Trump helps Repubs lose VA & NJ
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"Voter analysis found that Trump was an important factor for more than one third (38 percent) of voters, and those folks broke for Northam by a 39-point margin."
"The president’s role in campaigns will clearly continue to be a critical issue as we approach the 2018 midterm elections."
Oooo......a POLL! It must be true then! Just ask President Hillary!
BS. Republicans in Congress are responsible for the Republican loss. Trump will win again.
Mark it down.
Regardless of what lefties think, he is what people want, not milquetoast Republicans.
Actually, WW... my first post was taken directly from a Fox News story. My second post was taken directly from a Fox News opinion.
I switched over to Fox News to watch Hannity when the results came in last night... there was nothing there... not even scrolling across the bottom. Guess it was a tough night for Sean. LOL
Yes, and they're still POLLS, and OPINION. And they were/are WRONG. Even Fox. I put very little faith or credence in polls anymore. Most all of them are just clickbait.
Virginia has been blue for years. Nothing new about Northam winning.
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We have suffered from Kaine as Gov. and Senator for a decade now.
Nothing new.
Ostrich Syndrome is strong in here.
Face it, guys... if Trump doesn't change his BEHAVIOR, he will become the Democrats biggest advantage in the mid-term elections.
General Kelly has his work cut out for him.
This ostrich syndrome you speak of......if this the same affliction that was present on election day evening a year ago when the networks were still saying Hillary would win as late as 9 pm?
Or does this only apply to the party you oppose?
If Trump changes his behavior he will become a Democrat
Exactly Tiger Eye. Congress is the problem, not Trump. Trump has done his best to implement his agenda. The hacks in congress have done their best to stop it. So far, they have won nearly every time.
Trump will be POTUS 8 years.
Both States went for Hilliary whats your point??
Meanwhile, had Gillespie won, everyone e here would crowing about Trumpism and maga! A wave is coming. It’s anti trump. It’s diverse and you’re going to hate it. Mark that down.
Jimbo, I hope you and the democrats continue to think that way since you will surely lose. The New Jersey voters are complete idiots since this fool wants to give more pension giveaways even though the state is effectively bankrupt due to pension debt. Going to be real amusing when it all hits the fan.
The state of jersey is a mess because of Christie. He borrowed money from the state pension system, Never replaced it and yet he’s a fiscal conservative? Nice try though.
Woodsie,
It wasn't a poll. It was an election.
No doubt the dems will take both houses of Congress in 2018. Then everyone will see the fallacy of the dem platform and how clueless they really are.
Mark it down.
The current repubs in there have learned well how to be political hacks and clueless about most everything thanks to the last 8 years of stupidity.
No doubt, Christy hosed himself in NJ.
And, Dems have won the majority of elections in Virginia for decades. No news there.
But, it's Trump's fault, lol! Jimbo, you sound more like a libtard every day. Care to take a bet on the midterms Congressional elections?
It’s not Trumps fault. The Libs were just more motivated after the ass kicking they took a year ago. Republicans are less motivated because they see thier candidates are really lib lite.
You guys talk like it's Bama vs Auburn. What most of us want is fixes to healthcare, the tax system, and continued job creation. While not spiraling the debt, killing innovation or ruining the planet. I don't care if its Conservative (Mitt Romney, Kasich, Bushes-btw guys I identify with), Democrats (yep, don't care if Crooked Hillary fixed it, I'd still be happy) or Reality TV Republicans (Trump, some of you guys). It's about the issues for some of us. But that would take you looking at the individual's positions and learning about them in some amount of depth; and you'd have to determine the type of person they are based on past conduct (Bill Clinton, Trump). That's harder than screaming about how terrible the other side is, and makes the discussion a whole lot more complicated.
Nice try, but the reality is unless the Democrats follow the Pelosi/Tom Perez, etc, hard left agenda, they become ostracized, and can't even get their phone calls returned.
The only hope to get out of this socialist spiral is to elect Republicans, which may be unfortunate, but it's what you have.
The story in Virginia is simple: Democrat wins state overwhelming populated by Democrats. No different than "Republican wins in Oklahoma."
