The point is that if want things to be better, not perfect, but better, you can not play by the rules with politics and politicians because they wrote the book. One reason I tell people not to vote. I may be very wrong in this approach but there is a chance I may be right. I know one thing for absolute certain that no one can refute. Going about it the way we have been, by the rules, does not get desired results.
If the people would ever just not show up at the polls the message would be sent loud and clear that whoever was elected even with 2 votes was not representing the people things would change. As long as we play by the rules nothing ever will. Why should it in their eyes?
The Rock
In sincerely hope your circle of influence is very small
Your recommendation of telling people NOT to vote is just wrong
HA spot on
This telling people not to vote or voting for "the right" candidate , no matter what that candidate's chance of winning is just Wrong.
Getting rid of Dems. Can never be considered wrong and that is the goal. Bad R's can be dealt with later. True Libs and Democrats need to go!
Nothing anyone can recognize will be left but hey we sure taught the establishment something didn't we.
I grow tired of this nonsense so I will put it out there in no holds barred terms.
All Politian's suck and that will NEVER change. Not some but every single one eventually takes shots for the team and NONE have EVER done what they said they would do. We have had the 2 headed snake since Americas inception. It is just both heads have grown bigger year after year.
What follows is not meant as an insult and it is a generality......Its not the Politian its the people stupid!
The Politian is not the issue. It is the people, the morals and our thinking we have that are slipping. Most right of center politicians and people are nothing like the right of center from 50 years ago. That is a fact!
You want to change the Politian's then you MUST changes the peoples thinking 1st because the Politian's in essence represent their majority. If the people really wanted a true conservative then we would have more of them in the USA. It is sad and not fun to hear but it is the truth.
Good point Hammer. It goes with what I've been saying about the 2 parties.....
They are BOTH taking us to hell. The difference is that the Democrats have us in the express lane while the Republicans like to take the scenic route.
Truth be told, if we get Hillary or some other lying progressive for another 4 to 8 years there'll be nothing left. There's damn little left now!
You see the problem is with the people 100%. The politician is of the people and comes from the people and he/she is one of the people. The people choose willingly to accept the message and BS the politician is peddling because that's what they really want to have.
The only repair for this is inside each home. Each family must teach proper morals and economics and the pull yourself up on your own mentality. They must teach no free ride and we only help the absolute most desperate and needy and destitute among us. They need to teach we only help enough to get them on their feet and they must walk by themselves from then on. They need to teach education is paramount and also respect and love for each other and love of country. These are the things that have slipped more and more right from the start of the USA. It moved little by little with ebbs and flows as time has past. Now these things that have slipped are in overdrive.
The only 2 ways I see to fix that is the USA collapsing so we get a big reality check. Either that or a superior resonating message that the minority picks up on and passes along little by little until we have moved back to what works and is sustainable. We could do this in one generation if every parent started right now to teach these things by demand and by example. The people need to 1st recognize the problem is with them. The problem is not the politician or our Govt. The problem lies solely with the American people that put our govt in this position and little by little putting politicians in office that would give them what they want instead of what they need. We must stop it little by little but it must start with ourselves and kids 1st.
Giving up elections to teach the establishment will not work and instead will likely bring about Americas demise quickly. It will ruin us because the further left we go as a result of given up those elections the harder it will be to reverse course because more and more people are now on the dole and jacked in the head ideologically and by given up elections we push more and more people right to what we don't actually want. Many Americans did not want what Obama gave us but we got it and now more and more people are on his side ideologically and economically. Good luck changing their mind in any quick amount of time. Wont happen! Little by little it slips away from us. Little by little is the only way to get it back. I am not sure we can even change now if we wanted to. Sometimes I think we can pull it off but other times I know we are doomed.
The best thing that could have happened to the USA would have been for the last recession to have not let up one single ounce from its low point and have it last 10 years where we were in real bad shape and barley hanging on. It would have forced the US to make changes and the solution would be painfully obvious and the lesson would have painfully been learned and past on. Instead we proved to the ignorant which is 50% of the public that we can have our cake and eat it to and they pass that same flawed message on. The further left we move the harder it will be to do so and the next time we start down hill like that we will go over the cliff. Only then will we learn the message and not before then is what I am afraid of. It takes hard times or a catastrophic (9-11) event to get people thinking alike or a slow pace little by little approach.
Which do you choose? If we were like our FF we would choose the sudden jolt and corrective action would be taken but we wont do so because people are wayyyy to self absorbed and head in the sand ignorant because as long as they are OK they do not care about the 2nd or 3rd generations that might follow them. This is why we are lost IMO and will not be able to recover. But in 10 min I will think we can pull it off. I am torn between reality and wishful thinking.
We do not lie to them. The people WANT them in office. This has gone on long enough that your theory does not hold water. You would be right if it happened a few times and then we changed but the bottom line is we don't change and we keep putting the tools in office over and over and over. Not because of anything but our own desire to have them do what they say and stand for.
Obamas 1st election proved that and the 2nd one drove it home. I got news for ya my friend...We are all screwed. You cant message or force people backward. Only catastrophe can do that for the masses. The masses do no want what we are peddling and that is just a fact. Its a sad fact but fact nonetheless. If they did want what we stand for they would vote differently than they do but the conservative never even comes close to winning so it is painfully obvious that the vast majority want their cake and want to eat it too and that will not change until we get flushed.
Over 50% of our total country is center to center left regardless of what any poll might say. The voting record of the public proves it.