The bigger problem is that he steals all the limelight. Rubio attacks him, Trump responds. Cruz attacks him, Trump responds.
Trump says they're embarrassed about being so far behind him in the polls..."Swing for the fences..."
And Trump gets most of the air time reinforcing the impression he is the alpha and in charge.
More concerning - I'm in Texas and saw a Cruz ad right before the debate. If he has to spend to defend Texas that is a really bad sign.
Kasich looks funny with unusually short sleeves and those karate chop gestures. If you play in fast motion it's hysterical !
Cruzs best moment was the Supreme Court judge segment. Cruz's worst moment was crying for time on Obamacare and then only talking about Trump and nothing on his own plan.
Kasich was good with budget economics from an executive standpoint.
Rubio had a great line - "a deal is not a deal when you're dealing with terrorists".
If you you were a woman that is. I liked Cruz and Kasich.
But ultimately Trump's post debate comment that Rubio is a "choke artist" was probably a more quote worthy and damaging...It reinforces suspicions that Rubio may be a lightweight who will choke in the general.
I thought Cruz was winning the debate until the exchange with Trump where Trump was like "Go ahead", and Cruz paused and Trump said, "Go ahead don't get nervous" and Cruz said he wasn't nervous....And Cruz stumbled a bit and Trump said to Wolf, "Take control" and Wolf moved on and Cruz whined about not having time after he missed his chance.
LOL...Trump says in post debate interview that maybe the IRS is auditing him because of his religion - because he is a strong Christian...."
I seen that and lol'ed! really, a strong Christian? he is hilarious, ill give him that
I think Rubio won the debate but he did not look so good doing so. Very scripted. He has trouble in his own state. Not good. Cruz was not bad in his home state but they know he is a liar and a politician. Cruz should win Texas handedly and if he doesn't he is finished. It must be in the high teens or better. Rubio far outdid Cruz tonight.
Trump got hammered from pillar to post as was expected and was viciously attacked from both sides. That is what you do when it is do or die because that is exactly what this was for Rubio and Cruz. Trump has such a commanding lead they had no choice.
Trump took it well and was still standing at the end. You would think they finally tore Trump down but this guy does not just fade away that easily.
Who would be surprised if he gets a bump for taking a good beating?
I guess we will see.
The Rock
100% False, I haven't seen a single poll anytime recently showing Trump ahead of Cruz in Texas, and there's multiple ones this week showing Cruz ahead of Trump by anywhere from 8-15 points in TX.
"More concerning - I'm in Texas and saw a Cruz ad right before the debate. If he has to spend to defend Texas that is a really bad sign."
Cruz isn't worried about winning Texas, but he's spending money on ads there because the higher percentage of the vote he gets, theoretically the higher number of delegates he gets, depending partly on where those votes are from. Texas isn't "Winner Take All" this year, and the way they apportion their delegates is a little confusing, but, in a nutshell, the higher % of the vote he gets, and keeps Trump and Rubio from getting, the more delegates he will take away from the win. That's why he's spending money running ads in Texas, just trying to up his win margin.
1) Rubio finally ginned up the courage to take a few shots at Trump, though he wouldn't look at him for the first few, looked a little scared. I thought he had a few effective hits on Trump, but honestly, there were times his attacks looked very forced, like they were memorized from a flash card and he was determined to get them in no matter what. Looked a little desperate and flailing to me, like he was trying to "catch up". Flat out lied when he said we need Border Security now before any other illegal immigration measures, but he voted AGAINST a mandatory border security before legalization amendment to the Gang of 8. Hypocrite.
2) I thought Cruz was at his best tonight when attacking Trump and making clear distinctions between him and Trump, who supported Democrats and was friends with them.
3) It was tough to separate the truth and the lies from Trump tonight, though he told a lot of the latter and few of the former. He wasn't quite as flustered tonight as a few debates ago, but he still got owned again and again. And no specifics on his policies, as usual.
I did see a poll where Trump was leading Texas - probably the one Trump was referencing...But obviously an extreme outlier. Cruz was smart not to take the bait, although I wish he had later expressed confidence he would win the state and referenced his endorsements.
His only real mistake was getting baited in the "Don't be nervous' exchange, I thought.
