Why not do both? I will prepare me and mine and also F.R.O.G.
A guy is in his house when horrendous rains start falling. The water begins to rise, and before long it becomes a major flood. The roads are covered in water making driving impossible. After awhile, a boat comes along.
A rescue worker in the boat yells, “Come on! We’re here to save you! Get in the boat!”
The guy in the house responds, “No! I’ve got faith that God will save me!”
After an unsuccessful rescue attempt, the boat leaves. The water continues to rise, and the guy is forced up to the second floor of his home.
The county sheriff’s boat comes along, and the sheriff yells, “Come on! You are going to drown if you don’t get in the boat.”
From his second floor window the guy says, “No! I’ll be okay! I have faith God will save me.” The boat moves on.
The house, except for a small part on the roof, is submerged in water. The guy is on the roof as a helicopter hovers overhead. The pilot shouts out, “This is your last chance! Climb up the ladder to safety! If you don’t come now you’re going to drown!”
The guy hollers, “No, thanks! God is going to save me!” The pilot shrugs his shoulders and flies away.
The house is covered, and the guy is swept away by the flood waters. He ascends to the Pearly Gates, where God is waiting for his arrival.
He asks God, “What happened? I have been devoted to you and had absolute faith that you would save me. Why did you let me down?”
God answers back, “What more do you want? I sent you two boats and a helicopter!”
I don't think it's all about "the end". I believe it's more about food shortages, oil prices, earthquakes etc., and mainly not trusting the government. And not relying on the government. Being more self-reliant and being able to survive if and when those times do come
If you want to see how things really end, get hold of two books: "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon", and "How the Irish saved Civilization by T. Cahill".
The Roman people became prey to both barbarians from without, and out-of-control government workers from within. The money was devalued, property was confiscated, and all culture and morality was swept away. Even people who stored grain -- the preppers of their day -- were at risk from rapacious hordes of government workers and gangs of (illegal aliens) invading barbarians. Only the strong, the crafty, and the lucky survived.
Don't get me wrong, guys. Be prepared to defend yourself and sustain yourself for a few days in case of a short lived problem such as an earthquake or power outage. The extent to which these guys are preparing for, however, will likely be something like the true end and you don't want to be here for that. It doesn't end up well for anybody.....still here, that is.
That's pretty interesting stuff. Funny when you get into more rural AZ, this preparation is simply a part of life. Almost everyone I know has massive food storage, water, etc.
I think the most interesting, if not concerning element is how Americans, maybe the most comfortable and often complacent people are almost instinctually preparing for some type of major "event".
It's like how after some time living in the mountains, for example, you just know when a big storm is about to hit. But in this case it's not just those in touch with the land, but your neighbor, your friend, your in-law, all recognizing that things are changing way too fast.
It's not quite the same as our grandparents building bomb shelters in their back yards in response to the cold war, but it has the same feel.
"Normal", educated, rational people are feeling the need to stock up on food, water, cash, guns and ammo.
Just one last analogy to frame this phenomenon. A commmon athiest theme is to invoke the idea that upon death, there is nothing, an eternal emptiness.
If you ask someone who believes in this idea, "what if you're wrong"? The answer is paradoxical. If they're right, they can never know they are right - if they are wrong, then they have committed the the ultimate act of denial - and now have to deal with a reality beyond life itself.
There is no winning answer for those who deny life after death. Only an empty, black vaccum devoid of anything including them could possibly prove their theory, and how can absolutely nothing be interpreted as anything?
On the other hand, there is no losing answer for those who believe in, and embrace something beyond this physical life? If they are right, they will be prepared for it. If they are wrong, than nothing they will have planned for or believed in will matter, or even exist, when they no longer exist.
Once I got bored enough to actually look at the hot pepper thread, I was immediately reminded of the same story that gflight posted!
Nothing wrong with being prepared, body and soul.
Even though the people on the show talked about "the end" I believe they were talking about the end of this culture as we know it. Why would anybody need to prepare anything if they firmly believed THE END were at hand.
