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From the link:

President-elect Donald Trump vowed to rebuild the country’s infrastructure on the campaign trail -- but a closer look at his $1 trillion proposal to give the nation’s highways, bridges and railways a makeover shows the freshman politician faces a rough road of his own with members of the GOP.

The Rock

"As usual, no rebuilding jobs for the working/middle class."

Curious? I'd like your definition of the above. Please include the wage range as well.

"As usual, no rebuilding jobs for the working/middle class."

**2ND Request**

Curious? I'd like your definition of the above. In case you're being intentionally obtuse, please define "working/middle class".

The working class is sometimes views as a layer of society below the middle class, but in America's heyday the working class -- the blue collar industries -- were and in cases still are members of the middle class. You may have heard some idle talk that many of these workers have been displaced by mechanization and globalism. At least two of the recent contenders for the Presidential nomination made some mention of this fact. One of them is now president. Will he bring these jobs back? How will he pay for them when Congress is determined not to raise taxes? Have the people who voted for him based on this promise been had, yet again? We shall see.

You mentioned jobs for the "working/middle class". I asked you to define what that class is, including wage scale.

We always here about the "working class". Define it. I thought THAT was self explanatory.

Whether we will be successful doing this is the question...JMO

So middle class is up to $75,000 year. Any thing over is upper class? I'm past that. I work 50 hours per week not including what I take home, including this holiday weekend.

I D-E-S-P-I-S-E the term "working class", as though those of us that have made good decisions, busted our asses, continued to gain skills and provide value to our companies, been promoted, are just coasting on the backs of the "workers". I worked damn hard to get where I am, and continue to do so.

The 35K-75K range is just where the middle incomes fall. Those over 75K and below 100K are sometimes labelled "upper middle class" and those over 100 of so "affluent" -- because everyone knows they are not The Upper Class as it is usually understood.

>>>I D-E-S-P-I-S-E the term "working class"<<<

Me too, because it seems to differentiate between manual workers and desk jockeys, as if one were innately superior to the other. That's why I joined it with "middle" above. There may be some who think managers, foremen, supervisors etc are coasting on the backs of workers, but I am not one of them.

You might find this article interesting.

https://www.upress.umn.edu/press/press-clips/harvard-business-review-what-so-many-people-don2019t-get-about-the-u-s-working-class

>>>You "build" jobs for the middle class by creating an environment that business can flourish in.<<<

Yes, that's the ideal. But in our present situation the forces of globalization and mechanization have caused such disruption that it doesn't seem likely to end of itself. I think it calls for more intervention by government, as did he Great Depression.

Which the government managed to prolong as long as possible.

https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-so-many-people-dont-get-about-the-u-s-working-class

Sooooo, we need politicians, most of whom have never worked outside of politics, never met payroll, never invested their lifeblood into a business, telling us how to create jobs with their "intervention"? Da phuc.....

Thanks to FDR the Great Depression was extended for years, not shortened by his socialist policies.

If you have a booming economy, that creates the need, motivation and funds to build great infrastructure to move goods, services and people faster and more efficiently.

If you drive across a private ranch in Wyoming on a properly engineered and maintained gravel road, its because there is an oil well at the end of it.

Businesses succeeding is priority #1. Infrastructure will parallel that success with occasional leap frogs as the desire and funds to build it drive it. Once that is in place, we then have the means to fund all the other stuff like charity, poetry, art, philosophy, etc.

Two farmers each have a goose that lays golden eggs. One farmer takes the first clutch of eggs and builds a pond, a nesting area and buys an expensive golden gander. Two years later he had 10 geese laying golden eggs and each of his children has one.

The other farmer spent his first clutch building a grand home for himself and buying each of his kids a sports car. Two years later the goose wasn't thriving with no pond and no company. It didn't lay eggs that spring. By Thanksgiving they had no money for food so they ate the goose.

And we really wonder why things are crumbling?

I hope that in less than two years he has my full confidence. The second part is 100% true, which is why it is important to not think the citizens (and others living here) of nation have somehow suddenly turned from the leftist path.