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But we'll see what happens in Connecticut.

We should have cops, period. If a govt agency needs cops, they should call the cops.

As far as the fallout of this, if it were just about some guy running cattle on BLM land and not paying the public land fee, then he's a crook.

If it's actually about trying to kick a family off of land that they've been running cattle on for decades, whether that be for tortoises or for land-grabbing, then it's just shameful. Sad and shameful.

I'm relieved that no one was killed over this. Some people seem to be beating the drums of war, but it doesn't have to end that way. Ghandi was referenced in the other thread negatively, but he kicked the British out of India without a single shot fired.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no pacifist and if necessary, I'd line up with a rifle over my shoulder. But violence/war should hopefully be the last option and only used if absolutely necessary. Hopefully it isn't necessary and I'd hope the folks who hope for war would ask themselves why they want it deep down inside.

Americans shooting at other Americans will never ever be a good thing.

And you're absolutely right, but God help us the day that it becomes are only option. Thankfully that day hasn't come....yet.

I felt both relieved and uplifted last night.

Foremost, relieved by the fact no one was killed. Uplifted by two things. That many Americans will stand up to tyrannical behavior even when it is unpopular to do so. Uplifted by the fact that at least some government gunmen will not fire on civilians after warning them to back off with weapons drawn and warning they will shoot, as evidenced and reported by some of the cowboys who first attempted to regain the seized Bundy cattle in Mesquite. I am proud of these men and women who helped out this family and am honored to call them my fellow Americans.

We should all be happy about the outcome, at least for one night. There is still much work to be done to stop all the over reaching nonsense our government is doing in OUR names.

I am also proud of many here who have voiced their negative opinions of the behavior of government thug agencies and whom have expressed a desire to stop these government over reaches on the behalf of American families like the Bundy's and our own, only to be ridiculed as "paper patriots" by their fellow citizens who have no heart for the difficult tasks at hand. Whether by keyboard, pen or some other active involvement. It will take all those efforts.

Speaking for myself, I appreciate your vocal efforts and by and large am proud to be part of a virtual community where we are allowed to speak our minds in the face of disagreement from our peers who accept things as less serious than we do ourselves.

I am also grateful for the Sheriffs and individual politicians who were brave enough to get involved and help diffuse this situation from becoming an American tragedy. I hope their constituents were and are paying attention. These are the kind of men and women who deserve our thanks. It is one thing to stand at the bully pulpit and speak to these concerns, which IS commendable in itself. It is a greater risk to remove yourself from that bully pulpit and become a participant. If you can't support them politically, at least give them a call or shoot them an email expressing your gratitude for their efforts. Same goes for the citizens who personally faced down the barrel of the big government gun. At the very least, express your gratitude to them as well. Through letters to your media editors or even through contact of the Bundy's whom can express that gratitude on your behalf. I know I will as I make time from a sometimes too busy, too active and sometimes too disconnected lifestyle.

As I worship today, these thoughts and many others will surely occupy my mind and my blessed soul.

Thank you Pat, once again, for being the entrepreneur you are, gaining the support of sponsors who tolerate these kinds of forum debate and make this virtual community possible.

We are in a drought here and have been for sometime. As I type this, it is beginning to rain hard. Simply Amazing! What a wonderful 24 hours it has been.

I see government agencies rewarding some freeloaders while using JB methods on others.

This is what happens when government picks winners and losers.

I am less interested in the legality of this issue at the moment. I am concerned with the methods being used and discovering how some of the underlying stories have led to this standoff. It would not be the first time that one criminal intent is over riding another criminal intent.

I expect we will slowly learn more about the underlying stories. Justice is often blind in that regard.

As conservative as I am, I also carry a healthy dose of skepticism. Infowars gets a little spooky sometimes but also breaks some interesting stuff. In this case their is a pretty clear trail tying Reid, both oldest son Rory and Harry to Chinese interests. There was items purged from the BLM web site. Reuters had stuff. Local papers, etc.

Reid has had no problems in the past redrawing boundaries to further is business interests. I seriously doubt it was about the tortoise. That is just a tool to get emotional backing.

