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Shuteye 03-Dec-17
JTV 03-Dec-17
trublucolo 03-Dec-17
Solo 03-Dec-17
JTV 03-Dec-17
JTV 03-Dec-17
jdee 03-Dec-17
Rocky 03-Dec-17
Ryan from Boone 03-Dec-17
Woods Walker 03-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
JTV 04-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 04-Dec-17
Whitey 04-Dec-17
Brotsky 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
JTV 04-Dec-17
Whitey 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
JTV 04-Dec-17
Jimbo 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
bigeasygator 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
JTV 04-Dec-17
Whitey 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 04-Dec-17
Whitey 04-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 04-Dec-17
NvaGvUp 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
JTV 04-Dec-17
Solo 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
Whitey 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
Whitey 04-Dec-17
Woods Walker 04-Dec-17
Gray Ghost 04-Dec-17
NvaGvUp 04-Dec-17
sleepyhunter 04-Dec-17
K Cummings 04-Dec-17
Whitey 04-Dec-17
sleepyhunter 04-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 05-Dec-17
K Cummings 05-Dec-17
Woods Walker 05-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 05-Dec-17
Thumper 06-Dec-17
Shuteye 06-Dec-17
K Cummings 06-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 06-Dec-17
From: Shuteye
03-Dec-17
Jacksonville : First NFL Team Declares Bankruptcy Over Kneeling Thugs. #ma4t

From: JTV
03-Dec-17
what happened to the GG crap... the NFL is doing fine ... ROFLMAO !!!

lets see how he spins this ....

From: trublucolo
03-Dec-17
link?

From: Solo
03-Dec-17

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Solo's Link
Are y'all sure about this? The only thing I can seem to find is an outdated story from April 01, 2016 that appears to be of somewhat questionable authenticity....

From: JTV
03-Dec-17

JTV's Link
well if it was from Spike, it would be discounted as conspiracy by GG ....

see link .... (fake news site, or real ?)

From: JTV
03-Dec-17

JTV's Link

From: jdee
03-Dec-17
I'd love it if it were true !!!! Hope so.

From: Rocky
03-Dec-17
The NFL would financially prop up any team until they were either sold or moved. The pall cast upon the league if a team filed for bankruptcy would be self destructive to the NFL brand. Bankruptcy is not a option it is prohibited.

The Rock

03-Dec-17
wishing it were so, doesn't make it so. The NFL will be fine,

From: Woods Walker
03-Dec-17
You mean like Hillery being predicted as the winner of the Presidential race right up until 9:00 PM on the night of the election?

From: BIG BEAR
04-Dec-17
Or like Trump promising to prosecute her.....

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
"DailyFlashNews.org"

Seriously?

KPC

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17
"what happened to the GG crap... the NFL is doing fine ... ROFLMAO !!! lets see how he spins this ...."

You got me there, JTV, it's pretty hard to spin fake news.

It is comical watching you and others take the bait on a April's fools joke that's over a year old, however. LOL!!

Matt

From: JTV
04-Dec-17
Hey pinhead...yea you GG ... look what I wrote above .....(fake news site.. or real ? ) no where did I say any of it was the truth ...sheesh !! .... your such a dweeb ... smh ...

From: BIG BEAR
04-Dec-17
There's a handful of guys here on the CF who are spending a lot of time tracking the demise of the NFL....... I am certain that the TV ratings and attendance has been affected by people boycotting the NFL due to players taking a knee during the anthem. In my opinion it is a big mistake for the NFL to allow its employees to carry out their political protest on the clock..... But if any of you guys who are putting forth any type of effort to track the ratings thinks that the NFL is going to fold and close shop and go out of business... you are fooling yourself.. If they can afford to donate 100 million dollars.... they can afford to weather this storm.... maybe at some point they will lose enough money that they will begin to suspend any player making political protests while they are working.....

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17

Gray Ghost's Link
Sept. 18, 2017

"The Jaguars have crossed the $2 billion mark in estimated valuation according to Forbes.

The publication’s annual rankings of NFL franchise values was revealed Monday and the Jaguars are 25th among the 32 teams at $2.075 billion.

Owner Shad Khan has nearly tripled his investment since he bought the Jaguars in 2012 for $770 million.

Tripled in 5 years. LMAO!!

Matt

From: BIG BEAR
04-Dec-17
And right now they are 8-4.....

