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What things have others said here about Obamcare that qualify to you as hate?
Medicare "is pretty Ok right now?" Do you know anything about anything that's true?
"Obamacare is taking off?" Really good job so far. Only about 2% of the 46.5 million uninsured have signed up in 6 months. Great job Obama and DC. What a roaring success because mpcone says so.
I would not be against women voting or slaves being free or 18 year olds voting. I like how trolls just feel the desire to make stuff up about those whom with they disagree.
Unfortunately you would not know what side of history is right or wrong based on what I have seen so far. I would say your just confused but its obvious your just wrong instead.
Do you believe the president needs to follow the rule of law? If yes then about 45 million people that can't afford Obamacare will be fined for not having it. 80% said they are not signing up because they cannot afford the exchanges rates.
Obama wants to extend the deadline for those who had problems signing up but legally speaking he cant so there is that problem as well. He will circumvent the law and do it anyway.
Notice how the individual mandate was not extended but employer mandate illegally was? Well that's because the amount the government will get in fines from the 45 million uninsured will be a windfall.
Trolls mess things up. I had some really good info in my OP when I started this thread. It took me a while to put it all together to share it and now its gone.
Hey moderators can you please restore my 1st thread post on this topic?
All I did was point things out and mention mere facts after he would reply to my threads or postings.
If they ever enforce the mandate those 45 million will never vote D again.
Of the 5m that have signed up less that 1m are actually paying for it. The other 4m think its free, and they're sure in for a surprise.
I can't wait until tax time next year and 45 million people realize they owe the government 1% because they did not get insurance all because they could not afford it.
This was such a great plan by the liberals in DC.
I cant wait until next year when the employer mandate hits and companies start dumping employee based coverage so they can avoid paying the huge cost. The fines for the large employers are much cheaper than providing coverage.
I cant wait until all the small business companies with 50 to 70 employees go into full Obamacare avoidance mode and start cutting peoples hours so they are not full time so they can avoid covering them.
Great plan DC.
By the time the 2016 presidential election gets here the individual fine will have jumped to 2.5% of the income for those without insurance.
Great plan and good news for the R'S going into the election of 16'. 45 million ticked off voters willing to get revenge on the party that took more of their money.
I cant wait.
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Great plan DC. All for the greater good. The problem is what greater good will be left when it is all over?
Other than the depression and great recession I predict the next 5 years will see more business closing than any other time in history and unemployment will rise again as we see a systematic laying off of employees in order for business to try and offset the government regulations that would put them out of business.
They need to read that on the floor of congress and to our president and every other liberal.
The America where a philosophy of indepence, selfreliance, and freedom certainly has morphed since that little ditty was written...dependency has been fulfilled.
jack
In other news Kim Jon Un is saying he has a perfect NCAA bracket.
Bird of a feather.
Wait for it in....3....2....1.....POOF!!!
So..... 1 Trillion dollars for 1 million newly insured. Anyone care to do the math?
It's Jeff Stalnaker, not sleepy. He must have accidentally been released from the institution.
They have very similar intellectual writing styles.
Though sweet pea never stalked you like STALnaKer does!
;)
Sleepy and Stalnaker are not the same. Sleepy never would have a handle such as this, never got into the sexual innuendos, nor does he, I'd guess, have a collection of gay male porn like Stalnaker does.
To topic, this country needs an enema....starting in DC. This president has no shame. Speaking to a collection of cheering lemmings won't change the mess he's wrought upon us.
At least two of his posts were borderline porno, as is his MO. The others were too stupid and asinine to leave up.
All you had to know, you knew the second you saw his handle; 'Bimbo-twat.'
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CBO: ObamaCare Will Cost Equivalent of 2 Million Jobs in 2017
Some grumps are calling this bad news?
The Republicans just got a big gift from the Congressional Budget Office: It’s going to be a lot easier for them to call Obamacare a “job killer.”
That’s because the budget office’s new economic report, released Tuesday, says the health care law will cause Americans to work fewer hours — enough to be the equivalent of 2 million fewer jobs in 2017.
The latest number is nearly three times as high as the budget office’s previous prediction, and it’s supposed to rise in later years to the equivalent of 2.5 million jobs in 2024.
Yay! People finally get to work fewer hours!