Society is being programmed to hate farmers and ranching. You should read the stuff that is posted, printed daily on the wild horse debacle. Its astonishing how the "beautiful and wild horse" is being used to run ranchers off of their BLM granted allotments. In this case, the BLM is hated by the wild horse crowd, though. Kinda funny.

My opinion on Bundy is still up in the air. I think there must be a precedent somewhere about ancestral grazing rights. I don't think the BLM even cared about Bundys grazing until 1993 in Bundy's case.

The feds have the money and therefore the time to pressure anyone into submission. they can and have financially ruined people and their lives. They should never be allowed to use this ability. The common man hardly ever wins.

I do not understand it either.

Why go down the socialism road at all when history shows no one was able to successfully.

I'll tell you why....they want to handouts. When you start taking handouts from the government then they OWN you, not all that much different than if they had put shackles on your legs and hands. And this is EXACTLY what they plan and want; for you to be dependent on them.

LBJ when he was President even STATED this back in the 60's in regards to the "war on poverty" (which if it was war then we lost, because the people who it was supposed to help are STILL in poverty...)

"I'll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years."....LBJ

50 down, 150 to go.

I believe that this force is completely un-constitutional and whoever authorized it should be charged and imprisoned.

God bless, Steve

I happen to know a lot of BLM folks. You might be surprised how much illicit agriculture there is out there, even in Colorado, a state with a fairly short growing season.

Cliven Bundy’s problem isn’t that he didn’t pay — he did — or that his cattle bother tortoises — they don’t — it’s that he’s not a Reid donor.

**One last thought: For those conservatives saying that sinc

- See more at: http://danaloeschradio.com/the-real-story-of-the-bundy-ranch/#sthash.Smin7B3J.dpuf

Hairy Reid want fracking or windmills on that property and will make big bucks for arranging it.

There are a lot of angry people Even the BLM office in the Denver area received threats.

http://thesouthwestjournal.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/glenn-becks-message-to-bundy-and-his-supporters/

I rolled into Laughlin really early, like 5:30 am. So many people had shown up, that we decided to leave in groups. A second group to leave at 8 AM as scheduled. Ours was a big group too. About two dozen cars, loaded with passengers.

The highway was almost empty until near Mesquite. Then it was a traffic jam. Motor homes, campers, ATVs running along side the freeway, motorcyles, vehicles, every thing you could possibly imagine. Everyone on their way to Bunkersville.

Then it [the traffic] about stopped, just inching along.

Word traveled down the traffic line that the feds had blocked the road just out of Mesquite and were searching vehicles for weapons and cell phones. Cell phones were confiscated and smashed. The people were given a chit for $30.00 redemption value. I left my phone at home.

Some of us that had four wheel drives decided to just leave the road and head overland. As we got closer to the ridge, we were stopped by armed militia. We could not go any further. We could wait, or turn around and go back to the road. Men, who I suspect were special forces, had climbed the ridge from the back side and captured the snipers. They were at that moment coming down the ridge to take them to Mesquite where they would be let go. They weren’t prisoners, they were just going to be replaced by friendlies.

Because of the roadblock on I-15, people refused to be searched, and refused to turn back. They just pulled off the road and parked. It was like a dam backing up a river. Soon the feds were trapped between the Americans who had already gotten through, and the Americans who had been stopped on the highway. The BLM agents went into full panic mode and called for help. LVPD [Las Vegas Police Department] who had REFUSED to show up to help Americans HAD to show up to rescue BLM that was now trapped and helpless. The blockade was SEVEN MILES LONG! That’s a potload of people.

The People vs. BLM

A group of armed Americans along with local cowboys went to Mesquite to liberate the cows that had been confiscated and held by BLM. They were being driven back home in an old fashioned cattle drive. The feds say it was voluntary [that they voluntarily returned the confiscated cattle to Bundy], don’t believe it.

I was basically standing around twiddling my thumbs when the word came down that the Director of BLM had surrendered and all forces would be withdrawn. I could not go on. The road was blocked and would be blocked probably for the rest of the day at least. A bunch of us turned around and left. It was over.

