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Contributors to this thread:
NvaGvUp 28-Jan-15
BowSniper 28-Jan-15
Nomad 28-Jan-15
gadan 28-Jan-15
NvaGvUp 28-Jan-15
BowSniper 28-Jan-15
Mike in CT 28-Jan-15
NvaGvUp 28-Jan-15
HA/KS 28-Jan-15
NvaGvUp 28-Jan-15
ar troy 28-Jan-15
sleepyhunter 28-Jan-15
Shuteye 28-Jan-15
HA/KS 28-Jan-15
gflight 29-Jan-15
jtek 29-Jan-15
NvaGvUp 29-Jan-15
Jim in Ohio 29-Jan-15
NvaGvUp 29-Jan-15
gflight 29-Jan-15
gflight 29-Jan-15
Woods Walker 31-Jan-15
Pat C. 31-Jan-15
NvaGvUp 01-Feb-15
joshuaf 02-Feb-15
joshuaf 02-Feb-15
ar troy 02-Feb-15
70lbdraw 02-Feb-15
joshuaf 02-Feb-15
Shuteye 02-Feb-15
joshuaf 03-Feb-15
HA/KS 03-Feb-15
joshuaf 03-Feb-15
Mint 03-Feb-15
joshuaf 03-Feb-15
HA/KS 03-Feb-15
Mint 04-Feb-15
joshuaf 04-Feb-15
gflight 12-Feb-15
itshot 12-Feb-15
NvaGvUp 12-Feb-15
NvaGvUp 12-Feb-15
joshuaf 13-Feb-15
Fulldraw1972 13-Feb-15
gflight 26-Feb-15
From: NvaGvUp
28-Jan-15
Well done, sir!

From: BowSniper
28-Jan-15
That's a really great ad !!! Nice assembly of images combined with his speech. Go get 'em !

From: Nomad
28-Jan-15
X2!!!!

From: gadan
28-Jan-15
Excellent! I'd like to know more about the man but he appears to be good fiscally.

From: NvaGvUp
28-Jan-15
JTV,

"sure beats the hell out of Christy, Romney, Bush, Paul jr. and a few others ..... "

Notice how Walker referred to the past, to old, failed ideas while showing pictures of Obama and Hillary, then talked about fresh, new ideas, clearly but subtly reminding voters that Jeb and Mitt are anything but fresh and new.

His frequent comments about how the states are where new ideas are implemented and tested was not only a way to point to his own record, but also subtly let voters realize that Senators are not part of that mix.

Very, very well done.

From: BowSniper
28-Jan-15
You always need a branding message and battle plan. And repairing the country's decay from the State level is a sound and novel approach. Plus you should have the support of republican governors who have been more successful and widespread at the state level.

From: Mike in CT
28-Jan-15
WOW!!!

Kyle, thanks for sharing!

From: NvaGvUp
28-Jan-15
Walker clearly has the ability and opportunity to separate himself from the pack.

1. He's walked the walk in Wisconsin, not just talked the talk.

2. How is the left going to demonize Walker? He's not a firebrand, he's not voted to shut down the government (not that that's a bad thing, but it would be used against him in a most dishonest way), and he's not viewed as a radical.

3. He's won THREE elections for Governor in four years in a blue state without compromising his principles.

4. He's produced tremendous results for WI taxpayers, education, and blue collar workers.

5. He's the only Governor in American history ever to survive a recall effort.

6. He's definitely a Christian but doesn't wear it on his sleeve, which will make him acceptable to those who are 'economically conservative and socially liberal.'

7. He's the epitome of the American Dream, having gone from an average middle class family to the Governor of a big state.

8. He cut spending, freed WI taxpayers from the tyranny and costs of public sector unions and Wisconsin's employee's pension system may now be the only one in the 50 states that's financially sound.