Ammo is critical. It is something that everyone will need and so can be traded as readily as any other commodity. Just have plenty of .22s, a small game hunting staple, some shotgun shells, an assortment of common rifle and handgun rounds, as well as plenty for your favorite weapons. Trade what you don't need.
Alcohol would be highly tradable, as well as food, clothing, etc.
Planning to sustain yourself for a few days until order is restored is one thing. But to me, planning for years and years of survival in a totally devastated environment seems like a futile attempt to prolong the inevitable. I guess I just don't see myself running around with my group and fighting with other small groups of holdouts just to be the last man standing.
The accusation of insanity came after he went to see his cardiologist for some chest pains and shortness of breath. So far, it sounds sane and rational to me. The cardiologist, Dr. Andre C. Olivier, whose name and contact information I am delighted to publish, had Mr. Sarti held at the hospital for psychiatric evaluation and broke doctor patient confidentiality by contacting the authorities.
Then it really went to hell on a greased slide. Mr. Sarti, because of his stay in the psychiatric unit, was then declared “mentally incompetent”. His very large collection of guns was then stolen removed from his possession. He is no longer allowed to own weapons.
Welcome to the America we live in today. The country has devolved to a point that being eccentric means the constitution no longer applies to you. What is next? Already, believing that the gold standard is the only way to correct our economic ills makes you a target. Bloggers and writers of alternative media are all on a list, with our computer systems under nearly constant attack. I spend as much time fending off malware and viruses as I do writing this blog. Anyone who disagrees with the government is not labelled an “extremist.”
Make no mistake, this show is pure propaganda. Its primary objective is to make fun of these people and cast them as a small group of ignorant odd bodkins at best, and dangerous at worst. Notice how many shows depict the government as sane, smart, and in control while anyone who opposes them is either crazy, criminal, or just plain stupid. This show is just another one.
Right, Blue. That is the whole point of the show.....to make the "authorities" look smart and well-adjusted sensible folk, while the "Preppers" appear as non-conformist dummies and conspiracy nuts.
On a similar note, ever notice how a lot of commercials make the middle aged WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) look stupid, while the monority, usually a woman, looks bright, knowledgable, and very cool?
If not, start noticing. You'll be amazed at the workings of the propaganda machine.
God's deliverance has never been by Rapture, He had Noah build an arc to the saving of his house. If God gives us warning of the time at hand, End of Age or what ever you want to call it,. Then you can have the arc, ( spiritually and physically ) prepared.
A lot of rapture believers will be highly dismayed to find that the rapture(Harpozo) is actually at the end of the Great Tribulation time and includes the witness that are killed and lay in the streets for three and a half days before they are raised up, stand on their feet and taken to God. Unless you can show more than one place where the dead in Christ rise first and then we which remain are caught up to be with them you need to mentally, spiritually, and physically prepare as God shows you. I have watched this show in interest and with great amusement at times. One thing I think is absolutely stupid of these people is that they are pubically outing themselves . thats the last thing folks that truly wish to survive should be doing.
I do like some of the programs due to the sake of interest. I do not have to agree with everything about them to find them interesting. For example I like finding the truth about Islam. That does not mean that I like Islam. LOL./
I do like some of the programs due to the sake of interest. I do not have to agree with everything about them to find them interesting. For example I like finding the truth about Islam. That does not mean that I like Islam. LOL./ I can always turn the sound down when they start the Gorbal Worming.
Yeah, I don't view this upcoming series as a "Rapture Reality Show" either... ;^)
Quite the contrary, actually. Many Rapture folks that I've known don't usually ascribe to stockpiling these basic necessities of life and/or weaponry to this degree.
Personally, I think it's wise to be prepared ahead of time for massive electrical, water & food outages, etc, as we don't always know when a natural or manmade disaster might occur.
I will also state that there are plenty of provisions in the Bible for either a pre-trib, mid-trib or a post-trib, and all-of-the-above "Rapture" or "rapio" events, with "rapio" being the old Latin word where that term "rapture" originates from, BTW...
