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From: Jack Harris
23-Jan-18

Jack Harris's Link
To put the final nail in their coffin, the NFL has done something even dumber than allowing their players to kneel.. So profoundly stupid, it's mind-numbing. They have blocked a superbowl add by AMVETS that was simply asking people to please stand for the anthem. Their reason for denying the add? They feel it's political and against their policy. Oh really? Allowing your employees to kneel "to make a political statement" is OK though? http://www.foxnews.c...for-anthem.html I just need Eagles to win, but for the first time in history of Superbowls, I am finding something else to do. Please do not watch it, and spread the news!

From: Glunt@work
23-Jan-18
I've only watched a couple. Its one of my favorite days to coyote hunt some of the public land because no one else is out. Since they decided to not address the players behavior appropriately, it makes sense that they don't want to give the issue any more attention.

From: tonyo6302
23-Jan-18
LOOKOUT Jack !!!!!

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. . . . Grey Ghost, BIG BEAR, Pig Doc, and Jimbo will call you a prig in 5....4....3....2...

From: Owl
23-Jan-18
This is a Catch-22, imo. Like flag burning, any official policy compelling behavior by threat of penalty greatly diminishes the symbol (or event) in and of itself. Yes, even private policy in this case.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. I like seeing free people acting freely because you see what is in their hearts. Also, issues like this push the flip side of the debate forward, too. Consider the Steeler who defied the team to stand alone for the anthem. Powerful image. Lastly, I cannot blame the league for the actions of a whispy minority of malcontents. Overwhelmingly, the league is demonstrably pro-America.

From: Owl
23-Jan-18
That stated, every person is well within their purview to exert whatever market pressure they wish.

From: Annony Mouse
23-Jan-18
Tony...another Jack. No worries.

However, I do warn friends and colleagues that they should never greet me in an air port or other site of mass transportation by calling out "HI, Jack!"

The Superbowl is going to be televised this year? I know it must be occurring as all the stores are hyping products, but have no clue as to where, when or what date.

Haven't watched any televised sports in over 3 years...too much commercialization and time. Still cannot understand why a game of 60 minutes takes over 3 hours to occur. Hard to justify an occasional 10-15 seconds of excitement by spending so much time in front of the TV. The injection of politics into a recreational game just increased the non-value of invested time.

Hard to beat a good book and a single malt.

From: Bowbender
23-Jan-18
Gotta disagree, Owl. They would not permit players to wear anything the commemorated 911, fallen officers, etc because it was against their policy. If that’s the case they should have put an end to this kneeling crap from the get-go. They allowed political statements in that form, no reason not to accept the ad from AMVET. Unless of course the original reason was to pander to a bunch of overpaid overrated narcissistic thugs.

From: bigswivle
23-Jan-18
Didn't Tebow do an anti- abortion type ad a couple years ago? That's pretty damn political

From: Glunt@work
23-Jan-18
Different strokes. Watching pro sports isn't my thing but I was on the edge of my seat watching my 11 year old's hockey team beat the #1 team in their division this weekend.

From: Owl
23-Jan-18
Bowbender, it's good to disagree. I love tony like family and I bet he wants to kick me in seat of pants right now. :) The NFL has always been uptight about their uniform policy. And for good reason. I would be surprised to find they did not have any commemoration of 9/11 (i.e. patches, etc) on their uniforms at any given time.

Also, remember, the reason this is an issue AT ALL is because it is NFL policy to take time out of its games to perform the national anthem. They don't have to, yet, they do.

From: tonyo6302
23-Jan-18
" I love tony like family and I bet he wants to kick me in seat of pants right now. :)"

Nope. I have seen you and your family shoot.

;^)

From: Tiger-Eye
23-Jan-18
I remember Clint Eastwood doing a political add a few years ago. NFL executives cant get their message straight. They are in a shambles and its beginning to show.

From: Owl
23-Jan-18
Tony, my only skill is in timing my shots with yours! :)

From: Bowbender
23-Jan-18
"Also, remember, the reason this is an issue AT ALL is because it is NFL policy to take time out of its games to perform the national anthem. They don't have to, yet, they do."

That's like saying when people act like assholes at a picnic, I'm at fault because I had a picnic. If their position is no political displays, then..... NO POLITICAL DISPLAYS. Period.

From: foxbo
23-Jan-18
If those dumb sumbitches want to kneel, then let'em. I won't be watching.

From: yooper89
23-Jan-18
I'm probably going to drink beer, eat chicken wing and watch the Superbowl.

From: HDE
23-Jan-18
Won't watch, but not because of the kneeling/standing debate or that my team isn't playing or watching a hated team lose.

Have always had better things to do than watch a bunch of whine babies be catered to. Rome had its Gladiators, the U.S.A. has its NFL...

From: Kodiak
23-Jan-18
I'm watching. Gotta pull for Brady to make it six. They are an amazing dynasty.

From: Sage Buffalo
23-Jan-18
Jack you are wrong about this - the NFL has NOTHING to do with what airs on TV. It's the network that decides what runs and what doesn't and their policies have been around for a long time.

They have guidelines that every creative person knows well before producing. I am pretty sure they knew it wouldn't air to get PR - it's an old marketing ploy to get people to talk about it and watch it without having to pay the $5 million fee.

From: Bowbender
23-Jan-18
Kodiak,

"I'm watching. Gotta pull for Brady to make it six. They are an amazing dynasty."

If I watch, that will be the reason. Not a Pats or Brady fan by any means....but without a doubt the best QB to play the game to date. Just threw up a little in my mouth when I typed that.

From: Owl
23-Jan-18
"If their position is no political displays, then..... NO POLITICAL DISPLAYS. Period."

-Personally, I'd rather keep the anthem but, again, each his own. No one is forced to watch.

From: NvaGvUp
23-Jan-18
I have to wonder why AMVETS would rather spend that kind of money on an ad instead of spending it on veterans in need.

From: Jimbo
23-Jan-18
Go Patriots!!!

From: sleepyhunter
23-Jan-18
I probably won't watch. Looking forward to Baseball season.

From: Sage Buffalo
23-Jan-18
Pat you stole my post above - lol.

From: South Farm
23-Jan-18
Are you kidding? And miss out on ANOTHER awesome Justin Timberlake half-time show?! Why that's worth the price of admission right there..

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From: bear2
23-Jan-18
Ad wasn't for TV it was for the printed program so a many more will see it now then if the NFL had just allowed it in the program.

From: Grey Ghost
24-Jan-18
Misplaced outrage, Jack.

As Sage Buffalo said, Fox dictates what commercials air during the Super Bowl this year, not the NFL.

BTW, Fox is charging $5 MILLION for a 30 second ad during the SB this year, and there is no shortage of companies willing to pay that.

Goodbye NFL? I don't think so.

Matt

From: Kodiak
24-Jan-18
Yeah South Farm, I plan on skipping the Timberlake halftime 'show'. It will be excruciatingly bad I have no doubt. Talentless dweeb pop poindexter.

Tom Petty was about the only one I enjoyed, and he's dead.

From: DL
24-Jan-18
Easy to deal with. Keep the players off the field until the anthem is played.

From: Jimbo
24-Jan-18

Jimbo's Link
Check out the link... A VFW ad for the Super Bowl program was submitted and later approved for a tagline that read: “We Stand for Veterans” with text describing benefits the organization offers.

From: Grey Ghost
24-Jan-18
"Easy to deal with. Keep the players off the field until the anthem is played."

Or, equally easy, don't play the anthem. I'm not sure what a sporting event for entertainment purposes has to do with patriotism, anyway. They don't play the anthem for movies, plays, concerts, etc...so why sports?

Matt

From: Kodiak
24-Jan-18
Agree, just drop it. Let's face it, it's an awful piece of music to begin with(an old English pub drinking melody)and is almost always completely butchered by the singer.

America the Beautiful would be a much improved anthem imo.

From: Will
24-Jan-18
I won't miss a minute of it.

From: Kodiak
24-Jan-18
Lolol

From: Kodiak
24-Jan-18
'Oh Canada' is a nice anthem.

From: BowSniper
24-Jan-18
Tebow did an anti-abortion TV add in full uniform standing on the sidelines before a game???

