningful then why do y’all brag every time you win the big 12 and make t-shirts about winning 13 straight? Didn’t realize the fiesta bowl is less meaningful than the orange bowl? Also y’all are the most highly entertaining. Literally the worst power conference football team in the country the last 10 years but still getting on online forums and gloating… what gall you clowns have
Never won anything meaningful then why do y’all brag every time you win the big 12 and make t-shirts about winning 13 straight? Didn’t realize the fiesta bowl is less meaningful than the orange bowl? Also y’all are the most highly entertaining. Literally the worst power conference football team in the country the last 10 years but still getting on online forums and gloating… what gall you clowns have
When have you EVER seen me brag on here about a big 12 championship in basketball? Gloating is now defined as optimism? Check! Are you so deluded in your fandom of State to think that me hoping KU to be more of a rival in football to a team that is mildly successful as gloating??? Now that’s gold Jerry GOLD!!!
I was very disappointed to see Udeh enter the portal, he’s a talent; now I see he’s visiting K-State. That would be an interesting destination to say the least. Of course, Kyle and Patrick would hate to see a cheater come to State, I’m sure. Lol
Kyle don’t be a hypocrite now. All kids who come to KU are cheaters. They are paid illegally to be there, don’t you know? It’s ALWAYS been this way, with EVERY player, once a cheater always a cheater. Actually, I knew you were all talk, you and everybody else would take Self in a heartbeat if he decided to coach at State.
Personally West, I could care less if Self develops big men into NBA all stars, the NBA bores me. I’ll take a DMac leading them to a championship every day of the week. He was the true MOP of the tourney in ‘22.
Lol, whatever it takes to make you feel good about your kittens Kyle.
KU picked up a big commit from the portal on the gridiron side, DE from Auburn. Needed him desperately after the departure of Phelps. Is it September yet???
McCormack had 2 good games in 4 years. He just happened to have them at the right time. Overall, he was a huge disappointment, even being benched his senior year. The NBA is so good right now. Far from boring.
Nah James since you ain’t sniffling and behind the couch trying to peek around at the TV through your fingers in front of your face I reckon Football hasn’t gotten here yet.
I understand Kyle, you’re gonna have to begin getting used to losing recruiting battles to KU, that’s gotta be a tough pill to swallow. Especially since it’s football and your go-to “cheaters” excuse won’t work. :-)
We weren't actively recruiting him James, nobody was really. Hell, he had to pay for his own trip to cheat-ville. Congrats on discovering a nothing burger.
Cheatville….. just couldn’t resist. Got a lot of preseason all big 12 athletes on that team of yours! You don’t need to recruit with talent like that! Lol
Embiid didn't even play one full season. I am talking about guys like the Morris twins, Greg Ostertag and Jeff Withey that stayed with the program for 3 or 4 years and developed under Manning. KU did nothing to develop Embiid. He was a one and done.
He’d hardly ever played basketball before KU, and he was a lottery pick, I believe coaching had a little something to do with that. His footwork improved incredibly that year.
Oh and Kyle, Kamara will be a 3 star soon, so hang onto that “not ranked” jab as long as you can.
That is not true. He played H.S. basketball. He had a mentor to develop him before ever moved to the U.S. He even went to a private high school specifically for basketball. He may not have played AAU ball at 5 or 6, but that means nothing anyway. He was a freak athlete 7 foot tall. He could have went to Fort Hays his freshman year and had the same result in the NBA. He success had nothing at all to do with 4 months of basketball at KU with a broken back. Besides this is not relevant anyway, we are talking about players who have stayed for 4 years and improved every year developing into an all league player. Hasn't really happened since Withey. Unless you call Lightfoot a success.
Those players will never stay in the program 4 years anymore. And if you didn’t see improvement in Embiid that year, I honestly don’t know what to say, hard to believe a coach would say that. His improvement was incredibly obvious. Btw, when was Withey or either Morris twin an All Star?? I am mildly amused with the NBA, not entertained by it at all, so maybe I missed those fellas’ highlights. Doke has had as much success in the NBA as Withey.
With all this "commitment" talk, it must be TALKING SEASON??? Just remember, it's a long time between now and "Signing Period." Kind of like waiting for deer season to start-up again...but longer!
