Air rifles now legal
Wisconsin
The Gov. signed a bill legalizing air rifles to be used for deer hunting. 30 states have done so. 13 of them allow air bows. However air bows are not legal in Wi., for now.
You already know where this is headed...
Let's start the list:
1- What are you afraid of? Are they shooting YOUR deer?
2- That ship has sailed, let it go will ya!
3- It won't impact me.
4- I could care less what weapon is used as long as it's legal.
What am I missing???
It will recruit more hunters,,,
We need to stick together...
We're all brothers.....
Blah...Blah...Blah...
Well I think Retro is concerned, that even though the air rifle is used in Gun Season, won't be long before they try for the Air Bow, for Archery Season.
Might be 10 years out, but we will see..
Our legislatures are a joke to deer mgt. Stupid idea, in my opinion. Address the Issue, which everyone knows what the Issue is
I saw it mentioned on Facebook as being a huge win for sportsmen. When I questioned how I or other sportsmen won, I was called selfish because now felons would be able to deer hunt and why do I only think of myself. Uh, if they purchased a bow, they always could have hunted. And I do not, for one minute, believe this issue will not make its way into the archery rules at some point in time.
Of course airbows will become "archery". With today's logic, they most certainly meet the definition of archery in every way. How could you argue there not? When it happens, it will be a time for celebration and group hugs...
Regardless of what the weapon is or could be the resource has always fallen short never enough , not even close . The exception to this reality is private land where the government has no or very little control . No need to debate this or believe a weapon choice is a threat to the hunt . If we want the hunt to be something more than what it has always been the government would have to be removed .
Fair Chase goes deep , much more than what weapon is used .
One more tool to silently violate game at night. All about Money not the Hunt.
LTL JimBow, As usual I can't make heads or tails out of what your talking about, but there's nothing "deep" about any of this.
Arrow, do you really think the legality of a weapon is going to make a difference whether one poaches or not? One thing that the air gun/bow differentiates its self from the Xbow and bow is the lack of a string.
And Scope and shoulder held gun which makes it easier to use at night. ( Vs the vertical Bow) Or daylight. Hell lets make it legal to use our 270's starting m in Sept . Make life easier without any dedication to America or the sport of hunting. That's the New American way. ie, paying off all college debt.
In today's world you could take a high powered rifle, load it with bullets, duct tape a quiver full of arrows to it and today's " sportsmen" would say..."that's definitely archery equipment."
Retro is correct. Just think of it as progress, or a participation ribbon.
Arrow, Smart poachers don’t want to track deer! They want it to drop in its tracks. A high powered rifle with the newest night infrared scope is a poachers gun. Try to pinpoint a single shot, damn near impossible.
I hope the day never comes when the report of a fired rifle rolling thru the woods is a thing of the past
I have no problem with air rifles in firearms seasons if the power is sufficient. Some of these new air rifles are quite impressive. I oppose air rifles that shoot arrows in archery seasons as the energy is not coming from drawn limbs.
I see the ones that do not know the difference between archery gear and shoulder fired weapon gear are getting back into it. Retro, good one on the quiver on a rifle. Kind of like aaaaaa xgun!!!.
I thought maybe this was an April Fools Joke
You are paid by them also DPMS? Wow... a lobbyist for crossbows, a physical therapist and now lobbying for the x bows nearest relative.... another gun. You must be rolling in the cash!
One has to wonder how much longer before we will be required to wear blaze orange during "archery" season?
"You are paid by them also DPMS?
No, I am not.
"One has to wonder how much longer before we will be required to wear blaze orange during "archery" season?"
Hopefully never. In Pa, archers were required to wear or display orange during certain times of the year. I and many others were able to successfully lobby our game agency to remove this requirement completely. This requirement was in place prior to crossbow inclcusion but was removed several years after crossbows became legal.