There were THOUSANDS of people there, and more arriving every minute. The ranch, Gold Butte, the entire area was completely surrounded by Americans. The highway was completely blocked in both directions of people trying to get through. Everyone was very peaceful and friendly. No fights or anything. There was a rumor in the line, that some of the mercenaries hired by the feds had defected and were now on the side of the Americans.

I came back and immediately saw this [the media's] pack of lies and half truths.

At one point, I-15 was closed in both directions, about seven miles south of Mesquite, because protesters had blocked the freeway. Nearly two dozen police officers and a SWAT unit were at the scene to keep the peace and assist the BLM enforcement officers to safely leave the area. They were scared crapless!

But thank God they did, because that would have turned real ugly, REAL fast.

Make no mistake, if this was just the Bundy family, some if not all would be wearing toe tags. So the mass support drove back the government this time.

I also agree that legislation is the best outcome but that legislation does not come without a wide-spread demonstrable and undeniable mandate. He reveres MLK. So do I but I also know bus boycotts, sit-ins and large scale civil disobedience built the MANDATE that drove the legislation. Those people got off their backsides and did much more than talk and write letters.

Whether you agree or not. Here is another YT video about what is not being told.

So here's some info and it's from a conservative web site.

This map shows the old grazing allotments.

And a link to snopes.

Now this could be for some benign reason. It is not however the first time I have seen with my own eyes that stories are getting scrubbed after they are reported. I'm not saying that is what happened here but it is being reported by many sources that this is happening more frequently than you might think.

After some digging, I found it's new location on YT. It will be interesting to see if it disappears again. I am beginning to get in the habit of saving some of the stories for future reference if they become pertinent.

Anyway, I think this was that video that had been removed. It will be interesting to see how long this one stays up.

Let's examine the accusations.

CLAIM: Snopes.com is owned by 'a flaming liberal' with a partisan bias.

First off, it's clear that whoever wrote this piece made it up as they went along. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes browsing Snopes.com knows that the website is owned by two people, not one, husband and wife David and Barbara Mikkelson of southern California. This is stated on the website and has been common knowledge since the website's inception.

Second, the charge of partisanship is laid without evidence. At no time have the Mikkelsons publicly stated a political preference or affiliation, or expressed support for any particular party or candidate.

Moreover, Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian citizen, and as such cannot vote in U.S. elections or contribute to political campaigns. In a statement provided to FactCheck.org, David Mikkelson said his "sole involvement in politics" is voting on election day. In 2000 he registered as a Republican, documents provided to FactCheck.org show, and in 2008 Mikkelson didn't declare a party affiliation at all. Says Mikkelson: "I've never joined a party, worked for a campaign, or donated money to a candidate" (source: FactCheck.org).

Anyone who claims proof to the contrary needs to come out with it. A NOTE ON GEORGE SOROS: A later variant of this rumor alleges, without evidence, that Snopes.com is owned and/or financed by liberal philanthropist and hedge fund tycoon George Soros. This is false. Snopes.com is entirely self-supporting through advertising sales.

Each time I've been confronted with this claim I've asked for evidence of any kind demonstrating a financial connection between Snopes and Soros. No one has ever provided it, much less a coherent argument as to why we should even suppose such a connection exists.

CLAIM: Snopes.com is 'in the tank for Obama' and 'tells lies' about Republicans.

You'd think it would be easy for someone so blithely asserting that the owners of Snopes.com are "flaming liberals" to offer evidence that they're "in the tank" for Obama and "covering up" for him. None is provided.

As of this writing dozens of viral texts about Obama and his running mate have been analyzed on Snopes.com, each meticulously researched with copious references cited. I've perused them all, not to mention the dozens of rumors they've covered about Obama's Republican counterparts, and found no discernible pattern of bias or deception, nor any evidence of advocacy for or against any particular party or political persuasion. To the contrary, I see a consistent effort to provide even-handed analyses of texts which more often than not are themselves dripping with bias and acrimony.

