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H.R. 4380: 2A Gamechanger?
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Anony Mouse 16-Apr-14
Russ Koon 17-Apr-14
BowSniper 17-Apr-14
Owl 17-Apr-14
The Old Sarge 17-Apr-14
bad karma 17-Apr-14
From: Anony Mouse
16-Apr-14
Interesting article. Copyright notifications prevent posting entire article, but well worth looking at.

H.R. 4380: GAME CHANGING GUN LEGISLATION?

"... what makes H.R. 4380 different from most of those pieces of legislation is that it will be significant before it even passes..."

The bill is short and sweet, so short it is included below.

“Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the

United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the “Gun Confiscation and Registration

Prevention Act”.

SEC. 2. PROHIBITING GUN CONFISCATION AND REGISTRATION.

None of the funds made available through the NICS Improvement

Amendments Act of 2007 or the Community Oriented Policing Services

[COPS] Program shall be provided to any jurisdiction which:

(a) maintains a registry of gun ownership; or

(b) conducts a program of gun confiscation directed at any firearm

which is not prohibited by Federal law or any group of persons who are

not prohibited from possessing a firearm under Federal law.”

What this bill is, whether or not intended by the pro-gun Congressman from Texas, is a test. It is a test to discern who among the United States Congress, and the United States Senate, are potential proponents of gun registration in the United States. It feels out who is for and who is against gun confiscation in the United States.

Read the rest...no matter what happens, it will make those who are pro 2A and those opposing it on record.

This will be fun to watch. Is your congresscritter a sponsor or not?

jack

From: Russ Koon
17-Apr-14
AM, my initial reaction was in support of the resolution.

However, i can also see the unintended consequence of such a resolution being incorporated into law and then used as lever to force national gun laws rather than state jurisdiction, at some future point.

We have to be careful what we wish for, and imagine all the possible stretches of language that would permit the twisting of the original intent.

That's the reason I opposed national reciprocity laws. The intent was to force the reciprocity on the states that were reluctant to join the national trend. The actual effect could well be the furtherance of federal intrusion into possession and carry laws at the national level, and could work pretty much exactly the opposite of the original intent.

From: BowSniper
17-Apr-14
Why link gun registration and confiscation to funding from just a couple of named sources? The government would just change the source of funding and go after 2A rights again.

Bill needs to outlaw registration and confiscation, period.

From: Owl
17-Apr-14
"That's the reason I opposed national reciprocity laws. The intent was to force the reciprocity on the states that were reluctant to join the national trend. The actual effect could well be the furtherance of federal intrusion into possession and carry laws at the national level, and could work pretty much exactly the opposite of the original intent."

- x2!

17-Apr-14
"Read the rest...no matter what happens, it will make those who are pro 2A and those opposing it on record."

Not if it never gets out of committee.

From: bad karma
17-Apr-14
The House, which is majority Republican, will have enough votes to get it to the Senate. But what will happen in the House is that the Democrat leadership will count votes, knowing that it will pass, and give the at-risk representatives the okay to vote in favor.

Likewise in the Senate, the Dems will count votes, knowing it will fail, and let the at-risk Dems like Pryor and Landrieu vote in favor, knowing the bill will die there anyway. And if it were to pass both Houses, there is no way Obama would sign it.

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