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From: Anony Mouse
08-Dec-15
This thread was created for educational purposes only. "Debate" will be limited.

Often there have been comments about Islam that demonstrate little understanding of what this country and the world are dealing with when it comes to fundamental Islam and its relation to modern secular society.

The purpose of this thread is to provide some educational background and provide some clues as to why so many politicians seem so clueless when dealing with Muslims, Islam and the need for global jihad. I hope that any who post will contribute resources and filter out opinions.

Please, do not comment based upon your personal beliefs. As thread owner, I intend to monitor this thread and will TOT any remarks that I consider digressive, irrelevant or off topic.

First, a great article that provides some historical background on the relationship between ISIS and Saudi Arabia. (Which is known to provide much funding for the spread of Islam globally):

You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia

Long article...read carefully, There will be a test later ;o)

From: Anony Mouse
08-Dec-15
Part II:

Middle East Time Bomb: The Real Aim of ISIS Is to Replace the Saud Family as the New Emirs of Arabia

BEIRUT -- ISIS is indeed a veritable time bomb inserted into the heart of the Middle East. But its destructive power is not as commonly understood. It is not with the "March of the Beheaders"; it is not with the killings; the seizure of towns and villages; the harshest of "justice" -- terrible though they are -- that its true explosive power lies. It is yet more potent than its exponential pull on young Muslims, its huge arsenal of weapons and its hundreds of millions of dollars.

Its real potential for destruction lies elsewhere -- in the implosion of Saudi Arabia as a foundation stone of the modern Middle East. We should understand that there is really almost nothing that the West can now do about it but sit and watch...

(more at link)

From: slade
10-Dec-15
Imam Yasir Hadhi is a college professor in Tennessee. Hadhi says Christians are “shirk” and “evil” and Muslims can take their property.

From: Dave G.
11-Dec-15
Excellent posts Jack. Alastair Crooke is absolutely spot on.

I say that because I had the distinct pleasure (some here may not feel that way) of meeting on numerous occasions with the Deputy Governor of the Asir Province in the KSA during the late '80's. During a couple of those meetings, Prince Faisal talked at length about the history of his country and the Asir region specifically, and much of this discussion centered around Wahhabism, as well as the conflicts in the region between the Sunnis and Shiites.

While this was nearly 30 years previous to what's going on today with Daesh, much of those discussions confirm in my mind that which Mr. Crooke speaks of in his articles.

If Daesh isn't crushed now, and I mean NOW, and the same havoc is wreaked within the KSA, its going to make the last 25 years of conflict we've been involved in since Desert Shield/Desert Storm seem like a picnic.

From: Anony Mouse
11-Dec-15
Far too many people do not understand that Islam is NOT a religion per say. It is a political system wrapped in a cloak of religiosity. The basic tenets written in the Queer-On (I no longer will give Islam the courtesy of naming its book by any of the more accepted spellings.)are antithetical to our western secular civilized society.

Any cult that can condone lying to promote itself (Ah--the source of Religion of Pieces)and hold its members above all other beliefs, cannot be tolerated. We can see the results as demonstrated in Great Britain, France, Germany, and elsewhere where Islam is allowed to replace civilization.

I will have more articles detailing the fallacies that the proregressive left, the apologist GoP and media foist on the public that allow any sympathies to the promoted Islamic invasion of this country.

From: Anony Mouse
11-Dec-15
Remember sharia is based upon queer-onic babble by a paedophile upon which a political and legal system is based.

It is far from a religion of peace and deserves to be isolated anywhere in the world but a civilized society. From its pigskin bound leafs:

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter (Koran 5:33)

I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off. (8:12)

Anyone who has any sympathy for the muslim invasion should forego time playing video games and read the words upon what they base their beliefs and would force upon this country.

From: Anony Mouse
11-Dec-15
It isn't going to get better. Studies show that second generation muslim-"american" children are more apt to become radicalised than their parents.

And those muslims whom would be imported to our country have already begun to indoctrinate their children:

From: Anony Mouse
11-Dec-15
While "all" muslims are not terrorists (they may be abettors or bystanders), all terrorists are muslims.

MISSOURI ON ALERT: After Bulk Cellphone Purchases, DOZENS of Propane Tanks are Stolen

A similar situation occurred in Caro, MI. where muslim bulk cell phone purchases came at a time when authorities had been warned of threat to blow up the Mackinaw Bridge.

From: Anony Mouse
11-Dec-15
Whittle, as usual, hits the 10 ring...

I think he should have included most of the GoP wannabee's and the media with Obama and company.

There are few if any of the so called "moderate muslims". Until such time as they are forced to take a position and openly stand against jihad, they are the same as the Germans who stayed quiet and went along.

More Whittle...

From: Anony Mouse
12-Dec-15
By The Numbers - The Untold Story of Muslim Opinions & Demographics. The facts the Media Party doesn't want you to see

A new video by the Clarion Project takes on radical Islamism, its myths and how it's becoming harder and harder to speak about Islam without being fear of being a 'racist' or 'Islamophobic'.

According to the video description, “By the Numbers is an honest and open discussion, hosted by Raheel Raza president of Muslims Facing Tomorrow, about Muslim opinions and demographics. This is about the acceptance that radical Islam is a bigger problem than most politically correct governments and individuals are ready to admit.”

Using clips from blind Islamic supporters, Raza tackles the myths propped up by the left using facts, numbers and the truth.

“Is ISIS, the Islamic State, trying to penetrate the US with the refugee influx, are Muslims radicalised in US soil, are organizations such as CAIR who purport represent American Muslims accepting and liberal or radicalised with links to terror organizations,” the video description concludes.

The truth will shock you. The silence from the Media Party is deafening. You have to watch this.

Those inner circles described are in large enough numbers to taint the rest of Islam for the simple fact that very few practicing muslims have the courage to stand and recognize that Islam has a problem. This will continue until Islam, like Christianity, has a reformation movement.

26%...remember that number.

I like the term "Mediaparty"...lumps the OPRESS™ with the Uniparty ;o)

From: Anony Mouse
20-Dec-15
Facts are a Bitch -- [Watch] Crusades Were Christian Response To Jihad – Same Problem, Different Time...

Dr. Bill Warner of the Center for the Study of Political Islam put together a highly informative video and associated “dynamic battle map” which puts the early Islamic jihads and the ultimate response of Christians to their relentless attacks and oppression, the Crusades, into perspective.

He recommends that anytime we meet someone who is an apologist for jihad, such as the current occupant of the White House, they should be confronted with the truth and he illustrates that truth in a very easy to understand and digest format in this short presentation.

The map and presentation uses a database of 548 battles around the Mediterranean and Black Sea to contrast the aggression of the barbaric Muslims with the response of their civilized targets, largely Spain, France, Italy and Greece. Other regions such as Africa, India and Afghanistan are not part of the database, so the presentation is incomplete, but it does provide an excellent foundation for understanding who was the aggressor and who was justified in their actions.

Since the seventh century and beyond, those who call Islam a religion of peace are being deceptive. They are often just the opposite, violent aggressors intent on world domination. That has been their goal since their inception and it remains their goal today.

From: Anony Mouse
21-Dec-15
Hillary accused Trump of being a tool used for ISIS recruitment. However, it turns out that her husband, Willy Wonkers, actually was.

Here is an ISIS recruitment video featuring all the Islamic enableists:

From: Anony Mouse
23-Dec-15
ISIS, ISIL AND DAESH: The Administration’s Words Matter By Richard Larsen

Last week President Obama addressed the nation in a rare Oval Office speech. The intent was to assuage concerns that the government isn’t doing enough to protect us from radicalized jihadists, like the couple in San Bernardino last week. But the speech may have raised more questions and apprehensions than provided answers or assurances. And perhaps the largest is in the language used to describe the threat.

The speech made reference to ISIL sixteen times. This is itself significant. ISIL is one of the retired acronyms the organization that prefers to be referred to as the Islamic State has used. The original acronym they employed was ISIS, or the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. ISIL, however, has much more broad regional significance, for it stands for Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

The Levant includes some historically significant territory, including not just Syria, but the region referred to in Biblical times as Palestine. So ISIL includes the entire Fertile Crescent from the Persian Gulf through southern Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, and northern Egypt. In other words, the entire region from the Taurus Mountains of Turkey in the North, the Mediterranean Sea on the west, the Tigris-Euphrates river system on the East.

Secretary of State uses a different term to identify the group. Since late last year Secretary John Kerry habitually has referred to them as Daesh. Perhaps just as incendiary as the president’s insistence on using the ISIL acronym, Daesh refers to the Arabic name of the group, ad-Dawlah al-Isl?miyah f? ‘l-?Ir?q wa-sh-Sh?m. The Arabic version implies that the Islamic State is a worldwide caliphate, with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as its caliph. As a caliphate, it claims “religious, political and military authority over all Muslims worldwide, and that the legality of all emirates, groups, states, and organizations becomes null by the expansion of the khil?fah’s [caliphate’s] authority and arrival of its troops to their areas,” according to Washington Post foreign affairs writer, Ishaan Tharoor.

The significance of the terms the administration chooses to employ in referencing the group cannot be overstated. With Secretary Kerry’s Daesh (or Da’ish) he may presume to be ideologically neutral, since it doesn’t have the name “Islamic” in it, (at least an English transliteration). He may also use the term in part due to his French allegiance. France’s Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius has said, “This is a terrorist group and not a state. I do not recommend using the term Islamic State because it blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims and Islamists. The Arabs call it ‘Daesh’ and I will be calling them the ‘Daesh cutthroats’.” Perhaps they’re both being either obtuse or naïve, thinking they’re avoiding “Islamic” with the Daesh designation. But use of this term grants the group universal pertinence as a global caliphate.

The President’s insistence on using ISIL could well betray his perpetual downplaying of the influence, scope, motives, and successes of the terrorist group. After the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, the military vacuum in the country began to be filled by ISIS forces in Northern Iraq. The President called them “jayvee” terrorists at the time they initially encroached into Iraq. And even while repeatedly saying they were “contained,” they have expanded to include 20% of the 169,234 square mile country. To put that in context, California, the third largest state in the U.S., is 163,694 square miles, and the area of ISIS control in Iraq is equivalent to the size of the state of South Carolina.

Obama has been unrelenting in his denunciation of Israel, and unremitting in his criticism of its leadership. In the earliest days of his presidency, he made his now infamous “Cairo Speech,” where he referenced Israel’s “occupation” of Palestinian lands, and the “daily humiliation” and “intolerable” condition of the Palestinians. And it’s only gotten worse since then.

Several times over the past five years, Obama administration officials have leaked classified Israeli information regarding defensive measures and offensive plans related to Iran. The effect has been an unmistakable chilling of the relationship between Washington and Tel Aviv, as Washington’s objectives seem clearly at odds with the protection and preservation of the state of Israel.

Even the heralded Iran Nuclear deal was done over Israel’s objections, since it assures Iran will be nuclearized by year ten of the agreement, and Iran has vowed to “blow Israel off of the map.”

So is it coincidental that Obama uses the ISIL name intentionally to include the Levant, which includes Israel? Indubitably not. Even by his chosen appellation for the terrorist group, the President continues his denunciation, disavowal, and rejection of the state of Israel. And rather than graduating to the more geographically broad “Islamic State” name the group applies to itself, he has chosen to stick with their earlier iteration which conspicuously includes the land of Israel.

Not only does our president consistently understate our enemies, and fail to accurately identify them, but he has severe problems recognizing our primary ally in the region, and providing the support key allies should expect from one another. If we’re to ever succeed in vanquishing ISIS, it’s not going to be by alienating our allies and placing them increasingly at risk.

Words matter. And in foreign affairs, the symbolism employed by policy-makers through their word choice, are of immense significance, not just to our allies but to our enemies as well. Our enemies should not be emboldened, and our allies alienated by the language they use.

From: Anony Mouse
23-Dec-15
Islam in India

Islam has been waging a vicious war against the rest of the world from the very beginning. It isn’t only Christians and Jews that Mohammedans hate; they hate everyone else who isn’t Muslim even more. The history of Islam in India is illustrative:

Meanwhile, we heard this from our probable next president during the Democrat debate last night:

“I worry greatly that the rhetoric coming from the Republicans, particularly Donald Trump, is sending a message to Muslims here in the United States, and literally around the world, that there is a clash of civilizations,” [Shrillary Rotten Clinton shrieked].

This clash of civilizations has been going on for 1,400 years. Only the most willfully ignorant are unaware of it.

The recent flare-up in Islamic aggression is directly correlated to Western decline. Muslims attack when they smell weakness. A society rotted through with liberalism to the point that it tolerates rule by people who do not defend its interests (i.e., Obama, Merkel, et al.) is ripe for conquest.

Sticking our heads in the sand is not a strategy. The world’s only hope is to join forces against Islam and its leftist allies.

From: Woods Walker
23-Dec-15
"This clash of civilizations has been going on for 1,400 years. Only the most willfully ignorant are unaware of it.

The recent flare-up in Islamic aggression is directly correlated to Western decline. Muslims attack when they smell weakness."