That's my assessment as a longtime competitor of Snopes.com who has been called upon to investigate many of these same rumors and can boast a better-than-average familiarity with the subject matter. I invite you to make your own. CLAIM: TruthorFiction.com is less biased more reliable than Snopes.

Ironically, TruthorFiction.com has refuted these attacks against Snopes.com and, in point of fact, lauds the site as an "excellent" and "authoritative" resource.

A further irony is that when you compare the contents of the two sites their findings rarely diverge in any substantive way. Shouldn't we therefore conclude that TruthorFiction.com is just as biased as Snopes?

Spike it would be nice if you fact checked even the information that you WANT to be true.

Also a quote from snopes.com compitition Truthorfiction.com:

The bottom line is that if you try to report the truth, there will be those who don't like the truth you've reported and who will develop suspicions about why you did.

Now your going to tell me Obama owns them? Laffin!

FYI, several people have investigated the Reid deal and have found it to be the truth.

But you just keep drinkin the Obummer kool-aid and everything will be ok.....

This isn't the first time stuff like this has happened... Just read up on Dave Hodges and his dealings with John (RINO) McCain trying to take his land.

The assertions that Reids are using their positions and power to make nefarious land deals in Nevada for personal gain are well founded. Whether or how those deals may or may not be both legal and illegal will not be resolved without more investigative journalism since I have little doubt government investigations will not be forthcoming.

Who knows whose maps are accurate, IW or Breitbart? I haven't looked into this to see if perhaps the maps are from different snapshots in time and that could be but one explanation.

As I have stated before, it could take weeks, months or maybe even years to learn all the details needed to ascertain the truths of the matter.

One thing is certain in my mind. The Federal government possesses too much leverage, power and undisclosed dealings between their agencies, politicians and business concerns for anyone to take their official positions with anything but a grain of salt. Regardless of what any fact check website currently reports and those who look no further into what those sources say.

That's my opinion at present FWIW.

H555, that Hodges story as it pertains to McCain is also an interesting story that I believe will not be investigated outside the realm of journalism sources as well. Even if they are, they will sit in Holders Injustice Department until this administration is history. You need little more proof than those stories the MSM reports that are treated likewise.

In that case the BlM lost and had to award the man a pile of money.

In the Bundy case BLM has won both court cases. So which is, do the courts only get it right when BLM loses, or when they win?

Facts are facts. The solar deal is fabricated and continuing that is irresponsible. It's really because you have nothing else to present. Reid is a crook on more than one account but this isn't one.

Breitbart is a conservative group, not even close to being liberal. So do tell why they would fabricate maps that you can fact check yourself so easy. They want to lose all credibility? Laffin!

In your video you posted the young man tells you guys to fact check everything. Well I do, and the only thing that he's write on and is a concern is the reasons why BLM was trying to push Bundy off the grazing allotments. Also the removed documents. That itself needs to be investigated.

It's terrible grazing land where Bundy is, and he should have taken the money and ran back in 1993.

This Bundy thing is still fluid. Journalists are early into their inquiries and investigations and no one, including you, know where that might lead or how that might change the facts as we now understand them. Solar fields require a storage facilities, transmission paths and other infrastructure to complete. Nothing that I have read so far has eliminated the possibilities that some of the State land that Bundy grazes by way of BLM permits will not somehow be used as a part of that infrastructure or the development of some other future project that Reid or some other entity has plans to develop. So facts today are not necessarily facts tomorrow.

I will give you this. It appears on the surface, w/o further investigation that you may be correct. I for one, am not yet convinced beyond doubt.

As for the case the BLM lost. I posted that link to show that the BLM has a history of criminal conspiracy with respect to their dealings with Nevada ranchers. In and of itself that supports the fact that the BLM can not be trusted to police itself nor is their side of the story to be trusted.

I am well aware of what type of land that the Bundys graze. I live on very similar land.

You or the BLM have no right to consider what Bundy should or should not do. Bundy has made it abundantly clear that he would surrender to local authorities should they attempt to detain and arrest him.