9. He's got more common sense and human decency in his little finger that Hillary has in her entire body.

10. His message is Reaganesque without having to claim it to be so.

12. He knows how to win the votes of Independents and blue collar Dems without pandering to them or compromising his beliefs.

13. He's actually run something, administered something and achieved success on his own, unlike Hillary and the current occupant of the White House.

14. He's not a super-rich businessman who can be accused of caring only about 'the rich.'

15. He's not a 'legacy candidate,' hoping to get the nomination and then ride across the finish line based solely on his or her name.

From: HA/KS
28-Jan-15

HA/KS's Link

From: NvaGvUp
28-Jan-15

NvaGvUp's Link
You can donate to Walker's PAC, "Our American Revival," at the link.

From: ar troy
28-Jan-15
Man that sounds good! Does anyone know if he has a website that documents his positions?

From: sleepyhunter
28-Jan-15
Sounds good. If he would pledge to kick out all the illegal immigrants in this country, then really do it. And keep them out. He would get my vote.

From: Shuteye
28-Jan-15
I have liked him for quite some time. Fat head Ed even went out there for the recall election and I thought he was going to cry at the results. MSNBC hate Walker and that is good enough reason to vote for him. A governor beats out a Senator in my book anytime.

From: HA/KS
28-Jan-15
A good thing about Walker is that he has some national recognition without having been part of national politics.

From: gflight
29-Jan-15
"Great ad, I posted a link about Walker a while back on the thread discussing various candidates. He's impressive and I'm hoping he's there on the ballot in 2016. Perfect candidate? Of course not, but he's definitely more impressive than many of the more talked about retreads IMO."

I remember the thread and his values mirror my personal ones pretty darn close. I was surprised then and now that so many of you would like him.

From: jtek
29-Jan-15
I hate to give up our great governor but to get a fantastic candidate like Scott Walker on the pres ticket is just awesome. As a frequent contributor to him here in Wisconsin, he sends me his family Christmas card which now hangs on my fridge.

From: NvaGvUp
29-Jan-15
What I find interesting here is that in all the years I've been on the CF, and with all the discussions we've had about various candidates during that time, never before have I seen such overwhelming agreement and general approval about a candidate as I'm seeing here with Scott Walker.

I've got to think that if this phenomena is happening here, it's happening all over the country. I would also bet it will continue to happen as more and more people learn about Walker, who he is and what he stands for.

Undoubtedly this same phenomena is why he won three elections for Governor in four years in a blue state.

From: Jim in Ohio
29-Jan-15
Now if he added, BUT THEY MUST COME LEGALLY THROUGH THE SYSTEM,I might consider him.

From: NvaGvUp
29-Jan-15
Jim,

Read Buckhunter's link. Walker said we need to have a better system that will allow people to come here legally.

Not exactly what I want to hear from him on the issue and at that time, at least, he was vague and did not outline his ideas in any detail. Now that he's running for President, he'll have to be a lot more specific.

From: gflight
29-Jan-15
He believes in allowing more legal immigration which was the problem that stemmed from Reagans plan. He also supports a plan for illegals currently here.

Let me repeat....

"I remember the thread and his values mirror my personal ones pretty darn close. I was surprised then and now that so many of you would like him"

Have you guys really looked into him? You may want to throw him under the bus for Romney....8^)

From: gflight
29-Jan-15
Oh wait, Romney supports amnesty too or does he?

From: Woods Walker
31-Jan-15
Living in northern Illinois, I've been aware of Walker for a while now. He's not perfect but he DID go head to head with the Dems and their all out attack on him and he never waivered. I like that.

If nothing else he's got guts and isn't afraid to put it all on the line. I don't see he doing a "Romney" in the final debate!!!

From: Pat C.
31-Jan-15
He's not perfect but who is ? There is no one out that we at CF could all agree is perfect lethalone the hole country. Gov. walker kicked the libs ass 3 times in 4 years. And won by bigger margins every time!

From: NvaGvUp
01-Feb-15
Today on ABC's "This Week," Walker said he does not support amnesty.

