"Forgive me conservative friends, I love you dearly, but Donald Trump --**** you and the political porn pony you rode in on. You are a liar. You are a bigot. You are a cheat. You are a manipulator. Nothing -- NOTHING -- short of resurrecting Hitler could be worse for this country. You bilked students through your "university" and you dare talk about education. You who have been married multiple times are no one to speak of family values. You lie. You cheat. You treat the future of our country like some stupid *** reality TV show. Nothing has sickened me like what I have heard this week. Wake up America!"
I can't decide which is a worse case scenario:
A. He is so unpalatable that a democrat gets elected.
B. He gets elected and governs like a leftist, but conservatives get blamed for it, permanently killing any chance for America to actually turn back to its roots.
Hey Trump Cheerleader, don't act like you're an innocent bystander.
YOU will just as responsible for her getting elected as anyone at the DNC convention.
The disaffected need to break programming, however, and honestly acknowledge and philosophically dispense with their own fascistic impulses. That may be an insurmountable hurdle.
As I move up, at what point do my principles become guidelines, or up for sale?
We're fed shit sandwich after shit sandwich and some of you folks can't understand we're done eating shit sandwiches. MCain, Romney, Trump.... WTF is wrong with you people? We keep lowering the bar for what is acceptable. And the best part is....some folks on here that I USED to respect, denigrate, mock, call names, to those that hold fast to what is true, what is right, what is moral, what is PRINCIPLED.
You vilify Cruz because he doesn't get along with the very same politicians YOU claim are the problem. I swear you can't make this shit up. We want a conservative!! We want a conservative!! We want a conservative!! That was the cry, A constitutional conservative. And you nominate Hillary-Lite. Thanks, thanks one helluva lot.
Keyes was really the only choice we had in 2008, besides whackadoodle Ron Paul. I think Fred Thompson would have been great, but either he didn't really want it, or was getting sick.
Santorum was screwed by Newt in 2012, with Ron Paul in the background.
Absolutely no excuse this cycle. Cruz, Rubio, Rand Paul, Fiorina, any of them would have been a vast improvement.
God Bless Brothers!
Scar.
Doing nothing is not an option (if you refuse to pick, one of them will be crammed down your throat). You have to make a choice,, live with it, take responsibility for it, make the best of it, and try like hell to make sure that the next time there will be more acceptable choices.
We have the choices that we have, if everyone who disliked Trump but disliked Hillary even more voted for Gary Johnson, Hillary would be elected overwhelmingly. Do some of you guys see that as a win since Trump would go down in defeat but the Libertarian Party would at least get into the debates?
Perhaps some people actually think Gary Johnson can win, or you don't think Hillary would be as bad as I do. Or perhaps you believe that this country will be just fine after 4 or 8 more years like the last 8. And that a proper Conservative can fix it after that. I'm at a loss to understand your position on this given where we are today, with THESE choices.
And what Owl said. I was completely shocked when the conservative base, which I felt was a building movement... just disappeared. The principles, ethics, morals of conservatism just evaporated. All the talk was just just that. Talk.
It was a great lesson to me. "Self Identified" anything means nothing.... just an ego/facebook thing, a prop. Because that "self" will "identify" as something else on a whim.... or convenience. Trust. Commitment. There is very little commitment to anything as it may involve discomfort or denial of some kind.
Now reality sinks in and there are now 2 nominees, none of which you approve of. So you are left with the 3 choice's- Trump, Clinton, or Cowardice! Which way will you go?
Hmmmm....maybe...just MAYBE he got to be where he is because...now brace yourself...
MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM OVER THE OTHERS!
Reality can be a real b*tch, huh?
And there's more bad news...REALLY bad news. Brace yourself again....
If you think THAT reality was a b*tch, you have a reality coming at you now at a really fast pace that's going to make the first one pale by comparison, and that's HELLARY CLINTON becoming POTUS and putting a majority of progressive commie/libs on the SCOTUS.
That will make the perceived "being fed" of this election seem like child's play compared to the outright forced sodomization that will occur to us and our children when what's left of our freedoms are taken from us by a SCOTUS totally devoid of the rule of law and any respect for the Constitution.