Considering what I just had to explain to you, it is understandable why some might consider you a troll.

Try not to be too defensive about that. I was called a troll when I first showed up here too. It's a tough crowd.

All the while it's a "mitigation strategy" the solar farms will effect the dessert about the same way a shopping mall effects the environment. In order to move on with the 50 or so projects they have to make up for destroying their area with cleaning up another. Kind of like "carbon credits" that have made Gore a rich man.

It was specifically pointed out on the BLM website that Bundy had to go in order to move forward with these projects.

The BLM backed off for good reason. And are trying to cover their tracks as we speak.

"and a nasty crusty old rancher shall lead them...."

You know what's funny, it used to be that the vast majority on here thought Spike wore a tin foil hat. Honestly a few years ago I thought some of the stuff he posted was a little "Out There".

Well, I started doing some reading and looking up stuff on my own, guess what, most of this "out there" stuff is true, and guys have the evidence to back it up!

What also has surprised me is the number of guys on this website who I can tell have had their eyes opened and believe in it as well.

With that being said, if you're not a troll and just prefer to bury your head in the sand, that is perfectly fine, but please do all of us a favor and keep your bent out of shape insults to yourself.

To have no knowledge of these things is to have NO world view or to not understand the meaning of the word. The overused progressive form intended to insult is but one example of how we have become a nation of sheep.

"Dangerous"/"their world view" in progressive form, are as ridiculously pathetic as Harry Reidtart calling a bunch of veterans, cowboys and ranchers "domestic terrorists".

Whitey. You are NOT a strict constitutionalist as you proclaim. You're a zit on the butt of the American people.

In the spirit of this holy Good Friday, I don't wish to argue. I am sure if we ever met in person we might hold better opinions of each other. Primarily because you and I would be less likely to throw around personal insults like is done when separated by a computer.

I have made a personal decision to not do so to the best of my ability. On occasion, someone will start insulting myself and others and it turns into game on. I too am only human.

Enjoy the holy days and God Bless You, your friends and family, Whitey.

Your last line is totally funny to me. You call people names "Troll", and I never insulted you once. You make un substantiated claims, and when people prove your wrong you call them a troll.

I like this statement from you. "FYI, several people have investigated the Reid deal and have found it to be the truth."

Well then, because "Several People" made that claim on the net it surely must be true. Laffin! In the link that Narlyhorn posted they narrator told of a lie perpetuated about the reasons for kicking Bundy off the lands was because of Fracking in North East Nevada, and 45 people on Facebook had shared that without reading the article. He said "FACT CHECK" everything people.

I pray another Tim McVeigh doesn't come about from this movement, but as Narlyhorn pointed out, we are destined to repeat our history on this.

I want you on my side! Not!

Anyone who claims proof to the contrary needs to come out with it. A NOTE ON GEORGE SOROS: A later variant of this rumor alleges, without evidence, that Snopes.com is owned and/or financed by liberal philanthropist and hedge fund tycoon George Soros. This is false. Snopes.com is entirely self-supporting through advertising sales.

As for Reid, he's not my Senator. I hate the SOB because he tried to kill the wolf rider bill a few years ago.

Electing Reid doesn't bode well for the intellect of those people in Nevada.

Although that history will be repeated, it is a stretch to hold a faction of the Republican party as more dangerous in that regard than Democrats. As a matter of fact, it is my belief that as Americans stand up and demand the restoration of many of the freedoms we have lost, it is more likely those type of events will develop from the left, IMO.

I in no way believe that those type of events cannot rise from those with violent tendencies from any part of the political spectrum. The TP is not violent in that regard.

It is comments you just made toward H555 that may give you the appearance of a troll to others. I can tell you from my experience in speaking w/ H555 that he too is a good man worthy of my respect. I would gladly stand shoulder to shoulder w/ him and others that are referred to as paper patriots and the bowsite wack pack.

H555 can defend his own comments, most of which, depending on your perceptions, are grounded in well established concerns.

