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06-Dec-17

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That pretty much looks right on to me.

06-Dec-17

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December 5, 2017

A READER WHO SAYS HE IS A FORMER PROSECUTOR AND JUDGE EMAILS:

Did the prosecution tell Flynn’s lawyer that their main witness against him was removed for bias? Since Strzok led the interview and his testimony would be needed to establish untruthfulness, he is a critical witness not just a prosecutor. If not disclosed, would this not be a Giglio violation? This is the kind of misconduct that can get a case dismissed and a lawyer disbarred. It is a Constitutional violation. This has bothered me since I heard about it.

Me too.

Though to be clear, I’m not a former prosecutor. But with no recording and a witness who’s been dismissed for bias. . . ."

From: Woods Walker
06-Dec-17

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From: Gray Ghost
06-Dec-17
So, Mueller, who was appointed by Trump's DAG to conduct the investigation, is secretly a deep state operative who entrapped Flynn?

Is that the current narrative on the right?

What does that say about Rosenstein, or Trump's judgment in making him the DAG?

Matt

From: JL
06-Dec-17
IMO Trey Gowdy has the right approach. Unless something major comes up, let the guy (Mueller) try to do his job and then go from there.

06-Dec-17
Rosenstein has since been shown to be a cesspool creature, as has Mueller. Trump is not a washinton insider and may not have known these things, may have recieved pressure from those around him to use mueller, may have made deals with McConnel or other power players for other important stuff, or Trump may be playing 3d chess, or some parts of all of the above, and possibly more I did not think of, so, in answer to your question, GG, nobody knows yet!

God willing, we will see ALL of Washington's dirty water before this all gets flushed by WE THE PEOPLE!

I know you are in favor of trashing ALL the criminals, right?

From: Woods Walker
06-Dec-17
Just by the fact that there's NO investigation of any sort against Hillary when everyone knows she destroyed subpoenaed evidence shows that the law has now been weaponized as a political tool and CANNOT be trusted.

I don't believe anything that comes from any Federal agency anymore.

From: JTV
06-Dec-17

JTV's Link
GG, are you taking talking points from 'theist ?? ... this whole Mueller team is nothing but a "I hate Trump" TDS witch hunt... The reputation of the FBI is in taters right now... it has been shown they can not be trusted, at least with the higher ups... there are many field agents that despise whats going on, and did go on with the Clinton BS....

From: JTV
06-Dec-17

JTV's Link
another by Sarah Carter ....

From: Rhody
06-Dec-17
The only thing that Mule-ear is getting is process crimes. No collusion, no smoking gun, just going back into Trumps dealings years and years ago. Way past what Mule-ear was tasked to do.

Rush nailed it yesterday, it's an impeachment investigation on Trump to get anything that might constitute as a crime.

The Swamp wants Trump gone anyway that they can. The MSM is so invested in that narrative that they believe it that today is the day that they have the goods and report that Trump committed a crime.

From: Gray Ghost
06-Dec-17
Personally I think any crimes committed by our elected officials should be prosecuted, regardless if they relate to the special counsel's "tasked" assignment.

If you actually read Muellers appointment letter from Rosenstein, it's basically an open book to do just that, with the consent of the AG on matters that go outside the specified scope.

Matt

06-Dec-17
Fine, VG, but there is no parity in the justice department. I refuse to believe that Mueller has not hidden/ignored TONS of evidence that implicate the Demons in the Russia scandal. Why is that ok? He must have run into much that points to Clinton's dealings with Russia so why is he not delving into Whitewatergate, and beefoptionsgate, and Vince Fosters two-in-the-back-of-the-head suicide and the missing Rose Law Firm files hat mysteriously reappeared a few days after the statute of limitations expired, or.......i could go on for days but you want to ignore all of that AND her current dirty dealings, especially with Russia!

You have zero credibility when you do that, my friend. This is all about TDS, period, and you suffer equally from it.