Wake up. The Dems rule our lives, our children's lives and our future BECAUSE they lack conscience and integrity. You fight fire with fire and then once extinguished we can be a piddler of good deeds to our hearts desire and gallop around on our white horse.
Until then the remedy for self aggrandizement and squeaky clean living has us all covered in mud living under the boot of liberalism. "Some" will not lower their self proclaimed uppity values even for the sake of their country as if it will be engraved in CAPS on their headstone.
Stopping Clinton is the only thing that should be on the lips and minds of every conservative. Once achieved scream your lungs out for everyone in the world to have your values. See how far that gets you. I imagine some here has led a life of pure integrity and clean conscience and have been proud of everything they have done in their life, and have never compromised their own values for any reason. Sell that to CNN because I am not buying that BS.
Everyone born has sinned and will continue to if the moment and circumstances presents itself. If you stand apart enter your name for Sainthood.
Wake the fuq up and stop Clinton. We have enough Saints.
The Rock
Rocky,
I understand that you don't understand. Anyone who questions the value of, or simply doesn't naturally hold conscience, integrity, honor, character, and morals in the highest regard, wouldn't understand.
There are precious few things in this world that I am willing to sacrifice any or all of those things for. Donald Trump, who I think views many of these things much like you, isn't one of them. The republican party isn't either. Nor is control of the supreme court. And sadly, neither is this country I live in. While I am confident that I would be willing to give my life to defend it, those things are bigger, and more important than my life. You don't have to understand it to know that this is what I believe. Doubt it if you'd like, ridicule and demean it if you must.
Folks like you, and the republican party want to pretend like they are asking this of you for the first time, and that it will never happen again. But you and I both know we'll be back here in 4 years with people making the same arguments, won't we?
In truth, it is only justified because hey, you sacrificed your principles and integrity 4 years ago, didn't you? And wasn't it you, 4 years before that who knew that McCain didn't represent your views on almost anything, but you sucked it up and punched the ticket for him anyway?
In the end, we have to do what we think is right. I don't think it is right to ask me to sacrifice my integrity and principles yet again for a candidate, party, and people who have no intention of sacrificing a thing to preserve the things I hold dear.
When the SCOTUS is packed with progressive liberals who'll IGNORE the Constitution you may as well wipe your as....um, I mean...eyes with principles.
Remember..we are fighting an enemy (and make NO mistake, they are the enemy every bit as much as ISIS is, and maybe worse) who has ZERO principles. She/they have already on most every issue demonstrated that they no regard for the Constitution, rule of law, your freedom to speak and just about everything we hold dear as Americans.
I simply cannot make it any plainer than that. If you don't get it now then you never will.
I truly believe that this our last chance before the only option left is bloodshed. I DO NOT want it to come to that.
They also do not tell a person to always seek safety or path or least resistance.
lion's den
fiery furnace
cross
Does anyone honestly think we aren't going to have to fight, bleed, and die if we ever want to live and enjoy the liberty given to us by God? You are fooling yourself.
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"Talk about melodramatic."
Talk about forgetting our own history.
I won't be shamed or coerced into voting for someone who would not be welcome in my home. The ultimate Washington insider, the epitome of "The Establishment" and you're hanging your hope n change on that? Like I said you can't make this shit up.
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Sorry all, for going off topic.
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This your sentence can cut both ways if applied honestly from their view point. You can't let the most agressive and brutal have free run of the world, and not expect them to show up on your doorstep eventually.
But I just pray to God that it won't have to come to that. The ship has been broadsided and is taking on water but it hasn't sunk.......yet.
That didn't seem to be Trump's message the other night. His message seemed to be "America Sucks, and I Alone can fix it!"
"As I move up, at what point do my principles become guidelines, or up for sale?"
Feel free to mock, be condescending, call me butt-hurt or a myriad of other names. It's sure fire way to win friends and influence others.
When Hellary puts more Sotomayors, Kagans and Ginsburgs on the court then principles will have about as much consideration as a fart in the wind.