1000% dead on truth. When there is a power vaccum then it WILL be filled. This is the moment that Isalm has been waiting for the past millenia and a half .

From: Anony Mouse
23-Dec-15

From: Dooner
24-Dec-15
Here is another perspective that has a historical basis, and is perhaps a little more hopeful. The author of the editorial that is to appear in a local paper holds PhD s in medieval and middle eastern history. Laina is always interesting to talk to:

The History of How Religions Change. Laina Farhat-Holzman Pajaronian December 26, 2015

People on both ends of the political spectrum are stumbling around in their concern about Islam's future. On the conservative side is the belief that the West is at war with the Muslim world. This is true. The West is responding to Islamic radicalism's war against not only the West, but against secular Muslims themselves.

On the liberal side is the mistaken view that Islam is just a religion like other religions and given enough time will modernize. Islam is not just a religion; it is also a political ideology, and has been since its origin. The separation of Church and State that we now take for granted in the West is not accepted by Islamists at all. This is why we are seeing nation-states in the Arab world melting down, while Islamists take over, creating what they hope to become a super-Muslim empire called the Caliphate.

What makes many Muslim immigrants so dangerous in the modern West is not the basics of Islam, the benign “Five Pillars of the Faith,” which require daily prayer, charity, a month of fasting, acknowledgement of the oneness of God, and a once-in-a-lifetime pilgrimage to the homeland of their faith. The danger comes from a revival movement to emulate the warlord phase of the Prophet Mohammad's life in the 7th century. All the violence, the fervor, the delusion of re-conquest, and rejection of modern human rights values, comes from Islam's religious texts.

This conflict was experienced in the Christian world in the 16th century too, and after all the bloodshed and violence, religion never regained its former power. During the early 16th century, several key events changed everything: the invention of the printing press, an increase in popular literacy, and the unwillingness of literate people to accept the Catholic Church's monopoly of religious interpretation. They could now read for themselves.

A German monk, Martin Luther, rebelled against Catholic practices. He left the church and had the Bible translated from Latin into the language of his country, German. In England, because of a disgruntled king who could not get a Catholic divorce from a queen who bore him no male heirs, he too left the church and established his own church. He also accepted a hitherto forbidden act, the translation of the Bible into English.

Readers of the Bible found no mention of nuns, monks, popes, indulgences, or any of the other institutions that formed the Catholic Church. They saw that Christianity was not the same as the institutional church. The resulting protest movements across Europe gave rise to Protestantism and a century of vicious religious wars over the future of Christianity. Catholic Spain responded with an Inquisition aimed at burning dissidents and demanding conformity. Protestant states, such as England, defended themselves by hunting down what they considered an internal Fifth Column, Catholic conspirators. Catholic France rounded up and murdered a rising tide of French Protestants.

Ultimately, religion as a compulsory institution, lost out. People could join or leave non-violent religious sects at will. The United States, founded on Enlightenment principles, was the first country to separate church and state because together they create bad religion and a worse state.

Islam, frozen in the 12th century, is going through the pain of modernization. Murderous Islamists reject the concept of voluntary religion. They demand uniformity of belief and practice, and reject all modern values except for bombs, bullets, communications, and modern medicine (including Viagra) for their leadership. But groups such as the Council of Ex-Muslims in Britain (CEMB) has been deluged with Tweets from tens of thousands of secret ex-Muslims around the world, too many for fanatics to kill for “apostasy.”

Militant Islam is the world's enemy, not just the West's. Radicalized immigrants are a fifth column, doing damage to both secular Muslims and their host countries. For Muslims to thrive in the West (and hopefully in their own countries), they must make religion voluntary, putting loyalty to country ahead of loyalty to religion. Until “apostasy” no longer matters, there will be many more ex-Muslims. This is how a religion dies.

675 words Dr. Laina Farhat-Holzman is a historian, lecturer, and author of God's Law or Man's Law. You may contact her at [email protected] or www.globalthink.net.

From: Sixby
25-Dec-15
Islam is the Beast and is the tool of SAtan.

God bless,Steve

From: Anony Mouse
25-Dec-15
More proof that Obama is a Mooselime...the cult makes it all up as they go along. All it takes is to get some self-nominated imam to issue a fatwah to provide alibi or excuse for the most barbaric and reprehensible behaviour done by humans.

Islamic State okays taking organs of living non-Muslims

By Philip Klein

The Islamic State's religious scholars have ruled that taking the organs of non-Muslims is permissible under Islamic law to save the life of a Muslim, because killing apostates to eat their flesh has previously been allowed.

The revelation comes in a January 2015 document that was capured by U.S. special forces in Syria in May and obtained by Reuters.

The news agency posted a U.S. government translation of the document attributed to the Islamic State's research and fatwa committee.

"Allah almighty knows what's best and knows what's right and what is wrong and there is evidence from texts and Islamic principles and laws supporting the notion that transplanting organs from an apostate's body into a Muslim body in order to save the latter's life or replace a damaged organ with it is permissible," the document reads.

Citing the Koran (alt. spelling: Queer-On), the Islamic State scholars wrote that saving a Muslim from "death and deterioration is an Islamic legal duty."

But the document notes that Islamic jurists have "permitted, when necessary, the killing of the infidel combatant or the apostate should one need to consume their flesh for the purpose of saving his ownife." Islamic scholar Imam al-Nawawi, according to the document, wrote about the "legitmacy of killing the infidel fighters and apostates and eating them."

(QOTD: If a Mooselime were to eat a Jew, would that be the same as eating un-halal pork? jack)

The Islamic State scholars argue that "If the jurists had permitted, when necessary, the consumption of human flesh as a means counter to death or harm, then it is even more appropriate to transplant of organs from the apostate to the Muslim to save the life of the latter. This is especially true because it was ruled that the apostate's life and organs are not protected. On the contrary, the apostate's life and organs don't have to be respected and can be taken with impunity."

The document notes that, "The permission to transplant the apostate's organs into a Muslim body facilitates, allivieates and removes the diffculties endured by Muslims is corroborated by a reason strongly rooted in the pure Sharia."

As if those 15th century savages knew how to transplant organs…..

From: Dooner
25-Dec-15
I hate these savage as much as anyone else. However, I think we have to hope for a reformation of Islam similar to the one Christianity went through. Not all Muslims are fanatic Jihadists.

If we are considering killing all Muslims, think of this. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and only 300-400 million Americans. Carnage on that level would make the holocaust look like a picnic.

We need to target the Fanatics, and make it clear why we are doing it.

From: Sixby
26-Dec-15
I have not heard anyone advocating killing all Muslims, What we have to do to win is cut the head off of the snake. Literally kill all Islamic literalist and advocates of Jihad and make a world wide ban on it for the good of mankind. Put the rest under strict surveillance and outlaw sharia and any that advocate for it . I am not kidding., This is what it will take to win this war. We will do it or die and we will either do it while it is possible or attempt to do it when it may be too late./

Right now this movement must be stopped dead , whatever it takes including mass bombing , recall of the draft, Putting America into war production or whatever, They have to be destroyed. This is like a person with cancer that is near terminal . You do it when it can be killed or it may kill you by getting too far ahead.

IMHO Obama has either purposely furthered this Jihad or he has ignorantly done it. Honestly it seems like with the trades and policies that he has done this purposely ,. He has certainly moved with direction or influence of a lying spirit or of lying advisers. But the result is the same and intent is irrelevant at this time.

My great fear for this nation is its seeming inability to address the problem, repent of the sin and denial of God and objectively address the truth about Islam, that this is doctrinely driven and we have to remove the theology.

God bless, Steve

From: Anony Mouse
26-Dec-15
Considering the written content of Queer-On as the basis for their hybrid religion (mixture of government, law and social behavior based upon a barbaric paedophile self claimed prophet); until there is a reformation that comes from within, there is no place for Islam in the civilized world.

Many polls (!!)*have shown that a majority of Mooselims would prefer to live under their sharia law in western secular nations--even her in the US. Add to the mix that these polls (!!)* also indicate that they want all others to abide by sharia. That in itself is enough evidence that there is no place for Islam in the civilized world.

Far too many mosques around the world preach and teach the superiority of Islam and promote its replacing all other faiths. There is wide support within the Mooselim community world wide for global jihad--and all that connotates.

I would shed little tears if much of Islam were eliminated from the world. Let allah sort out the innocent-

Granted, there are "some" who do not hold to the strict tenets of Isalam--but in the heartlands of the Mooselim world, they are just at risk as any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, or any other faith.

*Somehow, using and depending on the word "polls" seems to have less meaning these days ;o)

From: Anony Mouse
27-Dec-15
WHY THOMAS AQUINAS DISTRUSTED ISLAM

The 13th-century scholar Thomas Aquinas, regarded as one of the most eminent medieval philosophers and theologians, offered a biting critique of Islam based in large part on the questionable character and methods of its founder, Mohammed.

According to Aquinas, Islam appealed to ignorant, brutish, carnal men and spread not by the power of its arguments or divine grace but by the power of the sword.

Aquinas, a keen observer of the human condition, was familiar with the chief works of the Muslim philosophers of his day–including Avicenna, Algazel, and Averroes–and engaged them in his writings.

Since Islam was founded and spread in the seventh century, Aquinas—considered by Catholics as a saint and doctor of the Church—lived in a period closer to that of Mohammed than to our own day.

In one of his most significant works, the voluminous Summa contra gentiles, which Aquinas wrote between 1258 and 1264 AD, the scholar argued for the truth of Christianity against other belief systems, including Islam.

Aquinas contrasts the spread of Christianity with that of Islam, arguing that much of Christianity’s early success stemmed from widespread belief in the miracles of Jesus, whereas the spread of Islam was worked through the promise of sensual pleasures and the violence of the sword.

Mohammad, Aquinas wrote, “seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure.”

Such an offer, Aquinas contended, appealed to a certain type of person of limited virtue and wisdom.

“In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men,” he wrote. “As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity.”

Because of the weakness of Islam’s contentions, Aquinas argued, “no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning.” Instead, those who believed in him “were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Muhammad forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms.”

Islam’s violent methods of propagation were especially unconvincing to Aquinas, since he found that the use of such force does not prove the truth of one’s claims, and are the means typically used by evil men.

“Mohammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms,” Aquinas wrote, “which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.”

At the time Aquinas was writing, Islam was generally considered a Christian heresy, since it drew so heavily on Christian texts and beliefs. Aquinas wrote that Mohammed “perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law.”

According to the noted historian Hilaire Belloc, Islam “began as a heresy, not as a new religion. It was not a pagan contrast with the Church; it was not an alien enemy. It was a perversion of Christian doctrine. Its vitality and endurance soon gave it the appearance of a new religion, but those who were contemporary with its rise saw it for what it was—not a denial, but an adaptation and a misuse, of the Christian thing.”

In his Summa contra gentiles, Aquinas ends his argument against Islam by offering a backhanded compliment to Mohammed, noting that he had to keep his followers ignorant in order for them to remain faithful.

It was, Aquinas wrote, “a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity.”

“It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly,” he wrote.

From: Anony Mouse
28-Dec-15
Muslim Immigration is What ISIS Wants

Posted by Daniel Greenfield

To understand ISIS, you have to understand the difference between terrorists and Islamic terrorists.

Ordinary terrorists have two goals; to compel the enemy to meet their political demands and to rally their supporters to consolidate their class, race or national identity group behind them.

Islamic terrorists are not interested in the “political demands” part. They will occasionally accept concessions and even offer Hudnas, temporary truces, but no permanent separate peace can be achieved with them. It’s why Israel’s peace process with terrorists has gone on failing for decades. It’s why the attempt by Gaddafi to achieve peace with the LIFG ended in a civil war and his death. It’s why Obama’s attempts to negotiate with the “moderate Taliban” failed miserably.

Al Qaeda and ISIS are not “negative” protest movements formed in response to our foreign policy. That’s a foolish self-centered idea held by foolish self-centered Westerners. Al Qaeda and ISIS are “positive” movements that seek to achieve larger religious goals entirely apart from us. Islamic terrorists are not responding to us. They are responding to the Koran and to over a thousand years of history.

Osama bin Laden did not carry out 9/11 to inflict harm on Americans. That was a secondary goal. His primary goal was to rally Muslims to build a Caliphate by encouraging them to attack America.

The ritualistic “Why do they hate us” browbeating favored by the chattering classes is nonsense. Al Qaeda hated us because we were not Muslims. But it was only using us as the hated “other” to consolidate a collective Muslim identity. We are to Islamists what the Jews were to Hitler; a useful scapegoat whose otherness can be used to manufacture a contrasting pure Aryan or Islamic identity.

No dialogue is possible with an ideology whose virtue is premised on seeing you as utterly evil.

You can negotiate with terrorists, though you shouldn’t. But Islamic terrorists rarely even bother to negotiate. Their core focus is on rallying local Muslims and the Ummah behind them. They don’t recognize national borders so any hope for a permanent peace behind recognized borders is wishful thinking. Islam is a transnational movement. Islamic terrorism is a race between terror groups around the world to carve out their own Islamic states and then use them as a springboard to a Caliphate.