Umm, I think I’ve made it clear I cannot wait for the start of college football. And trust me I know as a KU fan they aren’t locked in for a while; but there’s a reason college football talk revolves around recruiting this time of year, AND have you watched the Royals lately???? Btw Crested, I saw the REAL Sooner team won another championship, congrats!!! Group of classy gals right there!
It’s ‘24 recruits. Get with the program there Kyle, or can you not read anything with Jayhawks in the pic?The sickness runs deep! Lol The ‘23 class is already on campus.
Pretty nice class for sure considering where they’ve been. Definitely won’t finish 40 spots behind the Cats this year if they hold it together. Still not much momentum for the in state kids though. Cats have three of the top five and at least a shot at the Junction City kid.
Hawks have to have the toughest schedule in the conference this year. I’d be very impressed if they make a bowl.
Out of high school they can but they get to that school and they mess em all up. Now quite a few though ain’t even from Texas…for example this little pumpkin.
You see Texas is Already grooming him…literally look at his nice little hair…to show off and try to look good instead of playing football. Look at the poor kid trying to flex his muscles for the camera…looks like he’s going to pull his hamstring before the season even gets here. You see he’s supposed to be the the quarterback…the so called leader for the team and they got him doing this.
In the background….busted up columns and hoodlums looking on from above. Are they working out at Huntsville C-block? What has UT been doing with all that money that OU brought to each member of the Big 12 the last 21 yrs. by making it to all those BCS bowl games, Natty Games and CFP games?
Hell, OU’s sustained success has either funded or partially funded just about every Big 12 universities recent stadium upgrades. That is exactly why the stadium in Manhattan is called the “Bill Snyder Family Stadium-that OU Built.”
Pre-Season rankings...what a joke! If it wasn't for new Big 12 members, KU would be picked 3rd from last. Therefore, not really much of an improvement to warrant screaming from the mountaintops about.....Progress?
Uhh, Crested, KU has been picked last for over a decade now, so yes that’s improvement. It means KU is no longer an afterthought. I listen to quite a bit of sports radio out of Tulsa and OKC, if you don’t think KU is beginning to turn a few heads, you’re wrong. Of course, I’m not even sure why I’m responding to a lower end, middle of the pack, SEC fan. Btw, where is OU on that preseason polling??? Behind State? Oh yeah, I forgot about OU’s POST season ranking last year. Didn’t they have the same big 12 record as the lowly Hawks???
Better stick with your flagship program, women’s softball.
Oh crested, it’s gonna be so fun watching you Boomer fans walk off into the sunset with your collective tail between your legs. KU has long way to go, but the journey will be fun. Remember, I don’t have the same expectations as the high and mighty OU fans, in football season anyway…. I will say this, good thing for those talented gals of yours; otherwise, how long has it been since a national title???
LOL, OU will be just fine. I know why you're responding...because you just can't help yourself. You're right POST season is all that matters....kind of like "signed letters of intent" vs. "commitments." Will be interesting to re-visit this pre-season ranking in December...especially for the bottom tier of the league that includes the majority of the new members mostly picked to finish near the bottom along with KU. I for one, hope these 4 new members shake things up a bit.
Really looking forward to attending the game in Lawrence on 10/28. I have fond memories from attending that game in Lawrence 2 yrs. ago (and just 20 rows directly below me) as Caleb WIlliams stuck a dagger in the heart of KU nation by stripping the RB of the ball and lunging for that critical first down to then run the clock out for yet another OU victory vs. KU....the 17th straight at that point.
Now don't you be getting distracted by "pre-season" football rankings. Remember this is KU....wouldn't want you to get your hopes up and then being disappointed again and again and again. You surely don't need yet another disappointment in your life.
You guys are really talking about NBA summer league??? Well okay, this is a real NBA player scrapping in summer league. Oh, and btw, Christian Braun will be STARTING for the defending NBA champs next season. Keep cheering for the little guy though, with a little luck, he might make an NBA roster.
Nothing new from an institution that gave us basketball players sniping students with pellet guns from dorm windows, basketball and football teams brawling over a chick, porn stars invited to sit on the sidelines by the AD, Snoop Dogg and his strippers, and a basketball player rubbing his junk on a school employee in an elevator. Pretty typical.
Colorado officially back in. Oregon and Washington meeting with the Big 12 tonight. AZ held an emergency meeting. Going to be real interesting the next few days.
