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Rocky 11-Aug-15
Owl 11-Aug-15
Mint 11-Aug-15
HA/KS 11-Aug-15
Sixby 12-Aug-15
sawtooth 12-Aug-15
nowheels 12-Aug-15
Jim Moore 12-Aug-15
South Farm 12-Aug-15
bad karma 12-Aug-15
gadan 12-Aug-15
bad karma 12-Aug-15
bad karma 12-Aug-15
bad karma 12-Aug-15
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bad karma 12-Aug-15
Sixby 12-Aug-15
HA/KS 12-Aug-15
bad karma 12-Aug-15
Thumper 12-Aug-15
Sixby 12-Aug-15
Sixby 12-Aug-15
Rocky 12-Aug-15
bad karma 12-Aug-15
Rocky 12-Aug-15
Sixby 13-Aug-15
bad karma 13-Aug-15
sundowner 13-Aug-15
Mike B 13-Aug-15
South Farm 13-Aug-15
Rocky 13-Aug-15
bad karma 13-Aug-15
Sixby 13-Aug-15
Rocky 13-Aug-15
Owl 13-Aug-15
Sixby 13-Aug-15
Jim Moore 14-Aug-15
Rocky 14-Aug-15
LINK 14-Aug-15
Sixby 14-Aug-15
HA/KS 14-Aug-15
Rocky 14-Aug-15
Jim Moore 14-Aug-15
Sixby 14-Aug-15
HA/KS 15-Aug-15
Thumper 12-Jan-17
From: Rocky
11-Aug-15
It is hard to answer that yes or no.

No...to the Republican Party as it stands.

The Rock

From: Owl
11-Aug-15
Of the top 10, I will not vote for: Trump, Bush, Christie or Kasich. A vote for them is a vote for the DNC.

From: Mint
11-Aug-15
I'll vote for whoever the Republican nominee is. I might not like it but I will do everything I can to keep a Dem out.

From: HA/KS
11-Aug-15
I will vote for the republican nominee - IF I consider them the candidate who most closely represents my values and has a chance to win.

My top now are Walker, Cruz, and Carson. A different candidate may convince me down the road. Of the ones currently getting the most noise, Fiorina, Bush, Christie, and Trump are at the bottom of my list (no special order, they are all off my list).

From: Sixby
12-Aug-15
I can honestly say at this moment that if the candidate is Cruz, Walker, CArson, Allen West, I will vote for them , Anyone else and I will consider it. I will not vote for Bush. Cruz is by far the best candidate IMHO.

God bless, Steve

From: sawtooth
12-Aug-15
I will vote Republican.

From: nowheels
12-Aug-15
Mint x100. I shudder to think of having to vote for someone like Bush or Christie and pray that doesn't happen.

As it stands right now my top 3 for the primary in order are Cruz, Walker and Carson.

From: Jim Moore
12-Aug-15
"Can anyone give examples of nations in this bad of condition that didn't need to hit revolution stage before it actually became heakthy again?"

Buck, I don't think we are close enough to the "third world" for a revolution to happen. Americans for the most part are fat, dumb and happy. We have the attention span of a squirrel with ADD. As long as we get our daily dose of the Kardashians, there is no chance of a revolution.

I think whether or not we vote, write in a name, or stay home should be tempered with whom do you want to pick the next Supreme Court? 4 to 8 years is a a pretty good stretch and there are a couple of supremes that are getting long in the tooth.

Do you want the avowed socialists to pick the next two or three supremes, or would you rather have a RINO pick them?

From: South Farm
12-Aug-15
If the nominee is Bush or Christie you'll find me in my deerstand that day, but not at the polls...I won't be part of the status quo.

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
The GOP has Bush fatigue. I don't see Jeb having much of a ceiling either.

For me, I'm waiting to see how things settle out after Trump's inevitable flame out.

From: gadan
12-Aug-15
Cruz, Walker

But any Republican that wins.....even if that means holding my nose.

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
I do not believe Trump has a shot at being the nominee. If he is, since I don't know which side of a position he will take at this time, I'll make my decision on him at that point.

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
I have said for years that I don't want someone who thinks New York City is normal in the White House, or for that matter, the Supreme Court, Hackbow. The rest of the country, including these square states out west, live differently. In Trump's case, his track record is that of a liberal Democrat.

The good news is that I consider his odds of winning the nomination at less than 5%.

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
Yes, people who are lazy thinkers.