From: Sixby
24-Jan-18
It doesn't bother me that some will watch the SB. What bothers me is the NFL double standard which literally makes playing the National Anthem a pander to Patriotic Americans. I will not ever watch another NFL game nor support any leftist entity in this nation if I can help it in any way. Those that watch are supporting the left agenda and that is to tear down the fabric of this nation. Do it at your own and your childrens peril. Some of you will not shop Target yet you will watch NFL. That is called a double minded person. So don't ever say Semper Fidelis because you do not have fidelity and are practicing hypocracy. All that said , Its your decision so watch away. God bless, Steve

From: South Farm
24-Jan-18
We could fix many of our societal woes if we all simply smashed our TV's and watched NOTHING. Imagine how much happier we'd be! Best of all Hollywood would no longer have a platform or be an influence in our political lives.

From: Thumper
25-Jan-18
Who cares, its like watching WWE. The NFL is total bs.

From: Mad dog
25-Jan-18
I'm with you Sixby Steve, Thumper, and the rest of us Deplorables with some scruples. You are righteous dudes! This will be only the 2nd Superbowl that I will sit out Since catching every one Since I could sit up in my high chair and watch TV. 1969 Jets-Colts Papa, Big Brother, mom and my sister always made a big event out of it. I got my wife interested in football and she became a HUGE fan. We have thrown really nice Superbowl Parties every year. Venison Chili, Shrimp, Wings, beer, chips and The Greatest exclusively-American sport, FOOTBALL! That stopped Last year with Krapper-nick and the BITTER, BLACK, BILLIONAIRES that have shat upon our flag, our Country, our police and our Vets. The ONLY way they could ever get me back would be to fire loser Goodell, severely fine & bench the kneelers (you wanna express yourself? No Problem Brother, your paying a 100,000 fine each game and your sitting the bench) I do agree with an earlier poster, owl? That it is good to not ban kneeling so you can clearly see who the enemy is.

I know this ain't gonna happen. I would feel like a traitor cheating on my country if I watched. They broke my heart. As I've said before I have a few friends and two family members that still watch, albeit sheepishly. I DO think less of them now, and anyone else that does. America First, FOOTBALL 2nd, NFL LAST!!!!!!! In closing, I hope one of the Eagles takes Brady out of the game early. Snap his leg or something neato like that. Take the penalty. I'm calling on the ghost of the late, great Philadelphia Eagle Middle Linebacker Chuck "Concrete Charlie" Bednarik To channel his best "Frank Gifford tackle" to one if The Eagles. BraDy is one of the greats, but a pompous, Golden Boy ass. Go Eagles. I'll find out the score on the news or papers, but it won't be on in our house. Mad Dog

From: Sixby
25-Jan-18
I never missed the football season until two years ago. Have not watched a game since. Thats a lot of football since about 1960 or so/ The traiterous acts of the NFL and its players are so gut wrenching to me due to the contempt expressed against our nation and against our chosen leader and against our military just completely caused me to deplore and despise the athletes and the administration of the NFL and the racial bias and hatred that they espouse. It was like to opposing magnets, we just cannot come together at all. God bless, Steve

From: Mad dog
25-Jan-18
Steve, the sheep here that continue to drink the tainted water of the NFL are cut from the same cloth as The Vichy French Colloborators, The Commie sympathizers, The Nazis. They all have one thing in common: don't ask no questions just go,with the flow. One day THEY wake up and their COUNTRY Is gone. Notice how they have skulked away and arent engaging any more? They know we are right. Mad Dog

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25-Jan-18

From: Mad dog
26-Jan-18
Looks like our "opponents" have left the arena, sixby

MAD DOG

From: Mad dog
28-Jan-18
Hey Mr Solo Cup (Remember those?) Be careful or i will give you rabies! EXACTLY my brother. It IS ONLY?a game, don't throw the USA under the bus for an F' ing game! So, ???? Are you telling me you gonna watch it ? Mad dog

From: slade
28-Jan-18
With the 2017 NFL season now down in the record books as having lost another ten percent in TV ratings, the league has found a $30 million dip in ad revenue, a report says. As the final numbers for advertisement sales for the season were tallied, the league discovered that its revenue fell 1.2 percent because “makegoods” rose to beat rate increases. A makegood is a partial repayment of money charged to advertisers because the viewership did not reach the expected numbers to justify the top rate.

With only three weeks until game day, NBC still has close to ten Super Bowl LII ad slots left unsold. The network is expecting to earn around $500 million in ad revenue for the big game.

From: slade
28-Jan-18
Survey: NFL Ties MSNBC for 6th Most Polarizing Brand in America

From: slade
29-Jan-18
Forumrat>>

:)

From: tonyo6302
29-Jan-18
"But if you're going to lecture others on what they should be doing, you might want to check your own hypocrisy and fidelity first. "

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Guys, the biggest lecturer on Bowsite has spoken!!!!!

From: sleepyhunter
29-Jan-18

sleepyhunter's Link
Baseball starts 3-29-18. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

From: bigeasygator
29-Jan-18
Solo...Trump Hotels was #1 and Fox News was #3 on that list.

From: tonyo6302
29-Jan-18
"you gave me my second belly laugh for the day."

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So I take it we will never hear you again lecture JTV about laughing stuff off.

From: sleepyhunter
29-Jan-18

KPC when he "belly laughs".

From: BIG BEAR
29-Jan-18
I love baseball but most of the players in MLB don't understand the National Anthem because it's in English...... just saying...

From: Mad dog
29-Jan-18
Now now Solo, name calling? Yes, I am the Capo du tuti of the Anti NFL hit sqaud. I believe in Free Will and not trying to convince anyone what to do. I'm just enjoying skewering you guys that have sided with The NFL over your country. Mad Dog

From: Bowbender
29-Jan-18
"I'm just enjoying skewering you guys that have sided with The NFL over your country."

Does that follow thru to all those that advertise? Like Anheuser Busch, Pepsi, Coke, Toyota, Universal Pictures, Paramount Pictures, Doritoes, M&M's, Weathertec, Kraft, .... That whole principle thing....

I can just see it now..... some are typing up a "witty" response whilst wiping the Bud from their rage induced spittle flecked lips, pecking away furiously on their computer using Windows, frantically googling for an appropriate meme, while multi-tasking on Facebook with their Iphone, while yelling hey mom, can you bring me some more "Spicy Sweet Chili Doritoes" down the basement. And a clean sock, too.

Crack me the hell up.....

From: sleepyhunter
29-Jan-18
Maxine,

I'm not watching the Superbowl because I don't care to watch the Pats or the Eagles. They are probably the two teams I least like of all the NFL/AFL teams. I could care less who advertises during the game. I've always enjoyed Baseball over Football. Hope you enjoyed the video. I sure did. I was happy to share it with everyone. Hilarious to watch.

From: Grey Ghost
29-Jan-18
Gee, I feel sooooo "skewered" by the prigs.

"A clean sock..." Funny stuff, Bowbender. LOL!!

Matt

From: gadan
29-Jan-18
I may be the only EAGLES fan here, I suppose. Though I hate that a select group chooses to kneel, I will be watching the game. I love watching football and hockey is the only other sport I like to watch more. The Eagles have a few great things going for them. 1) They're not the Pats; 2) Bruising defense; 3) Winning as underdogs time and again; 4) Great character guys on the team(Wentz and others); 5) No hot dogs; 6)They're not the Pats.

From: Mad dog
29-Jan-18
Although I ain't watching I hope Eagles F pretty boy Brady Up. Break his friggin leg! And, this from a Life Long Giants Fan up till last season. Bowbender, yes I don't patronize any of those companies any more. Dannon yogurt, But, et al. I go outta my way to give business to their competitors. Some things like Google & that, what choice do We have? Mad Dog

From: Rocky
29-Jan-18
gadan.

Forget Wence. Its over. Nobody knows and will ever know what he may have accomplished on the big stage when the game means everything. Remember 5 heaving chunks in the SB. The moment was too big for him. BTW......few QB's have come all the way back after a serious knee injury. Remember another Carson years ago...Carson Palmer who was tearing the league up headed for the SB, then boom, never was right again. Nick Foles and destiny have made a pact. He chops up the best defense in the league and will chop up the Pats and spit them out. He has the best QB rating in NFL history in playoff games. Small subject of work, but, still the highest rated anyway you cut it. He also holds the record for the most TD's in NFL history in one game...7. The guy is no fluke. He is a system type QB much like Brady and Belichek's system.The Eagles lucked out when Wence went down and to think EVERYONE in Philly thought all was lost. Now talk radio is all about how Nicky Six is going to save the season. Nicky Six wins the SB with the Eagles, goes to Disney World, gets a big fat check from another team next year and the Eagles never see the SB again with Carson Wence at the reins. Shame, sad but true. Never was in the cards for him. Now of course lets start with the Eagles winning the SB and we will take it from there. ;-)

The Rock

The Rock

From: Grey Ghost
29-Jan-18
The Rock's NFL prognosticating isn't very convincing.