I don't really agree on the "Trump donated to Dems" line. I think it has been played out and overdone and Trump's answers to it are acceptable to most. Trump seemed to rattle Cruz a bit when he said, "I gave you money too."
It was a very entertaining debate but probably won't change race in any way.
Clinton was a great liar. He could lie to someone in a way that they knew he was lying....But they still wanted to believe him...And so people didn't hold his lies against him as much as they should. Al Gore OTOH would make an exaggeration and nobody wanted to believe him. So folks tended to think Gore was a liar over minor fibs, while they would give Clinton slack for his whoppers.
But Trump is the greatest liar of them all.
He can brazenly lie. And everyone knows he is lying. And he knows that everyone knows that he is lying. We all know that he knows that we know that he's brazenly lying....But he also knows that we are so shocked by his over the top lying that we think it is kind of funny. And so we don't hold it against him as much.
"Maybe they're auditing me because of my religion." Hilarious.
It is like he's saying, "Politicians are supposed to lie, so I'm gonna be the greatest liar of all the politicians!" And people love him for it because they think deep down they're all full of it...But his lies come with an unstated wink of "I'm doing the lying politician thing better than anyone ever - enjoy the show!"
It is as if he is a sincere phony...Honest and dishonest at the same time.
Some folks think Ted Cruz is insincere for expressing his faith...Even though he is telling the truth.
But Donald Trump is so over the top and brazenly insincere about his faith that it is kind of funny....Even to people of faith. They know he is full of it....But he is a sincere phony.
Trump creates lots of cognitive dissonance and exudes a reality distortion field that puts Steve Jobs to shame.
They are doing the same to him now with their attacks, writing a narrative the public is just hearing. And I think the public will start to take a closer look; however, he stands a good chance of having the delegates wrapped up by then.
The convention will be interesting. I do not see how this guy can be our nominee. It was obvious he does not know policy. All he says is we are going to be great again, and we will have a very, very good... Take great and very out of his vocabulary and I don't think he could complete a sentence.
Trump spent a lot of time talking in circles, obfuscating, and lying. So in other words, his typical debate performance. He did have to deal with some issues that aren't new, but haven't been generally known to the voting public to date, and you know what they say, "when you're explaining, you're losing". I doubt his performance damaged him in the eyes of his die-hard zombie supporters, but I don't doubt that some people on fence whose support for Donald is soft, may well have had some serious doubts planted in their minds last night.
Cruz, in a word, was Presidential. He hit Trump even harder than Rubio did, but he did it in a collected, purposeful manner, and didn't look desperate and rehearsed. I love that he made the point about Trump testifying in that Fraud case and how the media would eat him alive. He also did a very good job of pointing out how someone who has donated tons of $ to the Democrat politicians that Trump has donated to, cannot possibly be believed when he says he is pro-life, pro-gun, pro-religious liberty, etc. etc. Those Democrats have made a career out of working AGAINST the Constitution. Trump isn't credible, when he's helped support all those Dems who fight tooth and nail against what so many American hold dear. Cruz did himself a lot of good last night. I think it was his best debate by far. Saw several people on twitter last night say that after the debate, they donated $ to Cruz and they've never donated money to a politician before. That's significant.
Everything you said about Trump in that response is so SPOT ON. Pretty insightful analysis. I've actually seen Trump supporters say, in a nutshell, what you did. They know he's a liar, but all politicians are liars, they say, and at least he has fun while lying.
Heck of a reason to support someone for President. Especially when you say you want the outsider because you're tired of all the politicians LYING. Yet you're going to vote for the guy who lies better than they do, and furthermore, helps fund them and is friends with them, buying influence with them? Sure, makes perfect sense!
KPC, do not mind at all, but we disagree. Sure he has some experiences the others do not, and he created a lot of jobs, though I did do some of that.
I will be embarrassed for our nation if he becomes president.
If Carson wasn't still in the race, I think he could get pretty close to 50%, but I don't think he will with Carson still in. My guess is Cruz will finish up in the high 30's/low 40's in TX. I believe that 20% is an important threshold to get a decent amount of delegates, so if he can hold Rubio, and even Trump, below 20%, that will help him a lot. I don't think he'll hold Trump below 20%, but I'd be surprised if Rubio gets to 20%.