Dpms,
By lobbying for crossbows during archery season, you obviously realize you paved the way for airbows to be considered archery equipment at some point. Now that shoulder fired weapons are considered "archery" there will be no basis for keeping airbows out of "archery" at some point. You mentioned an airbow is different because the arrow isn't propelled by energy stored in limbs or something to that effect. Good luck with that. The argument will be that the weapon is no different from a crossbow. Both fired from the shoulder, propelling an arrow. Of course as with crossbows, fitting them with scopes won't be an issue either. Funny thing is, once they gain a foothold, I would expect the crossbow industry to go bye-bye...as I'm sure the airbow will end up being superior performance wise as well as less mechanical issues? Exactly what the masses are looking for.
You mentioned being opposed to airbows in "archery" season? Why? It will be just another "improvement" to "archery" just like your beloved crossbow... Remember everything is always broke and needs fixing!
So, lets bring in more technology into hunting/fishing. I see now one of the questions in the CCD is to ban the use of forward facing locators for fishing? That has caused an uproar in the fishing community, lol. I honestly hope they at least make it so you cannot keep fish if these units are in your boat or ice fishing. Same with non-archery related products, reduce the damn length of the season if you don't want to bow hunt.
"You mentioned being opposed to airbows in "archery" season? Why? It will be just another "improvement" to "archery" just like your beloved crossbow... Remember everything is always broke and needs fixing!"
You answered that question already in your first paragraph. The energy that propels the arrows does not come from drawn limbs or limbs/cams. That will be the basis from which I am other will continue to oppose the legalization of "airbows" in archery seasons. Time will tell how it plays out. Many also will say that the acceptance of the compound bow by the masses paved the way for crossbows. We will see if everybody that currently hunts in archery seasons with traditional gear, compounds or crossbows can put their differences aside and unite against air powered weapons in archery season or will people continue to fight each other from their corners.
As far as my "beloved" crossbow. I enjoy hunting and target shooting with many different weapons. I love them all.
So first time around you rallied for shoulder fired weapons in archery, and now your wanting to unite against shoulder fired weapons in archery? Lol.... Good luck!
Traditional archery, compounds, crossbows, rifle, muzzleloaders, airbows, air rifles it’s all in the plan to divide us and eliminate hunting altogether.
"So first time around you rallied for shoulder fired weapons in archery, and now your wanting to unite against shoulder fired weapons in archery? Lol.... Good luck!"
The first time around I lobbied for shoulder fired bows in archery seasons that propel arrows from energy in drawn limbs or limbs/cams. I already answered why I oppose air rifles that shoot arrows in archery seasons. It has nothing to do with what position they are fired from. We need some luck the way hunters like to attack each other.
"Traditional archery, compounds, crossbows, rifle, muzzleloaders, airbows, air rifles it’s all in the plan to divide us and eliminate hunting altogether."
And plenty are willing to help! There are ways to oppose something without attacking fellow hunters. That is what divides us.
If it's about uniting, then who are you to oppose airbows during archery season? Just another weapon that fires an arrow that might bring in more people. Just like the crossbow did to " archery" season. Just to summarize... opposing crossbows as a weapon = bad. Opposing airbows as a weapon = good... Lol... Planet of the apes...
"If it's about uniting, then who are you to oppose airbows during archery season? Just another weapon that fires an arrow that might bring in more people. Just like the crossbow did to " archery" season. ."
If you actually read what I state, maybe you would understand my position better. I oppose air rifles that fire arrows in archery seasons just as I would oppose a device that uses an explosive charge to fire an arrow in archery seasons. Neither are propelling the arrows with energy that is stored in drawn limbs or limbs/cams.
As I said before, there is nothing wrong with opposing something. It is how you do it. If the opposition is about attacking other hunters, there is no legitimate basis for the opposition other than division and just not liking something or someone.
"Just to summarize... opposing crossbows as a weapon = bad. Opposing airbows as a weapon = good... Lol... Planet of the apes.."