Here's a short list of NFL QBs who have come back from ACL injuries, like Wentz's. Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, Joe Flacco, and Donavan McNabb. Adrian Peterson was the leagues #1 rusher after returning from a ACL. It's not the career ending injury it used to be.

Seven NFL QBs have thrown 7 TDs in a game. Nick Foles happens to be one of them, and he did it against the lowly Raiders, who were perhaps the worst team in the league that year. Nice accomplishment, but not worthy of Canton.

Nick Foles is a middle-tier QB in the league, and the huge gap in talent between him and Brady will be obvious on Sunday.

The Matt

From: Kodiak
29-Jan-18
The Vikes made Foles look better than he is.

That was the worst defensive playoff performance in memory.

I think he's adequate and if Philly can slow down Brady they've got a real shot.

From: Glunt@work
29-Jan-18
Elway played without an acl

I don't have one in my right knee...I don't recommend it :^)

Surgery failed and I didn't know it. Hiked and hunted 20 some years. Started bothering me and the doc let me know I haven't had an acl for a long time and the next surgery is a new knee. Putting it off until I age a bit. Still do whatever I want for the most part but don't outrun any linebackers.

From: Jimbo
29-Jan-18
Go Patriots!

From: Mad dog
29-Jan-18
F the patriots Jimbo. Mad?dog

From: Mad dog
29-Jan-18
F the patriots Jimbo. Mad?dog

29-Jan-18
I will not watch the game.

From: Grey Ghost
29-Jan-18
I will proudly watch the game, recognizing it represents the pinnacle of what thousands of young athletes in America strive to accomplish. I will ignore the minority of players who used this platform to try to make a political statement, and failed.

The prigs are welcomed to do differently, but don't force your pretentious actions on me.

Matt

From: Bowbender
29-Jan-18
Me....I'm gonna watch the game, eat a bunch of unhealthy food, drink a few beers, maybe a couple of fingers of bourbon, and work on my plan for my (and my son's) first DIY elk hunt. Gonna be a good day 'tater.

From: Highlife
29-Jan-18
Don't watch or watch and let the sponsors know how you feel. Easy peasey next world problem. ... .

From: Rocky
29-Jan-18
GG, Wrong again as usual. Carson Wence tore BOTH his ACL and LDL. Few QB'S have EVER came back full strength and as effective with both torn. Brady is without a doubt one of the best ever because of the rings, who could argue, but without Belichik you never would have heard about him. His arm is adequate, no cannon but serviceable. He has always had undersized receivers who worked within a unmatched system, routes and seams being dominant, and unmatched genius of a coach. Gronk don't hurt underneath either. Brady can not get out of his own way and the Eagles front line will eat him up. Eagles retire Brady. Done deal. Foles......4 TD'S 385 YDS. MVP. Brady gets picked off 2 times and 5 sacks.

The Rock

From: slade
29-Jan-18
As a member of the Super Bowl-bound Philadelphia Eagles, national anthem protester and social activist Malcolm Jenkins is allotted a group of tickets for the upcoming Super Bowl.

Ever the activist, Jenkins decided to give his tickets to a convicted murderer who is out on parole.

From: Owl
30-Jan-18
Dave, they're called "right fighters." Discontented to hold one's own view, these individuals will not stop until the opposition kneels in acknowledgement that they were, indeed, right all along. :)

From: Owl
30-Jan-18
BTW, how would you like to be James Harrison? Cast aside by your team only to be picked up by the Pats and in the Super Bowl a few weeks later. As a last laugh, that is epic.

From: Grey Ghost
30-Jan-18
"Foles......4 TD'S 385 YDS. MVP. Brady gets picked off 2 times and 5 sacks."

Just for preservation sake. ;-)

Matt

From: rdohn
30-Jan-18
I will not watch the Game until these players quit disrespecting our Veterans. I am a life long Steeler Fan and have not watched a game since September. The Pittsburgh Kneelers decided to stay in the Tunnel during the Anthem and the only one on the field with his hand on his Chest was Army Ranger Alejandro Villanueva a decorated bronze star recipient for Valor. He was later reprimanded for letting his team down. Disgusting!

From: Owl
30-Jan-18
"Pittsburgh Kneelers" lol. So many connotations, so little time.

From: Rocky
30-Jan-18
GG,

This will be a "rocking chair game" as we would call a yawner in Philly. File that also. BTW...did you also file the Trump primary and general prediction because I never heard from you after the election about it. ;-)

The Rock

30-Jan-18
, who met Songster on Dec. 29, the day after his release. "I know normally, people give those to kids or people who may be sick or who are well deserving, but I wanted to have an example that sometimes we can think outside the box and we can listen and hear from one another, so what better platform than the Super Bowl to show those examples? "Once I got the opportunity to get those tickets through the Man of the Year, he was the first person that popped in my mind," said Jenkins

"Because he's someone I'm going to lean on for insight of what's going on, who has been through the process, knows what's going on, how people are being affected," he continued. "Those are the voices I want to amplify when we talk about trying to change it. You have to be able to engage and Kempis is a great example of that."

Yeah Malcom...

"I know normally, people give those to kids or people who may be sick or who are well deserving, but I wanted to have an example that sometimes we can think outside the box..."

"Once I got the opportunity to get those tickets through the Man of the Year, he was the first person that popped in my mind," said Jenkins.

I know that if I were ever in a position to distribute some form of largesse, I'd definitely skip over the kids, the veterans, the cops and firefighters, the terminally ill... and definitely, the first thing to pop into my mind would be to reward a murderer "who has been through the process".

From: Rocky
30-Jan-18
What process? Taking someone's life and the protocol that follows? If the process was truly just he would be planted in the bone orchard where he belongs. Oh wait......I can see the "out of the box" thing he is talking about. Yeah...the casket.

The Rock

From: Rocky
30-Jan-18
GG,

I am going to amend my prediction with the latest injury report on Nick Foles which is my right going forward. Make that 388 yds. not 385 and 4 TD's.

The Rock

From: HA/KS
30-Jan-18

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From: Owl
30-Jan-18
Lots of verses in the Bible about Lions, too... :)

From: Rocky
30-Jan-18
HA, I hope you are correct because if not GG is going to eat ME alive. ;-)

The Rock

From: Thumper
31-Jan-18
To heck with the gang bangers of the NFL, I'm going fishing...........!

31-Jan-18
Last night our president made a comment in the State of The Union speech about standing for our National Anthem. The democrats sat on their thumbs while everyone else in the hall stood and applauded. We will must remember this at voting time. Drain the swamp.

From: slade
31-Jan-18
Tuesday on ESPN Radio’s “Golic and Wingo,” NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell praised his league’s players for the social issues they addressed, saying he and ownership are “proud” of their work.

From: Mad dog
02-Feb-18
From that nappy-headed pencil neck geek who forgot he's Caucasian and tries oh so hard to be black, Justin Timberlake says: "I'LL NEVER LET MY SON'S PLAY FOOTBALL!" Another great PR move by Goodell & Company

That's gonna be some halftime show. Mad Dog

From: Mad dog
02-Feb-18
Thumper. When one is losing an argument and has nothing else to add, they sling the "racism" charge out there and see if it sticks. Thumper describes a pretty high percentage of today's NFL players, Pig Doc. Aaron Hernandez ring a bell? Mad Dog

From: tonyo6302
02-Feb-18
Traveling back from Bahrain in 2009, and the wife was traveling back from Okinawa, we decided to meet up in Hawaii, as that was her last business stop.

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We initially stayed in the Hilton Hawaiian Village, on Waikiki Beach. The Pro Bowl was in town, and I am guessing that most of the Players and their wives or girlfriends were staying there too.

The first evening my Wife and I tried to go down to one of the bars and have a nice relaxing drink, then go for a "holding hands walk on the beach". Unfortunately, all we heard was the filthiest foulest language that I have ever heard in my life. I had flashbacks to my first Westpac port call in Olongapo, P.I.