It must be thoroughly confounding for Rubio and Cruz to repeatedly fail at trying to put a dent in Trump's popularity. I'd be frustrated, too. Nothing seems to work.
Rubio had a few good moments during the debate where he looked strong. I'd give him a solid second place. But, Cruz looked weak. Trump talked over him and shut him down time and again. It was like Trump was verbally shoving Cruz all over the stage. It left Cruz looking weak and like a man trying desperately to prove he can hang with the big dogs. I thought he was supposed to be some kind of championship debater. That must've been in a league where everyone plays by the rules. LOL Welcome to a campaign for POTUS... where the only rule is to play to win.
Another favorite expression of his, "I know a lot of people and they all love me." That doesn't include the president of Mexico though;) and his two past wives. And this voter. He is actually behind Cruz now, in last place for me.
Like I said, predictable...
Rubio really pushed the idea that Trump hired illegals... but Trump's counter that Rubio hired no one at all, ever, had more effect. Rubio attacks from note cards but it doesn't feel genuine.
Cruz really pushed the idea that Trump gave money to democrats which is not a great argument when he gave more money to Republicans and Cruz took his money too. Trump's point that as a businessman he gets along with everyone wins against the truth that Cruz gets along with nobody. While Cruz trues to spin that as meaning he is tough on positons, the reality is that it promises more gridlock and people are sick of ineffective government.
Rubio and Cruz did their best when they stuck to details of their plans compared to the lack of details from Trump. But when they try to talk smack head to head with a real shark, they both get hurt and Trump grows stronger.
He is an SNL parody of a presidential candidate.
This video proves that Trump was flat out lying in the debate re: socialized healthcare. Which we all knew, but it's nice to have it in video form just the same.
Donald Trump and universal health care... #GOPDebatehttps://t.co/FBuaIfPsMN
— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) February 26, 2016
If the truth is predictable, then yay for being predictable.
The fact that he was ever in front of Cruz, for you, tells us a lot. About you.
Said maybe 1% of people when watching the debate last night. Congratulations, you're a part of the 1%!
Truth.
He wasn't lying when he said that he could commit a murder in public and his supporters would still vote for him.
In reality, trump would not change a single one of the things we most want changed in America.
This. So much this.
Yes it does say a lot about me. It says that I take my time gathering information before I decide. Something that is completely foreign to you. You have demonstrated a fantastic ability to run right off the Cliff, for years now. And, yes you are good at it, better than the rest.
Sniper, agree with some of your analygy but will wait to see what the polls and Tuesday bring. I think they put a crack in the facade last night and we will see if they can continue to force it open.
Again I say: If online polls were valid, we'd have President Paul these last four years
— Mark America (@markamerica) February 26, 2016
You obviously will never figure out. That question answers your malaise. Lay your energies elsewhere.
The Rock
Ya know... you're gonna have decades to support Cruz campaigns. Because he ain't gonna stop running until he becomes President. Which will never happen. Which means you get to support Cruz for Prez for at least 30 years. You think you're a finely-tuned Cruzbot now? Good lord... by 2046 you'll be a one-man Cruz machine!
LOL
I was almost shocked to hear he even thinks Cruz won the debate. lol
Its his same Santorum stuff from 2012 with only the names changed to protect the incompetant. Ha!
To win against Hilary you better be ready for a cage match and I'm disappointed in Trump and happy about Rubio. I didn't think Rubio had it in him to be so aggressive.
I'm still hoping Cruz gets the nomination but if it is trump he better cowboy up if he wants to beat Hilary. I think last night was great since he better now know what is in store for him.
You can't have both sides of that argument, but they try to with the "he'll always get the right side of a deal" argument, which is right up there with "it'll be great, I'll hire the best people for the job" kool aid that so many here drink without hesitation.
Say what you want about @TedCruz, the man is all about the Constitution. #GOPDebate
— David Dewhurst (@DavidHDewhurst) February 26, 2016
Cruz has a list of the sprcific details for what he wants to do as President (unlike Trump) but Cruz lacks the personality, appeal, and persuasion to get ANY of those things done (unlike Trump)
Cruz will tear up the Iran deal on day 1. Great. Typical Cruz speech perfect for the Senate floor. Then what? We broke the deal and Iran has already received the money and Iran can now build a nuke because of Cruz. Genius. Quick call an alliance together to fight Iran. Oooops, Cruz forgot that all our allies wanted that deal and signed it. So we fight the world alone, again because Cruz has no friends at all. Other than a dozen fanatics on bowsite. The josh militia. Great.