From: Gray Ghost
06-Dec-17
Spike,

You can refuse to believe anything you want, or not. I choose to still believe in our criminal justice process, and in the people who strive to uphold it. I'll continue to believe Mueller is one of those people until facts prove my beliefs wrong.

Matt

From: Bentstick81
06-Dec-17
I strongly recommend listening to Mark Levin. He explained how mueller was a joke. I can't explain what he said exactly, but he was proving every bit of it. There is no sense on coming on here and saying he is a Trump supporter, for the reasoning of his claim. I suggest to listen to him, then try and prove him wrong. You won't be able to do it. Last night's show was really interesting.

From: slade
06-Dec-17
Some lemmings will chose to believe anything as long as it fit's their closet democrat proclivities, as manifested by their pontificating diatribes.

From: Mint
06-Dec-17

Mint's Link
What a sad state of affairs with the FBI and Mueller. What a complete disgrace. See link from the NYPost.

From: Rocky
06-Dec-17
GG, You have finally validated your advance billing of being a utter and complete fool with your prior posts. The fact from your own lips " I choose to still believe in our criminal justice process" is remarkable and beyond comprehension, foreknowledge in place of the corruption being reported and exposed everyday of the Washington elites. The justice departments handling of the Hillary Clinton fiasco and travesty isn't enough for you to question? You best have a good sit down with Matt so that he may take corrective measures in your folly and embarrassingly idiotic contentions.

The Rock

From: JTV
06-Dec-17
with the wave of his hand GG shluffs this off .... no wonder Clinton wasnt prosecuted... no wonder the sale of the Uranium went thru ...this FBI/DOJ cabal is as dirty as any criminal enterprise... failure to see these involved as Clinton/Obama cronies shows pure ignorance .... their TDS is deep ...

From: Sixby
06-Dec-17
Obama loaded every agency with radical lefties and weaponized them , many literally with rifles and millions of rounds of ammo. Question I have always had is why no one seemed to see it ? Why did the Forest Service, the EPA, The IRS ect need to be literally armed? My take was Obama was building a socialist army and planned the overtake of this nation , if not himself the with the Clintons. The election of Trump literally destroyed years of planning and One World Order dreams from Bush 1 through Obama. What do you all think the reason is that the Dems will not acknowledge our duly elected government? An outsider won the election. The people and God Himself set aside his Judgment for a time. God bless You all and God bless America. Steve

From: Woods Walker
06-Dec-17
Well I'm not quite that "tinfoiled", but I do agree about the subversion of Trump and the election. But I believe it's NOT just Democrats but the career politicians of BOTH parties. For the most part they are equally worthless and in it for the personal enrichment.

For sure we no longer have any rule of law, seeing that it only applies to certain segments of the population and not others.

From: Gray Ghost
06-Dec-17
Yada, yada, yada......

Everybody is a keyboard prosecutor, jury, and judge around here. Yet, we are all dealing with the same limited information. Absolutely none of us know the truth, yet.

I'm willing to let Mueller continue his work. When he's done, I'll support any investigation into the allegations against Hillary, as well. And I'll avoid ignorant conclusions in the meantime. As a good friend told me a few days ago, I know what I don't know. Some of you don't.

Matt

From: Woods Walker
06-Dec-17
"When he's done, I'll support any investigation into the allegations against Hillary, as well."

LOL! Don't hold your breath on that one GG! We'll have to take up a Memorial Fund for you!

From: JTV
06-Dec-17
I'll toss in a penny ... ;0)

From: Bentstick81
06-Dec-17
8^)

From: JTV
06-Dec-17

JTV's Link
over 10,000 emails between Muellers Trump haters ... link ^^

From: Rocky
06-Dec-17
Matt, ...for Gods sake straighten this guy GG out. He is casting aspirations upon you.

The Rock

From: Gray Ghost
06-Dec-17
Wait...who is "The Rock", again?