I just wished that the players would have stepped in and made their wives and girlfriends talk in a more civilized language, and stop all the cussing.

The walk on the beach was also ruined by the 140 decibel blasting of Rap and Hip-Hop.

We left the Hilton the next day, and stayed in transient quarters at MCB Kaneohe Bay, for the rest of our stay. It was quieter, and we had some good relaxing beach time there.

From my experiences, I would have to agree with Thumper.

From: Owl
02-Feb-18
For every Aaron Hernandez, how many Carson Wentz-type players are in the league? Quite a few, actually. His depravity was as anomalous to the NFL as it was to our culture, in general. To greatly illustrate points about CTE, Hernandez was found to have a grotesquely advanced case for his age, was he not?

From: Grey Ghost
02-Feb-18

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Most NFL players don’t stick to sports — and that’s often a good thing. During their free time, which is limited during the season, many work tirelessly to benefit their communities.

NFL coverage has been focused over the past week on protests during the national anthem. Some of the reaction to that has been negative, but lost in the discussion is the positive impact players make away from the football field. So SB Nation’s team sites decided to highlight different ways teams and players give their time, money, and platform to benefit those who welcome their help.

Just this week, we saw Deshaun Watson donating his first game check to three Houstonians who work in the Texans’ cafeteria. These people lost everything to the devastation of Hurricane Harvey, and Watson stepped up selflessly.

A gesture that seems as small as Washington’s Rob Kelley and Keith Marshall buying a child an Xbox leaves a lasting impression, too — not just on that kid, but on the fans who find out about this random act of kindness. There’s so much NFL players do that they don’t seek credit for, but means the world to the people on the receiving end.

Some of our team sites chose to feature the contributions of just one player, or a specific event. Here’s just a small sampling of the good things NFL players are doing off the field.

Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Peterson is one of the NFL’s most generous players Some of the highlights of what Peterson does around the Arizona community and beyond provided by the Arizona Cardinals: Peterson created the “Foundation for Success” which aims to provide low-income and inner city youth with opportunities and resources to reach their full potential. The foundation hopes to implement an excellent balance for community development. Peterson along with his wife, Antonique, visited Haiti as guests of Mission of Hope. In January of 2015, Peterson unveiled the first “Patrick’s Corner” of his foundation for students and families at Nevitt Elementary School in Phoenix. For more, check out the entire entry at Revenge of the Birds.

Atlanta Falcons: Vic Beasley aims to fight childhood cancer with the Rally Foundation The Rally Foundation is a non-profit based in Atlanta that works to raise money for research toward a cure, new and innovative treatments, and to help support families as they battle childhood cancer. It’s not limited to any type of cancer. Any childhood cancer is a challenge Rally, and Beasley, are ready to take on. For more, check out the entire entry at the Falcoholic.

Baltimore Ravens: Anthony Levine Sr. is using a rivalry to raise money for students Not only are the Baltimore Ravens going head-to-head against the Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend, but a player from both teams are competing to raise money for their respective charities! Anthony Levine Sr. and Martavis Bryant are going against one another in an attempt to raise more money for charity. For more, check out the entire entry at Baltimore Beatdown.

Buffalo Bills: Bills players support a variety of charities Buffalo Rumblings put together a running list of the causes the players donate their time and money to. Here’s one of many: LeSean McCoy is a community leader through his foundation Shades of Greatness, Inc. He assists people and families suffering from ALS, also known as Lou Gehrig’s disease. He’s held four annual charity softball games, the most recent two at Frontier Field in Rochester, NY. For more, check out the entire entry at Buffalo Rumblings.

Carolina Panthers: Charles Johnson gives back to Georgia hometown and to Charlotte One of Johnson’s biggest areas of service has been providing college scholarships to high school students at his alma mater, Hawkinsville High School. Johnson’s charitable actions don’t just apply to the Hawkinsville, GA area, either. He’s also done some good work in the Charlotte community. He’s currently in the process of a $3.3 million project to convert an old firehouse in Charlotte to a restaurant. He’s also built affordable housing units for seniors in both Columbia and Rock Hill, SC and has plans to build more of them in the future. For more, check out the entire entry at Cat Scratch Reader.

Chicago Bears: The team’s charitable arm highlights the players’ good deeds Jordan Howard is involved with the Pulmonary Fibrosis Foundation. Former Bear great, Charles Tillman, has his Cornerstone Foundation. Sam Acho and his family does missionary work in Nigeria. For more, check out the entire entry at Windy City Gridiron.

Cincinnati Bengals: Andy Dalton helps bring prom to people with disabilities From Carlos Dunlap’s unbelievable literacy campaign, to the Marvin Lewis Community Fund’s “Learning is Cool” initiative, to Michael Johnson and Dunlap’s Back to School fair, to dozens of other charitable endeavors Bengals players take part in around the community, rarely a week goes by without some form of community involvement from members of the Bengals’ organization. Last week was no different as Andy Dalton and his wife, Jordan Dalton, were special guests at The Royal Prom. The Daltons welcomed guests and took part in the evening’s activities. For more, check out the entire entry at Cincy Jungle.

Cleveland Browns: Players surprise local kids on youth flag football teams On Tuesday, three members of the Browns -- wide receivers Ricardo Louis and Rashard Higgins and safety Ibraheim Campbell — joined local members of the Cleveland Police and Fire Departments to surprise kids at their youth flag football practice outside Michael Zone Recreation Center. For more, check out the entire entry at Dawgs by Nature.

Dallas Cowboys: Cowboys participate in charitable work year round Blogging the Boys wanted to highlight a number of players on the team who are trying to make a difference. The Cowboys quarterback is one: Dak Prescott is doing work for finding a cure for cancer. It’s a personal issue for him. “Losing my mom, only a sophomore in college, 20 years old,” Prescott said on ABC’s Good Morning America. “Everything I do in life is to try to honor my mom.” “It takes a community to fight cancer,” says the Ready Raise Rise website. “Ready. Raise. Rise. is spreading the word about Immuno-Oncology research and bringing together everyone impacted by the disease to support the community.” For more, check out the entire entry at Blogging the Boys.

Denver Broncos: Brandon Marshall is creating positive change in the community After he first kneeled for the anthem on Sept. 8, 2016, Marshall met with Denver police chief Robert White in what began an ongoing dialogue between urban communities around Denver and the local police. He also pledged to donate $300 for every tackle last season to local organizations committed to addressing “critical social issues.” And for the past two years, Marshall has organized an Attendance Challenge at local elementary schools, encouraging kids to go to school, learn and use their education. For more, check out the entire entry at Mile High Report.

Detroit Lions: Glover Quin’s activism and humanitarian efforts are impressive Now in his ninth year in the NFL, Quin has fought for a laundry list of causes throughout his career. He’s held benefits for domestic violence victims, he rallied other Lions players to help donate over 36,000 bottles of water to Flint, and he even helped raise money for his old high school, which was in need for funds to support a basketball team. For more, check out the entire entry at Pride of Detroit.

Green Bay Packers: The Packers Foundation does good work around the state The Packers organization itself is an integral part of the Brown County community and is active throughout the state of Wisconsin through the Packers Foundation. Details on the foundation can be found on the team’s website. In a nutshell, non-profit organizations around the state who fall into the team’s rotating focus areas can request funding to help further their goals in the community. In 2016 alone, the foundation donated over $800,000 to various charitable organizations. Although the team itself is active in the community, there are plenty of individual players who have special causes and efforts that they support. For more, check out the entire entry at Acme Packing Company.

Houston Texans: J.J. Watt raises $37 million for Hurricane Harvey relief What Watt was able to accomplish, in large part due to the kindness of strangers, presumably the vast majority of whom aren’t Texans fans, was astounding. The final tally: $37,098,248.00 from more than 209,000 donations. For more, check out the entire entry at Battle Red Blog.

Indianapolis Colts: The team participates in Community Tuesdays While most NFL players have their own individual charitable foundations or focus on providing their support a specific charity, they also often participate as a team to give back to the community. In Indianapolis, the Colts get together on Tuesdays to find numerous ways to make a difference. For more, check out the entire entry at Stampede Blue.