Why you think Obama is pushing so hard to raise minimum wage and overtime? It because he knows Ocare will cut peoples hours and he needs to try and make up the loss for people somehow or the democrats might not win for awhile.. lol
He's trying to draw attention away from the clusterf*(k that is Obamacare. Nothing more.
DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
All medicaid patients will only have 3 doses a day covered if they receive narcotic pain medication.
Many of the drugs on the list are only 6 hour duration drugs so the government is now telling people in pain how much medication they can have. I guess if you're poor you will have to foot the bill for the rest of the medication you need on your own.
It begins now and it is not coincidence that this starts on April 1st 2014.
Well dang...I can't post anymore? ;)
Let me tell you about the time......
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They spoke about the reasons why $10.10 was settled on so specifically. Why not $8 or $8.50 or $9 ? It's over a 35% wage increase. Why such a big increase from $7.25 to $10.10? A $2.85 increase per hour per worker is a lot. It would really be a large increase for employers also.. It would be $114 more a week for those working 40 hours. If you work all year 40 hours a week at minimum wage you would make $15,000 a year. With the new minimum wage you would make $21,000 a year. Before any taxes thats a $6000 increase for employers per person that works all year at minimum wage. I understand why economist are saying it would cause a huge decrease in employment.
The report I saw had something to do with offsetting the cost of Obamacare for those who are likely to sign up for it. With the news that they will have their hours cut because of Obamacare and the minimum wage increase to go along with it the government is trying to offset all that by increasing peoples pay.
They said if the minimum wage increase happens that after taxes and along with the cost of Obamacare it almost washes itself out. Those who get it would not feel the impact of paying for Obamacare at all because they would have the new minimum wage to pay for it. The employer is the one that would bear the entire burden and ills that come with these 2 new laws.
Did anyone else see that report and if so can you put up a link?
That link above should not be there. It goes to nothing and I do not know why it is there because I did not post one.
Thus, the targeted uninsured have actually increased under Obamacare. Without the young having and paying for policies, there is absolutely no way that the "hope and change" can occur under the ACA.
According to Hairy Reed, the above post is a lie.
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Enrollment numbers? HA! They will simply make them up as they go along. Why not? People are stupid enough to buy it.
Truth died in Washington a LOOONG time ago.
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Did you actually miss that..
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The government is interfering with private insurance even more.
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Most uninsured who could get Ocare for free said no to it from what I am reading.
People who do want heath care over the next year will not be able to get affordable coverage. In many cases they may not be able to get insurance at all.
I hope they had no insurance and missed the deadline and try to sign up later.
Can you read and comprehend?
Your post should be deleted. Its just a personal attack. Its very trollish.
I never said what you quoted and certainly never implied that regular people who need insurance shouldn't be able to get it.
On the other hand the tools ""that supported"" Obamacare and then did not sign up have a surprise coming when they decide to game the system and sign up for insurance later.. They cant!
As to the rest of your bull... Well lets just say I had over 200,000 in medical bills at one time and I paid them off. I had no insurance and instead of asking for a hand out I paid. It took me a long time too.
Take your personal attacks and twisting of what I said and buzz off.
This is 2 times now you have said something odd like this to me even though i have never came at you like that. That tells me you have issues or you are new here and have been booted before and are holding a grudge. Who knows but at least try to keep up with what people are actually saying and if you quote them quote them properly instead of misquoting them.
"On the other hand the tools ""that supported"" Obamacare and then did not sign up have a surprise coming when they decide to game the system and sign up for insurance later.. They cant!"
Hammer,
Read your two quotes above. You are indeed saying that you hope Obama supporters wind up with no insurance, and CT called you on it.
Single guy, working his own business no employees.
Tried for a week to get it done on the internet- didnt happen.
He went in and talked to the army of 'community organizers' and his initial quote was $960 per month, "forget it" he said- but wait. So the CO goes on to tell him if he says this and lies about that- how about $400 per month with the gov (read; taxpayer) supplementing the $560 per month balance?
He said if he worked it a bit harder he may have gotten coverage for even less but he did the $400 deal.
Looks like another one just got escorted from the building.
Did a bit better on leaving the mask on but eventually the inner leanings couldn't be contained and the mask came off.....
I do not see it that way and he called me on something I was not actually saying per the context of this thread. When I said I Hope they cannot get the insurance I am saying it from a Karma standpoint and not wishing ill will on their health or ability to get care when it is needed.