The Matt

From: Annony Mouse
06-Dec-17
Justice Department Now Handing Over Peter Strzok's Texts to Congress, Under Threat of Contempt Citation

(Note: internal links at source link)

I urge Donald Trump to give a public statement, a solemn one, from the Map Room or some other sufficiently serious setting, and declare that he is ordering, as President, his underlings to comply with Congress' demands for information, on pain of firing if they refuse.

He'd be on strong legal grounds. They have no right to refuse Congress' demands as it is. With their actual employer explicitly ordering them to comply, their refusal would be grounds for termination -- even for alleged "non-partisan" career employees.

And then he should clean fucking house.

Trump really needs to act the tough guy if he wants to be credible when he talks the tough guy.

Similar thoughts here.

Anyway, that said, the DOJ is complying with one of the many outstanding demands for information Congress requires.

The Justice Department is in the process of handing over to the House Intelligence Committee the anti-Trump text messages that got a key FBI official removed from Robert Mueller's Russia probe, Fox News has learned -- a move that comes as the panel weighs a possible contempt resolution.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., had demanded the text messages between FBI counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, an FBI lawyer with whom Strzok was romantically involved. Both were part of Mueller's Russia team at the time. Page has since returned to the FBI, and Strzok was reassigned to the FBI's HR department after the discovery of the anti-Trump texts.

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The exact timeline is unclear, and only the relevant texts will be turned over.

By "relevant," I assume they mean texts that are not too personal as in "pillow talk between alleged lovers," but by permitting themselves to still conceal some text, they allow themselves, as usual, a loophole to stonewall and obstruct justice.

Update: There are 10,000+ texts between Strzok and other members of Mueller's team to go through. They say it will take "weeks" to determine which texts are "relevant."

Anyone want to bet that they'll deem any texts showing the partisanship of people besides the already-implicated to be "irrelevant"?

Oh, and this is juicy:

Strzok briefed the committee on Dec. 5, 2016, sources said. But within months of that session House Intelligence Committee investigators were contacted by an informant suggesting that there was "documentary evidence" that Strzok was purportedly obstructing the House probe into the dossier.

Devin Nunes thinks this is all still stonewalling:

But Nunes voiced skepticism on Saturday.

He said that after the Strzok texts were revealed, the DOJ expressed a "sudden willingness to comply with some of the Committee's long-standing demands" but added: "This attempted 11th-hour accommodation is neither credible nor believable, and in fact is yet another example of the DOJ’s disingenuousness and obstruction."

From: JTV
06-Dec-17
the whole Mueller team stinks to high heaven ....

From: slade
06-Dec-17
FYI, These text's were sent by Strzok to his mistress and FBI attorney Lisa Page

07-Dec-17
WOW, ANONY!

JUST WOW!

This is getting REALLY GOOD!

I am more hopeful than ever that actual JUSTICE may happen!!

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From: Woods Walker
07-Dec-17
"I am more hopeful than ever that actual JUSTICE may happen!!"

I hate to shatter your hopes spike, but I fear that this part of our American experiment is past. Justice is NOT for all of us, but only applies to certain groups of people at certain times, and is 100% POLITICALLY driven. Once again, it goes from illegal aliens/sanctuary cities to Hillary not even being investigated no less not already in jail. Then there's Bergdahl and a host of other situations. The rule of law is now only applied on the whim of those with a political agenda and who either have power or are being used as pawns by those in power. And the "5th estate" is in full support of this and advances the agenda.

From: HA/KS
07-Dec-17

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo
This is why it will not make a difference. A great percent of American public actually believe that this chart is accurate.

From: Rocky
07-Dec-17
HA,

....hopefully believe and want to believe, but on second thought you are correct. They will fervently believe whatever they may think. We now how they think. ;-)

Matt, What the hell took you so long? Welcome back and prevent this GG from bandying your name around. You must be able to control this alter ego thing. I will alert you don't worry pal. ;-)

The Rock

From: JTV
07-Dec-17
Anyone who thinks CNN, Rueters, Time, NPR, Politico, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. are not left leaning needs a visit to the shrink ....