That didn't take long, so full of hate and yet they claim they come in "PEACE" to educate the rubes, once again we will hear the blathering claims of being a moderate only to watch the blooms fall off, what will be exposed, a liberal nincompoop or a rabid Brownshirt?

I totally disagree with what faction of people are the most dangerous in America. The far right, have shown repeatedly what they are capable of. Not only in the name of religion but politically.

Look at the bombing of all the abortion clinics. The attacks on federal buildings, assassinated doctors. Beaten and tortured gay people etc. The groups that are right wing are all violent, (skin heads, Aryn Nations,) I know the far left is prone to violence too, but not near as much as the far right wing of this country.

We have left wingers attacking trapping here in Montana, and they lie, cheat and steal to promote their agenda. They aren't very scary though. Most wouldn't pack a weapon and are afraid of them. We have many militia here and they are always making headlines from violence acts.

Slade, did I hit a nerve? So proud of that group are we?

I worked with and was a friend to a former Libertarian candidate for governor of Colorado. He published a patriot oriented magazine for a short time during the period that McVeigh bombed the Murrow Building in OK City. He wrote McVeigh during his incarceration in an attempt to gain an interview for the magazine. I was allowed to read the written correspondence between him and McVeigh. Although, McVeigh declined the interview, the written correspondence was very revealing. I can assure you, although he had an intelligent mind, he was a disturbed man well beyond the realm of TP political dissent. Even then, back in the 90's, did I ever meet anyone involved in the Patriot Movement who considered those events to be normal behavior, encourage or endorse that type of dissent. Same goes for the Aryan Nation groups and skin head movements. Comparisons of those groups to TPers or the many Patriot Citizen Groups I have been associated with is a myth used by the left to discredit these good American people and their values.

Sure, there are probably exceptions to my first hand experience, but by and large, they have no associations with those of us who have TP or Libertarian leanings and the groups with which we associate.

Looking at more recent, school shootings, theatre shooting, eco terror, thousands of street murders, crime statistics in liberal vs. conservative cities and communities and the tone from Liberal politicians, community leaders, newscasters and others with a left leaning slant, it is clear the trend for violent speech and reaction comes from the left.

So perhaps it is you who is picking and choosing pieces of history, not to mention stretching the truth. The right has a long and rich tradition of standing up for personal liberty much to the discontent of the left, especially the modern day left.

Edit: The left does a better job of standing up for social liberties, so I give them credit for that. I don't think they do so for the sake of Liberty but rather out of their endorsement for a more debaucherous society.

Or the violent actions of left-wing Black Panthers.

Or more recently fire bombings by the Earth Liberation Front.

100 hate crime killings linked right to the group.

Spike, do lefties trap, and kill wolves? Just wondering if that's left wing.

Abortions are legal, and although I don't like it, I'm all for people determining their own fate. I believe in the Constitution without any strings attached. Can you say the same?

TD, to argue that Aryan Nation is not a right wing group, shows your clueless.

I agree, just so you don't move over past moderation. Once your so far right you side with KKK, aryan nations, Skin heads, and some religious right groups your past freedoms and on to ideology. All of these groups want more control, and to re write the constitution to suit their own beliefs. Not that of mainstream America.

Nice try though.

If they are accepted by the general "right wing" traditional orgs as one of them, then they can make some claim as to being "right wing" orgs. They can call themselves the fairies of happiness if they want. But doesn't make it so.

I know of no conservative org. that accepts the concept of racism.

But if you're OK with calling them "right wing" orgs instead of criminal racist gangs then I'm fine with Crips and Bloods being left wing orgs.

Where did I say I don't believe in the Constitution?

KKK was the arm of the Democratic Party, it morphed into a white supremacy group with deeply southern religious tones.

The Republican party use to support wildlife and hunting. Teddy Roosevelt was one of the best. Then the Republican party morphed into a party that attacks sportsman, and wildlife. Especially in the Upper Rocky Mountain states like Montana.

TD, if you say those groups aren't "Right Wing" then that's good enough for me.

Spike, if you advocate Trapping, and killing of wolves, would that mean your liberal, or conservative. If you're unable to understand the question, or don't know the answer that's alright, I really didn't expect you too.