From: Whitey
04-Dec-17
A critical think would know the difference between a businesses value and its operational profitability. One can have zero to do with the other. Examples Tesla, Amazon, Uber

From: Brotsky
04-Dec-17
Fake news only has a footing if people are gullible enough to believe it.....and repost it!

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
"Fake news only has a footing if people are gullible enough to believe it.....and repost it!"

Yep. Same is true for responding to internet trolls. You'd think people would learn after a while.

KPC

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17
Whitey,

I'm no accountant like you, so please explain how a football team's value can triple in 5 years without being profitable.

Matt

From: JTV
04-Dec-17
or one can repost just to hook the fish ... some like GG/KPC are an easy catch .... I just love watching them slobber over themselves ... its fun to watch ...

From: Whitey
04-Dec-17
GG it happens for lots of reasons but in the Nfl it's a combination of supply/demand and cheap money. Public companies it's usually stock price which may or may not include the balance sheet. Uber apple amazon are not priced based on thier returns and would sell at a premium based solely on brand value and upside potential .

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
"...it's pretty hard to spin fake news. "

That all depends on who you are GG. I've seen some people spin fake news into some pretty monumental a conspiracy theories.

KPC

From: JTV
04-Dec-17
Kinda like the Dems/#neverTrumpers and their Russia BS.... 'eh KPC ...

From: Jimbo
04-Dec-17
LOL... amusing thread.

The best part... JTV's links to DailyFlashNews.org... what a dolt.

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
"Kinda like the Dems/#neverTrumpers and their Russia BS.... 'eh KPC ..."

You bet, fake news is fake news.

Those who consume and believe on the left are just as mindless as those who consume and believe it on the right. Intellectually, they are two pees in a pod.

KPC

From: bigeasygator
04-Dec-17
Whitey, minor correction. A balance sheet says little about a company’s ongoing profitability (or lack thereof). That would come from an income statement (or statement of cash flows if you are measuring profitability by something like free cash flow instead of net income). But yes, a company’s value can increase even as it loses money. All depends on the market’s perception of that company’s ability to “make money” in the future.

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17

Gray Ghost's Link
Whitey,

In 2016, the team in question had $377 million in net revenues, operating income of $59 million (EBITDA), with a debt/value ratio of 4%.

That doesn't sound like a company on the verge of bankruptcy to me. How about you?

Matt

From: JTV
04-Dec-17
Jimbo, you lead the herd in the Dolt field ... what a maroon !! ... lol .. obviously you never read what I wrote either... just like GG ... and just like him, always coming to the wrong conclusions ...

From: Whitey
04-Dec-17
GG accept that you don’t know everything. I never once referenced the Jags going bankrupt. Any Fukin fool could see Shuteye was trolling the critical thinkers.

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
"Any Fukin fool could see Shuteye was trolling the critical thinkers."

Unfortunately, that's not what he caught.

:)

KPC

From: BIG BEAR
04-Dec-17
Shuteye was trolling ?? I must be one of your effing fools because I could have sworn that he posted it as a fact to help prove the plight of the NFL..... Why don't you admit that a bunch of the crap posted here is fake news.....

From: Whitey
04-Dec-17
Let’s let Shuteye answer for himself instead of the critical thinkers pretending they know everything.

From: BIG BEAR
04-Dec-17
Maybe you're the one acting like you know everything.... by saying that he intended to post false information just to troll critical thinkers.... ? Hmm

From: NvaGvUp
04-Dec-17
The first link on this thread was dated in early 2016.

That's months before anyone in the NFL 'took a knee.'

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17
"Let’s let Shuteye answer for himself instead of the critical thinkers pretending they know everything."

No pretending here, just facts. Unlike the original post, or your efforts to defend it.

Matt

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
"Maybe you're the one acting like you know everything.... by saying that he intended to post false information just to troll critical thinkers.... ? Hmm"

That's their new line BB. When the fake news or conspiracy theory du jour is proven to be bogus, they act like they knew it all along and they were just trolling the "critical thinkers."

They's just havin' some fun ya know...

KPC

From: JTV
04-Dec-17
Oh hell, you all are just poo poo heads .... :0)

From: Solo
04-Dec-17
I think it's been determined to have been a mistake. We should just leave it at that. Shuteye is a highly reputable man & esteemed member of our forum, so please don't attack him for it. He deserves our best replies and utmost understanding. He's earned that, and then some, IMHO. Thank you all.....