That planet is not a summary of my position. I support airbows as a weapon. I would suport them being legal wherever air rifles are legal to take game. That is in firearms seasons. I oppose air rifles that fire arrows being legal in archery seasons.
Divide us? Yes, the inclusion of those sure did. Did you expect cumbia? Quit this "divide us will end hunting crap". Any group or organization has rules, ethics and bylaws within them. Those have no bearing on the world outside them. Just another grasp at including non-archery equipment into the once was archery season.
"Divide us? Yes, the inclusion of those sure did. Did you expect cumbia?"
Unfortunately for you, crossbow inclusion has resulted in a lot of people that vehemently opposed them in archery season now being indifferent or supporting their use in archery seasons when the boogeyman stayed in the closet. There are still those, like yourself, that wish to divide within the archery world, but thankfully, those numbers are shrinking.
LOL, yes, because of my thinking and discussion, I know more that have quit the xgun and went back to a bow. Also, more and more are going to traditional archery. I want to divide the archery world? The way I and others look at it, I am the archery world, xguns? Well just are not!!!
All I have to say that prostitution is legal in Nevada, would you take you kid into the Kit Kat Club.
Tim Meigs bowyer Duo-Flex bow had his home shop in front of the Kit Kat Club, alway thought what would happen to miss the target and went through the window.
To all the trad hunters you are last of the breed.
dpms - You can tell these guys, but not much.
"LOL, yes, because of my thinking and discussion, I know more that have quit the xgun and went back to a bow. Also, more and more are going to traditional archery. I want to divide the archery world? The way I and others look at it, I am the archery world, xguns? Well just are not!!!"
This coming fron the fellow that said killing a deer is as easy with a 30-06 as it is with a crossbow(x-gun), lol. When I brought up the principle of the speed of sound as it relates to the ability of a target animal to evade the projectile after the shot, its been crickets on a real discussion about where the weapons are the same and where they are different. But, that doesn't stop you from repeating mistruths, despite facts slapping ya in the face.
Anyways. The thread is about air rifles.
Based on your own logic, if you oppose airbows in any way as a weapon, you are potentially causing a divide in hunters. Pot meet kettle... One things for sure...if it wasn't for the legalization of shoulder fired weapons in archery season, we wouldn't be having a discussion right now about the possibility of airbows entering archery season in the future...
How do you shoot a 30-06, an xgun and an airgun? Same way of shooting, same easy outcome out to 100 yards (per the manufacturers). So, yes, as easy as shooting a gun, if you can shoot a gun.
"Based on your own logic, if you oppose airbows in any way as a weapon, you are potentially causing a divide in hunters. Pot meet kettle... "
Nope. it is how one opposes not what one opposes. That is what is divisive. That is a concept that folks that use attacks as a means to oppose do not understand. I think most hunters would be united in opposition to an initiative to allow poison darts for deer hunting. Opposing that is not divisive if the rationale is free from insults and focuses on why it is bad for the sport and/or the resource. If the discusison is filled with insults, attacks and slights, then it becomes divisive.
"How do you shoot a 30-06, an xgun and an airgun? Same way of shooting, same easy outcome out to 100 yards (per the manufacturers). So, yes, as easy as shooting a gun, if you can shoot a gun."
From the shoulder but irrelevent to the assertion you made previously which was killing a deer with a gun was as easy as shooting one with a crossbow(x-gun). When one realizes their mistake, or when facts are slapping them in the face, they usually deflect or change the specific topic as you are. Some man up and admit they were wrong on that specific point. There is no getting around science and deer being able to move out of the way of arrows and not high velocity bullets. The lack of hydrostatic shock is another. Drop. Wind drift. All facts that also slap you in the face when the talk is actual killing deer between the two weapons.
If you want to just talk about specifically the act of shooting and not the act of shooting and hitting a deer, that is a different discussion which is the one you are trying to deflect to. The actual act of shooting is very similar between the weapons.