Jacksonville Jaguars: Former Jaguar Sen’Derrick Marks took cancer patient to prom The Jacksonville Jaguars put a focus on community outreach and charitable contributions and there’s always a shelter getting help, hospitals getting visits, and more. But when thinking about all that Jaguars players have done around the city in recent years, one night stands out: Sen’Derrick Marks taking Khameyea Jennings to prom — and doing it in style. For more, check out the entire entry at Big Cat Country.

Kansas City Chiefs: Tyreek Hill surprises a local high school football team Imagine getting ready for high school football practice and you see the NFL’s fastest man showing up to surprise you. The Chiefs and Tyreek Hill did just that this week. For more, check out the entire entry at Arrowhead Pride.

Los Angeles Chargers: Melvin Gordon drops by to help high school football team Los Angeles Chargers star running back Melvin Gordon joined with the Southern California Helpful Honda Dealers to surprise a local southern California high school football team and specifically their placekicker, the only girl on the team, Jennifer. For more, check out the entire entry at Bolts from the Blue.

Los Angeles Rams: The Rams are doing charitable work, but they need an ambassador This is a franchise trying to rebuild, or build from scratch, a home fan base to fill the seats in the Coliseum and ultimately the seats in their new home when it opens in 2020. The focus on building the on-field product is certainly justified. But for the Los Angeles Rams to really, truly be home, they need someone who can really represent the ethos of the team and live the brand in an authentic and personal way outside the safe space of the Rams’ meeting space or playing fields. For more, check out the entire entry at Turf Show Times.

Miami Dolphins: Michael Thomas has done a little bit of everything off the field Thomas was clearly the leader in trying to organize efforts to collect donations to send to his native Houston for Hurricane Harvey relief. He has been involved with the First Step Program, a program designed to link local area kids with community leaders. He has worked with the Broward County Sheriff’s Office to conduct a ride along and work on the relationship between the police and the community. He has worked with the Big Brothers and Big Sisters of Miami. He has worked with Food for the Hungry. For more, check out the entire entry at the Phinsider.

Minnesota Vikings: The team is committed to helping children And we certainly couldn’t talk about all the good the Vikings have done in the community without mentioning the Vikings Children’s Fund, which is now the Minnesota Vikings Foundation. The Vikings Children’s Fund enhanced the lives of numerous children in the Twin Cities over the years, and the Minnesota Vikings Foundation looks ready to continue that legacy by concentrating on getting children up and active in our increasingly sedentary society. For more, check out the entire entry at the Daily Norseman.

New England Patriots: Players help build a new playground Rookies Adam Butler and Deatrich Wise teamed up with Geneo Grissom and veteran David Harris to help carry woodchips, assemble playground equipment, and paint decorations for the park. This is the eighth consecutive year the Patriots have helped with this program. For more, check out the entire entry at Pats Pulpit.

New Orleans Saints: Players regularly pitch in around the New Orleans area Here’s a look at just some of the things the Saints have done and are doing in the month of September to make an impact. A Community STEM Fest is set for Sept. 30, which is set to feature over 2,000 students and teachers throughout the region to promote the education day. Brandon Coleman has a put out an experience package for a home game that you can bid on that benefits the Alzheimer’s Association. On Sept. 19, Cam Jordan visited Smothers Academy in Jefferson, La. to help promote reading. On Sept. 20, Landon Turner visited Faith Lutheran School in Harahan, La. for the play football experience and to promote NFL Play 60. That same day, Brandon Coleman visited Sojourner Truth Neighborhood Center in New Orleans to celebrate National Healthy Lunch Day with the American Diabetes Association. For more, check out the entire entry at Canal Street Chronicles.

New York Giants: The team helps families fighting childhood cancer One of the primary things the Giants do is support the Tom Coughlin Jay Fund. The Landon Collins Charity Softball Game was held in the summer for that purpose, and Giants players still attend the annual Jay Fund dinner in New York City. For more, check out the entire entry at Big Blue View.

New York Jets: The Jets are trying to stop bullying There are a number of specific areas where the team has been active. One such area is promoting anti-bullying. The Jets have taken on a number of initiatives and will present a $100,000 check this Sunday to the STOMP Out Bullying Organization. The team has also holds symposiums for educators to deal with bullying. For more, check out the entire entry at Gang Green Nation.

Oakland Raiders: Players call attention to social issues and give back to the community Bruce Irvin sat with arms interlocked during the anthem Sunday night in Washington along with his defensive line teammates in response to Donald Trump’s recent comments on the NFL player protests. The following day he and those same teammates pictured above volunteered at the UCSF Benioff Children’s Hospital in Oakland. For more, check out the entire entry at Silver and Black Pride.

Philadelphia Eagles: Chris Long is helping fund scholarships in Charlottesville Philadelphia Eagles defensive end Chris Long is donating his first six game checks of the 2017 NFL season to fund scholarships in his hometown of Charlottesville, Virginia. Long is partnering with the Boys & Girls Clubs of Central Virginia and St. Anne’s Belfield School to provide two seven-year scholarships to Virginia middle school students. For more, check out the entire entry at Bleeding Green Nation.

Pittsburgh Steelers: Alejandro Villanueva will donate money from jersey sales to USO Villanueva is donating all money from his jersey sales to the USO and other military non-profit organizations, something he has reportedly always done. However, with his new-found popularity, Villanueva’s donation might be much larger than it normally is. For more, check out the entire entry at Behind the Steel Curtain.

San Francisco 49ers: Pierre Garçon continues to raise funds for Haiti relief Garçon is of Haitian descent, and he has used his platform to help Haiti in its continued efforts to rebuild after the 2010 earthquake. It’s been seven years, but the country still has a lot of work to do. Garçon has used his foundation to, “bring enduring education, health and community programs to the people of Haiti; to provide long-term sustainable initiatives that will continue to positively influence the lives of Haitians.” For more, check out the entire entry at Niners Nation.

Seattle Seahawks: Tyler Lockett wants to help kids enjoy their childhood Lockett made an appearance at White Center Heights Elementary in Seattle, unveiling a new playground for their Head Start program, thanks to a $15,000 grant from UnitedHealthcare to Lockett’s Dreambuilders Foundation. Dreambuilders is described as: “a nonprofit organization that works with pro athletes across the country to help financially, physically and mentally-challenged kids receive the items, opportunities and equipment they need to reach their dreams.” For more, check out the entire entry at Field Gulls.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Bucs lend a hand with hurricane relief One of those Bucs is Jameis Winston, who’s always done a lot of community work, and he helped distribute food and donated gift cards to over 400 families affected by the hurricane. Each family received a whopping 35 pounds of food as part of the Food for Florida Disaster Food Assistance Program. For more, check out the entire entry at Bucs Nation.

Tennessee Titans: Players support National Baby Safety Month Several Titans players took time earlier this week to visit St. Thomas Rutherford Hospital to promote safe sleep with infants. “Here at Saint Thomas Rutherford Hospital, infant safety is our top focus,” said Angelique Dooley, RNC, nurse manager. “We make it a priority to educate new moms and dads from the time they arrive at the hospital until they are discharged home, including a birthday party in which we actively discuss safe sleep practices, as well as other safety concerns. We are so excited to partner with the Tennessee Titans to bring awareness to our community on safe sleep practices.” For more, check out the entire entry at Music City Miracles.

Washington: Vernon Davis is involved in numerous ways to help his hometown of D.C. Vernon’s Closet, a recent event designed to raise awareness and support for the homeless, provided an opportunity for the player to talk a little bit about his sometimes turbulent upbringing and his goals for his city. “It is my desire to use Vernon’s Closet as a way to raise more awareness to homelessness; especially among D.C. area youth and hopefully encourage others to get involved as well,” Davis said.

Yep, a bunch of gang bangers.....

Matt

From: tonyo6302
02-Feb-18
Again, "good straw man post, GG." There, I fixed it for you, PigDoc.

Ugh, PigDoc, I have not mentioned any race in any post of mine. Neither did Thumper.

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John Kerry was very brave, commanding the swift boat into the fray time and time again . . . .

Jimmy Carter waded into a nuclear reactor and shut it down, preventing a disaster. . . . .

The BTK Killer was a religious man . . . . .

But when they screw up, they don't get a pass just because of the good stuff they did

Same goes for the NFL. Take a knee, kiss my ass!

From: Bentstick81
02-Feb-18
Good post Tonyo. Every football player could give half their salary, to Charities, but if they can't stand for the Anthem, they can take a hike. JMO.