ISIS is the end stage of Islamic terrorism. Its leader is a Caliph with all Muslims obliged to submit to him. The Islamic State is not just in Syria and Iraq. It is everywhere that a Muslim outpost swears allegiance to the Caliph. On its own maps the Islamic State encompasses parts of Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia and Russia. The more local Islamic terror groups pledge allegiance to ISIS, the bigger it becomes.

ISIS doesn’t plan to defeat America through acts of terrorism. The plan for defeating America, like every other country, Muslim or non-Muslim, is to build a domestic Muslim terror movement that will be able to hold territory and swear allegiance to the Islamic State.

The idea of an American Emirate may seem silly but consider Molenbeek, the neighborhood in Brussels known as the Jihadi capital of Europe, deemed a no-go zone by local authorities, right in the capital of the European Union. You can take a taxi from NATO HQ to a Muslim micro-state linked to most of the major recent Islamic terror attacks in Europe including the latest ISIS attack in Paris.

Molenbeek provides ISIS recruits for its war and a gateway for ISIS attacks in Europe. The media is filled with articles about what ISIS wants, but there is no question that Molenbeek is what ISIS wants.

And it’s only Muslim immigration to Europe that makes an ISIS base like Molenbeek possible.

ISIS has short term and long term needs. In the short term, ISIS needs as many recruits as possible. And it is in the West where traditional Muslim ties of kinship and community are so frayed that the transnationalism of heading out to fight for a Caliphate in someone else’s country is most deeply appealing. ISIS aggressively seeks to recruit Muslims in the West because they have the skills, money and naiveté to be useful to the Islamic State. But in the long term, ISIS needs more Muslim immigration to the West to create a steady supply of recruits, collaborators and eventually Western emirates.

If ISIS is serious about making a bid for Italy, it needs a large Muslim population on the ground. It doesn’t even matter if this population comes from refugees fleeing ISIS. The children of these refugees will still be Sunni Muslims in a foreign land where Algerian, Somali, Syrian and Pakistani Muslims discover that they have more in common than they do with the natives. It is this accidental Western multiculturalism that erases tribal Muslim rivalries and makes the ambition of a single Muslim Caliphate appear plausible.

ISIS does not plan to defeat America with terror plots. But those plots will eventually accumulate into an organized domestic terror organization. An Islamic State in America based around a majority Muslim town or neighborhood with its own leader pledging allegiance to the Caliph of the Islamic State.

An American Molenbeek; and there are already plenty of candidates for that horrifying honor.

Any Muslim plans for expanding into the West depend on Muslim immigration. Whether it’s ISIS or its Muslim Brotherhood ancestor, or any of the other Islamist organizations and networks, they all require manpower. Some of that manpower will be provided by high Muslim birth rates, but it won’t be nearly enough, not for a country the size of America, without a large annual flow of Muslim migrants.

We are told that halting Muslim immigration would only encourage Muslim terrorism. But our open door to Muslim immigration certainly hasn’t stopped terrorism. Instead it has increased it by providing reinforcements to the terrorists. If we can’t stop Muslim terrorism with the population we have now, how are we going to manage it if the Islamic population continues doubling and even tripling?

Even if we defeat ISIS tomorrow, Al Qaeda and other Islamist groups descended from the Muslim Brotherhood will continue pursuing the same goals. And they will rely on the Muslim population in the United States to provide them with money, supplies, cover and an infrastructure for terrorism.

ISIS can’t defeat us with terror attacks. The only hope for an enduring Islamic victory over America is through the rise of domestic groups that pledge allegiance to the Caliphate. ISIS can’t invade America. It has to be invited in. That’s what our immigration policy does.

Trump isn’t a threat to national security. Muslim immigration is.

Islamic terrorists can’t defeat us no matter how many planes they fly into buildings. But they can and will defeat us if they continue landing planes at JFK and disembarking thousands and tens of thousands of settlers who will serve as a base population for their war against America.

Muslim immigration is the Islamic State’s only hope for victory over America.

From: HA/KS
28-Dec-15
Great analysis, Mouse.

From: Anony Mouse
29-Dec-15

ISLAMIC STATE FEMALE BRIGADE MUTILATES, KILLS BREASTFEEDING MOM

Members of the female Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) brigade mutilated and butchered a mom who breastfed her child in Raqqa, Syria, according to reports.

“An [Isis] policewoman took the baby, gave it to another woman, and then killed the mother,” explained Aisha, who managed to escape the grips of ISIS after militants beheaded her husband in front of their child.

The mother attempted to shelter her son under her burqa while she hid under the tree, but she did not succeed for long enough to escape the female al-Khansaa brigade, which attacked her following the alleged exposition. ISIS Twitter accounts reported that the women mutilated her before the execution because she violated “public purity.”

Stories about the brutal brigade first hit the news in 2014. Stories of their abuse continue to surface as civilians escape ISIS-controlled areas.

ISIS established Raqqa as the capital of their self-declared caliphate. The men formed the brigade to terrorize women whom they cannot touch under Sharia Law.

“I once saw a woman at a market and she lifted her niqab [face veil] to inspect the vegetables,” described Salih, 77. “An Isis policewoman saw her and beat her. She was bleeding so badly that she died on the way to hospital. I saw many things, but I would cry if I told you them all.”

In December 2014, the al-Khansaa Brigade unveiled the “biter,” which is a bear trap for women’s breasts. It is responsible for “causing severe pain and wounds [which] may lead women in some cases to be transported to the hospital.” They allegedly used it on a woman only known as Batol:

I was in the market buying a few items when Khansa battalion came and arrested me on the grounds that the niqab [Islamic face covering] which I was wearing does not meet Sharia requirement because it was transparent[.]

[T]hey took me to the “Hesba” headquarters in the city, and escorted me to the torture chamber, then they asked me to choose between a whip or a “biter”[.]

I did not know what a “biter” was and I thought it is a reduced sentence, I was afraid of whipping, so I choose the “biter”, then they brought a sharp object that has a a lot of teeth and held me, placing it on my chest and pressing it strongly, I screamed from pain and I was badly injured. They later took me to the hospital.

I felt then that my femininity has been destroyed completely, we no longer afford to live this way, I was not the only one that was tortured with this instrument, there were a lot of women in the headquarters and their situation was tragic.

Dress code violations are the most common violation in Raqqa, especially if the women have sequins on their burqa.

“They will destroy any handbags that have beads or [fake] diamonds on them,” stated Huda, 19. “Only black is allowed.”

“Women armed with electric shock sticks regulated our lives,” added Aisha. “If a woman is not totally covered they will lash her 80 times on the street.”

Dua, another mother, told The Sunday Times she lived next to a “proud” member of the brigade. The woman once “boasted about the stoning of a young woman caught running away with her lover.” She said many women lived in fear because they never knew if someone would lie about them for revenge. Adiba said that happened to Hadija al Hussain, a mother of seven.

“She was innocent, but they accused her of prostitution,” she said. “They started to stone her, then took a huge brick and hit her on the head.”

Foreign women make up the majority of the vicious brigade. In August 2014, The International Business Times reported the majority of the women in the group are of Chechen descent, but women from Afghanistan and Yemen have also joined. There are allegedly over 50 women in the gang in Raqqa. These women “are wives of immigrants in Syria, of Tunisian, Moroccan, French and British nationalities.” British women Glaswegian Aqsa Mahmood, 20, and Khadijah Dare, 22, are among the women in the brigade.

A woman known as “Khadija,” unknown if it is the same woman listed above, defected to Turkey and told CNN about her time in the brigade. At first, the idea of the brigade made her happy, but witnessing executions and arranged marriages soured her vision. The man in charge of the marriages was “one of the worst people” she knew. She also said that “the foreign fighters are very brutal with women, even the ones they marry. There were cases where the wife had to be taken to the emergency ward because of the sexual violence.”

From: Anony Mouse
29-Dec-15
Being a mooselim means that any belief or action can be excused with a fatwah from a queer-on-ic religious scholar, purportedly based upon the queer-on, hadith or opinion pulled out of mohhamad's rectum.

Exclusive - Islamic State ruling aims to settle who can have sex with female slaves

Islamic State theologians have issued an extremely detailed ruling on when "owners" of women enslaved by the extremist group can have sex with them, in an apparent bid to curb what they called violations in the treatment of captured females.

The ruling or fatwa has the force of law and appears to go beyond the Islamic State's previous known utterances on the subject, a leading Islamic State scholar said. It sheds new light on how the group is trying to reinterpret centuries-old teachings to justify the sexual slavery of women in the swaths of Syria and Iraq it controls.

To read the fatwa click here: here

The fatwa was among a huge trove of documents captured by U.S. Special Operations Forces during a raid targeting a top Islamic State official in Syria in May. Reuters has reviewed some of the documents, which have not been previously published.

Among the religious rulings are bans on a father and son having sex with the same female slave; and the owner of a mother and daughter having sex with both. Joint owners of a female captive are similarly enjoined from intercourse because she is viewed as "part of a joint ownership."

The United Nations and human rights groups have accused the Islamic State of the systematic abduction and rape of thousands of women and girls as young as 12, especially members of the Yazidi minority in northern Iraq. Many have been given to fighters as a reward or sold as sex slaves.

Far from trying to conceal the practice, Islamic State has boasted about it and established a department of "war spoils" to manage slavery. Reuters reported on the existence of the department on Monday.

In an April report, Human Rights Watch interviewed 20 female escapees who recounted how Islamic State fighters separated young women and girls from men and boys and older women. They were moved "in an organized and methodical fashion to various places in Iraq and Syria." They were then sold or given as gifts and repeatedly raped or subjected to sexual violence.

DOS AND DON'TS

Fatwa No. 64, dated Jan. 29, 2015, and issued by Islamic State's Committee of Research and Fatwas, appears to codify sexual relations between IS fighters and their female captives for the first time, going further than a pamphlet issued by the group in 2014 on how to treat slaves.

The fatwa starts with a question: "Some of the brothers have committed violations in the matter of the treatment of the female slaves. These violations are not permitted by Sharia law because these rules have not been dealt with in ages. Are there any warnings pertaining to this matter?"

It then lists 15 injunctions, which in some instances go into explicit detail. For example:

"If the owner of a female captive, who has a daughter suitable for intercourse, has sexual relations with the latter, he is not permitted to have intercourse with her mother and she is permanently off limits to him. Should he have intercourse with her mother then he is not permitted to have intercourse with her daughter and she is to be off limits to him."

Islamic State's sexual exploitation of female captives has been well documented, but a leading IS expert at Princeton University, Cole Bunzel, who has reviewed many of the group's writings, said the fatwa went beyond what has previously been published by the militants on how to treat female slaves.

"It reveals the actual concerns of IS slave owners," he said in an email.

Still, he cautioned that not "everything dealt with in the fatwa is indicative of a relevant violation. It doesn't mean father and son were necessarily sharing a girl. They're at least being 'warned' not to. But I bet some of these violations were being committed."

The fatwa also instructs owners of female slaves to "show compassion towards her, be kind to her, not humiliate her, and not assign her work she is unable to perform." An owner should also not sell her to an individual whom he knows will mistreat her.

Professor Abdel Fattah Alawari, dean of Islamic Theology at Al-Azhar University, a 1,000-year-old Egyptian center for Islamic learning, said Islamic State "has nothing to do with Islam" and was deliberately misreading centuries-old verses and sayings that were originally designed to end, rather than encourage, slavery.

"Islam preaches freedom to slaves, not slavery. Slavery was the status quo when Islam came around," he said. "Judaism, Christianity, Greek, Roman, and Persian civilizations all practiced it and took the females of their enemies as sex slaves. So Islam found this abhorrent practice and worked to gradually remove it.”

In September 2014 more than 120 Islamic scholars from around the world issued an open letter to IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi refuting the group's religious arguments to justify many of its actions. The scholars noted that the "reintroduction of slavery is forbidden in Islam."

Question: why haven't those same scholars send a missive to Saudi Arabia and other mooselim countries that have practiced forms of slavery for ages? Slavery and slave trade are an integral part of Islam.

From: Sixby
29-Dec-15
I heard today on the Mark Levin show that ISIS has been harvesting organs from captives...while they're still alive....

Sounds just like Planned Parenthood which our fine bunch of elected officials just funded.

As terrible as these things are we cannot point fingers until we clean up our own mess.

God bless, Steve

From: Anony Mouse
30-Dec-15
Islamic State (ISIS) plans to massacre thousands of civilians in public places in multiple cities in 2016 as it seeks to draw the West into an epic “final battle”

The Islamic terror group will activate hundreds of sleeper cells in “dozens of countries” in an unprecedented bid to destabilize Western governments and spark a huge military confrontation with the West and Arab nations in the Middle East.

UK Express The shock claim, from one of the world’s leading authorities on the death cult, comes amid fears of a New Year’s Eve terror plot in London and other major world cities. Islamic State has carried out more than 50 attacks in 18 countries that have killed 1,100 people and injured 1,700 since it declared its caliphate in 2014.