WRT Iran, Iran has already violated the "deal" which is not an approved treaty. The unfortunate thing about Iran is that there will be war with Iran, the sole question is when, not if.
So, Trump will make crappy deals with Democrats to end gridlock. Wow, let me try to restrain my enthusiasm for that....done.
But it is way too little too late I because Rubio looks like a desperate beta trying to attack the alpha at this point.
If Rubio had come after Trump hard as a con artist last October, maybe we'd be somewhere....But then Trump probably would have destroyed him early.
I do not think Trump can be stopped. As Republicans realize that Trump has unique skills and can beat Hillary in a way that the others cannot, his support among Republicans will grow, IMO.
Cruz' attack on Trump for being in a fraud lawsuit during the election, and how the press would have a field day with it was the strongest attack of the night, and probably the only one with any staying power.
At this point I think that to stop Trump, Republicans need to be convinced he cannot beat Hillary......But things are going in the opposite direction.
Last President elected and re-elected based on color! Next President will be elected based either on her gender or political deceit and electorate frustration. I do understand the deceit and frustration reasoning; but something missing in the evaluation? I think so.
Pretty much this.
Getting a kick out of the media asking Cruz in interviews last night why he and Rubio didn't attack Trump earlier. Had to laugh at that one. Cruz has been attacking Trump for the better part of 7 weeks now. Rubio didn't join the fight until last night. Late to the party
I see evidence with comments here and on the interweb of appreciation of how Cruz addresses issues. The only people that seem to get excited with his Trump attacks are the hard core Trumpophobes.
I guess that would explain the comments on twitter this morning from people saying they've never donated to a political candidate before, but got on-line and donated to Cruz last night after watching him hit Trump in the debate.
joshuaf, Are you using the same sources of information as TSI now?
"IMHO, Cruz presents himself as a far better candidate when he campaigns on issues and the Presidency than when he attacks Trump. It is probably too late to derail Trump, but Cruz would do well to show people a President than a cage fighter in an arena of Trump/Rubio."
......Cruz is borderline unlikeable with his cartoonlike voice and the way he has been attacking instead of focusing on the "to do" list really puts people off. My wife doesn't pay much attention to politics but took here about 5 seconds to say she doesn't like Cruz. That's his biggest issue.
See link...more evidence that Cruz needs to change course and deal with issues and ignore Trump and Rubio.
From link:
"GOP voters are in a fighting mood. They aren't much interested in business-as-usual, political niceties, or even conservative purity. They want someone who will take it to Washington—someone who will go there and fight for change."
(From the beginning, I have said that this is a TAF/TAP election. Trump recognized that and grabbed the emotional aspect of the failure of government when it came to the average citizen.)
"... It's a huge concern, however, for Cruz, who has to be the "change" candidate, leaving Trump to be the mad-as-hell/outsider candidate. If Trump is both the outsider candidate and the change candidate, then Cruz is sunk.
But this may need not be the case; the current trajectory of the race could be altered. Indeed, the most remarkable thing about Cruz's candidacy has been that he has managed to be one of the three real finalists without having yet brought his best issue into play. If he does so in time for the March 1 "SEC Primary," the state of the race could be altered for good. If he doesn't, he risks losing Texas.
Cruz's best issue just happens to be a crucial one. One would never know it from the topics discussed at the GOP debates, but the centerpiece legislation of the Obama presidency is Obamacare. It is the ultimate test of progressive ascendancy versus efforts to restore America's founding ideals of limited government and liberty. It is the core of President Obama's project of "fundamentally transforming the United States of America"—of making it a new land. As Claremont McKenna College professor Charles Kesler puts it, Obamacare is the "centerpiece" of Obama's "whole political enterprise." And repealing Obamacare would, correspondingly, be the greatest domestic-policy victory in the history of the conservative movement.
Lots of Republican primary voters understand this. For six long years, they have waited—and waited—for someone to champion a winning alternative and take Obamacare down..."