So many came out in droves supporting healthcare law and saying everyone must pay their fair share and then when it was time to sign up they game the system. Heck the amount of people who supported this law does not even come close to the % who signed up. MI-Bowman and others have links on this thread that talk about all this. It was that from which I was drawing my conclusions.
Those who are sick should receive care but those who are not and try to wait to save money and then sign up way after the deadline have a surprise coming and rightly so. Those same people are the ones who highly supported this law and out of that 47 million only about 2 million signed up. They wanna wait to save cash. Good luck!
That is far different from meaning I hope they get sick and then cannot get care. That was not quite what I meant.
Kudos
jack
It seems we have one more vaporization. Today is day one. I think long about April 17th or 18th we will see a new guy again.
Any wagers?
Before he got poofed he had protested his innocence telling BK he had posted a lot on the CT conference. I was going to advise him that so did PaulZ, BenG and CarlRI for sure as I recall so that hardly constituted "proof" he was no troll.
On another thread as some might recall he put up some rambling post that contained the defintion and derivation of the word "liberal"; that quote he posted has been used before on the Bowsite-by the horde of trolls over the past few months. I recognized it as soon as he posted it.
I think it must really strain them to try and maintain the facade and then eventually, like an active volcano they just have to erupt.
I have my money on April 17th.......version 9.0 trollista.....
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Edited to add title from Legal Insurrection. LOL
KATHLEEN SEBELIUS HAD TO READ HER RESIGNATION SPEECH TO NOT FIND OUT WHAT WAS IN IT (too funny/ironic not to share)
From Moonbattery:
Kathleen Supercilious — a.k.a. the Abortion Queen — couldn’t even get through her farewell remarks without screwing up yet again:
Somethings in TBVIECia never change...
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Continuing on the path of Obamacare Implementation FAIL:
GLITCH-FILLED TO THE VERY END: SEBELIUS MISSPELLS SUCCESSOR’S NAME IN FAREWELL EMAIL…
Well done, Kathleen.
Via Breitbart:
Newly-retired Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius misspelled the name of her successor, Sylvia Burwell, in her final goodbye email to her HHS coworkers, reports Politico. A Friday evening email titled “Thank you” read as follows:
“As you’ve no doubt heard by now, in the coming months I will be passing the baton to my friend and colleague, Sylvia Burrell [sic]…I’ve worked closely with Sylvia in her role as director of OMB. She is a skilled, strategic leader who I know will continue to improve health services for all Americans. I will continue the important work we have to do here until Sylvia is confirmed, and I am committed to doing what I can to help her–and to help you–during this transition.”
Kinda like her boss......
GM Gets Contract for ObamaCare Ambulance
There is great news for Government Motors, which rather than complying with the demands of the free market was bailed out at taxpayer expense by the Obama Regime. Despite the troubled automaker’s ongoing difficulties, it has received a new contract under ObamaCare to produce government ambulances.
This should generate enough revenue to make another massive bailout unnecessary for a year or more. The ambulances will of course be environmentally friendly, in keeping with the Regime’s agenda:
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It is becoming increasingly hard to tell whether Obamacare is the law of the land, or just the law of the parts of the land that don’t reside in (or aren’t in the good graces of) the executive branch. One wonders: Is it really too much to expect an administration that championed the passage of a 2,700-page overhaul of American medicine to live by the same law it was so eager to impose on others?
The Congressional Research Service (CRS) has just released a memo (posted here at the 2017 Project) listing deadlines that Obamacare imposed on the Obama administration—or, if you prefer, that the Obama administration imposed on itself through Obamacare—and reporting whether the administration has met them or not. To date, it appears that the administration has missed 25 deadlines that it was required, as a matter of law—as a matter of the president’s signature law—to meet...
...Most Americans have somehow managed to live full lives without the government having undertaken any of these actions, and many if not most Americans would probably prefer that the government not undertake these actions (at taxpayer expense). Regardless, President Obama and his congressional allies collectively thought that each of these things was important enough to add yet another paragraph, or yet another page, to the bloated epic/tragedy that is Obamacare. And they required, by law, that the executive branch fulfill these tasks on schedule.
Under the Constitution, the executive power is vested entirely in the president. The least that President Obama could do is fulfill the legal requirements of a law he spearheaded and signed.
Only in TBVIECia is success spelled: FAIL.