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From: Woods Walker
30-Dec-15
Aw c'mon. Our very own Sh*t Stain says they're a "JV" team, and that they're "contained.

We've got nothing to worry about.

From: Anony Mouse
06-Jan-16
1. Mooselims do not assimilate into western culture. They demand (via numerous forms)that secular societies bow down to their "religious" dictates.

2. Europe is now demonstrating what will be common occurrence in this country as their numbers increase. The only difference is that in many areas of the country, they will face the Second Amendment.

(Wonder why President WeepySobSob (with the supporting praise of his proregressive followers) has issued his latest dictates to attempt to weaken the 2A. Perhaps, to provide greater protection from the feral Islamic importees?

What Does the Word 'Muslim' Mean? By Clare M. Lopez

The entire debate about what it means to be "Muslim" and shariah-compliant might be solved with a quick lesson in Arabic grammar.

This is because the word "Muslim" contains in its Arabic meaning its own definition.

You see, the word "Muslim" in Arabic has two parts: the "Mu" prefix and the triliteral root that forms the word "Islam." That root word, "Islam," is a verbal noun that means "submission." When an "Mu" prefix is attached to such a root in Arabic, the resulting noun means "a person who does the thing that root word denotes."

Therefore, with "Islam" being a verbal noun meaning submission, "Muslim" therefore means "one who submits." Submits to what? To Allah's will, which is shariah. Islamic Law. Thus, anyone who presents as a Muslim is by definition shariah-adherent, because that's what the word itself actually means. If someone claims to be a Muslim, or converts to Islam, or was born into Islam but does not apostatize or separate from it, then it is reasonable to conclude that such a person is shariah-compliant-at a minimum, tacitly-unless and until told otherwise. And the converse must also be true: one who does not submit to shariah, one who does not adhere to shariah, does not meet the linguistic definition of "Muslim."

As for "shariah," which is defined and understood by the Islamic scholars to be an all-encompassing, legal-military doctrinal system that features some religious beliefs, it is binding for Muslims, even as the word "Muslim" dictates. Although shariah includes a multitude of obligations, among which many are innocuous (to believe in the oneness of Allah; to pray five times per day; to avoid eating pork, etc.), jihad as warfare to spread Islam is also a core, compelling obligation. All who are Muslim by birth or conversion are obligated to actively support the establishment of a universal governmental system (Caliphate/Imamate) based on shariah and the replacement by means of jihad of any political system not governed by shariah.

It is this commandment to Islamic supremacism that is most problematic for non-Muslims and responsible for much of the debate about what exactly "being Muslim" means. But if we realize that the answer lies in the etymology of the Arabic word "Muslim" itself, then it will be understood that unless and until that identity as "one who submits" is abjured by the individual in question, the person is accorded full credit for living a shariah-adherent life.

Clare M. Lopez is the Vice President for Research & Analysis at the Center for Security Policy. Read more at Family Security Matters.

Aloha Snackbar and Share Urea.(camel)

From: Anony Mouse
07-Jan-16
Islam is an excuse for feral mooselim uncivilized behaviour.

There is no place for the practice of it in the civilized world...and certainly NOT in this country. There are too many politicians and persons of media that promote the existence of the fabled "moderate mooselim". If ISIS, AQ and other factions of Islam were the exception and not the rule, there would be world wide condemnation by the "moderates".

Crickets.

New Video Surfaces Of Afghan Woman Being Barbarically Lynched After She’s Falsely Accused Of Burning The Koran…

WARNING: VID IS GRAPHIC.

Via CNS News:

As the police stood by and watched, a 27-year-old Muslim woman was brutally murdered by a mob in Kabul, Afghanistan after she was falsely accused of burning a Quran by an Islamic cleric.

The young Muslim woman, Farkhunda Malikzada, was viciously beaten, stoned, deliberately run over by a car, thrown into a dry river bed, crushed with larger stones, and then set on fire.

…Although the murder of Farkhunda occurred in March 2015, the New York Times in recent months was able to collect cell-phone videos and pictures of the lynching from sources in Afghanistan and online, and compiled a lengthy video of the horrific crime, which it published at nytimes.com on Dec. 26, 2015.

File this under "coming to America"...we saw what the feral mooselim male did in many German cities New Years Eve.

From: Anony Mouse
08-Jan-16
From: Anony Mouse
12-Jan-16
With Obama's importation of unscreened mooselims and the fact that he is impeding the investigation of over 100 in the US who have ties to terrorism, the following is important.

“Pretend to be Christian”: ISIS handbook tells Muslims to lose beard, shun mosque and wear cross before killing"

ISIS has issued a handbook for Muslims in the West. The gist of the instruction booklet is the necessity to blend in with the Western way of life and to avoid “looking like a Muslim” — pretend to be Christian — so as to stay below the radar of the security services. This is important. It is key to understanding the enemy and their tactics.

The media and the Democrats are deliberately misleading the public. You must educate yourself and those around you. Share this article on Facebook, Twitter, email. Build our army. The Islamic State is telling Muslims who plan to go operational not to go to mosque, to shave their beards to act like Christians. And after these monstrous acts of Islamic savagery, the media crows, “he stopped going to mosque weeks ago.” The media all but sharpens the machetes of the jihadis.

We see in many of these acts of jihad, whether it’s San Bernardino or Garland, Texas, or the Muslim bombers in Boston, that the jihadis are quite devout and go to mosque regularly. Then, suddenly, they allegedly stop. It’s hard to know, because the mosque frequently lies to cover for their warriors. But know that it is not happenstance. It is a war plan to cause great death and destruction in the cause of Allah.

“Pretend to be Christians: ISIS urges UK jihadis to cut beards, shun mosques & wear crosses,” By Leda Reynolds, Express, January 11, 2016 (thanks to Christian):

WOULD-BE jihadis eager to carry out a Paris-style attack in the UK have been handed a chilling step-by-step guide by Islamic State (ISIS) thugs.

The booklet, called Safety and Security Guidelines for Lone Wolf Mujahideen, offers a chilling insight into the levels of preparation expected of those wishing to cause carnage in Europe.

The 58-page terror manual, which has burning western-style buildings on the front cover, gushes about the importance of surprise when launching an attack to cause maximum impact.It urges home-grown terrorists to carry out attacks as they are less likely to be noticed.

It also explains how nightclubs, full of loud music and drunk people, are the perfect place to discuss terror plans without being recorded or snooped on.The main thrust of the instruction booklet is the necessity to blend in with the western way of life and to avoid ‘looking like a Muslim’ so as to stay below the radar of the security services.

It has even been translated into English for those in the West who don’t speak Arabic.The introduction says: “No doubt that today, at the era of the lone wolves, brothers in the West need to know some important things about safety in order to ensure success in their operations.

“We thought a lot of non-Arabic speaking brothers would find it interesting and may apply it in their blessed operations.”Readers are urged to wear a Christian cross, splash on the aftershave, cut off beards and even shun prayer meetings and mosques to avoid detection.

There is even advice about what jewellery to wear and on which hand to wear a watch.Potential terrorists are told: “If you can avoid having a beard, wearing qamis, using miswak and having a booklet of dhikr with you, it’s better.“It is permissible for you to wear a necklace showing a Christian cross.“As you know, Christians – or even atheist Westerners with Christian background – wear crosses on their necklaces.“But don’t wear a cross necklace if you have a Muslim name on your passport, as that may look strange.

The 58-page terror manual

“If you want to use perfume, don’t use the oily, non-alcoholic perfume that Muslims use, instead use generic alcoholic perfume as everyone does, and if you are a man, use perfume for men (eau de goat--jack).“If you are wearing a watch, don’t wear it on your right hand, as this is a sign that you are religious.“If you have an engagement ring or something like that, it’s better to wear one in gold or better yet, don’t wear any ring at all.“A silver ring could tell you are religious, as Islam forbids wearing gold rings for men. “It also offers advice on grooming habits.

An extract from the terror manual

It says: “Your beard should be shaved off at least two weeks before yourtravel so the skin under your beard can be exposed to the sun.”If you don’t do that the fact that you removed your beard would be too easy to notice.“If you can get a haircut in a professional hairdresser, try to do so.”Eager jihadis are also instructed to avoid traditional Muslim greetings.

ISIS thugs prepare for battle

They are told: “No need to be using too much of the usual sentences that religious brothers use, like ‘salam alaykum’, ‘barakallah feek’ or ‘jazakallah khayr’ and so on.And tips on where to plot a terror act are also given.The author says: “A nightclub, because of the loud music, the drunk people and the crowd, could actually be a good location to secretly discuss the details of an operation.”The booklet also highlights where to stash fake passports and even mocks the UK’s treatment of those with false identities.

One of the brothers was traveling on a fake Portuguese passport from the UK to Canada. “The brother had political refugee status in Britain so nothing serious happened to him.“In the case of lone wolves, you are protected because you have a western passport.”The author also mocks the fake terror attacks the police use as training exercises.He says: “They teach us things we have never thought of and we can see their weaknesses.”

Chillingly, the guide also advises how to stake out government buildings (CEZ's--jack) before launching an attack to ensure the highest number of casualties and the best way to stalk “an army general or public figure” for an assassination.The ISIS instructor says: “This is why we (prefer) people already from the West instead of sending someone from here.“Because in the West, you already know the environment, how people talk and behave.”

The booklet is being widely shared on social media, and while it is not known if those responsible for the Paris massacre had access to it, there were reports following the November 13 attrocity that the ringleaders, Abdelhamid Abaaoud and Salah Abdeslam, had begun wearing western style dress, shunning mosques and living a party lifestyle.A total of 130 people were murdered and around 300 injured in suicide and gun attacks at the Bataclan nightclub, Stade de France and at a series of bars and restaurants in the French capital.

From: Anony Mouse
12-Jan-16

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Coming (came?) to the US, courtesy of the mooselim enablers: taharrush gamea

From: Anony Mouse
12-Jan-16
From: Shuteye
12-Jan-16
This is coming to the USA and if we don't elect a strong leader it will be the end of America as we know it. We are already on a strong downhill trend.

From: Anony Mouse
20-Jan-16
Time for the west to play "tit-for-tat" and destroy Islamic holy sites every time they demolish or raze parts of Christian heritage.

Only On AP: Oldest Christian monastery in Iraq is razed

IRBIL, Iraq (AP) — The oldest Christian monastery in Iraq has been reduced to a field of rubble, yet another victim of the Islamic State group's relentless destruction of ancient cultural sites.

For 1,400 years the compound survived assaults by nature and man, standing as a place of worship recently for U.S. troops. In earlier centuries, generations of monks tucked candles in the niches and prayed in the cool chapel. The Greek letters chi and rho, representing the first two letters of Christ's name, were carved near the entrance.

Now satellite photos obtained exclusively by The Associated Press confirm the worst fears of church authorities and preservationists — St. Elijah's Monastery of Mosul has been completely wiped out.

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From: Woods Walker
20-Jan-16

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Woods Walker's embedded Photo
What are we waiting for?

From: Anony Mouse
22-Jan-16

From: Anony Mouse
02-Feb-16
Thank you, Obama and all the open border/welcome Islamists world wide.

From: Anony Mouse
17-Feb-16
5 Shameful True Stories Muslims Desperately Don’t Want You To Know About Their Prophet Muhammad ?

By Christopher J. Green

In the Islamic religion, Muhammad is revered as God’s final prophet and the ideal man, the perfect example for all time. But just how perfect is Muhammad’s example Muslim males especially must strive to emulate? Here’s five little-known shocking stories about Islam’s ideal man Muslims desperately don’t want you to be aware of.

1. Muhammad adopted Zayd, the freed slave of his first wife Khadijah, as his son. Zayd married a very beautiful woman called Zaynab bint Jash. One day, Muhammad went to the home of the couple and he happened to catch sight of a naked Zaynab. He made lustful comments about her and she duly told her husband what had happened.

On hearing what Muhammad had said about his wife, Zayd told Muhammad that if he wanted to marry Zaynab then he would divorce her. Initially, Muhammad told him to stay with his wife, but Zayd divorced her and Muhammad then married her claiming it was the will of Allah.

Allah’s somewhat convenient and embarrassing will is revealed in Chapter 33, verse 37 of the Quran. Even Muhammad’s favourite wife Aisha, whom he married when she was just six years of age, voiced her suspicions saying: “Truly Allah seems to be very quick in fulfilling your prayers.”

There’s a tragic legacy of Muhammad’s lust for his son’s wife. In an attempt to justify Muhammad’s marriage to his daughter-in-law, Allah subsequently forbade adoption in Quran verses 33.4 and 33.5. (Note the Quran is not organized chronologically.) To this day, thousands of children in the Islamic world remain orphans all because of the “perfect example” of the lustful Muhammad.

2. Speaking of Muhammad’s favourite wife Aisha leads us to another event in Muhammad’s life which continues to have tragic consequences. Aisha was accused of cheating on Muhammad by three witnesses. Upon hearing their accounts, Muhammad refused to believe them and made a ruling requiring four witnesses to prove fornication.