From: Beendare
07-Dec-17
I still don't get the Mueller appointment. He has too much swamp history in the dealings of the Obama admin. They really need a special council to investigate the special council! The players in the Obama FBI and DOJ are THAT bad.

Trumps arrogance may have played a part in his decision and it wouldn't surprise me. Pick a guy that is obviously slanted against him....as he knows there is nothing to hide. [my guess]

Well the problem is he didn't know Flynn lied....and he probably underestimated the swamp dealings of Mueller/Comey/ Hillary and possibly Sessions.

All conjecture sure...but one thing is becoming very clear- its a swampy mess with literally none of the players in the investigation being squeaky clean.

From: Grey Ghost
07-Dec-17
Trump didn't appoint Mueller. His Deputy Attorney General, Rosenstein, did.

The sniveling for Mueller to resign, or to be fired, basically implies Rosenstein is also corrupt, and that Trump showed a huge lack of judgement in making Rosenstein the DAG.

Matt

From: JTV
07-Dec-17
the whole damn higher echelon crew is as dirty as GG's dupa ... its all part of the swamp... the FBI and the DOJ needs flushed out .... I'm sure there are some very good field agents there, but many of the political dweebs in the higher positions need to go ... many are Obama/Clinton friendly and are hold overs from the Obama regime ... Mueller and his whole team is dirty as crap also, they cant be trusted, not one bit

From: Sixby
07-Dec-17
GG: I can agree with most of this with the exception of sniviling. That is simply your left attempting to cast dispersion on legitimate questions we (the right) have concerning the legitimacy and the lack of bias in this so called Russian Interferance investigation which has literally turned into a shotgun Trump hunt with a goal of kill the Trump. I believe that we see it for what it really is. A big fish in a barrel with an automatic weapon pointed at him and no one stopping the shooter. If he misses a couple of times he just pours the water out and watches until the fish dies.

God bless, Steve

From: Rocky
07-Dec-17
GG,

Here you go again. "Trump showed a huge lack of judgement". How many years of education did it take for you to simply finish high school? Was that also lack of judgement or a learning process?

The Rock

From: Woods Walker
07-Dec-17
"the whole damn higher echelon crew is a dirty as GG's dupa ..."

!!!!?????? And you know this how.....??? Wait.........on second thought....I don't want to know!

From: slade
07-Dec-17

slade's Link
Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm

From: Rocky
07-Dec-17
Demoted from one of his positions in the government but still holds a second one. This government has to be stopped with this BS. This guy held two jobs simultaneously and there are children in America in need. WTF. Time to go through this government one by one. I will say it again.... "Thank God for Donald Trump". Is it any wonder the political machine needs him gone and gone quick before he tears down Pa. Ave. once and for all. The longer he stays the more he learns and the more he learns the more he will reveal.

The Rock

The Rock

From: Annony Mouse
07-Dec-17
From A Legal Perspective, Mueller’s Investigation is Dead. Here’s Why

(Internal links at link)

Like a headless turkey running around in circles, Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s anti-Trump investigation is dead, even if he does not yet realize it. While his investigation stumbles onward, with life support provided by the biased media, from a legal perspective the viability of any criminal case that Mueller could possibly bring has been effectively gutted thanks to the news (suppressed for months by Mueller’s team) that the FBI’s “key agent” in both the Russia investigation and the Clinton email probe was an ardent Hillary supporter with an anti-Trump bias.

Under federal law, a prosecutor is required “to disclose exculpatory and impeachment information to criminal defendants and to seek a just result in every case.” Specifically, pursuant to Giglio v. United States, prosecutors are obligated to provide defendants with impeachment evidence, which includes, according to the DOJ’s guidelines, evidence of a witness’s biases, “[a]nimosity toward defendant,” or “[a]nimosity toward a group of which the defendant is a member or with which the defendant is affiliated.”