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
No, I have not, but you like lazy thinking. I didn't like Trump before 2010, much less 2015. And I did not say that I was not voting for the R nominee, I wrote, clearly, that I was withholding my judgment.

You are jumping to conclusions. I can only guess why you want to jump to conclusions and then argue about them. Perhaps you think that makes you look smart. You are mistaken.

I know you think you're the cat, but you're really the mouse.

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
Hackbow, yes, I do not like Trump. Did not like him in 2010, didn't like him in 2000. I'll bet $100 right now, payable to your state bowhunting association, that he will not be the Republican nominee. I'll bet you won't take that bet.

Hence, this is just argubation on your part.

From: Sixby
12-Aug-15
Cummings:I like Ted Cruz also. I like him a lot. I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

However, I'm a little confused as to why you would even consider him. Based on the eligibility criteria you've laid out for others, he would not even be ELIGIBLE to be POTUS.

Can you explain?

Sixby: Not sure of the intent of your question. I have many reasons I will vote for Cruz. If you refer to him being born in Canada. That has been explained many times.

God bless, Steve

From: HA/KS
12-Aug-15
"And HA, your answer is a little ambiguous. If Trump is the republican nominee, will you vote for him?"

I always take my time choosing who to vote for. I do not know at this time if I would vote for Trump. In a primary absolutely not. In the general election if it came down to him or hilary...

Hilary is a known and Trump is an unknown. He might jump left or right on any given issue, and maybe switch to the other side on that same issue at a later time. That could be even more dangerous than hilary for this reason: If elected as a republican, he could get things passed that she could not. That could be bad, very bad.

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
Wow, Hackbow, you must be really trying hard to learn the obvious.

Here's a clue for you: If Rosie O'Donnell gets the Republican nomination, no I won't vote for her.

Here's another clue for you: Almost everything has a sliding scale.

From: Thumper
12-Aug-15
"I'll vote for whoever the Republican nominee is. I might not like it but I will do everything I can to keep a Dem out." .....This.

All the LWL's need is one more SCOTUS Justice.

From: Sixby
12-Aug-15
Cummings:It's really quite simple. Either both Cruz and Obama are both natural born citizens or neither of them are.

Explain please. Why do you say this? Isn't that a false premis? It has been publically explained why Cruz is an elgible candidate despite the fact that he was born in Canada. In fact if my memory is correct he was born of American parents on an American Air base but my memory may not be correct./ However when I heard the explanation it was a very valid explanation and it has not been questioned by anyone I know of but you.

Obama is on the other hand a walking question about everything . A huge amount of people question the validity of his presidency. Huge,. NOt just a few but millions./ We have never had any answers. No college records. Three million dollars spent to seal them up and hide them.; No valid birth certificate, The one shown was proven to be an overlay and false. His own relatives claiming he was born in Kenya, raised by a Muslim Father and once you are born Islamic you are Islamic. Applied and received a grant as a citizen of Kenya to Harvard. No papers from Harvard. Come on , If this guy is not a plant there never was one. The only way you could say he is not is to call the people asking for answers to the questions goofballs and conspiracy theorists. He is fundamentally changing this nation. loading it with future Communists and liberal left voters , currently called immigrants but only a couple of years ago called iiiegal aliens/ He has alienated our best allies , made friends of our enemies, sold out our manufacturing and destroyed our economy. Is building a personal army that is at his beck and call., buying all of the survival food in the entire nation,. buying huge quantities of ammunition and armament. Setting terrorists free and calling traitors heros. You would have to be a blinking , blind man to not see that Obama is quite capable of continuing his madness to the point of taking this nation over himself or putting someone in place to do so and continue his regeime.

God bless, Steve

From: Sixby
12-Aug-15
LOt of double mindedness going on here when one side says you have to back the EGOP nominee but say that if Trump is nominated you will not vote for him. It has to cut both ways. You are saying exactly what Trump said but blaming him for it and excusing yourselves.

If Trump is the nominee will you vote for him?? A huge amount of the GOP biggies keep saying no way will Trump ever get the nomination. What that tells me is that the fix is in for Bush.

If Bush is the nominee I will not vote for him. He could have stopped the murder of Terry Schaivo and did not but let her go without food or water for 13 days and suffer terribly. I cannot stomach the murderer and will never see him without thinking about a governor that would not stop that. Same with his brother. They are both culpabable and will will answer to God for what they did not do.

God bless, Steve God bless, Steve

From: Rocky
12-Aug-15
Everyone now has the opportunity, thanks to Hillary, to list why their candidate should win the nomination without dismantling everyone else.