Article continues:
"...The opening for Cruz, the most vocal Obamacare opponent in the Senate, is, well, huge. Yet his campaign has not really taken advantage of it. The reason? Cruz hasn't yet released an alternative—and releasing a concrete alternative is the price of admission for being able to talk about Obamacare morning, noon, and night.
Releasing an alternative should benefit Cruz. Obamacare is not only the number-one thing that needs to be overturned from the Obama presidency; it is both the embodiment and symbol of nearly everything wrong with this presidency: runaway spending; Main Street economic woes; elitism; cronyism; the consolidation and centralization of power; the deprivation of liberty; attacks on religious freedom; public funding of abortion; government incompetence; naked lawlessness. In other words, in going after Obamacare, Cruz would be going after almost the entire Obama legacy, or at least the domestic side of that legacy..."
As it was mentioned over and over again in helping Michael with his speech, you don't win over an emotionally involved Trump supporter by fighting/demeaning him...you win (their votes/support) with a sound reasonable alternative -- Presidential solutions not emotional bombast.
I wonder just who Cruz's advisers are and why they can't see what seems so obvious. Cruz sure isn't going to overtake Trump by doing battle with him. He needs to address the issues which Trump holds the emotional aces with a simple straight flush.
If you say Kasich, at least I would agree with you. I believe you are from Ohio, so maybe he's your man. Realistically, I believe he was always too feeble to be in the running.
#1 Cruz should first get on top of this eligibility thing. Show the smarts and courage his fans here actually think he has. Settle the issue without fear, in a court, arguing the Constitution. It's supposed to be his area of expertise yet he is ducking it like a chump.
#2 Cruz speaks in a ponderous melodramatic baptists preacher style. Just 'cause he can, doesn't mean that he should. Talk like a regular guy having a discussion with friends. In fact first, get some friends. More comfortable expertise, less pious lecture
#3 Have a better sense of humor and smile like it doesn't hurt.
#4 cruz should update his look. He kind of has an Eddie-meets-grandpa from the Munsters thing going on...
BS for sure. How in the world can you blame Cruz , or anyone else for that matter, for the world of hurt that Obama and Kerry have created?
You just displayed a complete lack of either understanding of the situation or a complete lack of integrity or both with this statement.
God bless, Steve
LMAO.
Indisputable points all.
The Rock
Jeffress has completely shot his credibility as a preacher of the Bible. He is supporting a guy who less than 24 hours ago was again defending an organization that murders babies in the womb and sells their body parts to the highest bidder. Vile and Disgusting.
So let me test YOUR lack of understanding and integrity.. what happens on Day 2 after your bestest buddy Cruz tears up the deal on day 1???? We just gave Iran 150 billion dollars, check is cashed, every one of our allies agreed to the deal... Cruz rips it up... and then what?? Please explain what happens next....
Your points are always on and your humor is just the best, thanks.
That should be obvious.
Name one time a sitting US Senator took a case to the Supreme Court as a senator, in the history of the United States. Hint: the number is less than one.
Your complaint about Cruz in this case is ridiculous.
I understand, you want to complain about Cruz so badly that you have to complain about everything. Why don't you see what kind of Halloween candy he gives out, too?
Good grief.
The man gave way. That is not enough for you?
What is your point?
The Rock
Don't interfere when adults are talking.
So, let me see if I understand this. The problem with stopping Obamacare in Congress is you don't have a veto proof majority. So, if he tries to take a stand, he's wrong. And if he stands silent, he's wrong. If you want to complain that he leaves the toilet seat up, that would be consistent.
"Well, did Cruz just grandstand to shut down the government over Obamacare or not? If he did grandstand against it knowing full well that it would not be stopped, what good did he accomplish?"
See my two statements above.
"It seems logical, if Cruz really wanted Obamacare stopped that the best way was a legal challenge before it was implemented fully."
And that was done, twice. And both went down to defeat before the Supreme Court, unfortunately.
"Since Obamacare was found constitutional by the SCOTUS, I guess it would not be too far fetched to believe that a person born outside the United States is not a natural born citizen, would it?"
If your belief is that the Supreme Court will always come up with the wrong answer, I suppose that fits in your wheelhouse. I look at things from a far more analytical view, so I find your analogy lacking.