"GOV WALKER: SUPPORTING IMMIGRATION REFORM ‘DOESN’T MEAN AMNESTY’

Breitbart

by PAM KEY, Feb 1, 2015

Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) said supporting immigration reform “doesn’t mean amnesty.”

Walker said, “I think, for sure, we need to secure the border. We need the enforce the legal system. I’m not for amnesty. I’m not an advocate of the plans that have been pushed in Washington. And I think, should I become a candidate, because I’m not yet, it’s part of the exploratory process. We’re a country of balance. We’re a country of immigrants and laws. We can’t ignore the laws or the people that come in. Whether it’s Mexico or Central America.”

When asked if he supported deporting 11 million people, Walker answered, “That’s not what I’m advocating.”

“I’m saying in the end, we need to enforce the laws of the United States. Find a way for people to have a legitimate legal immigration system. And that doesn’t mean amnesty,” he concluded."

The words 'immigration reform' are commonly taken to mean amnesty, but when using the words as they are defined in dictionaries, all it means is a change from the existing policy.

Most of us here on the CF want secure borders and a fence, which would clearly be major immigration reform. So let's not just assume the term is 'code' for amnesty.

From: joshuaf
02-Feb-15

joshuaf's Link
For those who are antagonistic to Jeb Bush largely because of his stance on Illegal Immigration/Amnesty, yet love Scott Walker and think he is "the guy" to take on Hillary in 2016, you might want to slow your roll until you take a little more in-depth look not just at what Walker said on the subject in this most recent interview, but also what he said on the subject before he was a prospective Presidential candidate.

For instance, in a July, 2013 interview with a Wisconsin newspaper editorial board, he said the following:

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"It's all is about the 11 million [undocumented immigrants]," Walker said. "You hear some people talk about border security and a wall and all that. To me, I don't know that you need any of that if you had a better, saner way to let people into the country in the first place."

Walker added: "If people want to come here and work hard in this country, I don't care if you come from Mexico or Canada or Ireland or Germany or South Africa or anywhere else. I want them here."

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In the part that I bolded above, can anyone tell me those comments sound like someone who is very serious about securing the border?

One could easily draw the conclusion from those comments that Walker is almost in favor of practically open borders.

I'm going to have to hear a lot more specifics from him on his stance on this issue - and not have it be in serious conflict with previous things he has said on the subject - before I could get real serious about supporting him in the primaries.

He also has some history of support for Common Core education standards, though he supposedly is no longer in favor of it, opting instead to have statewide standards for Wisconsin only.

From: joshuaf
02-Feb-15

joshuaf's Link
He also said, about 6 months earlier, that he no longer favored an:

"Arizona-style" immigration bill that would allow local police to stop suspected illegal immigrants because it would be a "huge distraction" from accomplishing his agenda.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/walker-says-arizona-style-immigration-bill-would-be-huge-distraction/article_a8630484-3f3e-11e2-8205-0019bb2963f4.html

From: ar troy
02-Feb-15
"The words 'immigration reform' are commonly taken to mean amnesty, but when using the words as they are defined in dictionaries, all it means is a change from the existing policy."

Closing our borders to illegal immigration, and enforcing the immigration laws we have on the books would be a "change from the existing policy." Why don't we give that a try?

From: 70lbdraw
02-Feb-15
I lived in WI during the whole recall thing. It was truly a pleasure to watch him piss off the unions and loud mouthed liberals! He has my vote!

From: joshuaf
02-Feb-15
trublucolo, so you're not in favor of any kind of "profiling" on people you think might possibly be guilty of a crime?

I applaud Walker's stiff spine in standing up against - and beating - the Unions. That is only one issue among many important ones, though. I'm not voting for him based on his strength on one single issue, nor would I vote for anyone based upon their strength on one single issue. My guess is, if he's the nominee, the Democrats will throw the kitchen sink at him with extra vigor exactly because of his willingness to take on the Unions. If that happens, he won't be able to afford to lose any Republican votes because of some positions he holds that are seen as antagonistic to Conservatism. Best to get that vetting out of the way well ahead of time.