Now y'all can rag on me all you want instead. Heck, I've probably earned that and then some.....lol

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17
Nobody earns the right to post garbage fake news to promote a biassed narrative.

Matt

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
I totally agree Solo. Nobody is attacking Shuteye. He's not the one that started hurling insults.

KPC

From: Whitey
04-Dec-17
Mommy GG has spoken.

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17

"Mommy GG has spoken."

Is that all you got you Whitey? I'm not surprised.

I'll go out on a limb and bet that every NFL team makes a profit that most companies would dream of this year. You name the wager.

Matt

From: Whitey
04-Dec-17
Like that was ever a part of the discussion mama

From: Woods Walker
04-Dec-17
Lex has probably gone through a whole case of popcorn by now!

From: Gray Ghost
04-Dec-17
What was part of the discussion besides fake news, Whitey?

I'll take that as a no bet. Thanks for playing.

Maqtt

From: NvaGvUp
04-Dec-17
If you think stock prices can't rise sans the financials, you must have missed the dot.com boom. The stocks of companies that not only had no profits were soaring, so were the stocks of companies which had no revenue!

It was all about 'expectation.'

Which proved the old saw about a man and his money being soon parted.

From: sleepyhunter
04-Dec-17
Didn't we just go thru this a few days ago? Shuteye you having some fun with the CF ?

From: K Cummings
04-Dec-17
"Didn't we just go thru this a few days ago?"

We go through it almost every day sleepy.

Step One: Someone posts some fake news or a link to a ignorant theory.

Step Two: Someone else jumps on the bandwagon saying I told you so.

Step Three: Someone else shows the fake news to be just that - fake news.

Step Four: The people who show it to be bogus are vilified, called names and accused of thinking they are superior to everyone else.

Step Five: The people who originally posted the fake news or the ones that jumped on the bandwagon claim that it was all a joke.

Step Six: Wash, rinse, repeat.

KPC

From: Whitey
04-Dec-17
Where is the pity party? Are we supposed to bring a gift?

From: sleepyhunter
04-Dec-17
It could be a joke. It could be a simple mistake. It's Shuteye's thread if he chooses to comment, we'll find out. I ignored this thread because it's about the NFL. They already get more attention than they deserve. The fake news stories will more than likely continue since so many throw a fit about it.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Dec-17
You're the same guys that would get your panties all in a wad if someone posted fake news about Trump as if it were fact..... I'm sure each time fake news is posted as fact here,,, And a few guys jump on the bandwagon to say...."I told you so"...... those guys knew it was fake and they were in on the joke before it started,,,, Right ??? Let's face it... A person doesn't have to be a critical thinker to debunk some of the dumb fake news that is posted here on the CF........

From: K Cummings
05-Dec-17
Oops, I forgot one step in the chronology of a fake news thread.

Step 7: The people who originally posted the fake news, or the ones that jumped on the bandwagon, realize how foolish they look and proceed to accuse those who show it to be bogus of being whiners, having a pity party, or in extreme cases, accusing them of being the "L" word (liberal).

:)

KPC

From: Woods Walker
05-Dec-17
By now Lex must have had to buy a new microwave!

{INVESTMENT TIP}............Buy Orville Redenbacher stock!

From: BIG BEAR
05-Dec-17
Maybe Lex was trolling all the guys who immediately jump on the bandwagon and say "I told you so"....... To see how many he could snag ......

From: Thumper
06-Dec-17
Well, its the Cleveland Browns that has filed. 0-12...SMH

From: Shuteye
06-Dec-17
I haven't checked this thread in days. I love it when things get rolling. Woods Walker, I get my pop corn at Sam's Club in five gallon buckets. Started that years ago when my dog absolutely loved pop corn as much as my wife and I. He only liked it with butter on it. hee hee.

From: K Cummings
06-Dec-17
No worries. I just read where the Jaguars hired this dude for their halftime shows.

Tickets are selling at a premium now, and ticket outlets can barely keep up with demand.

Rumor has it that the Cleveland Browns are considering a similar show only they are going to be adding a chemtrail demonstration.

KPC

From: BIG BEAR
06-Dec-17
Now it's Cleveland ?? Where did you get that information Thumper ??

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