BowSniper's Link
Who wrote this?
Self-loathing, Bowsniper? Get help.
Your article is nonsense. I've represented plenty of folks who did stuff I didn't agree with. That does note mean I agree with the case, nor that I like the law.
Triple facepalm for your appalling lack of insight.
That is why I interfered. ;-)
The Rock
The hand shaking between him and Cruz was pretty funny....Like 'ya we're kicking his ass!'
That you think others need your help is a sign of your rampant narcissism, and your belief that all others are so greatly inferior that they need your help.
Again, this is the adult table. Sit elsewhere.
I am sitting elsewhere but you keep seeking it out. I would have thought your para-legal backlog would be keeping you busy. Don't forget the mail and to shine your own shoes. I sent you home in shame once. I guess it is something you just can't forget. ;-)
BTW....is that degree from an accredited institution? C'mon fess up. ;-)
The Rock
Adult questions get adult answers. Your questions are in crayon.
"Your article is nonsense. I've represented plenty of folks who did stuff I didn't agree with. That does note mean I agree with the case, nor that I like the law."
This might be one of the reasons most people not only dislike but also distrust lawyers. To most people it is reprehensible for someone making a living doing things that they don't agree with, kinda like an abortion doctor claiming to be pro life but he does some procedures he doesn't really agree with.
a doctor may perform surgery on someone who is an alcoholic, who wrecked his car when drunk. That does not mean he condones the addiction. Or the guy breaks his hand hitting his wife. Doesn't mean he thinks beating your wife is okay.
Lawyers represent people, and businesses in times of trouble. If your employer accidentally has a release of some toxic chemical in the river, they'll need counsel. You don't have to be in favor of dumping arsenic in a river to represent him.
Likewise, if someone comes to the office with a good appellate issue, a good appellate lawyer like Cruz may take the case. He may not like the law as written, but he may like the issues in the case, and have a chance to help the client.
We have to work within the law as it exists and the facts as they exist. Sometimes a client hires you, everything looks normal, and then, the client will do something mega-stupid in the middle of the case. My job is to get their problem to an end. So, we help them get their problems fixed.
If people only represented folks they agreed with, well, some folks would never be able to find an attorney. If you're distrustful of government and large organizations, is that really what you want?
I'm pretty sure Marines do things they may not agree with, too. They don't always agree with the battle plan, or the mission goals, but they do what they have to do.
I'm also pretty sure you guys are just arguing this because you have a stiffie for Trump, and are just throwing your brains away until the first Tuesday in November.
It is rather pathetic to see the total absence of thought from people who are allegedly conservative.
If this is how you wish to frame the argument then I would think above all else you would understand that it would demand uncompromising adherence to the premise of all persons having the right to legal counsel.
Reading through some of these posts on some of these threads I find myself wondering if many posters really understand exactly what it is they're arguing, for or against.
It's safe to say we've established beyond all doubt that Ted Cruz isn't perfect; neither for that matter is Donald Trump, Marco Rubio or a single soul, living or dead in the history of humanity save for that one being who walked this earth some 2,000 years ago; man as God intended man to be, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
We can't escape the frailties of man and all it's associated failings. All we can do is seek out those who best represent what is good, decent and moral in man and pray they adhere to those principles.
Weighing all the pros and cons of all of the original 17 I've never doubted the one who best fit that description has been and remains Ted Cruz. Donald Trump? He is the closest to reincarnation of the fabled Pied Piper of Hamlin replete with similar promises to rid us of "rats".
Be careful what you wish for.
Exactly what I would expect for you to come back with :NOTHING. The same thing you have contributed to this world: NOTHING. Living off the pain and agony of others.. What can you point to as your accomplishments? NOTHING. Keep coming back. Remember we employ our attorneys. They work for US. As you do. You are fun to play with. ;-)
The Rock
For some, it is no doubt their blind love for Trump, but for others like BowSniper it is not because they love Trump so much as they have evergreen hate for Cruz. And it's not so much Cruz he hates personally as just Christians in general. He's been just as vociferous in the past against any GOP candidate who talks about his Faith much. BowSniper is a first class Bigot.
"It is rather pathetic to see the total absence of thought from people who are allegedly conservative."
For the win.