From: Grey Ghost
02-Feb-18
Nothing straw man about my post. It demonstrates there are clearly more players doing good things than there are knucklehead kneelers. But then, the prigs want to chastise the whole league for the actions of a few.

Matt

From: Bentstick81
02-Feb-18
BINGO!

From: tonyo6302
02-Feb-18
Grey Ghost,

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"One aw-shit will erase a thousand atta-boys."

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- Unknown U. S. Navy Chief Petty Officer

The NFL really racked up their count of "aw-shits" this year.

Your whole post was straw man. You changed the subject talking about players doing good things. That has nothing to do with the kneelers, and those players who sit silently by watching them kneel.

I did not see in the media any of the "good" active players protesting the kneelers.

From: Bentstick81
02-Feb-18
No one is saying that the NFL boys don't do good things. The one GOOD thing, THEY should do, is kneel.

From: tonyo6302
02-Feb-18
OK PigDoc, what races are not allowed to be called gang bangers?

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What races are allowed to be associated with the term gang bangers?

MS13? What are they?

Arian Nation, what are they?

Skinheads, what are they?

Crips, what are they?

Bloods, what are they?

Black Panthers, what are they?

ACLU, what are they?

Hells Angels, what are they?

Do they all not fit the description of gangs, therefore their members gang bangers?

If so, then Thumper should be commended for inclusion and diversity.

Inclusion and diversity are not racist.

And calling Thumper racist is profiling, and profiling is not politically correct. How dare you !!!!

Nice try, PigDoc.

From: Mad dog
02-Feb-18
Hey Pork Doc. Call me tommorow. You or ANYONE who has a bone to pick with me are going to SPEAK. CHECK YOUR PM. The bullshit is over. Mad Dog

From: Mad dog
02-Feb-18
Hey Pork Doc. Call me tommorow. You or ANYONE who has a bone to pick with me are going to SPEAK. CHECK YOUR PM. The bullshit is over. Mad Dog

From: Mad dog
02-Feb-18
Just sent the PORK Doc my.personal cell phone. Any.other assholes.wanna talk? Mad Dog

03-Feb-18
I'll watch the game in clear conscience. Go Eagles!

From: Grey Ghost
03-Feb-18
Nice try Tonyo.

The topic is about boycotting the NFL. Pointing out that there are far more good guys than bad in the NFL relates directly to the topic. No straw man there.

For a bunch of prigs who don't care about the NFL, you boys sure spend a lot of time proving otherwise.

Matt

From: Bentstick81
03-Feb-18
"The topic is about boycotting the NFL". But, you conveniently forgot to say why, "For kneeling during the National Anthem." It has nothing to do with how good of guys they are.

From: Bentstick81
03-Feb-18
KPC. There is nothing i can say that you will not spin out of proportion. We have been through that before. The topic was about the NFL, kneeling during the National Anthem. If the other sports kneel, then i will not watch them either. There isn't any pro sport, worth watching. I personally hope, that all Pro sports go bankrupt. JMO

From: BIG BEAR
03-Feb-18
How about college sports ?? How about sending your daughter to Michigan State and hang out with the basketball and football players ??

From: tonyo6302
03-Feb-18
How about you, BIG BEAR, just remember that the next time you see the flag draped across a dead cops casket, how the kneelers disrespected that flag, and that you thought it was no big deal.

From: BIG BEAR
03-Feb-18
I can't stand the fact that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and sunk the ship that my grandfather served on.....

Should I boycott Japanese cars ?? Should I be pissed off at any of you who buy Japanese cars ??

What if one college player takes a knee ?? What if one high school player takes a knee....?? (It already happened).....

America is a great nation where men and women risk their lives to provide freedom for people to act like assholes.... and there are assholes everywhere......

I'll be at a super bowl party.

From: Owl
03-Feb-18
There are 2 perfectly rational perspectives and reactions to this issue.

From: tonyo6302
03-Feb-18

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Some people will not be at the super bowl party.

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Like Officer Lorne Aherns, his son standing in the photo.

From: tonyo6302
03-Feb-18

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. . . or Debra Clayton . . .

From: tonyo6302
03-Feb-18

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. . . or Michael Crane . . . . .

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03-Feb-18

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. . . . or Paul Touzzoulo . . . .

From: BIG BEAR
03-Feb-18
Or Detroit Officer Glen Doss Jr. Who was buried yesterday.....

Thank you for your support of the Police Tony.

I think Glen would have ignored the haters and enjoyed the game with friends and family....

From: tonyo6302
03-Feb-18

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. . . nor this officer from New Jersey . . .

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People on this and other threads bitch and moan, call us prigs, and claim that some of us paint the NFL with a wide paint brush because of a select few.

Well, where are the active players denouncing the kneelers?

But some here, think it is OK that a select few millionaire football players drop to a knee, disrespect the flag, and paint all Police Officers with a broad paint brush.

Well, I won't have any part of that. Tell the high paid crybabies to go to another country and try to make a living playing football, and disrespecting that countrys flag.

Nope - kneeling is not tolerable to me. Not one bit.

From: Grey Ghost
03-Feb-18
"I think Glen would have ignored the haters and enjoyed the game with friends and family...."

As will the majority of the LEOs shown in those pics, BB.

Matt

From: BIG BEAR
03-Feb-18
The party I'm going to is cops and dispatchers..... ignore the haters.....

From: Grey Ghost
03-Feb-18
BB, do you think any of our active military will be watching the game tomorrow?

Matt

From: BIG BEAR
03-Feb-18
Yes

From: Grey Ghost
03-Feb-18
Me too.

Matt

From: Bentstick81
03-Feb-18
Tonyo. We have watched the democrats $hit on our Police, Military, and flag for the last eight years. Can't expect anything different.

From: BIG BEAR
03-Feb-18
Half of the country voted for Hillary Clinton....... You pretty much can't escape that anywhere.......

I can ignore the select few football players that disrespect the flag and disrespect Police Officers..... Just like I can ignore half of America who are liberals and hate Trump no matter what.

From: HA/KS
04-Feb-18

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From: Owl
04-Feb-18
My dog tried to have a kitten bowl last night. Of course, his thoughts were leaning more towards a bowl of ramen than a cultural sporting event. :) He had the prettiest white cat treed in our back pasture. lol

From: Bowbender
04-Feb-18
Still trying to figure out how this whole boycott thing works..... So we don't watch a three hour game because of our "principles", but when asked about using products that are advertised during the Super Bowl, well.... they shift from foot to foot, stare at the floor, clear their throat a little and mumble something about "what choice do we have?"

What choice do you have? Well standing on principles means more than taking a sanctimonious, name calling stance on a bowhunting site. It means actually putting words into action on stance or principle you so clearly hold dear. It means actually being uncomfortable or making a sacrifice because of your stance. So you don't watch a football game. BFD..... What a sacrifice.

Here is a list of companies to boycott. May cause some minor discomfort, but hey....principles.

http://yellowhammernews.com/nationalpolitics/liberal-companies-business-regular-basis/

And another.

http://fortune.com/2016/06/06/fortune-500-companies-loved-by-liberals/

Get back to me from your cave, via snail mail, no internet. Oh, hope you don't get sick. And I thought the NFL was filled with whiners.

From: BIG BEAR
04-Feb-18
Bingo Bowbender.... I hope that none of the boycotters are driving foreign trucks or cars..... what a disgrace to our flag that would be...

From: Grey Ghost
04-Feb-18
Good post, Bowbender.

I'm still trying to figure out if the thousands of active military personnel who will be watching the game today, while they break from fighting for our freedom, should they be considered "unpatriotic" or "unprincipled"?

Maybe one of the prigs can explain.

Matt

From: BIG BEAR
04-Feb-18
Or the 15 Medal of Honor winners who will be flipping the coin at the game......

Who here wants to call them unpatriotic ???

04-Feb-18
I will not watch!!!!

From: Bentstick81
04-Feb-18
BB. That will be the high light of the game. I will watch that, then switch channels.

From: HA/KS
04-Feb-18
Just in general, super bowl tends to be a pretty boring game with the added minus of more distractions and less football than most.

Most of the years, it was a great day to hunt geese or ice fish.

From: BIG BEAR
04-Feb-18

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They just showed a clip of Tom Brady's family watching football in his grandfathers pole barn in Minnesota...... Deer heads And caribou on the walls..... good Americans !!