Sex for unmarried women is forbidden in Islam. If a woman is raped and the rapist doesn’t confess to the crime, four trustworthy male witnesses are required to prove that the woman was actually raped. Many rape victims in the Islamic world have been criminalized because of Muhammad’s ruling with around 80% of women in Pakistani jails being victims of rape.

3. The next story comes from one of the most authoritative accounts of Muhammad’s life, the hadith of Sahih Muslim. A pregnant woman confessed to Muhammad that she had committed adultery. Muhammad told her to have the child then return to him. When she returned, he commanded that she be stoned to death for her fornication. You can read the full unpleasant story in Sahih Muslim book 17, number 4206 here.

4. Salah, praying five times a day, is a pillar of Islam and an obligation on all Muslims. Missing prayer is a serious transgression in Islam and the reason is because of the following event in Muhammad’s life. He acknowledged the hardest prayers for Muslims are the first pre-dawn prayer and the final evening prayer. He instructed the cleric who calls Muslims to prayer, the Mu’adh-dhin, to give the second call to prayers, the Iqama. He commanded a man to lead the prayer and once the prayer was over, Muhammad demanded that the homes of those who missed the prayer be burned down with the occupants being burned alive. Sahih Bukhari is regarded by Muslims as THE most authoritative hadith and this wicked deed is recorded in volume 1, book 11, number 626.

5. Perhaps one of the most shocking stories of Muhammad’s life concerns the fate of the peaceful Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis. Muhammad had signed a treaty to break peace between the farmers and the Muslims. He had also agreed not to be recognized as a prophet in the treaty, much to the chagrin of his followers. To regain their respect, Muhammad decided to attack the farmers who were no match for his army and they soon surrendered. The “ideal man, the perfect example for all time” told the farmers they would only be permitted to continue living on the Oasis if they handed over their wealth.

Convinced the Jews were holding out, Muhammad tortured their leader, Kinana. Despite inflicting severe punishments on Kinana, including pouring burning oil onto his chest, Muhammad was unable to obtain any details of withheld wealth, so he had Kinana beheaded. He then ordered his men to bring to him Kinana’s beautiful 17 year old wife, Safiya bint Huyay. He told her that if she embraced Islam and married him, he would spare her life. He married her and consummated the marriage that very night.

Safiya’s fate is described in Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, book 59, numbers 512 and 513.

Muslims will try to deceive unbelievers by portraying their prophet as a man of peace. Indeed, when they say his name, they will usually follow it by saying “peace be upon him.” But as these five disturbing events show, Muhammad was not a peaceful man and this begs the question: How can anyone claim Islam is a religion of peace when the perfect example of its prophet is one of violence, deceit, unbridled lust and savage cruelty?

From: Stalker
17-Feb-16
Islam is the cancer of this planet and it is time for some radiation therapy!

From: BIGHORN
17-Feb-16
Carpet bomb all of them!

From: HA/KS
18-Feb-16

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: Anony Mouse
18-Feb-16
Had originally thought that I would create this thread for "educational" type posts, but some graphics are just too good not to share.

Like this one:

From now on I will not use the terms "muslim" or "moose-lim", but the preferred terminology: koranderthals.

From: itshot
18-Feb-16
mouse, interesting viewpoint

more interesting, the correlation between those that destroy and those that demand tolerance of the destroyers

yikes

From: Anony Mouse
19-Feb-16

Some might look at the idea as simply baiting...

From: Anony Mouse
21-Feb-16
In humor, there is always a kernel of truth. Google Islam and incest.

From IOTWReport:

TV Commercial:

“All our lives growing up we thought we were Sunni islamic savages! We killed Jews, beat our women, beheaded anyone who wouldn’t submit. Then we sent away to Incestry.com for our DNA test. Turns out, we’re not Sunni islamic savages. We’re Shiite islamic savages! So we traded in our…well…OK, basically we still kill Jews, beat our women and behead anyone who won’t submit. But, we’re Shiite islamic savages!” -Irony Curtain

From: Anony Mouse
21-Feb-16

Anony Mouse's Link
And on a more serious vein...worth reading.

From: Anony Mouse
24-Feb-16
H/T: IOTWReport

Adunis Asbar, known as the greatest living Arabic-language poet, stated recently in an interview that Islam can’t be modernized because to do so would lose the original meaning of the religion.

As a Muslim himself, Asdunis seems to think it’s contributes nothing to the betterment of mankind.

“It produces no thinking, no art, noscience, no vision that could change the world.”

'Greatest Arabic Poet' Says Islam 'Can't Be Modernized'

He also noted that Islam does not contribute intellectually or artistically to the world.

he late author Maya Angelou once said, "when someone shows you who they are believe them, the first time. "

Islamists have shown the world time and again who they are and what they stand for yet the world refuses to believe them. And even when moderate Muslims -- people who were born and raised in Islamic societies -- try to educate the West about what Islam truly stands for, the West still refuses to believe them, too.

Such is the case with the preeminent Arabic-language poet, Adunis Asbar. The poet, better known as "Adonis," is now being vehemently criticized for stating that Islam cannot be modernized. He reasons that unless there becomes a "separation of church and state" within Islamic society, basic human rights and democracy will never come to fruition. He also astutely noted that Islam "does not contribute to intellectual life" nor does it produce art, science and world-changing vision.

Below is an excerpt from a February 19 article by Chris Tomlinson that talks about Adonis' remarks. The piece was shared on the blog, TundraTabloids, which tracks the Islamization of Scandinavia and greater Europe:

Adunis Asbar, known by his pen name Adonis, is a Syrian-born writer often considered one of the greatest living poets of the Arabic language. He has come under criticism for comments he made recently about Islam before receiving the Erich Maria Remarque Peace Prize, named after the famous pacifist and author of the classic World War One novel ‘All Quiet on the Western Front’.

In an interview with Die Welt he talked about one of the most pressing issues in Germany since the migrant crisis began, the idea of being able to integrate migrants from predominately Muslim countries into European societies.

Being raised a Muslim himself and having one of the greatest understandings of the language of the Quran, Adonis said: “You can not reform a religion. If they are reformed, [the original meaning] is separated from it. Therefore, modern Muslims and a modern Islam is already impossible. If there is no separation between religion and state, there will be no democracy especially without equality for women. Then we will keep a theocratic system. So it will end.”

Laying down a heavy critique of the Islamic world, he added: “Arabs have no more creative force. Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”

Adonis adds that Islam is based on "a totalitarian system" where "religion dictates everything: How to run, how to go to the toilet, who one has to love."

Of course the poet is correct, but the West doesn't want to admit that because it refuses to believe and instead lives by the motto: "Who are we to judge?"

From: Anony Mouse
24-Feb-16

Anony Mouse's Link
Even in Japan, which has strict laws about immigration and very few koranderthals, has problems with the religion of pedophilia and goat lust.

From: Woods Walker
24-Feb-16

From: Woods Walker
26-Feb-16
Half horse? It must have been the horse's ass.

From: Anony Mouse
27-Feb-16

From: Anony Mouse
31-Mar-16
H/T: IOTWReport

This… This is Fantastic

by BFH • March 31, 2016 • 15 Comments

Well done. Perfect words, perfect phrasing with unforced cadence. Top notch. Powerful.

From: Two Feathers
31-Mar-16
Yes. I hope this link doesn't disappear like some others you posted.

Mouse you asked at the beginning of this to contribute if we had something to contribute. I do. It is Usama Dakdok. I listen to him on the internet. He teaches his listeners what the Koran teaches. "The Truth about Islam"

The link is to the Tuesday Crosstalk program he was on. It's titled "Will America Wake Up to Islamic Terrorism". Great program.

Last week in church we were looking at Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia. That's were this thread started.

Great post on the recording.

From: Two Feathers
31-Mar-16

Two Feathers's Link
Opps - here's the link!

From: Anony Mouse
31-Mar-16
Thanks, Tom. Good link.

Far too many politicians (both parties) are willing to excuse and ignore what Islam is and how it operates. The west should NOT treat it as a religion as it is really a hybrid political system that cannot abide with our culture or freedoms. Note how like Republicans "compromise"with the Democrats, compromise with Islam is ONE way...their way.

The Religion of Peace

From: Anony Mouse
22-Apr-16

From: Anony Mouse
22-Apr-16

Video: Creeping Sharia: The ISLAMIZATION of the WEST

From: Two Feathers
22-Apr-16
Mouse - you and I are on the same sheet of music in regards to Islam. Great links.

From: Anony Mouse
12-Jun-16
Considering we are being forced to appreciate a pedophile pseudoprophet and the days of the koranderthal celebration of ramadamadingdong, where mosque officials have called for the killing of gays, Christians, and any other form of life that "they" feel is an insult the the great camel humper (pbh), time to resurrect this thread ;o)

" 7 Questions for Those Who Claim Islam is "Just Another Religion"

In defense of Donald Trump's suggestion that Muslim immigration be restricted until we better understand the nature of the Jihadist terror threat, the following is offered up by our long-suffering Summer Intern @BiffSpackle:

(see link)

From: Anony Mouse
16-Jun-16
Islam's Violence is Rooted in Instability

Islamic violence is nearly impossible to deny. But why is Islam violent? The usual answer is to point to Koranic verses calling for the conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims. That certainly covers the theological basis for Islamic violence. But it fails to explain why Muslims continue to practice it. Even against each other. Violence has become the defining form of Islamic exceptionalism.

Optimists speak of reforming Islam. But such reforms had over a thousand years in which to take place.

Islam is an ideology. Its violence is a strategy. That strategy fit the needs of Mohammed. Mohammed chose to use force to spread his ideology. He needed to recruit fighters so he preached the inferiority of non-Muslims, the obligation for Muslims to conquer non-Muslims and the right of his fighters to seize the property and wives of non-Muslims as incentive for them to join his fight. Furthermore he even promised them that if they should fall in battle, they would receive loot and women in paradise.

The strategy was barbarous, but quite effective. Mohammed had created a new super-tribe in a tribal society. The tribe of Islam united different groups in a mission of conquest. The Islamic religion allowed the varying clans to be more effective and ambitious than their victims. Within a surprisingly short amount of time the chain of conquests made Islam into a world religion. The most effective Islamic conquerors could not only claim vast territories, carving up civilization into fiefdoms, but they could prepare their sons and grandsons to continue the chain of conquests.

Islam made the standard tactics of tribal warfare far more effective. Its alliance was harder to fragment and its fighters were not afraid of death. But at the same time Islam remained fundamentally tribal. It made tribal banditry more effective, but didn’t change the civilization. It codified the tribal suspicion of outsiders and women into a religious doctrine. That still drives Islamic violence against non-Muslims and women today.

And yet Islam could have reformed. All it had to do was choose a different civilizational strategy.

The current clash of civilizations is between cooperative societies and hierarchal tribal societies. Western countries are cooperative societies. They succeed by bringing together a variety of peoples into cooperative organizations. These organizations negotiate and exchange everything from goods to mutual defense. Primitive versions of such organizations existed in Mohammed’s time. They have also existed within Islamic societies, but they have been inhibited by the tribal instability of Islamic civilizations. Cooperative societies emphasize internal conscience over external posturing. Religion is a matter of personal morality, rather than collective conquest. Economic resources are developed by harnessing new ideas and techniques to provide wider benefits to the society.

Islamic tribal societies are governed by extended family groups and other hierarchies that, like Islam, serve a similar role. While such societies can be locally stable, albeit backward, expanding them is difficult because their only point of unity comes through conflict with outsiders. Without external conflicts with non-Muslims, tribal societies degenerate into internal tribal conflicts.

That is what happened in Iraq and Syria, not to mention Yemen and Libya. Most Muslim countries are delicately balanced on the edge of a precipice and they can be very easily tipped into horrifying violence between different groups if their fragile internal order breaks down and there are no outside enemies.

The Muslim expansion became unsustainable once the external spread of conquest limited the access of Muslim armies to non-Muslim victims. Islamic unity did not survive Mohammed for very long. Stability came through feudal societies which were slow, backward and unwieldy, but prevented conflict.

Ultimately the only stable Muslim society is a slave state. Modern dictatorships, which strive to imitate modern countries by building up professional elites of doctors, engineers, lawyers and generals, are eventually undone by them. It’s the genuinely backward kingdoms that rely on oil wealth and slave labor which best weathered the changes of the past generations and maintained their ruling privileges.

And here we come to the fundamental crisis of Islamic violence.

Islamic civilization is fundamentally unstable and unsustainable. Contact with the modern world destabilized it setting off a series of chain reactions. Islamic civilization, particularly in the Middle East, could not make the transition to modernity. Those countries that had oil could buy their way out of the problem with generous subsidies at home while purchasing influence abroad. The Saudis made their own people rich while controlling the West. They financed wars without needing generals by funding terrorists. They kept a tribal society going by hiring foreign professionals to do most of the technical work.

Most Muslim countries however couldn’t buy that type of immunity from modernity. And even the Saudis had only bought a temporary immunity that is running down along with oil prices. The most Islamic societies had followed the old Mohammedan practice of exhausting the land. But where were they going to move on to?