As a result, in any prosecution brought by Mueller against a Republican target, defense counsel would be entitled under the Constitution to all evidence in the government’s possession relevant to exploring the apparent biases of FBI agent Peter Strzok and his animosity toward Trump and the Republican Party. This, in and of itself, could be a case-killer because it is very unlikely that Mueller or the DOJ would want defense counsel poring through all the records and documents, emails, and texts in the DOJ’s and Strzok’s possession revealing the agent’s biases since this could fatally undermine any other cases or investigations the agent has worked on—such as the FBI’s decision to recommend charging General Flynn with lying to federal agents even though Hillary Clinton’s besties, Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, were given a free pass despite apparently doing the same thing.

Significantly, the fatal damage done to Mueller’s anti-Trump investigation does not only rest in the fact that defense counsel will be able to conduct an unlubricated prostate examination on the FBI’s key agent at trial. Instead, the real reason why Mueller will not risk a criminal trial is the lasting damage that would be done to the FBI’s reputation by having Strzok’s baggage brought into the daylight.

To expose the agent’s biases, defense counsel would have the opportunity to cross-examine the agent and his apparent mistress, an FBI lawyer who also worked on Mueller’s investigation and the Clinton email probe, about their exchanged messages showing support for Clinton and hostility to Trump. Additionally, the agent’s wife, a high-profile attorney at another federal agency, apparently was a member of several pro-Obama and pro-Clinton Facebook groups and is a follower of a Facebook page called “We Voted for Hillary.”

One can only imagine the fun that an aggressive defense attorney would have shredding Strzok’s credibility by grilling him to see if he shared his wife’s posted political views.

The prospect of having to reveal to defense counsel and the public the FBI’s dirty laundry concerning Strzok—the former deputy head of the agency’s counterespionage unit—plus having to watch as defense attorneys parade the disgraced agent, his disgraced FBI mistress, and possibly his betrayed wife before the jury to explore the extent of his anti-Trump biases pretty much kills the likelihood of Mueller indicting any other Republicans. There’s simply too much downside.

Undeniably, if Mueller were to proceed with a trial under these tainted circumstances, he would be exposing the country’s vaunted legal system and the agency he once headed, to both national and international ridicule. The FBI’s reputation for impartiality would be forever flushed down the toilet. This price simply is not worth it particularly since he has found no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Indeed, one wonders, cynically, if this realization prompted Mueller to offer a light plea deal to Flynn so that he could quickly sign him up as a cooperator and add the general as a notch on his prosecutorial belt before the DOJ notified the public of the real reason for Strzok’s removal from Mueller’s team? (Arguably, Giglio disclosure obligations only apply after a person has been indicted but not if he pleads guilty pre-indictment.)

Finally, it is worth noting that under principles analogous to the fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree doctrine, any FBI agents or officials who worked with Strzok (including James Comey) would be tainted by, and subject to cross-examination to explore, Strzok’s biases and whether he is the type of person who hid from them his biases while making key charging recommendations.

In short, Mueller’s anti-Trump investigation is effectively dead (unless his targets’ lawyers are nincompoops). And, ironically, this is all the fault of Strzok and his mistress who wanted to help “Crooked Hillary” and target Trump. How do you like ‘dem apples?

Nick James is a trial attorney in the D.C. area who formerly worked for the United States Department of Justice as an award-winning federal prosecutor.

From: freeglee
07-Dec-17
Keep The Dream Alive!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

From: Stalker
07-Dec-17
You got that right Freeglee! With all of this information coming out it shouldn't be long before Severgate is back on the front page! Except this time Lynch, Comey and Strzok wont be there to shield Hillary! Sometimes dreams do come true and I'd say this one has pretty good odds!

From: Woods Walker
08-Dec-17

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Woods Walker's embedded Photo

From: Rocky
08-Dec-17
freeglue, If you are alone in a rest room stall change hands.

The Rock

From: Shuteye
08-Dec-17

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From: JTV
08-Dec-17
^^^ well imagine that ....

09-Dec-17

Spike Bull 's Link
And, from the links in Shuteye's post:

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