Unless you shoot a vertical bow, a lot different and a lot more difficult. The affect of how the kill happens? So what. It is the ease of how the projectile is delivered, that is what is in question here, not how the animal died from the projectile.
Benjamin airbow advertises 8 shots at 450fps with each pressure regulator. Crosman advertises 2 inch groups at 50 yards. Those specs sound identical to another shoulder fired weapon already deemed as " archery" doesn't it? Lol...
Live - DPMS dances and defends the unarguable truth that the weapon belongs in gun season.
And remember, he got to see the wizard about a brain.
Retro - DP almost had heart failure when the Raven said " Your next rifle". He shared on another site how he and others contacted them about their marketing strategy and how it negatively impacted the work he and others were doing to get the weapon in archery used by all.
They talked trash about this site, Wisconsin Bowhunters and in particular Mr Kulas being the road blocks.
Oldie it's a good thing you showed up!
Used to be there was self-imposed limits to test one's stealth and skill, thus the archery season. Now no limits to the choice of weapon. Plasma gun with laser sight mounted on the shoulder, complete invisibility....
Pasq, You gotta laugh when the manufacturer compares it to a gun, and yet the supporters still argue. Sounds divisive...
PMS argues from a hollow, illogical perspective. Yet, some will accept his line of crap, just as they do from Biden and his commie liberals. Enter oldie, the head-bobber, as proof of this.
"Benjamin airbow advertises 8 shots at 450fps with each pressure regulator. Crosman advertises 2 inch groups at 50 yards. Those specs sound identical to another shoulder fired weapon already deemed as " archery" doesn't it? Lol..."
Those specs are similar. The big difference, which you neglected to mention is how the arrow is propelled, which is compressed gas, not energy from drawn limbs or limbs/cams. Should Rambo exploding arrows be legal in archery? You know. They are fired from a hand held, hand drawn compound bow, lol. The "specs" of his bow are the same as a Hoyt.
"Live - DPMS dances and defends the unarguable truth that the weapon belongs in gun season. DP almost had heart failure when the Raven said " Your next rifle". He shared onanother site how he and others contacted them about their marketing strategy and how it negatively impacted the work he and others were doing to get the weapon in archery used by all. They talked trash about this site, Wisconsin Bowhunters and in particular Mr Kulas being the road blocks."
Glad you mentioned "arguable". I prefer discussion to arguing but there are also many that believe it belongs in archery season so the discussion(arguing) continues. As for Ravin. Yes, not too happy about their marketing strategy, but it was brilliant from a business perspective. Responsbile folks understand that 100 yard shooting at game with arrows should not be taken lightly. Unfortunately, many new folks entered the game and took bad shots. It did cause myself and other a lot more work educating new folks joining the ranks.
Now onto this site. Some good folks here. Have talked to quite a few of them. Lots of good folks on the Pa forum. Talked to many there and met some of them. The issue is not Bowsite or Wisconsin Bowhunters. That is a mistruth, which often comes from your fingers. It is the bad spots on the apple that are addressed. Mr Kulas and yourself being two of them.
Dance Mr Astaire dance around the truth. You prefer discussions and drink with your pinky out too.
Dp just what does a Field Editor for Crossbow magazine make? Glassdoor says 60 - 90k but thought I'd ask you?
So you state the scope on your crossbow has a built in range finder in it which eliminates you having to do the work of marking the yardage manually...
Anything to make it easier.
"Dp just what does a Field Editor for Crossbow magazine make? Glassdoor says 60 - 90k but thought I'd ask you?"
No longer hold that position. When I did, I did not draw a salary. I was asked to contribute to the startup by a friend. It was fun, but when it became more actual "work" than I wanted, I left. I did get to keep some product at times. Often times it had to be shipped back on my dime. When you factor in time spent reviewing, writing, editing, photography, it wasn't worth my time which is another reason why I stepped away.
"So you state the scope on your crossbow has a built in range finder in it which eliminates you having to do the work of marking the yardage manually... Anything to make it easier."