The mass migration to Europe is part of the answer. While Europeans are shocked at the sight of millions of people just picking up and walking away, the Middle East still has deep nomadic roots. Most Muslim countries are political and historical fictions. Family groups matter far more than national identities.

Outside Israel, agriculture in the Middle East is sparse. The strong attachment to the land that is found among Israelis or Europeans is absent. Feudalism associates working the land with inferiority and feudalism is a more recent memory among Muslims than among most Europeans. Success means expanding into someone else’s land and living off the spoils rather than staying and working your own.

Western cooperative societies eagerly welcome Muslim migrants because they expect them to cooperate and contribute. But that is not happening. Muslim societies are hierarchal, not cooperative. The new arrivals expect to fit into a hierarchy. If they don’t encounter a strict hierarchy, they seek to “conquer” by establishing their hierarchy with the supremacism of the Koran as their guide.

Western societies seek to settle permanently. They plan for the long term. Nomadic tribals burn through resources, viewing cities and institutions as assets to strip, raid and dispose of, before moving on. The Islamic migration is not a new phenomenon and Europe is not meant to be its stopping point.

This is a variation of Mohammed’s old strategy. While some Islamic groups, such as ISIS and Al Qaeda, stay behind to battle for the dying lands of the Middle East to establish their own perfect society, large numbers of Muslims are choosing to move on to fresher pastures. This cycle will only repeat itself.

This strategy is why Islam continues to be violent. It’s why exporting democracy is useless.

Democracy works in cooperative societies. It can only work within tribal societies as a democracy of groups. And it requires that these groups prefer cooperation to conflict as a civilizational strategy.

Islam favors conflict over cooperation. In the absence of outside enemies, its doctrine allows its quarreling groups to name each other as infidels, heretics and enemies. To reform Islam, Muslims would have to make the civilizational transition to a cooperative strategy. They would have to fundamentally change their values, their priorities and how their societies function.

And there is no sign of that happening.

Islamic civilization becomes unstable once it expands beyond its tribal limits. Its only coping strategy for that instability is violence, whether directed externally at non-Muslims or internally at other Muslims. Its economic development tools are limited and make supporting a modern society very difficult because they emphasize maintaining internal hierarchal stability over innovation and progress.

Islam is violent because it’s unstable. Its only tool is violence. Its societies exhaust their limited resources and then invade their neighbors. They repeat the same strategy until they are stopped. Then the exhausted Islamic civilization becomes a staid slave society that is stable, but backward. If that society is disturbed, then the egg cracks and the whole horrible process of war, invasion and exhaustion begins again. That is what we are experiencing right now. And there is no easy answer to this problem.

We can inhibit the expansion of Islamic migration. Or it will wash over our societies and destroy them

From: HA/KS
17-Jun-16
For a moral and religious (Christian implied) society - unsuitable for all others.

From: Anony Mouse
08-Sep-16
(Note: internal links within article)

The Greatest Murder Machine in History

By Mike Konrad

When one thinks of mass murder, Hitler comes to mind. If not Hitler, then Tojo, Stalin, or Mao. Credit is given to the 20th-century totalitarians as the worst species of tyranny to have ever arisen. However, the alarming truth is that Islam has killed more than any of these, and may surpass all of them combined in numbers and cruelty.

The enormity of the slaughters of the "religion of peace" are so far beyond comprehension that even honest historians overlook the scale. When one looks beyond our myopic focus, Islam is the greatest killing machine in the history of mankind, bar none.

The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. -- Will Durant, as quoted on Daniel Pipes site.

Conservative estimates place the number at 80 million dead Indians.

According to some calculations, the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate). -- Koenrad Elst as quoted on Daniel Pipes site

80 Million?! The conquistadors' crimes pale into insignificance at that number. No wonder Hitler admired Islam as a fighting religion. He stood in awe of Islam, whose butchery even he did not surpass.

Over 110 Million Blacks were killed by Islam.

... a minumum of 28 Million African were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. Since, at least, 80 percent of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave market, it is believed that the death toll from 1400 years of Arab and Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been as high as 112 Millions. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the trans-Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 Million people. -- John Allembillah Azumah, author of The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa: A Quest for Inter-religious Dialogue

Add just those two numbers alone together, and Islam has surpassed the victims of 20th-century totalitarianism. However, it does not end there. Add the millions who died at the hand of Muslims in the Sudan in our lifetime.

Much of Islamic slavery was sexual in nature, with a preference for women. Those men who were captured were castrated. The mulatto children of the women were often killed, which explains why Islam was not demographically shifted towards the black race, unlike slaves in the West, who bore children to breed a mestizo class. Add in those dead children; and we arrive at well over 200 million.

Remember that in the 7th century, North Africa was almost totally Christian. What happened to them?

By the year 750, a hundred years after the conquest of Jerusalem, at least 50 percent of the world's Christians found themselves under Muslim hegemony… Today there is no indigenous Christianity in the region [of Northwest Africa], no communities of Christians whose history can be traced to antiquity.-- "Christianity Face to Face with Islam," CERC

What happened to those Christian millions? Some converted. The rest? Lost to history.

We know that over 1 million Europeans were enslaved by Barbary Pirates. How many died is anybody's guess.

...for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000 - BBC

In the Middle Ages…

…many slaves were passed through Armenia and were castrated there to fill the Muslim demand for eunuchs. -- Slavery in Early Medieval Europe.

The same practice ran through Islamic Spain. North Europeans captured from raids up to Iceland, or purchased, were butchered in the castratoriums of Iberia. Many died from the operations that ran for centuries.

The number of dead from the Muslim conquest of the Balkans and Southern Italy is unknown, but again the numbers add up, surely into the millions over the centuries. Don't forget the 1.5 million Armenian Christians killed by the Turks during WWI. We do know that over five centuries, vast numbers of Christian boys were kidnapped to become Islamic Janissary mercenaries for the Turks. Add those in, too.

Muslims prized blonde women for their harems; and so enslaved Slavic women were purchased in the bazaars of the Crimean Caliphate. In Muslim Spain, an annual tribute of 100 Visigothic [blonde] women was required from Spain's Cantabrian coast.

For decades, 100 virgins per year were required by the Muslim rulers of Spain from the conquered population. The tribute was only stopped when the Spaniards began fighting back -- Jihad: Islam's 1,300 Year War Against Western Civilisation

Add in the death toll from the Reconquista and the numbers climb higher.

Research has shown that the Dark Ages were not caused by the Goths, who eventually assimilated and Christianized:

…the real destroyers of classical civilization were the Muslims. It was the Arab Invasions... which broke the unity of the Mediterranean world and turned the Middle Sea -- previously one of the world’s most important trading highways -- into a battleground. It was only after the appearance of Islam... that the cities of the West, which depended upon the Mediterranean trade for their survival, began to die. -- Islam Caused the Dark Ages

Add in those unknown millions who died as a consequence.

How many know the horrors of the conquest of Malaysia? The Buddhists of Thailand and Malaysia were slaughtered en masse.

When attacked and massacred by the Muslims, the Buddhists initially did not make any attempt to escape from their murderers. They accepted death with an air of fatalism and destiny. And hence they are not around today to tell their story. – History of Jihad.org

We may never know the numbers of dead.

After Muslims came to power in the early 15th century, animist hill peoples eventually disappeared due to their enslavement and ‘incorporation’ into the Muslim population of Malaya, Sumatra, Borneo, and Java via raids, tribute and purchase, especially of children. Java was the largest exporter of slaves around 1500. -- Islam Monitor

In the same manner, Islam arrived in the Philippines. Only the appearance of the Spanish stopped a total collapse, and confined Islam to the southern islands.

The coming of the Spanish saved the Philippines from Islam, except for the Southern tip where the population had been converted to Islam.-- History of Jihad.org

Again, the number of dead is unknown; but add them to the total.

The animist Filipinos were eager to ally with the Spanish against Islam. In fact, much of Southeast Asia welcomed the Spanish and Portuguese as preferable to Islam.

...from the 17th century successive Thai kings allied themselves with the seafaring Western powers – the Portuguese and the Dutch and succeeded in staving off the threat of Islam from the Muslim Malays and their Arab overlords.-- History of Jihad.org

A few galleons and muskets were not enough to conquer Asia. Islam had made the Europeans initially appear as liberators; and to a certain extent they were. Who were the real imperialists?

Even today...

...Malaysian Jihadis are plotting to transform multi-ethnic Malaysia into an Islamic Caliphate, and fomenting trouble in Southern Thailand.-- History of Jihad.org

Add this all up. The African victims. The Indian victims. The European victims. Add in the Armenian genocide. Then add in the lesser known, but no doubt quite large number of victims of Eastern Asia. Add in the jihad committed by Muslims against China, which was invaded in 651 AD. Add in the Crimean Khanate predations on the Slavs, especially their women.

Though the numbers are not clear, what is obvious is that Islam is the greatest murder machine in history bar none, possibly exceeding 250 million dead. Possibly one-third to one-half or more of all those killed by war or slavery in history can be traced to Islam; and this is just a cursory examination.

Now consider the over 125 Million women today who have been genitally mutilated for Islamic honor's sake. In spite of what apologists tell you, the practice is almost totally confined to Islamic areas.

New information from Iraqi Kurdistan raises the possibility that the problem is more prevalent in the Middle East than previously believed and that FGM is far more tied to religion than many Western academics and activists admit. – “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

Once thought concentrated in Africa, FGM has now been discovered to be common wherever Islam is found.

There are indications that FGM might be a phenomenon of epidemic proportions in the Arab Middle East. Hosken, for instance, notes that traditionally all women in the Persian Gulf region were mutilated. Arab governments refuse to address the problem. -- "Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?" ME Quarterly

Remember that this has gone on for 1400 years; and was imposed on a population that had been formerly Christian or pagan.

FGM is practiced on large scale in Islamic Indonesia; and is increasing.

...far from scaling down, the problem of FGM in Indonesia has escalated sharply. The mass ceremonies in Bandung have grown bigger and more popular every year. -- Guardian

The horrified British author of that Guardian article is still deluded that Islam does not support FGM, when in fact it is now settled that FGM is a core Islamic practice. Islamic women have been brainwashed to support their own abuse.

Abu Sahlieh further cited Muhammad as saying, "Circumcision is a sunna (tradition) for the men and makruma (honorable deed) for the women." -- “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

What other tyranny does this? Not even the Nazis mutilated their own women!

Unlike the 20th-century totalitarians whose killing fury consumed themselves, reducing their longevity, Islam paces itself. In the end, though slower, Islam has killed and tortured far more than any other creed, religious or secular. Unlike secular tyranny, Islam, by virtue of its polygamy and sexual predations, reproduces itself and increases.

Other tyrannies are furious infections, which burn hot, but are soon overcome. Islam is a slow terminal cancer, which metastasizes, and takes over. It never retreats. Its methods are more insidious, often imperceptible at first, driven by demographics. Like cancer, excision may be the only cure.

So whenever you read about this or that Israeli outrage -- and there may be truth to the complaint -- place the news in context. Look whom the Israelis are fighting against. Islam is like nothing else in history.

From: Anony Mouse
08-Sep-16
From: Anony Mouse
09-Sep-16

From: Anony Mouse
14-Sep-16

Anony Mouse's Link
Islam...where rivers run red...

From: Anony Mouse
08-Oct-16
America’s Enemies Within: Sixty-Two ISIS Attackers And ‘Plotters’ In Just A Year, Immigrants Or Children Of Immigrants

And those are just the ones who have been caught and/or killed. Grandma Hillary wants to bring in half a million more, MSM is still looking for a motive and Obama can’t bring himself to say “Islamic terrorism”.

Via Daily Mail:

The 62 were responsible for 48 attacks or alleged ISIS-inspired activities – from mass stabbings to attempts to send money and munitions to Syria.

The DailyMail.com analysis of public records shows that six ISIS-inspired attackers have died and 54 have been arrested.

The figures also show that 34 of those ISIS attackers and alleged plotters were either immigrants or the children of immigrants.

They included six people who came to the U.S. as refugees from countries including Palestine and Somalia.

The number of people taken in as refugees and then accused of turning against the country which gave them sanctuary could be higher, as it was not possible to ascertain exactly how many of the alleged ISIS attackers or plotters entered America.

In total 64 people have been murdered and at least 121 wounded in the U.S. by ISIS-inspired attackers.

They included the 49 dead and 53 wounded of the Orlando nightclub attacks, as well as the 14 killed and 22 hurt by the San Bernardino shooters.

The analysis shows that 13 people linked to ISIS by the federal authorities were the children of immigrants from countries including Palestine and Pakistan.

And at least 13 were Americans who converted to Islam and took up its most extreme form.

They include a former cheerleader and the son of a senior Boston police officer, as well as an immigrant who was not deported after serving a four-year sentence for a firearms crime.

Many of those awaiting trial were caught by the FBI in stings, which the agency says is a crucial way of preventing and disrupting ISIS attacks.

Keep reading…

From: slade
09-Oct-16
Cricket's Mouse, they would rather twaddle over the "Back Room Locker Talk Armageddon", kowtowing is what they do best.

