The buck stops somewhere with this ______...
"President Trump told reporters Wednesday he did not "specifically" authorize the mission in Niger that left four soldiers dead, as he gave a wide-ranging impromptu press conference outside the White House with reporters before departing for Dallas."
They arrived in early 2013 to help the French military that had intervened in neighboring Mali the year before. The French had moved into Mali after an Al Qaeda affiliated group and tribal groups took over the vast northern part of the country and were moving toward the capital of Mali. As part of the U.S. effort to assist that mission then-President Barack Obama ordered 150 U.S. military personnel to set up a surveillance drone operation over Mali that would fly from Niger's capital of Niamey.
Sorry gflight but this is cherry picked and taken out of context...as is usually the case with MSM reporting.
They conveniently left out the "I have generals that are great generals, these are great fighters, these are warriors. I gave them authority to do what's right so that we win. That's the authority they have....My generals and my military, they have decision making ability" part.
I would hope we never have a CIC that micromanages to the point that he must give specific authority for every movement the military makes. That's the quickest way to lose wars.
We anxiously await your response.
What's the matter, JTV, couldn't you put it in your own words instead of plagiarizing ABC News?
And I agree, this is pho-outrage puked up by the left.
We anxiously await your response."
A critical thinker would know, based on what I did say, I didn't need to.
Ironically, the fact that you would even have to ask that question shows you are lacking in that area.
Would you like to spin again?
What is the minimum range of an excuse?
He did you just missed it. Then I provided him with info and he will get back with me in turn. It's how the process works....
Are you really so stupid that you think the CIC is "specifically authorizing" what a 4 man recon team is doing in Niger? I guess you are based on your posts.
If you want to bitch about Trump go ahead, but try to find something remotely legitimate.
I guess that depends on how you interpret what he said, and whether or not you are looking for a gotcha in his statement.
The way I see it, his statements, taken together, basically say (paraphrasing) "while I didn't specifically give the direct order, I allow my generals and my military to make the decisions necessary to win." Which basically means the buck stops with him...unless of course you are looking for the gotcha headline.
As I said before, I prefer the CIC leave military operational decisions to the military experts. I've never been a soldier but I have to believe that if I were, I wouldn't want it any other way. This appears to be what Trump is doing.
"I gave them authority to do what's right so that we win. That's the authority they have....
No. You are stupid for interpreting it that way and trying to project it to me. I am saying he is responsible and he needs to man up to that fact.
Big boys are talking....Go away..
Most of the news sources lay it out worse than Breitbart does below....
"When reporters asked if he authorized the mission Trump replied, “No, I didn’t. Not specifically.”
Referring to the attack in Niger, Trump confirmed that he was just learning about the details like the rest of America.
“I’ve been seeing it just like you’ve been seeing it,” he said.
He pivoted to praising his “great generals” in charge of fighting terrorism.
Trump confirmed that he gave them broad authority to win the war against ISIS, including in Africa.
“I gave them authority to do what’s right so that we win,” he said. “I want to win, and we’re going to win, and we’re beating ISIS very badly.”"
Your paraphrase is subjective and I am not finding a transcript. I will keep looking and if someone can find please post.
From my point of view, without new information I stand with my initial interpretation that he was doing like a Democrat and denying responsibility like a draft dodger would.
Funny how if this had been Zero (0bama) most of you partisan posters would be going ape-shiz over it along with me.....
I'm not sure why you'd need a transcript, I posted the video of the full exchange. Like I said, taken in full context, it makes total sense to me. Just the way I would expect the CIC to act. But then again, I don't have an agenda in terms of finding a "gotcha" headline. If the CIC had to specifically give authorization for every military action, our troops would be paralyzed.
This is why I seldom accept the reporting of what someone said, whether it comes from a right leaning source or a left leaning source. It is rarely, if ever, complete or in context. Often times what is reported it is actually counter to the actual meaning of what was said. I trust my own eyes, ears, and deductive reasoning more than any "news" source.
BLUF from my perspective.
His bone spurs must have been acting up....
Giving Generals the authority is authorizing the mission. If it went well he would take credit quick.
When he took credit for Jobs that were already in play. HE took credit, he didn't explain anything or credit anyone.
He was setting up a scapegoat to throw someone under the bus.
Here is a good paraphrase of how I viewed the video....
"Even though I gave permission it wasn't my fault that the General made that decision."
Just like Hilliary. She was running but blaming everyone but herself for her loss...
"If the CIC had to specifically give authorization for every military action, our troops would be paralyzed."
I have never said or alluded to this. All your perception....
LMAO! If I wanted advice it would be from someone with and IQ over 50. You keep digging your hole deeper. Everyone here but you understands that the POTUS is not, and should not be involved in the minutia of daily military decisions. A good leader, be it military or business understands you empower your leadership team to make the day to day decisions, support them and then stay out of the way. That's what Trump is doing. Of course you would not understand that as I doubt you have lead anything more than your own way to the outhouse.
Still waiting. No one under the bus. Wrong again gspot.
"Even though I gave permission it wasn't my fault that the General made that decision."
I have no doubt that is what you came away with...it's what you went in with.
Precisely why I don't trust the reporting of what was said, I want to hear and see it for myself and make my own conclusions.
I agree. Exhibited daily by more than one person on the CF.
Trump continues to be Trump! People trying to make news out of the way he addresses questions or criticism in a vague way with a lot of ego in his tone are barking up the wrong tree. It has worked for him for decades, won him Presidency and I doubt he is changing any time soon.
Plenty of things to criticize him about legitimately. I found his answer fine. I am sure he didn't specifically authorize that mission but he likely would have if he knew about it. We probably do dozens of similar operations daily all over the world and the President likely only knows the details of a handful. How he described it is what I expect and desire. Let the experts make the call on the ground, go hard after the enemy and recognize that its a tough job.
Read the post I made right above your last two.
Have a great day
I agree BK. However, when you examine what people say and write, in full context, you can get a pretty good idea as to how they feel.
It's pretty clear to me that when it comes to the military, Trump intends to grant authority to those that actually do the job, and then let them do it.
I want to see the "I" credit that POTUS Trump takes for a successful military action without giving credit for the men and women that performed that successful military action.
He does always give credit, absolutely. I have commented on that before. Must of been thinking of the guy that got Bin Laden...
/great leaders know how and when and who to delegate authority to. I believe we now have a flawed but really great leader who fits our situation and time perfectly. None of us are perfect in all respects but God has given this nation a huge gift and reprieve from the alternative. We should let this man do his job and pray for him and his cabinet and this nation every day.
God bless, Steve
If you could write above a third grade level we might understand what your point really is.
I've said this before but truly believe if Trump were to single handedly discover a cure for cancer, he would be criticized by many on the left for adversely affecting the pharmaceutical industry.
Had Trump said the following:
"The buck stops with me because NOTHING happens militarily without my specific authorization."
The criticism would have been harsh and quick calling him a megalomaniacal wannabe general.
Wow. Here we go again. Did you read that somewhere or is this theory your own concoction?
Thinking like this, and dissemination of same, is part and parcel of why nothing can be said or done, by anyone, without someone coming up with some nefarious motivation for it, and some conspiracy theory as to how they are trying to cover it up.