Federal CCP Bill - 2015
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It will sure piss off states like NY and MN and all the other states that won't honor CCPs now!
Since when does Mn. not allow reciprocity? This I was unaware of! I hate this state! And they reelected all the same dumb asses!
I'd prefer the feds stay out of it. Let the states figger it out. Remember, the feds giveth, the feds taketh away.
If the feds take away reciprocity, we have the current system.
We have reciprocity for Driver's licenses. We should have it for a CCW as well.
Bowbender x3.
Think it through. Legislation like this will actually legitimize anti-gun mayors and politicians to affect policy across the nation. Last thing I want is little Mikey Bloomberg dictating policy because he is, by virtue of this bill, "forced to comply with" gun laws of other states. Very, very bad idea.
We have had a bill regarding interstate transport of personal firearms since, what, 1986?
BK,
"We have reciprocity for Driver's licenses. We should have it for a CCW as well."
Reciprocity for a privilege is one thing, reciprocity for a right spelled out in the constitution....well lets just say I don't trust the feds. Look at the ammo ban being pushed, FCC takeover of the web....
Nah, I think I'll let the states continue to work it out. 'Sides I'm not a fan of the feds telling the states what to do, even if I agree with it.
NFA firearms only, to be specific and it is stupid.
It was in response to legitimate travel across state lines, and the checkerboard of gun laws from state to state. Good-intentioned people were running afoul of state laws, as they do in stupid law states like New York and New Jersey.
Hangunlaw.us
Good site with interactive map of what state honors what state's permits. Very useful if planning a road trip as it also allows one to check state regs, which can vary widely.
MI is recognized in most states except the usual candidates. Michigan honors all other Resident Permits/Licenses to carry concealed firearms. Which means that IL does not recognize my permit, but an IL permit holder can carry in MI. I'd like to see law changed that for MI to honor an out of state permit, reciprocity must be recognized.
MN does not recognize permits from many states.
States that MN honors permits:
Alaska
Arkansas
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Missouri
New Mexico
Nevada
Ohio
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Wyoming
"Good-intentioned people were running afoul of state laws, as they do in stupid law states like New York and New Jersey."
Ya, I know. I also know the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Between the FCC and the BATF proposed bullet ban, I am so pissed I could eat iron and sh!t nails. I absolutely, positively do not trust our government and its unaccountable, malevolent bureaucracies.
The rampant growth of the administrative agencies may be the downfall of this constitutional republic. Lay this at the feet of FDR, with the "switch in time that saved the nine.".
There already is nation wide reciprocity in this country. It 's called THE SECOND AMMENDMENT!!!! It's all any of us need....and the government can go pound sand!
SB, then go carry in New York, and see what happens. Bring a lot of money, and have the name of a great attorney and bail bondsman in your pocket.
Of course, you could take it to the Supreme Court, which is probably a $500,000 endeavor, and you'll lose some percentage of your life in custody. Go for it.
"We have had a bill regarding interstate transport of personal firearms since, what, 1986?"
"There already is nation wide reciprocity in this country. It 's called THE SECOND AMMENDMENT!!!! It's all any of us need....and the government can go pound sand!"
Tell that to the NJ transit police while their "legally" opening your Xmas gifts...
Any law abiding citizen that has been jailed or worse for believing in their rights under the constitution, has been treated illegally under our constitution! Doesn't ' anyone even know the law governing this Republic? And why aren't THESE laws upheld? NO dictator and his lackies is telling me what I can and cannot do. No one does a damn thing about any of this crap.... and therein lies the problem! There has always been a thing called " the law of the land", you know ... Like you don 't kill people, or steal from people etc. If you did...well there was always a tree and a rope! We don't NEED a federal government at all. All they do is F... things up, and stick their nose into everyone's business. And they are the cause of EVERYTHING that has gone bad in this country. I'm NOT cow- towing to these commies anymore.... and once again.... They can ALL pound sand. I'm old.. my AARP card stands for armed and really pissed.. I did 3 tours in 'Nam.. for what? Bring it! I couldn't 't care less at this point!
That law won't do squat for me. Maryland won't let me have a permit to carry, even when I had a license to sell handguns in Maryland. They would give me a permit to carry while taking money to the bank. I have a permit but it is from Virginia and Maryland doesn't recognize it. I could drive two miles to Delaware and carry but would be illegal for those two miles.
I initially wanted the feds to leave it alone. Now I want them to man up. Fight these thugs on every front without hesitation.
I am tired of hearing its the law and their just doing their jobs. Then folks saying vote to change it when the states are so statist that will never happen.
Just like the Nazi prison guards even so called conservatives support the people who are a part of enforcing unjust laws. Our next despot is just around the corner and our rights are one generation away from extinction....