From: Anony Mouse
14-Oct-16
Too good not to post on this thread. Thanks, Spike!

From: Anony Mouse
17-Oct-16
From: slade
17-Oct-16

From: Anony Mouse
01-Dec-16
One way to deal with the problems of koranderthalism:

Slovakia passes law to BAN ISLAM from being registered as a religion

Slovakia is not wrong.

Islam is much more than just a religion. Islam a comprehensive system — political, military, legal, religious and dietary.

Unlike Canon Law, which pertains only to Catholics, and Jewish law, which pertains only to Jews, Islamic law asserts its authority over non-Muslims (which is why non-Muslims and secular Muslims are persecuted, oppressed and slaughter in countries under sharia law).

The sharia dictates every basic aspect of human life. There can be no separation of mosque and state. Mosque is state.

EU MIGRANT FALLOUT: Slovakia passes law to BAN Islam from being registered as a religion

SLOVAKIA has passed a law which will effectively ban Islam from gaining official status as a religion, in the latest signs of a growing anti-Muslim sentiment across Europe. By Rebecca Perring, Daily Express, Dec 1, 2016 (thanks to Christian): The legislation hints at a dramatic changing attitude towards the religion in the past year across the continent, which has struggled to stem the escalating migrant crisis.The former communist state has fiercely resisted European Union (EU) efforts to cope with an influx of migrants travelling into Europe by turning its back on the bloc’s introduction of migrant quotas.But prime minister Robert Fico’s government has repeatedly said Islam has no place in Slovakia.Attitudes toward the religion appear to reflect fear of so-called Islamisation... (continued at link)

From: Anony Mouse
18-Feb-17
Condensed History of Islam From Brigitte Gabriel

One of the last bastions of Christianity in the Middle East is Lebanon, although many Christians were driven out during the 1975–1990 civil war. Among those who left was Hanan Qahwaji, whom we now know as Brigitte Gabriel. If people in the West knew half as much as she does about Islam, we would stop listening to reflexively treasonous Islamophile moonbats and get our guard up at long last. Last year she gave us this quick history lesson:

To learn more, including how the largely Christian Middle East became Muslim and how consistent Islamic State tactics are with those employed by the supposed Last Prophet, a recommended source is It’s All About Muhammad.

From: Anony Mouse
05-May-17
Too many people are unwilling to face the reality (and history) of koranderthalism and its perversion of western moral values...

Islam—The View from Disney Country

William Kilpatrick

(note: internal links at source)

The Diocese of Orlando recently reprimanded a sixth grade teacher at a Catholic school for an “unfortunate exhibit of disrespect.” What did he do? He provided printouts to students of St. John Bosco’s negative assessment of Islam. St. John Bosco called Islam a “monstrous mixture of Judaism, Paganism, and Christianity,” and explained that Muhammad “propagated his religion, not through miracles or persuasive words, but by military force.”

Citing Nostra Aetate, Jacquelyn Flanigan, an associate superintendent with the Diocese of Orlando’s schools, said that “the information provided in the sixth-grade class is not consistent with the teachings of the Catholic Church.”

If that’s so, then a lot of saints and popes expressed views on Islam that are not consistent with the teachings of the Catholic Church. St. Thomas Aquinas, for instance, said that Muhammad “seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure,” “did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way,” “forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms,” and “perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testament by making them into fabrications of his own.”

Numerous popes and saints (see Andrew Bieszad’s “What Did the Saints Say about Islam?”) indulged in similar exhibits of “disrespect,” including Pope Calixtus III, who vowed to “exalt the true Faith and to extirpate the diabolical sect of the reprobate and faithless Mahomet in the East.”

The Diocese of Orlando didn’t say just where the teacher deviated from Church teachings or in what way he was showing disrespect for Islam. In fact, much of what Don Bosco says is attested to by Islamic sources and Islamic historians. The claim that Muhammad “propagated his religion … by military force” seems consistent with the testimony of Ibn Ishaq’s Life of Muhammad, most of which is filled with accounts of raids, battles, distribution of booty, and forced conversions. Then, there’s the fact that the Islamic calendar is dated not from 610 AD, the date of Muhammad’s first “revelation,” but from 622, the date when he moved to Medina and commenced his career of jihad. Up until that point, Muhammad never had more than 100 followers. After 622, Islam took off precisely because of “military force.”

The handout of Bosco’s views on Islam also notes that the Qur’an “guaranteed its followers a Paradise filled only of earthly pleasures.” But the Qur’an really is full of depictions of paradise which portray it as a garden of earthly delights. For example:

As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards and high-bosomed maidens for companionship: a truly overflowing cup (78: 31-34).

One of the passages in the Bosco handout, that a Huffington Post article cites disapprovingly, says that Muhammad “couldn’t even write.” But according to numerous Islamic sources, he couldn’t. In fact, Muslim apologists are fond of using Muhammad’s illiteracy as proof of the Koran’s divine origin. How, they ask, could an illiterate man write such beautiful prose? Who else but God could have produced such a perfect book?

In other words, a case can be made that St. John Bosco and St. Thomas Aquinas accurately reflected Islamic doctrine in their writings. The disturbing thing is the Orlando Diocese’s unwillingness to even entertain that possibility. The associate superintendent says, in effect, “You can’t say that. The Church has spoken. Case closed.” One assumes that, like most graduates of education schools (including Catholic schools of education), the diocese’s teachers and administrators lean left-of-center. The curious thing is that in most other matters, liberal Catholics spurn the argument from authority. Yet, here they are wielding it like a cudgel. One is reminded of the classic Ring Lardner line, “’Shut up,’ he explained.”

One thing that is striking about the defenders of the new orthodoxy about Islam is their sheer lack of curiosity. Considering that the spread of Islam in recent years has been accompanied by massive violence against Christians, one would think that they would be anxious to know more. Not so. Like the functionaries in the Orlando Diocese, they want the matter closed without further discussion.

Yet there are numerous questions surrounding the Church’s sparse and scattered statements about Islam that beg to be answered. For example, do the Church’s recent statements about Islam outweigh what it has said over the last 1400 years? Has the Church adopted the Islamic doctrine of abrogation whereby more recent statements cancel out earlier contradictory statements? Has the associate superintendent in Orlando ever heard of the doctrine of abrogation? Does she know that prominent Catholics have raised questions about Nostra Aetate, the document she cites? For instance, Pope Benedict XVI wrote about a “weakness” in Nostra Aetate. “It speaks of religion solely in a positive way,” he said, “and it disregards the sick and distorted forms of religion.”

In speaking of Islam, the Council fathers stressed the commonalities between Islam and Christianity, not the differences. But this one-sidedly positive assessment needs to be understood in the context of the stated mission of Nostra Aetate. The first paragraph of the document states that “She [the Church] considers above all in this declaration what men have in common and what draws them to fellowship.” In other words, the Council fathers were not setting out to provide a full picture of the Muslim faith, but only to sketch some of the similarities with Catholicism.

Which raises an oft-asked question (though, apparently, not oft-asked in Orlando): was Nostra Aetate meant to be a teaching document or a pastoral document? Was it meant to deal with matters of faith and morals in a definitive way? Or was it mainly pastoral in intent? Were the Council fathers intending to teach Catholics about the nature of Islam? Or was Nostra Aetate primarily meant as a gesture of outreach to non-Christians?

Several prominent bishops have suggested the latter. Vatican Cardinal Walter Brandmüller has stated that Nostra Aetate does “not have a binding doctrinal content.” And Archbishop Guido Pozzo, the Secretary of the Pontifical Council Ecclesia Dei, told a German newspaper “Nostra Aetate does not have any dogmatic authority, and thus one cannot demand from anyone to recognize this declaration as being dogmatic.”

The Catholic educators in Orlando and elsewhere should take notice. They should also engage in a practice they undoubtedly encourage in their students—namely, critical thinking. When they read in Nostra Aetate that “they [Muslims] value the moral life,” do they ever wonder if it’s the same moral life that Catholics value? Do they ever wonder about the discrepancy between what Pope Francis says about the Koran (“opposed to every form of violence”), and what the Koran itself says about violence? Do they have enough intellectual curiosity to find out for themselves whether St. John Bosco’s observations about Islam are accurate or not? If they did want to find out, they would have to dig a lot deeper than Nostra Aetate.

The truth is that recent Church statements about Islam have precious little to say about Islam—certainly not enough to get a full picture of what “authentic” Islam teaches. Nostra Aetate, Lumen Gentium, Evangelii Gaudium, The Catechism of the Catholic Church? If you add together everything these documents have to say about Islam, and subtract the repetitions, you end up with about half a page of text. The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which devotes six paragraphs to man’s relationship with animals (2415-18, 2456-57), devotes only one paragraph to the Church’s relationship with the Muslims (841). And that paragraph merely repeats the paragraph in Lumen Gentium, which was written at a time (the 1960s) when the Church’s relationship with the Muslims was more or less a back-burner issue.

That paragraph is forty-four words long. That’s about eighty words less than the warning label on a bottle of Tylenol. And unlike the Tylenol label, it contains no warning. In short, there is room for the Church to say a lot more about Islam.

Catholics deserve a fuller picture of Islam than the rosy-hued one that prevailed among Council participants in the mid-1960s. An update is urgently needed. Otherwise, Catholics will have to learn by harsh experience what their fellow Christians are learning about Islam in Nigeria, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, and a host of other Muslim-majority countries.

While they are waiting for the update, Catholics would be well-advised to put down Nostra Aetate and pick up a copy of the Koran, or the Sira (the life of Muhammad), or Reliance of the Traveller (a widely-consulted manual of sharia law). Then they can judge for themselves what Islam teaches.

In view of the fact that Orlando was the scene of the Islam-inspired massacre at the Pulse nightclub, you would think that the Church in Orlando might have acquired a more realistic view of Islam. But Orlando is also the home of Disney World—the place which assures us that “when you wish upon a star your dreams come true.” Well, maybe that depends upon which star you wish on. If you’re placing all your bets on the star with the crescent moon nearby, you are truly living in fantasyland.

From: bigeasygator
05-May-17
My bet still stands Trax, $5,000 the Muslim population of the Netherlands doesn't hit 10% by 2024.

From: bigeasygator
05-May-17
And I never said there was no issue with Islam. Radical Islam is a problem. But you way overbow the threat.

From: Anony Mouse
05-May-17
PhD thesis: The earth is flat

Last week, a huge scandal rocked the Tunisian and Arab scientific and educational world: a PhD student submitted a thesis declaring Earth to be flat, unmoving, young (only 13,500 years of age), and the centre of the universe.

Going even bolder and further, the student explicitly rejected the physics of Newton and Einstein, the astronomy of Copernicus and Kepler, the cosmology of the Big Bang, the main models of atmospheric and geological activity, and most of modern climatology.

The student submitted her thesis after five years of work; it was then sent to two assessors, thus passing the first stage of approvals. The reports were expected soon, for the thesis defence to be scheduled.

It was at this stage that fate luckily intervened: a copy of the thesis was “leaked” to the former president of the Tunisian Astronomical Association, who checked that it was not a hoax and then quickly rang the alarm by posting on Facebook the general conclusions of the thesis, verbatim.

Gulf News readers may recall that two years ago, I wrote a column lamenting the talk that a Saudi cleric had given in the UAE insisting that Earth does not rotate, neither around itself nor around the Sun; I described the moment as a “debacle” and tried to draw lessons from it.

This new scandal is much worse, because it does not come from a cleric (that was bad enough) but rather from a PhD student in science, her supervisor held the Professor rank (the highest in academia), and they were explicitly rejecting major parts of modern science.

They also went further than just submit a thesis, they published a paper (in an obscure and disreputable journal) presenting “physical and astronomical arguments” for geo-centrism (Earth being central and fixed in the universe).

The paper is available online, and anyone can quickly check that both the paper and the journal are worthless: countless grammatical errors, mediocre references, puny scientific arguments; the journal is classified as “fake and predatory”, one of those “pay and we’ll publish your article quickly, with no reviewing or editing”...

I don’t mean to belabour the point, but it is worth citing a few ideas from the general conclusion given at the end of the thesis, if at least to fully impress upon the reader the size of the calamity that has just occurred — before we analyse its causes.

The “results” of this doctoral thesis include: the Earth is flat and young, and it stands immobile at the centre of the universe, which is made of only one galaxy; the sun’s diameter is 1,135km (not 1.4 million km), the moon is 908 km wide, and they lie 687 and 23 times closer to Earth, respectively; there are 11 planets; stars are “limited” in number and have a diameter of 292 km (not millions of km).

How does one explain such stunning ignorance of basic astronomy, coupled with such brashness and insolence — rejecting Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Einstein, Hubble, and everything in science?

In this particular case, I believe this was due to an adherence to religious, scriptural literalism, in other words taking the meanings of religious texts literally and blindly, at the cost of rejecting all knowledge that appears to contradict it, no matter how much evidence supports it.