Pretty cool technology. Vertical archers have embraced it too with the Burris Oracle and Garmin Xero A1. You know, anything to make it easier..............
"Pretty cool technology. Vertical archers have embraced it too with the Burris Oracle and Garmin Xero A1. You know, anything to make it easier.............."
Ah yes, the truth comes out, kill em all the easy way. That is what bow hunting was all about right DPM? What a joke the hunting community has become.
"Ah yes, the truth comes out, kill em all the easy way. That is what bow hunting was all about right DPM? What a joke the hunting community has become."
That should not surprise anybody. The indians drove the buffalo off of cliffs. When it comes to hunting for sport or for food, some choose the easiest way, some choose the hardest way and some choose in between. We all hunt for our own reasons. Sometimes I carry the flintlock rifle in our rifle deer season. Some carry self bows in archery season. God bless them all and I thank them for continuing to hunt and supporting the sport.
I can see why a crossbow enthusiast is worried about compressed air. In the near future, that compressed air is going to make crossbows worthless...Lol! Better sell your crossbow now dpms... It's going to be a short lived run...
Yes DPM, we are in the same world as the Indian's were, no worry about impact of technology and the easy button. Supporting hunting has nothing to do with ethics and responsibility within the community. Of coarse, your probably one of those who does not have to deal with the travesty the easy button and the liberals have put on us in the large forest public areas.
I would like to know why he feels the need to come on the Wi site and " discuss" anything. In particular when crossguns are mentioned ?? Do you guys frequent the PA site?
"Yes DPM, we are in the same world as the Indian's were"
That is why I also said the below...............
When it comes to hunting for sport or for food, some choose the easiest way, some choose the hardest way and some choose in between. We all hunt for our own reasons. Sometimes I carry the flintlock rifle in our rifle deer season. Some carry self bows in archery season. God bless them all and I thank them for continuing to hunt and supporting the sport.
"I would like to know why he feels the need to come on the Wi site and " discuss" anything. In particular when crossguns are mentioned ?? "
Hunting is under attack everywhere. It is not just a one state issue. Hunters attacking each other is something that concerns me and many others . Discuss the means and methods all one wants to, civilly. Good discussion ensures the best outcome. Hunters are much more effective lobbying for the sport when we can respect each other. Build bridges, don't burn them. Personal attacks have no place, but the antis love it.
"Hunters attacking each other is something that concerns me and many others"
Again, come up with anything to make these weapons be equal and you do not loose face or money!!!
"Again, come up with anything to make these weapons be equal and you do not loose face or money!!!"
Few weapons are "equal". I have never said the crossbow is equal to anything else. What I have said is I believe they should be included in archery seasons. I have no illusions and am up front that they are a superior weapon to traditonal and vertical equipment. Just as the compound bow is superior to a longbow.
You are not on any other bowsite state site except PA that I can see. And you write this? "Hunting is under attack everywhere. It is not just a one state issue"
How about ummm ... Montana? They got it right unless of course the state is full of the antis you spew your BS about.
From regs- According to Montana's hunting laws, crossbows are “non-archery” weapons because you're not physically drawing them and because they have a gun stock.
"You are not on any other bowsite state site except PA that I can see. And you write this? "Hunting is under attack everywhere. It is not just a one state issue"
This is one of the forums were hunters attacking hunters is quite common, unfortunately.
"How about ummm ... Montana? They got it right unless of course the state is full of the antis you spew your BS about. From regs- According to Montana's hunting laws, crossbows are “non-archery” weapons because you're not physically drawing them and because they have a gun stock"
Some would make the point that they have it wrong. Hardly any posts there the last time I looked. The western states have been a tough nut to crack, except Wyoming, were crossbow have long been excepted. No worries though. Many keep workng to crack those nuts.
Yup WI is the only one.... you are exposed again. And Montana????