AZ, AZ St, and Utah coming to the Big 12. I feel bad for Oregon St. I would've liked for them to get invited. New facilities, good in football and baseball.
KU looked pretty good in Puerto Rico, and Johnny Furphy wasn't there. Someone else will have to red shirt along with Clemence with him coming on board.
Jeff you keep talking about not deer hunting no more as well. One of these crisp late October or November days I’m going to stop by your house and you’re going to jump in the truck with me.
We’re gonna go hunt and later after dark we’re going to watch a college football game while having a beer and you’re going to enjoy it:?)
What in the Wide, Wide, World of Sports is going on? I’ve been off the grid since Fri July 21 (except for 1 bump in early August prior to the KBA Summer Rendezvous post) and I come back to civilization and the following has happened:
1. We all knew “Neon” Deion was using the transfer portal to field his first team at Colorado. However, “Neon” Deion got the entire Univ. of Colorado to enter the transfer portal to the Big 12. Impressive work, LOL!
2. Then I see that UW and UO go to the Big 10.
3. Then I see that AU, ASU and Utah recently joined the Big 12 to round off 4 new PAC-12 members to the Big 12 of which could be the ultimate death blow to the PAC-12 as we all have known it.
Let’s not forget this 2011 statement (see pic.) from then PAC-12 Commissioner Larry Scott when the PAC-12 was looking into adding OU, OSU. Tex. and TTech. That “snooty” decision didn’t age very well for them, LOL!
Fun stuff! I guess Kyle can’t watch college basketball anymore. Just food for thought Kyle, the NCAA WAY, WAY overreached on this. As a result they look very foolish. Did KU speed a little bit? Yessir they did, 60 in a 55 will not get you a ticket though. You could even argue that isn’t really a law, since everyone does it. You do realize that this is all about DeSousa, right? His guardian was paid less than $2500. And he was suspended for a full season as a result. Like I said, 60 in a 55 and the fine was paid. Enjoy your Juco ball this year, since you can’t watch real basketball anymore. Lol!!
Funny, I don’t remember telling you KU was the defending NATIONAL champions last year, maybe I did??? Some things don’t need to be stated. But if you wanna keep bragging about the kittens’ “monumental” accomplishments go right on ahead. We’re riveted!!
And one more thing about that ‘22 Natty, to quote my favorite line from Tombstone, “This time it’s legal!”
Seems kind of funny that the group IARP doing the investigation a good while back was done away with cause they wasn’t doing a good job…said after this that group is no longer.
Doesn’t matter anyhow cause Kansas ain’t no good. I’ll say it again…Kansas gets all the top players and most of the time still can’t do nothing. Like sitting beside a feeder in a High Fence place and still can’t shoot a deer….
When was Kstate's last natty in football or basketball? Oh you have never accomplished that? Hell you couldnt even win a BCS bowl game but the Jayhawks got you there too with an Orange bowl win. Living rent free in your head.
With the rise of KU football, State will begin the decline. Too bad Snyder is coming to KU games now, he won’t save you again. Lol
Calhoun, I can’t figure out if you’re trying to pull a Brian Kelly or what? But State fans don’t talk like that… Your use of the double negative actually makes the claim Kansas “does something” and they “are good”. So thank you for complimenting the Hawks, appreciate it!
Yep you know how I use double negatives James but your smarter than that. That’s why deep down I know you know what’s right. A team like Kansas that does negative things just to try and win is not a positive thing…
You fellas are absolutely clueless (since you’re relatively new to this discussion Calhoun, I’ll give you a pass) and it provides a tremendous amount of entertainment. So I guess I should be thanking you. So, thank you, keep up the good work! I just wish KU got to face Baylor this year on the football field too! And Calhoun, you lost me on the double negatives; so that’s an attempt at humor?
Some people have to cheat to win, certainly not something you'd teach your kids...or expect from your mother or Father. Then other lowlife's will condone, and even celebrate the cheating.
KU has been proven to cheat, they've now vacated wins, and are on probation. Don't be like KU.
You do get lost pretty easy and sometimes I’m not sure if you know if you’re coming or going but it’s alright. I mean just last year you thought it might have been a good thing if Kansas would just lose in basketball.
Something came across my news feed about the cheaters getting spanked again. Also something about a Kansas started mouthing and the coach not behaving. You would think after getting lucky and getting off the hook they would at least could fake some good behavior…I guess not.
