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From: slade
29-Jun-16

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The party of Progressive quislings.

Senate panel approves $500M for international climate fund

By Devin Henry - 06/29/16 04:08 PM EDT The Senate Appropriations Committee on Wednesday adopted a $500 million spending package for the Green Climate Fund, an international climate change adaptation program.

From: slade
29-Jun-16

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From: Rupe
29-Jun-16
UFB. total sell out.

From: Woods Walker
29-Jun-16
"....total sell out...." AGAIN!!!

From: Anony Mouse
29-Jun-16

And there are those that think that these invertebrates will stand up to Hillary...

BOHICA!

From: Anony Mouse
29-Jun-16

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Spineless...

From: gflight
30-Jun-16
Doesn't surprise me, the NEW Republicans that nominated Trump love Democrat policies.

The Conservatives have lost this country and people who were conservative will settle for Trump. In doing so we will only slide further left.

Conservatism is circling the drain and you guys tell me how important it is to vote for a life long Democrat.

From: Anony Mouse
30-Jun-16
Gerald...it is the establishment wing of the Republican Party that has endorsed and supported the obamunists. There are no "new" Republicans...only refugees who are sick and tired of promises, lies and capitulation. Trump is a rejection of GoP politics as usual and not any support of proregressivism.

The GoP leadership is also the source of #nevertrump ideology. They would rather loose the election and accept the consequences that come with Hillary so they can re-group and have the excuse of blaming Trump for their own failures.

They would have you believe that the rejection of their candidates is not from their own creation. I said it early and still hold that Trump winning the nomination is just part of the TAF/TAP sentiment that was seen when Jebbie was considered a shoe-in. Trump is the result of rejection of GoP politics as usual.

(Too bad Cruz lost as he was the only other alternative to the continuation of establishment politics. I think that Cruz never really got a good foothold because being an "elected", he had too many ties to the party. Trump was pure "outsider".)

Trump's rise is due to a rejection of the Republican submission to media and Obama and continual caving in rather than acting as an opposition party. Trump's popularity has nothing to do with support of Democrats,but rejection of the GoP policy of FAIL.

Sadly, toomany conservatives cannot understand that they are and always have been a minority faction of the Republican Party. That's why their successful revolt to take out Boehner resulted with a clone in Ryan. The Republican Party is not and never will be a conservative party. For conservatives, it has been the only option (and poor one) in a two party system.

Trump, with faults and positives, may well result in the death of the GoP and that may be a very good thing for us conservatives...the rise of an alternative party and the coalescing of the establishment Republicans and the Democrats. A new conservative option to the same-old-same-old beltway political class would allow conservative ideas to be showcased without the taint of self-serving Republicans who campaign on false promises.

I doubt much will change if Trump gets elected. The GoP will ally with the Dems to fight Trump at every step. Neither party wants to see a successful Trump Presidency. And united, should Trump try to rule a la Obama by executive order; Congress will actually act to override Trump excesses.

With Hillary, the GoP will ball back into their present mode: "sound of fury,signifying nothing". They have/had no spine to use their Constitutional powers to control the imperial Obama. There is not a single iota of evidence to show that they will not submit to Hillary...the first female president. Fear of media has become part of their genetic makeup.

If Obama shredded the Constitution, Hillary will finish the job by burning the shreds. A couple of "living document"/ignore FF intent liberal judges will end our great experiment. As it is, state legislatures have become irrelevant as the SCOTUS has shown it can dictate the law of the land.

From: HA/KS
30-Jun-16

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From the link:

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is stressing his bona fides as a dealmaker who'd be able to enter the White House and work with congressional Democrats to hammer out agreements.

"I think I'm going to be able to get along with Pelosi – I've always had a good relationship with Nancy Pelosi," Trump said Tuesday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," referring to the House minority leader.

Trump said he thought he'd get along with "just about everybody," including Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), likely to be the next Senate Democratic leader, who Trump said he was "close to ... in many in ways."

From: gflight
30-Jun-16
"Sadly, toomany conservatives cannot understand that they are and always have been a minority faction of the Republican Party."

I guess I was hard headed and thought a conservative could get elected because of tea party and other groups, i was clearly wrong.

It was obvious that the uneducated reality show politics crowd wants nothing to do with conservatism and following the Constitution.

Whatever they are fed that makes them feel good is all they want.....