Hmmm, wrong? Archery was brought in and started by those who wanted to hunt with a bow and arrow, as in, shooting with a physically drawn bow at the point of the shot using an arrow with a broadhead at close ranges. Anyone wanting to challenge themselves and learn to shoot a bow well enough to be successful was able to. As long as they were using a physically drawn bow and arrow setup. None of these seasons included the use of any shoulder fired weapons (xguns/airguns). That was the reason for allowing an archery season during the breading seasons of the animals and allowing the length of seasons they do. So, Montana has it right and kudos for them to hold true to archery hunting as it was meant to be.
"How about ummm ... Montana? They got it right unless of course the state is full of the antis you spew your BS about. From regs- According to Montana's hunting laws, crossbows are “non-archery” weapons because you're not physically drawing them and because they have a gun stock."
However Montanas archery season is only about six weeks long compared to Wisconsin at about approximately sixteen weeks plus. Montana's general firearm season follows the archery season and is about five weeks compared to Wisconsin's general nine day season. Substantial differences in seasons.
Each state may have varying regulations, but currently 30 states have non restrictive use and inclusion in archery seasons.
Comparing western states, Montana's neighbor, Wyoming has had full crossbow inclusion for going on fifty years. Guess they have got it wrong all those years.
Live - You wrote -"Anyone wanting to challenge themselves and learn to shoot a bow well enough to be successful was able to". This is what archery was meant to be, a challenging sport. When I went to the crossbow because of serious shoulder problems, it became the most anti climatic hunting I've ever done which is why I've hung up that crossbow forever. I know when fall rolls around it'll be killing me not being out in the woods doing the thing I loved most.
Montana regs -
The archery season is September 7-October 20, rifle season is October 26-December 1.
" they are a superior weapon to traditonal and vertical equipment. Just as the compound bow is superior to a longbow" LOL the above statement is most ridiculous . I have said this before , When someone hates archery , most likely its due to target panic. iIt's that simple , they have target panic .
Severe target panic to point where drawing and aiming a bow becomes pure torture. The only option left is to eliminate the draw ,hold , and aim. Enter every weapon the industry can think up to eliminate archery and the possibility of target panic. It's that simple.
"Dpms, give it a rest."
This is relaxing for me. :-) No worries.
Hoot, just so you know, I never had issue with someone that cannot physically shoot a bow anymore going to one to still hunt. Just a thought, the 60's gen had a great thought on life, they thought anyway. Good sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Then the chase for better turned to bad drugs, STD's, and Disco. Those people that chased became dead young, junkies or very sick. This technology and ease of taking game reminds me of this. I can only hope the outcome isn't like the 60's turned into.
"Montana regs - The archery season is September 7-October 20, rifle season is October 26-December 1."
Doesn't the season lengths in Montana come out the same as the way I stated it ?
"However Montanas archery season is only about six weeks long compared to Wisconsin at about approximately sixteen weeks plus. Montana's general firearm season follows the archery season and is about five weeks compared to Wisconsin's general nine day season. Substantial differences in seasons."
Reality is if the crossbow is allowed in the firearm season ( Oct.26 to Dec. 1 ) that would be in the prime time hunting season .
Live - I know you you never had an issue with the crossbow for the elderly or physically unable to shoot a bow. I sure wish I'd be able to shoot a bow again but it is what it is.
I think alot of what's happened to hunting can be attributed to our societies poor health. We are out of shape, overweight, and as a result unmotivated. That's why technology has become such a big part of hunting. People are no longer healthy enough to hunt. That's where deer farming, condo stands, game cameras, guns during bow season, utv's etc...all reduce the need for physical fitness. Years ago people went after the deer. They can no longer do that. Now they need the deer to come to them. If your physically fit, your more apt to not find any enjoyment in using technology to bridge the gap.
Dpms- did Todd get upset when you decided it was too much effort being a field editor for crossbow magazine?
Oldie- I don't ever trust your stated words and posted the regs. Sorry if it insults your ego.