Did you just say that it could not be left because no religious southerners are Democrats? Raised in the South and I never saw so many religious bigots as Southern Democrats. Talk about double minded people. How can you be a raciest bigot and be of Christ? How can you advocate for murder of babies and for Sodomite weddings and be of Christ?? Its not possible for by their fruit you shall know them. Democrats are the Children of their Father the Devil. Period. Their fruits and the Democrat platform declare their stand for evil., For murder , for oppression like we just saw in Nevada. For sedition, for Sodomy, For every evil and immoral thing that Satan can conceive.

God bless, Steve

Diamond Bar Ranch in NM Seized by US Forest Service! April 19, 2014 / Clark Kent / 7 comments

diamond bar ranch

Officials say that the Laney’s can redeem their 80 cattle for $40,950 Southwest New Mexico – The Diamond Bar Ranch was acquired by the Laney family in 1986, and its adjacent Laney Cattle Company was allowed to utilize grazing lands since 1883. According to the US Forest Service, however, they are no longer entitled to do so, and the USFS has posted notices along the fence line of their property advising people not to attempt to enter the ranch. Lands are being seized, and the cattle removed, “one way or the other.”

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Obama has militarized all the federal government agencies to form his own little army...as promised.

The Feds could have put a lien on his cattle and gotten their money when he took them to market.

Instead, they sent an entire army with guns, then pointed those guns at fellow Americans.

Where else does that happen over unpaid bills?

Here's a great video between a wuss-azz CNN metro-sexual 'reporter' and a Nevada state assemblywoman who absolutely takes this pansy-azz to the cleaners:

Is it just me, or is it possible for any of you guys even to look at this wuss without getting the creeps?

It's being spread now for more misinformation to get the mob worked up again. Their playing you guys, and you don't even know it.

Sixby, If your referring to me, your mistaken. I never said the things you claimed.

"on Saturday, April 12, Kit Laney was served with a notice that his ranch would be shut down on Wednesday and his 300 head of “trespass” cattle removed from the land. This situation comes just a week after Rancher Cliven Bundy had a similar situation in Nevada."

Yeah, they could be twins.

Grazing fees have not even been adjudicated according to US v. Cliven Bundy. Looks as if this is why the BLM has no option of putting liens on Bundy property or cattle sales.

Not only that, the attempts to sell Bundy cattle to the Utah processor were if fact an illegal act by the BLM. It appears Bundy should file suit against the BLM as they only have court authorization to impound, not sell or dispatch the cattle.

Mr. Bundy would have been gone just like that and in Federal custody...Anyone ask, he failed to pay takes as many do...There was no need for the 'show of force'...BLM would have got it handed to them the way ATF did when they first went to Waco...

As others have repeated over and over...To many other ways this could have been handled,other than the way it was...

Then again it is Harry Dick Reeds state, so who knows...

I know SS will have a real problem with this, but I learned a long time ago on here that you can't convince anyone of anything. Especially when they won't believe the proof that has already been presented! Therefore, I do not waste my time trying to convince someone who doesn't believe.

I will say this, I generally only post information that I get from sources that I have come to trust. If it comes from sources I am not very sure about, I will usually state as such. Therefore, I don't bother with the whole "Put up or shut up" crap.

SS, several here have already "put up" and you still refuse to "shut up" so I won't waste my time with you.

Narlyhorn, thank you for the comments earlier.

Everyone notice how the Bundy's and the militia are now being referred to as "domestic terrorists"? Social programming at its finest! Then yesterday there was a headline where someone said they needed to be hit with a drone strike....... Wake up people!!!!

There is also new information regarding legislation that Reid sponsored to make it more difficult to find the financial relationships between government officials and businesses.

Although the missing cache file is still an issue, it may be the only valid one in the video.

This is the kind of reporting I like to see. Admit if you are/were wrong. Follow up to let the public know.

My respect for SCG as an alternate media source has grown as a result. Although they may not be perfect, this video shows they are honestly trying.