Now, Trump appears to be back-peddling on that decision due to pressure from the anti-hunting crowd . He even called trophy elephant hunting a "horror show".
Is Trump a friend to hunters, or not?
Matt
I'm hoping he can get through to his Dad on this issue, most of us here (should) know the value of sport hunting revenue when it comes to managing African game.
I'm not saying that is good I'm just saying it is what it is. For this reason he will be wrong on a lot of issues. That sucks with regard to elephant hunting.
So, as long as he doesn't affect *your* preferred type of hunting, you don't care? That's kind of selfish and short-sighted, don't you think?
Do you think sport-hunting revenues help or hurt managing elephants in Africa?
Matt
Note that the article from Reuters which I saw posted on MSM.com, calls the Center for Biological Diversity a 'conservation organization.'
They are no such thing!
What the CBD actually is, is a law firm which preys on well-intended, but gullible people to give them money, then sues state wildlife agencies over almost anything those agencies try to do to support conservation.
Just ask any state DFW/DFG/DNR agency what the CBD does for conservation and everyone of them will tell you,"Nothing."
If only it were limited to 'nothing,' because the CBD and like-minded organizations are, in fact, the enemies of conservation. Because of their never ending lawsuits, state agencies spend millions upon millions of dollars to hire their own legal teams to defend REAL conservation.
That's millions upon millions of dollars wasted which could otherwise be spent on actual conservation!
And how do you think Trump sides on that issue?
Matt
Thanks for confirming you don't care about hunting policy that doesn't affect you.
Now, I'll wait for others with a less selfish and short-sighted opinion to respond.
Matt
"And how do you think Trump sides on that issue?"
Trump reversed Obama's ban, did he not?
Until that changes, I say "Good on him!"
Not from the reports I'm reading. His Fish and Wildlife Department made that decision. Now he's back-peddling on that decision.
I guess time will tell.
Matt
Thanks,
Matt
These are Trump's words:
"Big-game trophy decision will be announced next week but will be very hard pressed to change my mind that this horror show in any way helps conservation of Elephants or any other animal."
Does that sound like a man who hasn't made up his mind?
Matt
If I'm undecided on an issue, I don't call it a "horror show", pressure or not. You're mileage may vary.
Matt
In case you missed it, here's what Trump tweeted to the world of hunters:
"Big-game trophy decision will be announced next week but will be very hard pressed to change my mind that this horror show in any way helps conservation of Elephants or any other animal."
That not only implies conservation efforts for elephants are a horror show, but so are those efforts for all animals.
My original question remains...Is Trump a friend to hunters?
Matt
I can’t help but think of a few hard decisions Trump has made so far. He lets out that he is changing the policy. Then let’s out he isn’t. But in the end he has changed the policy. Let’s hope this corse of action holds threw with elephant conservation.
I think Bowfreak nailed it. Trump doesn't really care two chits about it. Very few things he really does. I think he went with his advisers facts and economic truths instead of anti hunter's unicorn farts initially.... then his female and metro-sexual family "advisors" got his ear.
Hopefully the facts and truth will win out.
Come Don Jr. talk to Papa.
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I find it full of folly that a guy who started a thread on baiting deer is trying to give others grief on their stance on elephant hunting.
LOL !
Gray Ghost's Link
In 2012, when pics of his sons posing with big game trophies circulated on twitter, Trump said, "Old story, one of which I publicly disapproved. My sons love hunting, I don't."
Is Trump a friend to hunters, or not?
Matt
Others here would turn in their bow while making excuses for Trump.
Far kin sad the ignorance shown on this thread....
God bless, Steve
"Big-game trophy decision will be announced next week but will be very hard pressed to change my mind that this horror show in any way helps conservation of Elephants or any other animal."
It is now November 28, and there has been no announcement. Perhaps one of you with a Twitter account could remind him.
Matt
bigeasygator's Link
CNN had a very thoughtful op-ed from a scientist working for a project under WildCRU — for those that don’t remember those were the Cecil the Lion research team. I didn’t see it posted on this thread and figured it was worth sharing. It’s always encouraging to me when the scientists of the world get it and weigh in.
It's sad.
Trump is a friend to many people who hunt. Certainly not all. When it comes to generalizations then the answer is yes he is much more friendly than the vast majority of progressives. Although, hunters as a group are likely much more independent in their ideology compared to the run of the mill partisan hacks of either party. Many in the hunting community have been recently conditioned to stand in one party in order to protect what they love the most. It is understandable as well as unfortunate that in order to protect ones ideology in a one area that others are not spoken of with the same honesty. Hunting, healthcare, theology, equality and political correctness are few areas that come to mind. It sucks that social media tends to seperate folks into us and them to further the agenda of the powers that be, while they couldn’t care less about those of us that work to support .... everything.
So to answer your question broadly. Yes.
Do you spend much time pursuing wild animals with the intent to kill them? Is trump good for you?
Far more time than I probably should.
Is trump good for you?"
With respect to hunting, I'm not sure, yet. He has stated he doesn't like hunting. And he implied that conservation efforts for elephants, or any other animal, are a "horror show".
He also caved to anit-hunting pressure and shelved the decision to rescind Obama's ban on elephant trophy imports. Now, he's tardy on his own stated schedule for making that decision.
So, my question remains.
Matt
I realize this isn't the most important decision Trump has on his plate, but he shouldn't tweet a schedule to the world, then ignore it.
Matt