From: Shuteye
02-Feb-15
He has already been vetted inside and out during the recall election and the democrats failed. If he had any skeletons in the closet they would have found them.

From: joshuaf
03-Feb-15
trublucolo, regarding profiling, you're obviously looking at things through a purely political prism, and I'm looking at it through a right or wrong prism, so we're clearly not starting with the same frame of reference.

Regarding Immigration "reform", do we really need immigration "reform"? Or, do we need to just properly secure the border and enforce the laws already on the books?

From: HA/KS
03-Feb-15
joshuaf, who would you support?

From: joshuaf
03-Feb-15
If the primary were TODAY? I'd vote for Ted Cruz, hands down.

From: Mint
03-Feb-15
Walker is a Governor in a blue state but got real conservative changes to be put into place. He stayed the course after the legislature, courts and unions tried every trick they knew against him. I don't think we will ever send back all the illegals and I'm ok with that as long as they can never become citizens.

From: joshuaf
03-Feb-15
Mint, are you making a personal statement or are you comparing it to what you think Scott Walker also believes? My more pressing concern is border security so that the number of people here illegally doesn't keep growing exponentially while we try to decide what to do about them.

From: HA/KS
03-Feb-15
I like Cruz. He is a senator with some great positions. What has he done besides politics? (not a complaint, a question)

From: Mint
04-Feb-15
I'm making a personal statement of what I think needs to be done and is doable.

1. Seal off the Border.

2. If you are an illegal alien you can apply for a work permit but you cannot become a citizen or receive any federal benefits.

3. anybody with a criminal record is immediately deported and make it a federal crime of 10 years in prison if they come back.

4. Any new people that come over the border illegally must be deported. If caught second time they are charged with a felony and 5 years in jail.

5. Make refugee status very difficult to grant and receive and no chance to appeal.

6. Repeal the 1965 immigration act.

And my wife who is from Venezuela immigrated to the USA legally and I would bet most legal immigrants feel the same way.

From: joshuaf
04-Feb-15

joshuaf's Link
"What has he done besides politics?"

I would encourage you to spend a few minutes reading his Wikipedia page. In my opinion, he is unusually accomplished for his age. In other words, he has done a lot in his life.

From: gflight
12-Feb-15
I don't think it's polite to respond on policy in the United States when you're in a foreign country," Walker said when asked about Islamic State. "That's certainly something I'll answer in the future."

Good moves.

The Dem's are already starting with the dummy line and finishing college....

From: itshot
12-Feb-15
"he refused to say"

Is that better/worse than flat-out lying on an important stance to gain support?

never mind, look who I'm asking

From: NvaGvUp
12-Feb-15
Dishonest, banned trolls are not welcome on my threads.

From: NvaGvUp
12-Feb-15
According to a new poll just out, Walker leads in CA among GOP voters with 20%. No other potential candidate gets more than 10%.

From: joshuaf
13-Feb-15
Rest assured, despite the fact that Walker nearly graduated from College, if he gets the nomination, by the end of the campaign the media will have done their best to convince American voters that George W. Bush was practically a scholar compared to the intellect of Scott Walker. Even though it wouldn't be fair to Walker for any reasonable person to judge him on the basis of a college degree alone, that is one line of attack the media would never be able to use effectively against Ted Cruz if he were the nominee.

From: Fulldraw1972
13-Feb-15
So far I like what I have been reading about Walker. If he is on the ticket for Pres I will vote for him.

Question though, What is his stance on hunting, wildlife, gun rights, etc. I realize there are way bigger issues then that but its a big issue for me. I know nothing of the guy other then what I have read here.

From: gflight
26-Feb-15
We need another eagle scout president...

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