Indeed, we find in the conclusions of the thesis clear indications of this stand and approach, expressions such as: “using physical and religious arguments”, “also proving the world scale of [Noah’s] flood”, “proposed a new kinematic approach that conforms to the verses of the Quran”, “the roles of the stars are: (1) to be ornaments of the sky; (2) to stone the devils; and (3) as signs to guide creatures in the darkness of earth”; and finally “the geo-centric model... accords with the verses of the Quran and the pronouncements of our Prophet.”

From: bigeasygator
05-May-17

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I bet you $5,000 NONE of those projections about when those European countries will become a majority Muslim in your video come true. It was 6% in 2012. It's projected to be about 8% in 2030. If you want a much more realistic and thorough analysis of Muslim populations go to the link I posted (note that there are 16 pages in the report and you have to go to the bottom to get to the pages with country by country details).. It has sources unlike the fake news video you like to tout as reality.

From: bigeasygator
05-May-17
Can somebody translate Trax's last post for me?

From: bigeasygator
05-May-17
I still don't know what a straw swine argument is.i didn't make any arguments in my last post. I made a prediction, and I linked to a source of data to back up those predictions (with its own named sources). And I called your news source fake. What of those things is the "straw swine argument?"

From: bigeasygator
05-May-17
Trax, I do know. It's all in the report. Populations going back to 1990. You want the exact 2007 give me a minute and I'm sure we can find it or an accurate approximation. The reality is the data in the report which has numbers for 1990 and 2010 is plenty to see the trends.

I know those aren't your videos. That hasn't stopped you from calling them "fact" and "reality." It takes about 15 seconds of digging to find out they are complete garbage. You tout them as fact and they are the foundation upon which your arguments are based and they are complete falsehoods. You wanna talk about ignoring facts...it's you that needs to look in the mirror.

Again, I'm so confident the demographics you claim to be reality based on those videos are so wrong that I'm betting you $5,000 not a single one of those population projections they will come true. Shake on it?

From: Anony Mouse
05-May-17
Trax/BEG: please take your conversation to either PMs or a new thread...irrelevant content for purpose of thread. If TOTs were available, your exchanges would be a valid reason for removing.

From: Anony Mouse
05-May-17

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The Enemies Among Us Part 1 (Guest Post)

Having written about the group Jamaat al-Fuqra, now known as Muslims of America, once before and considering the election of Donald Trump as President, there is more to be investigated by our administration and made available to the general public.

Different sources, including many within the Muslims of America organization have made clear that they expect the members of this jihadist organization to arm themselves purportedly in anticipation of raids by the new administration. The group is waiting for a violent confrontation with law enforcement on the jihad bases they have in this country listed somewhere between 22 and 34. They are attempting to stockpile automatic weapons in what they consider the start of the end time.

They consider the reopening of FBI investigations proving them to be home grown terrorist organizations that were set aside as a spark to the violence that they have spent these past years training for. Sheikh Gilani, based in Pakistan and running the operation from there has made clear to his followers here in our country that Donald Trump is part of an anti-Zionist conspiracy to destroy Islam. The FBI, as early as 1988 identified Jamaat Al-furqa (MOA) as an Islamist paramilitary group which believe the Islamic faith will dominate the world within the century through violent confrontations. In a NCIS investigation since closed because of funding, it was shown that all of these MOA compounds have specific individuals involved in criminal scams to raise money including insurance fraud, mail fraud, credit card fraud, workers compensation fraud and straw purchase of weapons.

Sheikh Gelani , founder of the MOA on November 14th( after the election of Trump) stated:

”I foretold the disastrous results should this man be elected as the American President. He has come as a test and trial for faithful adherents of the holy books.”

Gilani has prophesied to his followers that a “tyrant” would be in the White House during the end times before the battle of victory for Islam. This is the same Sheikh Gelani that Wall Street Journal Daniel Pearl was going to see when he was abducted and murdered.

Sheikh Gelani also distributed a videotape in 1992 that was sent to all the compounds that discussed “Advanced Training Courses in Islamic Military Training” with contacts in the International Quranic Open Universities in the US, (In New York, Michigan, South Carolina), Canada and the Caribbean. Those who finish the training are designated “soldiers of Allah”, an international jihad force affiliated with the MOA. A good portion of the training is specifically fighting Jews and Israelis.

They continue to train without government interference and consider any attack on MOA as an assault on Islam and enough reason to start Islamic Jihad countrywide. Declaring all the arms training and bomb making activities are for self defense while planning to take offensive action. Khalifa Hussain Abdallah (K1) is the man responsible for the preparations being made for armed conflict.

AN FBI report from 2007 has found MOA to be involved in at least 10 murders, three fire bombings . It also stated that the “soldiers of Allah” are sent to Pakistan to receive terrorist training that allows these compounds to become capable of planning and instigating terrorist campaigns within the U.S. This group is known for an attack that ended with the assassination of Arizona Imam Rashid Khalifa in Arizona in 1990.

In Islamburg, outside Hancock , New York, the MOA headquarters in New York, have been shown to be training women in guerrilla tactics in 2002, and continues to this day. There is a history of terrorism, criminal activity including weapons trafficking, and a policy of violence against “enemies of Islam”, including the U.S. Government. At the “Red House” compound in Virginia law enforcement attempted to arrest Traci Upshur for a straw purchase of firearms for her husband who was convicted of a felony. Police were threatened by the “Mayor” of the Islamic village, Matthew Gardner, who goes by the name Muhammed Ali, threatened the officers by claiming there were 200 armed followers on the compound that were ready to defend Ms. Upshur should the police attempt to arrest her.

There is also MOA members who have been arrested for the distribution of drugs, weapons charges, welfare fraud, and counterfeiting. These members have been told by MOA to stay off the compounds and to minimize meetings with other MOA members. As parolees, those convicted of felonies can be searched at any time by local law enforcement. The compounds do not want local law enforcement to be able to enter these compounds, and so these parolees are silent jihadists away from the compounds.

There are sources that can prove the MOA affiliated funds are collected to be sent to “mujaheddin” in Pakistan and Kashmir. Children of the members of these camps have been indoctrinated into the Jihad terrorism taught in these compounds

In 1991 a Colorado investigation described MOA as “the most significant terrorist group in the United States. On the terrorist training camp located outside of Buena Vista in Colorado it was found that the intimidation of local law enforcement and violence perpetrated by its members to achieve their jihadis agenda was not terrorism because terrorism was not defined in state or federal statutes..

The State Department includes MOA it the annual Patterns of Global Terrorism but does not designate at as a terrorist organization. It does describe MOA as an Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence. They were included in this report as a group that has carried acts of terrorism not formally designated as such by the State Department. The reason given by the State Department for this non-designation is that they consider MOA a domestic group, rather than a foreign organization. Never discussed is if past violence that was instigated by this organization has been checked so as not to draw attention to the policies and objectives of violent jihad the US when the time is right. The Center for Policing Terrorism has stated :

“it is only a matter of time before Al-Fuqra (MOA) assists an organization in an assault on US soil.”

MOA has the ability to blend into the background, and still conduct terrorist operations. The funding that they receive is questionable at best, and many of the members wok in transportation in the major cities of this country making it simple to plant explosive devices and achieve work arounds of any and all security protocols. The Department of Homeland Security in 2005 has discussed MOA as a possible sponsor of a terrorist attack in the US. It has listed this group as a group that requires continual monitoring , agreeing that MOA is adept at concealing its activities and its preparations for a confrontation with US authorities.

There are also links to Al Qaeda that have been proven. To be shown in the next column is the ties from MOA to Lashkar-e-Tabir, the Blind Sheikh, and the front groups that are able to collect firearms, training and give the MOA the ability to launder finances.

From: slade
06-May-17
Sorry Mouse, but a bunch or any Mulsims hanging out in Onalaska,WA would stick out like a sore thumb, this is based on a report form 2005 and has never been proven or unproven (what most conspiracies are based on). I guess they could only travel by night and go to Portland or Seattle for provisions, but not likely.

From: Anony Mouse
09-May-17
The Enemies Among Us Part 2 (Guest Post)

In the first part of this column we discussed Jamaat Al Fuqra or Muslims of America and the battlegrounds that are being formed throughout the country. Today, we will discuss some of the history of how this organization in financed, and where the money goes.

Starting with an investigation in 1983 started by the FBI in response to a firebombing in Detroit, intended to force the dissolution of the Ahmadiyya Islamic Movement in the United States. Further investigations were performed leading to a Colorado Springs investigation that focused on fraudulent claims of worker’s compensation. It was found that MOA members used aliases and fraudulent companies to plan and implement the worker’s compensation and violent crimes. In the storage locker that was investigated, a targeting packet was found along with a description of a planned attack on a Hare Krishna Temple in Denver that had occurred five years earlier. The explosives found in the Colorado Storage locker was nearly identical to those used in the temple bombing. Bomb making materials were found, including switches, timers, 30 pounds of explosives, three large pipe bombs, bomb making instructions handguns with serial numbers removed, IED’s, potential target maps including Los Angeles, Phoenix and Denver. Also found were documents showing that al Fuqra was performing worker’s compensation fraud, and 54 fake birth certificates from North Carolina.

In the storage locker investigation was also found a list of worker’s compensation fraud cases that were turned over to the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment. There were a cross reference of 2000-3000 names that belonged to Al Fuqra members. Charges were brought for insurance fraud, identification fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. The fraud produced more than $35,000 for Al Fuqra to help fund the terrorist camps.

Gateway charter school in Fresno county California was another fraud that was run by Al-fuqra. A charter school system it was run by the same members who owned the local Al Fuqra commune if the area. It was found that attendance numbers were inflated in order to receive more money from the state of California, resulting in a $3 million overpayment to al-Fuqra

Also found in the storage locker was a plan to assassinate Rasha Khalif, imam of the Tucson mosque. Two weeks after an interview by the Tucson police department, Imam Khalif was stabbed in the mosque and killed. This was one of the methods discussed in the documents found in the storage locker.

One of the frauds that have been perpetrated in the past and is still ongoing is the formation of security companies such as Professional Security Company (PSI) which has close associations with Jamaat Al Fuqra members. It has been claimed that PSI is a key facilitator of money laundering and money transfers as well as a strategic information source for planned terrorism. PSI has also been able to obtain access to targets and obtain firearm permits and the firearms themselves. The PSI has also been used as a front company to get access to property and information used for white collar crimes, bombings and possibly murders. Also a portion of this criminal activity is the wire fraud through e mails and telephones.

Not designated as a terrorist organization by the State Department, Jamaat al Fuqra and its subsidiaries such as PSI have negotiated security contracts with the federal government and airports throughout the world. Other security organizations affiliated with Jamaat al Furqa include:

• 768 Security New York operated by Al Fuqra member Husain Abdallh.

• It is suspected that 768 has transported funds through Canada to Pakistan.

•Dagger Investigation Service A 786 Securities affiliate organization

•Watchdog Securities A 786 Securities affiliate organization

• Mills Security A 786 Securities affiliate organization

•CCC Carpentry operated by Al Fuqra member Chris Childs

•RDW Construction operated by Al Fuqra member James Upshur

•CML Corporation associated with Al Fuqra members

•R & D Carpenters associated with Al Fuqra members.

All of the criminal activities associated with Jamaat AL Fuqra have identifiable characteristics that have been made plain by the original Colorado investigations. The organization of the criminal activities by terrorist organization differ in some way that other criminal organizations. It is based on a central figure who has an understanding of what the organization is attempting to achieve, with the others in the organization not having more than the information they need to carry out the agenda of which they are a part. Members are required to undergo a rigorous vetting process, and contractually obligated to written contracts allocating the monies to the organization of any crimes or frauds It is made clear to them that the money raised in fraud is used for the benefit of the organization rather than the individual. The group members raise money must have a deep rooted commitment to the cause, they must raise money for food, clothing, housing and to send a portion back to the founding organization overseas. Generally, 10% goes to the parent organization in Pakistan and supported by Pakistans ISI services, 50% for land and weapons and land purchase.

Some of the ways this money is accumulated is through worker’s compensation fraud through companies they own, public health care fraud, welfare fraud and food stamps, and even student loans. They have also been found to attain monies from false ID cards and other forged documents.

Another investigation tied to individuals living at the Colorado compound and storage locker was carried out in Buena Vista, Colorado and the Trout Creek compound. At the Buena Vista compound were found 30 firearms hidden in a cave and over 9000 rounds of Chinese ammunition. There were other raids conducted Williamsport Pennsylvania at the same time. It was found that the children of those at all locations were home schooled and had received terrorist training at an early age. It was found that worker’s compensation fraud was an integral part of the purchase of the Trout Creek compound.

Counter-terrorism policies and the ability of different agencies being able to communicate and coordinate information a major concern, and will take a considerable effort to reach the ability to find and close down these concerns, while still allowing for citizens privacy in relation to national security. There needs to me more cooperation on fraud and white collar crime on the local level and a further ability to ties this fraud to terrorist organizations.

It has been reported that parolees who may be on these compounds have been moved off the campus along with members to areas with no MOA presence before. This was done after President-elect Trumps election and is believed to be setting up safe houses in areas unknown to law enforcement.

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