Arguably, several "Rapture" events appear to be documented throughout the Bible, with the first recorded one being attributed to Enoch in Gen 5, "who walked with God, and suddenly was not"...several thousand years ago.
The second was when God "took up" Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, as recorded in 2 Kings 2.
The third & most famous one was when Jesus was "taken up" by a cloud after his resurrection, commonly found in Matt 28, I believe...
Other mentions of potential "Raptures" are found in 1 Thes 4 & 1 Cor 15 that are likely pre-trib(?); saints in Rev 7 which is possibly during the Trib; then the 144K Jews in Rev 14; and the two-witnesses that Sixby himself mentions who were clearly "raptured" in Rev 11 & 12 well before the end of the great tribulation and prior to the actual Second Coming of Christ where Jesus finally sets foot upon the Mount of Olives, splittin' it wide open. Read it for yourselves and do your own counting...
Bible prophecy is an interesting topic, for sure.
I'm no prophecy scholar by any stretch, but I try to investigate every side of the story as best as I'm able, and in doing so, have ended up with a great deal of respect for all of those who've invested their lives into uncovering these truths for us....regardless of their conclusions, to a great degree anyway...
And I'm certainly not one to call them "stupid" for taking these great initiatives and foregoing the risks of being called "stupid" by stupid people for all of their many efforts... ;^)
I watch Nat Geo all the time. There are a lot of interesting things to be seen in this world that most of us will never be able to witness. Most of the ones I like pertain to space, the cosmos, the universe, how life works in general, etc. With that being said I know a lot of people that don't like it because it contradicts or doesn't focus strictly on, their belief of how and why we are here.
Before you become a prepper, you need to know how you will answer the "Susy" question.
THE SUSY QUESTION:
Little Susy lives next door. She is as cute as any little six year old kid could ever be. She has been in your house a number of times, looks up to you, and trusts you.
Things hit the fan, you are forced to use your stockpiles of food and water to keep you and your family fed and cared for. One day Susy comes knocking and asks if you will please share with her (and maybe her siblings and parents) because she is VERY hungry.
What will you do?
If you don't share with Susy, do you deserve to go on living?
If Suzy eats deer meat or fish she would be in luck. You can dry both if electricity is off for a long long time. Salt helps too. Water is no problem at all, I have two wells and can easily put a hand pump on either one. I live in the woods so fire wood is no problem. My big problem would be insulin and when I ran out I don't think I would live long but would try and leave the family in good shape before I bit the dust.
Noah did not close the door to the arc. God did. I would never refuse food or water to a person that was hungry,. Still I will provide the best I can for family and all I can and trust God still to provide more if that runs out. God bless you all, Steve
Yep, Noah & family entered the Ark by way of The Door, and in there they were preserved in safety during that time of wrath, which the Flood has been called...
In Revelation 4:1, we again see an open Door leading to refuge from the time of wrath to follow, but this time The Door doesn't lead to an ark filled with animals, per se. It's a means of escape from the greatest time of wrath that shall ever come upon the earth...
"For then there will be Great Tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be." (Matt 24:21)**
"After this I looked, and there before me was a Door standing open in Heaven." (Rev 4:1)
"For God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain deliverance (preservation, safety, salvation) by our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Thess 5:9)
"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the time of the coming of the Son of Man." (Matt 24:37)**
Well SA, I've never been a bettin' man... But if I were, I might be inclined to take you up on that one.... ;^)
Suffice to say that things are, indeed, coming together at a relatively rapid pace these days in accordance with end time Bible prophecy.
I am suspecting more & more that there may be a major war brewin' in the background that's looming over the Mideast, and it's liable to involve Israel & the US, along with the major players of Russian, China, Persia (Iran), and others...
I don't know everything about how & when it's going to wind up bein' carried out, but I'm certainly keepin' my eyes peeled in that direction.
Stay tuned to the Bowsite for further details, and as always, any BREAKING NEWS events will be aired right here as they occur... :^p