She must have made me a politician because even I am changing my tune but I don't mind being wrong with her looking up to see the bottom.

Someone here said anybody but Hillary on a post. I think somebody up there likes you. I am feeling awfully good. I mean AWFULY good.

The Rock

From: bad karma
12-Aug-15
Well, Hackbow, for years you've berated me and others, claiming we are automatic vote for the GOP. I tell you that I don't want to vote for Trump, and you berate me for not being an automatic vote for the GOP.

I guess you think having both sides of the argument make you clever. You'd be half right.

From: Rocky
12-Aug-15
Hackbow,

Not that it was your intention but..impressive, very impressive. You are another one I am putting in the soup for agreeing with you to the powers that be. ;-)

The Rock

From: Sixby
13-Aug-15
Cummings:I'm not even going to get into all your conspiracy stuff except to say that if you are convinced he's a "plant," you also must believe that all the democrats that voted for his policies are "plants" too. Or were they just under is Jedi mind control?

So you dismiss everything I say as conspiracy stuff and don't answer. Just another ploy to not answer IMHO. All the Democrats and most of the blacks vote for Obama because of two things. He is a Democrat Socialist and he is Black. They do not give a hoot about this country or the consequences of their voting as long as it facilitates the movement of the Progressive Socialist and their wicked agenda.

So this is like, a one way conversation. I continue to answer you and you fail to answer me. Conversation over. I never went for one way love affairs and do not go for one way conversations that are good for nothing but giving you an opportunity to name call. Again , This is your nature and I forgive you.

God bless, steve

From: bad karma
13-Aug-15
Hackbow, enjoy both sides of the argument. Just don't pretend that others can't see it.

From: sundowner
13-Aug-15
Careful Hackbow. When you get the better of this guy in a debate, he starts calling names and attempts to belittle his opponent, talking down, etc......you know....like Democrats do. Last name he called me......."twisted", I think it was.

If nothing else these types are predictable. Even to us unwashed, uneducated non-elitists.

From: Mike B
13-Aug-15
All this good debate...

Imagine what the CF is gonna look like 12 months from now!

From: South Farm
13-Aug-15
I saw Trump on Hannity again last night. I thought I was watching a re-run because he gave almost the exact same speech he did a month ago...I'll do this, I'll do that, because I know how...but little to no specifics on the how part. I liked his forthright attitude the first time he said certain things, specifically concerning the border, but now I see he's all about shock value with very little substance. I wouldn't vote for him and I believe, even though I agree with the premise of what he's saying, that he's getting in the way and overshadowing some potentially very good and better qualified candidates. I've seen this happen twice before in Minnesota (Ventura and Franken), where celebrity trumped authenticity and won. (pardon the pun) Trump would be the proverbial dog that finally catches the bus...now what does he do with it that he's got it?!?

From: Rocky
13-Aug-15
Not us conservatives by God, we need to fix it all in one shot, with one candidate, and one election. And if we can't, we'll just hand it over to them...and bitch.

KPC....how long has it been. How long with one single candidate that has delivered on his message and litany of promises. How long. I will tell you how long. Too long. That is why R's are frustrated and want it now. You prefer to keep building on shifting sand. Others and many of them do not agree.

SF,

I thought I was watching a re-run because he gave almost the exact same speech he did a month ago...I'll do this, I'll do that, because I know how...

That sounds like the same BS we have been fed from the same farm for way too long. Now all of a sudden because it is Trump is somehow different. Oh..oh.. that's right I forgot you also said.... that he's getting in the way and overshadowing some potentially very good and better qualified candidates.

Qualified to do WHAT? We are living the qualifications of those most qualified. Look at the houses. You tell me.

The Rock

From: bad karma
13-Aug-15
Hackbow, I made it clear, but apparently still not clear enough, that I believe that Trump will flame out well before the primaries are settled. Therefore, your question is a hypothetical at best.

But you wish to proceed as a twelve year old, so please, take your tired pile of horsedung to some middle school.

From: Sixby
13-Aug-15
To reason with anyone you have to have two reasonable people. Cummins is not reasonable. Its why I quit the conversation with him. There is no sense in trying to reason with an un reasonable person. They have the do not answer., call names , obsfucate and change the subject deal down pat. I don't play that game. My name is not Don Quijote and I do not tilt with windmills./

God bless, Steve

From: Rocky
13-Aug-15
There is no value what so ever in debating people who continue fanatic in the ways of the present RNC. None. That party, OUR party, yes all of us, is a combination of weak status quo do nothings that believe all of the people can be fooled all of the time. Guess what. They are right because the evidence is right here on this site. A grain of sand on the beach...not to demean this site which is a great platform BTW.