From: BIG BEAR
04-Feb-18
I just saw an interview with Chris Long.... Howies boy. Chris won a Super Bowl last year with the Patriots... and will play against them as an Eagle this year.........

Chris Long played in the NFL for free this year. He donated his entire salary to multiple charities......

Seems like a pretty damn good man to me.

From: bigswivle
04-Feb-18
I'll watch it. Good excuse for some grill time. The commercials are the only thing I enjoy about it.

From: BIG BEAR
04-Feb-18
My wife has ribs in the oven to take to the party we're going to.... We're under a winter weather advisory with snow coming down... She volunteered to be the DD tonight so I can have a few beers with the boys... We're only staying until halftime because of the weather....

From: HA/KS
04-Feb-18
"If this (Superbowl) is the ultimate game, why are they playing it again next year?"

Duane Thomas 1972 Superbowl VI

From: Bentstick81
04-Feb-18
I see where Trump donated his third quarter earnings, to HHS to combat opioid epidemic. Just saying. Once again, no one is saying a thing about the players, and their donations, as the reasons for not watching the game.

From: BIG BEAR
04-Feb-18
Yeah but you aren't just boycotting the kneelers by not watching..... you're boycotting Chris Long and all the good guys in the NFL too......

What if you find out that there are employees at General Motors who fully support the kneelers (I'll bet there's plenty)..... Will you boycott General Motors ??

From: Bentstick81
04-Feb-18
There are times i wish i could boycott GM, especially the cost on my truck, and parts. 8^) But i have to admit, GM makes darn nice, dependable trucks.

From: HA/KS
04-Feb-18

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From: HA/KS
04-Feb-18

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From: tonyo6302
04-Feb-18

tonyo6302's Link
Super Bowl protesters to take a knee in Minneapolis with rally against police brutality - see the link.

From: Thumper
04-Feb-18
"Or the 15 Medal of Honor winners who will be flipping the coin at the game...... Who here wants to call them unpatriotic ???"

Talk about hypocritical NFL, the DOD has paid millions to the NFL for their military support themed half time shows and fly overs. How mush is the DOD paying for this one, or is this one free? Black Panthers preforming again this year at half time?

Pig doc/Big Bear, your state and local police forces do not hire gang bangers into their ranks, does this make them racists? But the NFL does with open arms, then you want to exonerate the whole NFL by the good deeds of a few others. SMH

The NFL has lost a lot of long time viewers, and seem to be gaining numbers who support gang bangers. Sorry, I can no longer support the NFL.

From: shiloh
04-Feb-18
Rick Flair 30 for 30 on ESPN. I don’t even care for wrestling at all, but it’s been interesting. Watching it in lieu of the SB.

From: Rocky
04-Feb-18
GG,

You must get tired from being wrong on a daily and consecutive basis. Remember this quote from you after my prediction......"for preservation's sake".

Preserve it slick. Nick Foles MVP.

The Rock

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
Thumper..... It doesn't matter how much the NFL paid.......

Not one of those 15 Medal of Honor recipients had to be there. Each and every one of them could have decided to boycott the NFL and not go there........

They all chose to attend.

I hope they did get paid. But if they were boycotting like you,,,, Then no amount of money could have changed their minds to make them attend.

From: Grey Ghost
05-Feb-18
The Rock,

Yep, your boy Foles played well, and good call on the MVP award.

Did you happen to see Brady's stats? Not that it matters since he lost, but he didn't suck.

The Matt

From: rdohn
05-Feb-18
Did not watch went to the pistol range with the wife and two nephews which are both Army vets. Had a Blast shooting USA made Diamond Back guns. Congratulations to the Eagles and Foles. I will Watch next year if the oppressed ones stop the bullshit and the NFL mans up and addresses the issues.

From: Bowbender
05-Feb-18
“I will Watch next year if the oppressed ones stop the bullshit and the NFL mans up and addresses the issues.”

Still gonna buy from the sponsers and advertisers that funded the oppressed’s bullshit?

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18

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These guys were there....

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18

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BIG BEAR's embedded Photo
Anybody here want to piss on Medal of Honor recipients ??

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18

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Nobody kneeling here....

From: Glunt@work
05-Feb-18
I'm not a pro sports fan but did see some of it while at my brother's party after my son's hockey games. Seemed like there was a heavy multicultural/social justice theme with commercials. Based on how it played out, I'm guessing pro football fans loved the game.

The NFL probably won some folks back who hadn't been watching as much but tuned in for the big game.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18

BIG BEAR's embedded Photo
BIG BEAR's embedded Photo
Pink sang the National Anthem beautifully.... with the flu...

From: Glunt@work
05-Feb-18
In a camo skirt

From: tonyo6302
05-Feb-18

tonyo6302's Link
"Anybody here want to piss on Medal of Honor recipients ?? "

.. ..

.. ..

Probably about the same amount that want to piss on the widows of dead cops, would be my guess.

From the Link;

Disabled Navy vet refuses to receive award from Saints over national anthem protests

“Although I am touched and honored to be selected for such an award, the ongoing controversy with NFL players' disrespect for the national flag forces me to decline to participate in the presentation,” Wells said. "I am unable, in good conscience, to enter an NFL stadium while this discourtesy prevails. Since this award is tainted with the dishonorable actions of the NFL and its players, I cannot accept it.”

Wells served in the Navy from 1972 to 1994 and afterward became an attorney concentrating in military and veterans law, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune. He was set to receive the award given by Medicare to senior citizens who have made significant accomplishments.

But BIGBEAR, the thread is still open if you want to post some more bullshit . . . . . .

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
That's his choice just like it is yours ......

I appreciate your support of the Police......

I don't think it's bullshit that those Medal of Honor recipients chose to attend the game either.... It was their choice and I respect it.

What are your thoughts on them attending ???

From: tonyo6302
05-Feb-18
I agree with Commander Wells. You had to ask . . . . ?

I don't think it is bull shit that the MOH recipients chose to attend, either. They are exercising their choice, and being used as a political pawn in my humble opinion.

I wonder, just exactly how many Super Bowls were 15 Medal of Honor recipitants invited?

Yes, I do support Law Enforcement, as I had an Uncle and Grandfather that were LEOs. Proud that you serve, too, BIG BEAR. Those who are City Cops see the very worst of society all the time, have a very huge suicide rate, and ya'll are in my prayers constantly.

But, I can parlay some bullshit too . . . .

John Kerry, the former candidate for President, and former Secretary of State, was awarded a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts.

Lyndon B. Johnson, was awarded the Silver Star by General MacArthur.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
So what are you saying about those 15 men ?? Each one of them was free to boycott the NFL.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
Jeff... your article said it was the 6th highest ratings ever for a Super Bowl.......

From: Grey Ghost
05-Feb-18
LOL! Over 100 million viewers, not including bars, restaurants, SB parties, and web streaming.

Yeah, the NFL is on its last leg.

Matt

From: tonyo6302
05-Feb-18
I did not say a thing about any MOH recipients, other than I agree with Commander Wells.

I did not say they were not free to choose. Don't try to put words in my mouth.

What I did say, which was a question, of which you promptly ignored, is;

"I wonder, just exactly how many Super Bowls were 15 Medal of Honor recipitants invited? "

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
Tony...... You parlayed some bullshit by mentioning John Kerry and Lyndon B. Johnson.... Why would you even mention them if it were not to possibly bring these great men down to their level ???

Of COURSE the NFL is trying to deflect from the bad press it got and sinking ratings from the kneelers......

Of COURSE a good way to do that is to align itself as much as possible with the military.......

But each one of those Medal of Honor recipients could have made the exact same decision you and JTV did. They did not. They chose to ignore the kneelers and attend the Super Bowl............

If you guys want to be pissed off at the world for ignoring the kneelers and watching the NFL anyways...... Then you must be pissed off at these 15 American War Heros......

From: Grey Ghost
05-Feb-18
And, perhaps the most ironic twist...Trump hosted a Super Bowl party, including a private performance by college cheerleaders. MAGA!!

Matt

From: sleepyhunter
05-Feb-18
""Anybody here want to piss on Medal of Honor recipients ??""

No I would not. Why the question? Are you implying if a person did not watch the SB, he or she dislike members of the Armed forces? You're seriously mistaken if you are. The SB/NFL/AFL is insignificant compared to the Armed forces IMO.