From: slade
30-Jun-16

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GOP Elite is More Hostile to Donald Trump Than to Hillary Clinton

No matter what Donald Trump does, he can’t win over the GOP’s establishment — precisely because his revival of Abe Lincoln’ and Teddy Roosevelt’s economic nati0nalism is energy for the party’s voters and also poison for the establishment’s donors. “The G.O.P. Waits, and Waits, for Donald Trump to Grow Up,” was the uncomprehending headline in the New York Times. The article, written by Nicolle Wallace, laments that GOP donors should be writing big checks by now and that Republicans leaders are anxiously awaiting for the arrival of “statesman” Trump.

Wallace recognizes the economic disagreement, but can’t see the politics. According to Wallace, Trump’s economic policies are an accident, a sign of incompetence. When the presumptive nominee pushes those policies – like he did in Pennsylvania – he actually “veers off course with an unscripted utterance on a morning news program.” But to people outside the established media, it means that Trump will not become a political Stepford wife in the mold of Paul Ryan, and that spells trouble for the GOP puppeteers.

Some scoff and say this is just the New York Times being the New York Times, it echoes the puzzled confusion in the GOP’s ivory tower. Just on Sunday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell echoed the sentiment of his boy wonder in the House – Speaker Ryan – and lobbed a passive aggressive jab at his party’s nominee.

When asked on ABC’s “This Week” whether Trump was qualified to be President – a softball question for a Republican Senate Majority Leader – McConnell meekly responded, “I’ll leave that to the American people to decide.” McConnell refused to say whether his party’s nominee was fit for the Oval Office.

Floundering Sen. Marco Rubio – Trump’s primary opponent who pledged to support the GOP nominee – also refused to say his nominee was qualified. When asked by CBS’s John Dickerson if Trump had the character and judgement to be Commander in Chief, Rubio responded, “That’s what I’m going to watch now.” Hardly a supportive comment.

Amid louder calls for the Trump campaign to become more establishment, and growing demands that Trump become more pliable to the Republican ruling class, we must remember the old guard of the GOP does not want Trump to win. They want Trump to crash and burn because only if Trump is humiliated then they can send Trump – and his movement – back to the gulags.

But wouldn’t a Hillary win likely mean a Democrat takeover of the House & Senate? Yes, but it is a calculated risk many in the GOP are willing to take.

If Trump loses – and loses big – the GOP leadership may be banished to minority status on the Hill, but such a ban would be temporary. After two years of Hillary, the GOP top brass would bemoan the horrors of Hillary. They would beg the grassroots to give them one more chance to stop Hillary in hopes of another 1994 or 2010.

But even if that happens, we know that Ryan and McConnell would be pushing another GOP con. Both men worked with Barack Obama to plot passage of the Trans Pacific Partnership. Both men capitulated on budget proposal after budget proposal. And both men would be the wings to Hillary’s hawk in foreign intervention across the globe.

But what happens if Trump wins? The GOP as Ryan, McConnell, and the donor class knows it, changes.

Gone are the free trade deals that have funneled trillions into the bank accounts of Wall Street donors — and millions of dollars into GOP fund-raising accounts — at the expense of blue collar paychecks.

Gone is the open door that allows cheap labor (and potential terrorists) to cross the border at-will. Gone are the unnecessary wars that serve no vital U.S. interest other than to bankrupt the nation.

The GOP elite will never support Trump because their pursuit of power has caused them to be more aligned the other establishment team — Hillary’s Democrats — than with Trump’s Republicans. The GOP elite could survive a Hillary win, but odds of surviving a Trump win are far less.

For this reason Trump must resist any attempt to curry favor or support from this cabal of con artists. That is not to say he must routinely attack them, but it is to say he needs to keep a ten-foot pole handy. This is Trump’s election to lose and, if he does, it will not be because Hillary beat him; it will be because of the danger that came from within.

But there is no need to let the establishment foxes into the hen house. Trump, thanks to historic support from the GOP rank and file, has the Republican elite exactly where he wants them.

Trump is calling the shots. The notion that he should follow the failed advice of those who refuse to say he is qualified to be president only makes sense inside the Beltway; it only makes sense if undermining Trump is the ultimate goal.

And, as the old Green Beret slogan goes, “If you got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.” Now is not the time for Trump to loosen the grip – there is too much at stake.

From: TD
30-Jun-16
So exactly what is Trumps platform WRT "climate change" and the government control and taxes that many want to initiate? Would he really do anything different? Or worse?

Has he actually come out as opposing any of it? As a NYC liberal what exactly do you think he will do? I know what he has said about it in the past.... same as wanting tighter gun control... he parrots the NYC Elitists and goes with the flow.

Such an outsider... golfing buddies with Boehner... that bastion of Egop opposition..... what people will swallow...un. real.

From: itshot
30-Jun-16
here's to hoping the winner has the USA at heart and intends to uphold the law, not just drift in the global wind

From: slade
30-Jun-16

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