"Dpms- did Todd get upset when you decided it was too much effort being a field editor for crossbow magazine?"
No. We talk all of the time.
" Oldie- I don't ever trust your stated words and posted the regs. Sorry if it insults your ego."
Didn't insult my ego, sorry to disappoint you. However it did raise concerns on your math skills.
Oldie- it didn't disappoint me at all. You are known to speak with forked tongue and wanted to present confirmation of your senile gibberish. Good discussion though!
thought a good while before posting this, many here really do not care, BUT for the good wi outdoors folks, I am now recuperating from my 4th shoulder surgery ! The rotator tear surgery of last march went o k, but evidently an anchor let loose and lodged in my ball joint , creating havoc, all this after 2 major back surgeries 15 years ago ! First bow hunt 1966, $1.oo tag, longbow, a few years later a recurve, many years later ,compound bow, after back surgeries and first 2 shoulder surgeries had to go to xbow or stay home watch the view, not the challenge ,BUT,. after this last surgery I am really hoping to work with P T Guy to be able to shoot compound bow once again !! HOPEFUL< NOT SURE !!! P,S, I would have back surgery again before shoulder surgery, Shoulder recovery is long and painful
thought a good while before posting this, many here really do not care, BUT for the good wi outdoors folks, I am now recuperating from my 4th shoulder surgery ! The rotator tear surgery of last march went o k, but evidently an anchor let loose and lodged in my ball joint , creating havoc, all this after 2 major back surgeries 15 years ago ! First bow hunt 1966, $1.oo tag, longbow, a few years later a recurve, many years later ,compound bow, after back surgeries and first 2 shoulder surgeries had to go to xbow or stay home watch the view, not the challenge ,BUT,. after this last surgery I am really hoping to work with P T Guy to be able to shoot compound bow once again !! HOPEFUL< NOT SURE !!! P,S, I would have back surgery again before shoulder surgery, Shoulder recovery is long and painful
The Wisconsin Bowhunters Association as well as its ally Safari club, supported the air gun bill. To be correct, when saying Safari club, as they imply, it is not the actual Safari club organization, it is only the independant SE Wisconsin Bowhunters chapter.
In the April 5th edition of the Wisconsin outdoor news, and in the letters to the editor, Mike Brust, the WBH legislative liaison and former WBH president stated and this is a quote, " WBH strongly supports and promotes ALL types of legal hunting and trapping. Guess that excludes crossbows, which are legal.
Mentioning the Wisconsin Outdoor News, I'm surprised nobody mentioned the article in the recent April 5th edition, by Dean Bortz. Titled "Air guns now legal for use in Wisconsin." If your blood pressure is a little low, you may want to read the full article.
The question is not what is legal, the question is it should not have been made legal. The WBH never mentioned xguns or airbows, just legal hunting/fishing/trapping. Now, a bill comes along and gets pushed through not having a majority vote on it and it is made legal, we have to go along with it? F No we don't.
Grouch, I'm pulling for you. Either way, I'm good with it. Hopefully you can get back to a bow and back into bowhunting again.
Oldie, as usual, you are wrong again. It was not the bowhunters chapter but rather the whole of all the chapters. What is really amazing is how you live in your own little world with your own made-up facts. You want to be a he, she or something in between is your choice, just don’t try spreading your crap to others.
Senility showing again Oldie.
The ones that are for this should pm gun (Gunner Lempke), he use to live in La Crosse and is living in Alberta ,Canada. He had to switch to a mouth release for his recurve because of his shoulder injury, he shot a moose and mule deer, he is back with fingers on the string, You can pm him on the Leatherwall for verification. Got to cowboy up and become men and be a bowhunter. I am like Oldie except I continue to hunt with a stick bow with another torn rotator, no excuses or leave.
"Senility showing again Oldie" There is no doubt about that. It actually amazes me that he pretends to be informed when he continually embarrasses himself. Kind of reminds me of a president we have...
At the rate we are going this will be next .
