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Tha Race is Now a Dead Heat!
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NvaGvUp 26-Sep-16
NvaGvUp 26-Sep-16
Bowfreak 26-Sep-16
Coyote 65 26-Sep-16
Glunt@work 26-Sep-16
Bowfreak 26-Sep-16
LINK 26-Sep-16
M.P. 26-Sep-16
Shuteye 26-Sep-16
woodguy65 26-Sep-16
NvaGvUp 26-Sep-16
Shuteye 26-Sep-16
NvaGvUp 26-Sep-16
TSI 26-Sep-16
TSI 26-Sep-16
NvaGvUp 26-Sep-16
Stalker 26-Sep-16
HA/KS 26-Sep-16
HA/KS 26-Sep-16
Rocky 26-Sep-16
Anony Mouse 26-Sep-16
Shuteye 26-Sep-16
NvaGvUp 26-Sep-16
Amoebus 30-Sep-16
From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-16

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As Trump gains in key (and unexpected) states, FiveThirtyEight now calls the race as essentially a dead heat. This is the closest they've had Trump since right after the GOP convention and is a big jump for him in just the past few days.

A new CNN poll in PA has the Witch From Hell up by just one point there, while their CO poll has Trump up by one point. These were supposed to be "Safe Dem" states!

According to the RCP averages, Trump leads the WFH in FOUR states Obama won in 2012: Ohio, Florida, Iowa and Nevada. He trails by just a smidgeon in PA and CO and is trailing only slightly in several other states Obama won handily.

Something's going on here and what it is is becoming clear.

From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-16

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In FiveThirtyEight's 'Now Cast' forecast of

"Who would win the election if it were held today?", Trump has a reasonable lead!

From: Bowfreak
26-Sep-16

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From: Coyote 65
26-Sep-16
This could all change tomorrow and probably will.

Terry

Won't feel confident until Trump is beyond the margin of fraud.

Terry

From: Glunt@work
26-Sep-16
Hillary has to be facing turnout issues with average Democrat folks. They are wrong on issues and the role of government but many are decent folks that certainly see Hillary for what she is.

From: Bowfreak
26-Sep-16
Glunt,

I can honestly say....I am not sure I have read anything you have posted in the past that I can't agree with.

I think you are 100% correct again.

From: LINK
26-Sep-16
"Dead Heat" pun excused.

From: M.P.
26-Sep-16
How many percentage points will Trump have to pick up to allow for the voter fraud and cheating by the democrats so he can still win?

From: Shuteye
26-Sep-16
I was reading some material about who wins debates. The experts normally don't pick the winner. Polls done after debates show that the people viewing the debates have entirely different ideas about who won than the experts. If Trump doesn't shoot himself in the foot the debate is his to lose.

From: woodguy65
26-Sep-16
Good questions M.P. - he will need a landslide.

From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-16
I think the cheat factor might be as high as 5%-6% in some areas, esp. those big cities that are run by the left at the behest of the union thugs.

That's certainly true in Las Vegas, IMO, given that the unions roll hundreds of chartered busses up to the casinos on election day and bus thousands of unionized casino workers (many of whom are not eligible to vote) to the polls.

Fortunately, that cheating is somewhat offset in the rest of Nevada, where our elections and vote counting seem to be honest.

Never-the-less, there is a cheat factor and any GOP candidate needs a cushion of at least a few % in those cities and states.

From: Shuteye
26-Sep-16
Romney didn't get a single vote in Philly, not one vote yet the Republicans let it slide.

From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-16
Shuteye,

That is not correct. As I recall, Romney getting zero votes was limited to a precinct or two.

That's hardly the same as not getting "a single vote in Philly..."

From: TSI
26-Sep-16
Trump or a felon.Cant imagine anyone thinks giving Hillary access to gov secrets is smart!At least Trump can keep secrets secret.

From: TSI
26-Sep-16
Lewenski and flowers front row??

From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-16
According to a new Gravis poll, Trump and Clinton are now tied at 43% each in Minnesota, of all places!

Minnesota!

From: Stalker
26-Sep-16
Sean Smiths mother front row!!!

From: HA/KS
26-Sep-16
I have little faith that it is a dead heat. The chances are about as great that she is in heat.

Trump could easily be up by 10. The question is how many "swing" states are up for grabs.

So many voters have not committed to a candidate because neither is exactly inspiring leadership material. I believe that hilary will win none of them.

From: HA/KS
26-Sep-16
I heard today that one problem is that both candidates qualify as a "pig in a poke." With trump, voters don't know what he really will do if elected.

And hilary is a pig in a sack

From: Rocky
26-Sep-16
I remain unconvinced, no matter what the experts may say, that this debate between these two very different and diametrically opposed candidates have undecided voters awaiting to be won over.

This election you are either Trump, Clinton or a Spectator. Someone leaning one way or the other can be wooed into your fold if your vision varies slightly. Not so this time. You are all in or all out. You have one candidate with a vision and the other walking around blind without a cane.

How can anyone be on the fence?

The Rock

From: Anony Mouse
26-Sep-16

From: Shuteye
26-Sep-16
NvaGvUp, in 2012 Romney got 0 votes in 59 voting divisions in Philly. I realize that democrats outnumber Republicans 20 to 1 in Philly but I find it hard to believe that one Republican didn't vote for Romney.

From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-16

From: Amoebus
30-Sep-16
The same site now has Clinton @67%, Trump = 33%.

If those numbers hold, it will be considered one of the worst debates (and subsequent tweets) in presidential history.

Like a misbehaving 13 year old, someone needs to take away his phone. (Or, shoot it, like the frustrated father did to his daughters laptop...)

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