For some, it is no doubt their blind love for Trump, but for others like BowSniper it is not because they love Trump so much as they have evergreen hate for Cruz. And it's not so much Cruz he hates personally as just Christians in general. He's been just as vociferous in the past against any GOP candidate who talks about his Faith much. BowSniper is a first class Bigot.
"It is rather pathetic to see the total absence of thought from people who are allegedly conservative."
For the win.
sureshot's Link
I've written before how large law firms work. You don't care, you just want to use this to bash Cruz again.
Mother Jones wrote the article to demean Cruz so he wouldn't get the nomination. That's what you want. You don't care anything about anything written in response, so why should I waste one more second with you? Forgive me for thinking you wanted to learn something.
Your ignorance of the legal profession is astounding.
For the record, an auto body repairman lives off the tragedy of others, as does a heart surgeon.
I'm sure the family adopting a child next month will take issue that my profession contributes nothing, nor would the lady who took the 2 year old child who was the worst victim of child abuse in a rural Colorado county (a child beaten so severely his genitalia were unrecognizable and every square inch of his body from the chest down was bruised), or the fellow who has his daughters after living with an abusive, borderline wife, or even the young Marine who was saddled with an order for more than he made because he couldn't show up at the hearing during the war.
So, keep deluding yourself. You have the inalienable right to be an ignorant fool all you want.
YOU on the other hand would not vote for someone based on religion, no matter how you try to dance around the words. Some of us remember your nonsense with Romney in 2012. Your bigoted brand of religion would not support a Mormon no matter what, as if his fairy tale was somehow worse than yours. But lo and behold along comes Trump, another rich semi-conservative guy, who wins evangelical South Carolina. Only difference - he is not a Mormon!
Your evangelical affirmative action to only vote FOR someone based on the same religion is actually voting AGAINST everyone else because of their different religion. Which makes you a religious bigot. The least godly attribute that you try to tithe and confess your way out of every week. Shame on you.
It has less to do with who you defend, than what you seek as judgement.. .which shows the worst judgement of all.
How can you be a real lawyer and be this poor at arguing a simple point?
Our company has employed attorneys since 1954. My grandfather said they were leeches then and I say they are leeches now. That being with my brother-in-law being one of our attorneys. He is the joke at the table, but laughs and rubs his finger and thumb together. I know you better than you do. You think you know me but it is WE who pay your way. We create. What do you do? You are beholden to business. You know your place and which side your bread is buttered on. When I tell your profession to do it they do it and they yes Sir me all the way. I don't have that problem. You do.
The Rock
June says to Ward; " Don't be so hard on the Beaver tonight". ;-)
Spike I respect you and many here and you know that. I have a bitter taste for others. Joshuaf was one of those but came to the table as a man and he can shred me, and still does, but I will still respect him, crazy as he is.
I would rather get along with this guy but he comes on like a stiff prick with people. As if being an attorney gives him sway. People must have this impression of lawyers being "bright" or "brilliant" when the truth is that 99% of them are totally useless and are glorified "paperboys". People watch too much television. I don't know how many times you have been in the courtroom but I have had my share many times, at all levels and these are comical people to say the least. Why do you think there are so many of them?...because they are hard to come by? Do you realize how many times I personally had to reconstruct contracts and payment schedule's attorneys have tried to slip by us by back loading project? Solid contracts I am told by guess who? C'mon. I will be happy to leave him go in peace. If he continues to disrespect anyone I will rip him plain and simple. I don't like people who are tough at the keyboard and pick on the unsuspecting. There are good and bad in all kinds I know that. Maybe bk is one of them. I know I address him bk and how does he address me? I never heard anyone say anything about him being hard.
Why is that? I could care less btw.
and...there was a time but not anymore. I work for MY company and answer to no one save my Lord. Negotiate. Absolutely. We have the ability to walk away from any contract that we do not believe favors our end. My grandfather and father paid those dues in sweat and dollars in education for me to resist now, when they had to bow to pressure then. Not anymore. Call me cocky but that is the way it is. I will gladly help anyone anyway I can and that includes reaching deep if necessary. bk is miserable about something in his life for him to be so contrary on so many topics and his insistent preaching to the choir. There are good people here who actually WORK for a living. They do not need that when they come here.
The Rock