From: Fivers
05-Feb-18
I kept switching the channel to check the score, then it turned into a good game and I ended up leaving it on to the end.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
Sleepy..... It has been said on this thread that anyone watching the Super Bowl is siding with the NFL over our country........

I say we are siding with those 15 Medal of Honor recipients..... in ignoring the kneelers......

From: Sage Buffalo
05-Feb-18
Trump hosted a SB party as stated above. You can't hate the NFL and then throw a SB party. Too funny.

He said he did it for the cheerleaders (as he's looking for a replacement).

From: tonyo6302
05-Feb-18
BIG BEAR,

Glad that you admitted that the NFL used the MOH guys.

You still have not answered the question, "How many Super Bowls did 15 MOH Recipients get invited to?"

"If you guys want to be pissed off at the world for ignoring the kneelers and watching the NFL anyways"

It seems like to me, I am not the one getting pissed.

I mentioned John Kerry and President Johnson, as a means to show you that it is not a requirement to follow any hero lock step politically. That the 15 attended the Super Bowl does not take away from their heroics.

Nor does it take away the fact that the NFL used those vets to deflect their own actions - hence my political agreement with Commander Wells.

That John Kerry denounced his decorations and supposedly threw them over the White House fence does not take away from the fact that he was a combat decorated Sailor.

So, all that I posted was true to the best of my knowledge. My opinions are also true to the best of my research and beliefs.

So, continue to get pissed if ya want, nothing will change the fact that I agree with Commander Wells.

So, merely trying to open up your blinded eyes, my question once again is, "How many Super Bowls did 15 MOH Recipients get invited to?"

From: gflight
05-Feb-18
Trump is good with taxpayers paying for their stadiums, why not throw a sb party?

We can now call non-sb viewers the 3%....

From: sleepyhunter
05-Feb-18
""Glad that you admitted that the NFL used the MOH guys.""

Exactly. The NFL inviting the MOH veterans to the SB for public relations purposes was a failure, even though they probably had a wonderful time. The entire stadium could have been filled with Armed forces personnel free of charge, even with that action it could not erase the poor behavior the NFL allowed during the entire season.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
I'm not pissed at all.... I don't know the answer to your question but I would guess that this is the first time they asked the MOH recipients to attend the Super Bowl.......

I readily admit that the NFL is using the military to improve its public image. Is that a bad thing ????

Once again........ No Military personnel..... Active Duty or Veteran..... was ever forced to attend the Super Bowl or to watch it......

You are free to agree with Commander Wells as I am free to agree with the 15 Medal of Honor recipients... who chose to ignore the kneelers and attend the Super Bowl...

From: HA/KS
05-Feb-18

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From: Sixby
05-Feb-18
The depth of BS and ignorance is simply unbelieveable. I feel so sorry that the NFL chose to exploit those wonderful men. However that does not reflect on those exploited. I would bet most of them never even thought about anything but perhaps being a part of peace making. My attendance would not help at all but a MOH winners? That could be why the respect was shown. The NFL is looking for an easy way out. Lets see if it happens. However I know and some others know the direction they come from and will have nothing to do with them. One sailor was on watch. Thats a good thing. IMHO most of the rest were victims.

God bless, Steve

From: Grey Ghost
05-Feb-18
"When did Trump say he hated the NFL? I must have missed that."

I don't think he ever did say he hated it. But, he did advocate boycotting the NFL, which only escalated the kneeling for a few weeks.

Matt

From: Rocky
05-Feb-18
Inviting those sacred hero's to the SB was a blatant and shameful exploitation to polish a tarnished image that was a self created miscalculation by the NFL. Once under the belief that you are omnipotent, as the NFL had believed they were, the banana peel is just waiting for your next step. They brashly took that step and realized their mortality. Inviting the MOH hero's was the next obvious step for the NFL to show to all that Red, White and Blue is the true color of money, not the flag, and lost income that must be recouped by any means, sincerely or otherwise.

The Rock

The Rock

From: sleepyhunter
05-Feb-18
""I readily admit that the NFL is using the military to improve its public image. Is that a bad thing ????""

I guess we'll see next season. It's over now and the attention will fade away. If the players stop kneeling, I'll forgive and forget and move on.

From: Bowbender
05-Feb-18
"If the players stop kneeling, I'll forgive and forget and move on."

Here that sigh of relief from the NFL?

Yeah....me neither.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
Exploitation ?? Really ?? Come on Rock..... was it exploitation when President Trump paraded military and Police into the State of the Union Speech ?? What was the reason for them being there ?? To make him look good. Period. And I don't have a problem with it.....

In both cases; People who deserved recognition got it; They were treated with the respect they deserve and most likely had a very nice all expense paid trip....

From: Mad dog
05-Feb-18
UPDATE BOYS. PIG-DICK Never took me up on a nice phone call and I gave him my personal cell. Another pussy liberal. Johnny one note. Not surprised. He also called MY city, NYC, a shit hole. Go fuck yourself. We don't FLEE our home turf. We fight for it queer boy. NYC and the 5 boros my home. YOU wouldn't last 5 minutes here G. Mad Dog

From: Mad dog
05-Feb-18
Wanna go hang in Brownsville? Me & Mike Tyson meet u there. South Bronx? Corona? East New York? Nah son. Didn't think so. This PUSSY, told me I could "go fuck myself....he was going skiing" HOMO. are you bringing Tom Hanks & Justin Timberlake a mocha latte? You guys are are punk ass white boys. Mad Dog

From: Bowbender
05-Feb-18

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Saved for all to see. Here is the immaturity that runs rampant on what used to be a place of mature (mostly) debate.
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Saved for all to see. Here is the immaturity that runs rampant on what used to be a place of mature (mostly) debate.
Wow.....just wow. this is what passes for intellectual discourse on the Bowsite. Putting that law school education to good use, I see. Take a long sip of grow the hell up Grumpy Puppy.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
^^^ Yikes.......

From: HA/KS
05-Feb-18
My wife an I had a Super Bowl party, but didn't watch the game. The snacks were really good, though.

From: sleepyhunter
05-Feb-18
""Here that sigh of relief from the NFL? ""

The NFL was concerned with their image. Otherwise they would have not put on the PR show with the MOH vets.

From: TD
05-Feb-18
NFL screwed up. They know it. It will be dealt with in the off season, just like the stupid catch rule.......

Personally I would have been disappointed if they DIDN'T do something to help make up for the screw up. If they just figured on waiting it out. Instead they tried to fix it, make amends as best they could. It is what it is. I don't see it as a "bad" thing.....

Was a GREAT game BTW..... one of the best ever. Glad I watched it......

From: BIG BEAR
05-Feb-18
Bingo !!! ^^^^

From: Owl
06-Feb-18
TDx2. I'm glad to see the NFL take overt public measures to contradict the kneelers. On their highest stage, they let everyone know which they stand with on the issue.

Mad dog, there's no need for that language on a publicly viewed forum (or any forum for that matter). Bowbender, there's no need to capture it for posterity. You are both disgracing yourselves.

06-Feb-18
Im in the "I can't stand the kneelers" crowd as well. That being said, these MOH men did what they did so these knuckleheads have the freedom to be stupid. We may not like it, but that's what freedom is all about. I'd rather look around at all the great things these MEN of HONOR have made possible for me, than the few idiots that steal all the attention.

From: Rocky
06-Feb-18
MD, Punk ass white boys? Speaking for myself and coming to the plate whats behind that?

The Rock

From: BIG BEAR
06-Feb-18
I'm not the one getting pissed either Tony...... Read yesterday's posts and you'll see who's getting pissed here.......

From: tonyo6302
06-Feb-18
OK, my bad, apologies extended your way.

From: BIG BEAR
06-Feb-18
No need to apologize..... I really don't understand someone getting so angry over this. Everyone can make up their own mind and either boycott the NFL or ignore the kneelers and don't boycott.... It's not worth getting that angry over.......

Its like giving yourself an ulcer because half of the country voted for Hillary Clinton.....

From: rdohn
06-Feb-18
Big Bear nicely put! We have the freedom thanks to our veterans to watch or not watch. Either way you choose is good!

From: Thumper
07-Feb-18
"Thumper shows his true racist colors - again."

You think? This whole NFL kneeling protest is about how the police treat only black gang members, its nothing more than an Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson corporate shake down for 100's of millions of dollars to help only blacks. Pig-doc, you need to look up the definition of racist.

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