And NM will be have a dem for its next gov'r as well - no surprise there as it is a gateway to DACA recipients...
"so Dems won in two state that are bastions of Democrat stupidity and ignorance ?"'
"And, Dems have won the majority of elections in Virginia for decades. No news there."
""The story in Virginia is simple: Democrat wins state overwhelming populated by Democrats. "
Really??????? You folks may want to do some checking.
Virginia Presidential Elections: 1968 to 2016 - 10 Republican, 3 Democrat
Virginia State Senate Elections: 1996 to 2016 - 5 Republican, 1 Democrat
Virginia State House Elections: 2000 to 2016 9 Republican, 0 Democrat
Virginia Gubernatorial Elections: 1994 to 2014 -3 Republican, 3 Democrat
Nobody gives a damn about 1994 or 2000. It's what Virginia looks like now, and it's heavily democratic. This is like talking about how good the San Francisco 49ers were in 2010.
"Nobody gives a damn about 1994 or 2000." You hear that JTV and elkmtngear?
Heavily democratic my a$$. Virginia legislature is Republican-controlled. There's more to the dynamics of elections within Virginia than folks on the other side of the U.S. are aware of.
Who was the prior governor? The despicable Terry McAuliffe. We're talking about statewide elections here, not some safe districts.
The heavily populated districts near DC overwhelm the rest of the state. It's similar to Colorado where the Front Range dictates what happens.
But you can go rely on the past. By gosh, even the Cleveland Browns were good once.
"The heavily populated districts near DC overwhelm the rest of the state. "
No sheet Sherlock. Those heavily populated districts near DC that you referred to just didn't become the controlling factor in elections, they've been that way for decades. Even when Republicans were being voted in. I guess there must have been a mass exodus of Republicans out of the state and an equally massive exodus of Democrats into Virginia. But according to you, this isn't about the past, nor is it about any negative impact from the current political attitude of the Virginia electorate, so what other irrational ideas ya got?
"Nobody gives a damn about 1994 or 2000." You hear that JTV and elkmtngear?
To reinforce my point...go back to 1982, then count. 7 Dems, 3 Republicans.
Amazing how you can selectively cut and paste, to make a point, right?
Dave, if all you have is claiming I'm irrational, you're not worth talking to.
"It's similar to Colorado where the Front Range dictates what happens"
Rio Grande corridor in the 'Land of Entrapment'...
I doubt if Trump helped with this.
"Dave, if all you have is claiming I'm irrational, you're not worth talking to."
If you want to duck the issue by twisting my words, that's fine, but there's a mighty big difference between calling someone's ideas irrational, and calling the individual irrational.
And elkmntgear, I suggest you talk to Bad Karma about past elections in Virginia...he's got some pretty strong feelings regarding those past statistics. According to him, those stats are as useless as stats regarding the Niners and the Browns.
Obama won in VA twice. This last election Clinton won the state with a HIGHER total than Obama. Yep, there's a solid bastion of republicans there, you betcha.........
The real story likely is that Gillespie was even given an outside shot at winning, he wasn't much of a candidate honestly. But appears he really didn't. And THAT is what you want to do a happy dance over?
Gosh, this is going to be a long sucky 4 years for you folks....... try to pace yourselves so as to drag it out as long as possible so you can fully appreciate the Hillary/Comey trials......
Gillespie was beltway bootlicking GOP swamp thing, no different the a democrat. The voters knew it and many on the right did not vote.
Trax is spot on.
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Gillispie could not even beat "Clinton" McCauliffe 4 years ago. Why would anyone expect he could beat a decent Doctor, Veteran, and Man?
Anyone thinking a Dem executive victory is, somehow, news in VA is living a few decades in the past. They are also woefully ignorant of how the NOVA tail wags the Old Dominion dog.
The story in VA is the stunning loss of GOP seats in the House of Delegates. That's the phenomenon that needs scrutiny. November 7th started with a 20+ GOP seat advantage and the 8th dawned a tie. Flabbergasting
You guys are world class when it comes to rationalizing a loss. LOL
The "Trump Cult" stories are becoming more believable by the day.