Some here however have had enough, no, too much and their choice of candidates or arguments against echoes that frustration. People who want to carry on because they always carried on in the American tradition can do so. When you are numb the needle never hurts and obviously many people here have been "under" for quite some time.

Old habits, even failed one's are hard to break. In the process they break everything else around them in the name of a democratic process so deeply engrained that an alternative is to be a traitor of some sort. Not with this group leading us now....I amend that...you now.

When '17' rolls around you will see the big chair with a big mouth and big promises filling it.. Then the party begins and the people become as useless as yesterdays papers. Until of course when the ball starts rolling again just 2 yrs later....and ..again and again. Hear this candidates with your paten leather shoes and open collars.....as Don Meredith once said...THE PARTY'S OVER. This , this party is long done and over.

The Rock

From: Owl
13-Aug-15
"I'm backing the Republican!"

-So am I. There are just so darned few left running for the GOP nomination!

From: Sixby
13-Aug-15
Its certainly easy to see why CArson is rising in the polls/

God bless, steve

From: Jim Moore
14-Aug-15
Just curious, if the disaffected republicans/conservatives/independents on here aren't going to vote for the republican candidate in the general election, are they going to vote for Trump?

I just think that Trump will go 3rd party for retribution against the GOP. Kind of like what some of you all are thinking about.

I still don't know what I am going to do. After all its a year out.

I will vote for the candidate that I think will nominate the best SCOTUS selections. After all, they're the real power in this country anymore.

From: Rocky
14-Aug-15
I do not think will Trump will go 3r party unless someone on the RNC really ruffles his feathers. That last dis-invite was senseless and all it accomplished was to make the bulls eyes red. If he does not win the nomination straight up he will bow out. The RNC has already approached him hat in hand after that last debacle. That is all a man like this needs. You watch and don't be surprised.

He has made his point and made it well that you do not fuq with a man of his resources and determination no matter how whacky he may seem.

The Rock

From: LINK
14-Aug-15
I will vote for the (R) nominee. Even if Bush is only minutely better than a Democrat I'll go vote.

From: Sixby
14-Aug-15
Spike:OH PULLEEEEZE don't start that red herring again, LINK, I will always go vote, just not for anyone I don't like.

Right on, Especially someone that does not express core values and platform of the party plus is a defender of the constitution. Truth be that even though I applaud many of the things Trumpet says I cannot support anyone that will fund Planned Parenthood. So far I can support CArson, Walker and Cruz, Oh and Allen West. I do love what Trumpet is doing to the EGOP though. I think Americans love to see bullies ( EGOP) slapped around by someone they have no control over and that is why Trumpet is so popular. Just hoping when it comes to election time that Cruz, Walker or Carson rise like the cream that they are.

God bless, Steve

From: HA/KS
14-Aug-15
"No surgeon is going to arrive.

NO surgeon is going to arrive!"

No idea where that image came from! It was supposed to be a pic of Carson.

From: Rocky
14-Aug-15
That's the beauty of our system spike, you are free to vote for whoever you like. You can vote for Donald Duck, Elmer Fudd or any other third party candidate you choose.

...and there-in lays the reason for our whole fuqed up system and the reason why we get what we deserve.

A system that buys your vote no matter which way YOU do.

I am not explaining because if that is beyond your comprehension you have lost the ability or never had to begin with the understanding of this so called Republic.

The Rock

From: Jim Moore
14-Aug-15
Going to ask this one more time before y'all get done tearing the flesh off of each other's bones:

You going to vote for SCOTUS picks or a "president."

If I was a debate moderator, this question would be front and center:

Who or what kind of supreme are you going to nominate?

You guys that claim to be all about this country need to think about that. They will make the determination on planned parenthood, gays, 2nd amendment...on and on. They overturn votes all the time. They are the defacto rulers of this country.

From: Sixby
14-Aug-15
Bad Supremes seem to be a non partisan deal. Seems like one of the worst Justices of all times was a Bush nomination. However the Dems have better judgment in the fact that they seem to always nominate liberal socialist. But hey , maybe that about all we have to choose from./ God bless, steve

From: HA/KS
15-Aug-15

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"No surgeon is going to arrive.

NO surgeon is going to arrive!"

From: Thumper
12-Jan-17
I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet Trump wins the presidential election.

Lol

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