Owl's numbers are actually low. The GOP went into the election with 2-1 majority, 66 to 34, a 32 seat majority. The GOP have held the majority for almost 20 years, too. As of now Democrats have won 49 seats to GOP 47 seats, with 4 still too close to call. Stunning is a polite way to describe it.
https://ballotpedia.org/Virginia_House_of_Delegates_elections,_2017
Nice bit of bs analysis to fit your agenda, Jimbo. I'm not a Trump apologist nor a Trump cultist. Thank you for living down to my expectations.
Jimbo, if you've been around here more than 5 minutes- and you have- you know I am no fan of Trump.
MNRazorhead, thank you for correcting my numbers.
So jimbo. Why come on here? Why waste your time? 8^))
Bowfreak is right. The Republicrat leadership didn,t want Trump to win.
Neither party wants a candidiate that wont play their political machine game. I voted for Trump, as a Libertarian I hope for the best.
Our "do nothing" GOP majority is leaving Trump and republicans out to dry. Now, "conservatives" and the GOP are solely being defined by Trump's worst attributes which are ever-present and easily exploitable. He's just too easy a mark.
The story of VA is that the negatives on the GOP drove record numbers of dems to polls while republicans, wholly uninspired by Gillespie and the party, stayed home. A district in NOVA just unseated a 13 term delegate for a transgendered woman. What more proof is needed to know the media narrative is winning?
Jimbo is neither wrong nor right. Not completely.
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
Quote from Thomas Jefferson.
Advice relevant today in the USA.
Owl,
The Dems and DNC are also eating their own right now, as is Hollywood. Plenty of their own "worst attributes" are on display daily, in even the most Liberal media. Not going to do them any good in "Swing States" in Mid-Term elections.
Meanwhile, the Dollar is rising, more people are working. Jimbo was just waiting for any excuse to say "I told you so" (Trump will lead you to ruin)! Still butthurt that America didn't toss Trump in the dumpster and vote in the Witch.
My guess is he will still be waiting for that opportunity way past the Midterms.
It will take substantive policy improvements to negate the media narrative. That's not on Trump right now. The economy is ticking up and if people feel that enough, any incumbent will be tough to beat but the GOP will have to outperform the constant lies and misinformation campaign by the 4th body of American politics.. Tough task but
doable. Looking at you Congress.
Since the OP loves polls. Here is one from Politico....If voters had it to do over, Trump wins again and by a BIGGER margin!
#MAGA
For the record: "The Virginia electorate has been changing year after year, and moving further to the left. Approximately 40% of Northern Virginia residents are foreign-born. The current governor and the governor-elect restored voting rights to convicted felons. That added at least 156,000 potential new voters to the rolls who overwhelmingly vote Democrat." —Gary Bauer
"The current governor and the governor-elect restored voting rights to convicted felons".
Sounds like a California Clone. Jerry Brown is trying to do the same exact thing out here right now. Keeping those felons on the street means votes, so he's downgrading crimes to misdemeanors (to include deliberate transmission of HIV without notice), and On 28 September 2016, Brown signed Assembly Bill 2466, which allowed felons imprisoned in county jails to vote while still behind bars or under post-release monitoring.
Mark it down - Trump won't be our candidate in 2020. If he is, we suffer the biggest loss we have ever had.
The only thing that saves Trump is if we are at war but hoping that doesn't happen.
To those looking to last election - the odds of the DNC putting up such a poor candidate AND that candidate being tanked by a scathing FBI report the week before is almost 0%.
Trump could have been re-elected but his schtick is tiresome and his leadership is pathetic as almost no one wants to work for him. He imploded more than anything else. He's just a terrible leader.
2020 will be interesting.
Mouse, again I say that all voting should be done in person, on paper, and on election day.
You are as confused about the electorate as the establishment is Sage. Trump will be on the ballot and he will win again.
I wish his twitter account was deleted. Maybe the reason so many cabinet and administration people leave is because he demands way more from them than they are willing to do. Stock market value has increased by 2 Trillion dollars. How’s your 401ks doing?
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