Does "Go Fund Me" belong on the Bowsite?
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Some "Go fund Me" 's are ridiculous- like a kid trying to get money to go to a movie or something . Others are good or bad for various reasons, and I think most of us will help out friends when we know their situations need some genuine help, whether we see it on a website like GFM or just hear about it on a message board like this. I have a friend who is up a creek at the moment, and I'm trying to help him from a few states away by using that resource- He's been my bowhunting partner for almost 40 years, so I'm wondering if that's a legit enough reason to post on the main Bowsite page, or even if Pat Allows that sort of thing. I figured I could post it here on this forum because it's an anything goes forum- so have a look and tell me what you think. Moderators- ok in the Big game forum, or no? https://www.gofundme.com/stevebrownhome
You don't want to go fund my Yukon moose hunt?? Heartless I tell you!
I wouldn't give money to any of that crap. If you need welfare, then go to social services.
Dale, your friend seems like a good guy who's just trying to take care of his family and has had some rough stuff thrown at him. He's a fellow bowhunter in need, not a welfare case and anyone that takes time to read his story can see that. Prayers sent for him and his family. You're a good friend for helping him out. People that aren't willing to help out others are often the first ones looking for a hand out when tough times come knocking. God bless.
"I wouldn't give money to any of that crap. If you need welfare, then go to social services."
Really? So if a good friend of yours gets cancer, and in trying to keep up with the medical bills they are now in danger of losing their home. If a family friend puts up a fund donation page to help them out, you'd tell them to go suck eggs because you ".....wouldn't give money to any of that crap".
I'd like to think you would donate what you could, and you'd also come to realize that the need is not "crap".
Or, ya could just be a schmuck, but keep in mind that if you and your family ever are facing disaster, please feel free to try and survive on your own. Of course, you can always go get yerself some welfare.
I would say it depends on the situation.
And I also STRONGLY disagree with foxbo's BS post! He should be ashamed of himself!
In late 2016, mn archer told us about a fellow Bowsiter and USN veteran who we'd shared a hunt with who was suffering horribly from PTSD to the degree he and his amazing wife and children were living in a camper in the back yard of a friend's home.
There was a Go Fund Me option and within two weeks or so, Bowsiters alone raised more than the GoFundMe goal of $10,000! TSI graciously donated a free bear hunt for a Bowsite auction, which a fellow Bowsiter bought for over $2,000, then he donated it back where it sold again for $1,400.
So YES, in the right situation, the GoFundMe option can be a great thing!
The only time I've contributed was when one of the men on the hunting forum had a good friend fall from a tree stand. The gentleman suffered serious spinal injuries. He appeared to be a good family man. I certainly didn't mind doing something for a fellow outdoorsman even if I've never met him. It's a personal choice if you choose to contribute or not.... Right foxbo? Gene
I've battled cancer hoss. I've had three bouts of melanoma and now am dealing with prostate cancer since four years ago. I've paid my way thru insurance and co-pays and will continue to do so. And that's right. I will not give to a go fund me page.
"I've battled cancer hoss. I've had three bouts of melanoma and now am dealing with prostate cancer since four years ago. I've paid my way thru insurance and co-pays and will continue to do so. And that's right. I will not give to a go fund me page. "
I'm sorry you've become so jaded by life. Not all people are out to take advantage of you. Seriously though, I wish you good luck fighting the cancer.
I pay my own way and have never asked for help from anyone. I've had some mighty weak periods, but have always gotten by, but in come cases, most leanly.
I know of a person who has seven go fund me pages and all of her crap is BS. But, people still give to her and she enjoys it. She's a lunatic with more smarts than the average person and she takes advantage or people
I, too, wish foxbo the best in dealing with his cancer.
But as to his claiming to be a conservative while crapping on VOLUNTARY, NON-GOVERNMENTAL support for those in need is something hard to fathom!
Go Fund Me keeps 2.9% plus $.30 per donation.
I have never donated through Go Fund Me, but if I believe in a cause there are always alternative ways to get help to where it is needed.
One problem with our connected world is that we now are affiliated with and/or aware of far more people, so the number of needs and requests that come to our attention is much larger than ever before in the history of mankind. Nobody I know has enough resources to respond to all calls for help.
My wife and I have specific ways we donate and causes/people we support. Beyond that, we consider each request or need individually. Many are worthy, but just not what we feel called to do.
May be that all those cancers you've had are karma to go along with your outlook on life and how you think of other people. Good luck with it though.
Bloomberg November 2017 "Currently, GoFundMe takes 5 percent of donations, and payment processors take 2.9 percent, along with 30 cents per donation. Under the new structure, the processing fees remain, but GoFundMe will no longer charge a fee for personal fundraising efforts in the U.S. Such campaigns make up the majority of activities on the site, according to the company.
Users will instead have the option to give the company a voluntary tip. The entire donation will go to the beneficiary of a campaign, but a drop-down menu will let those donating add 5 percent, 10 percent, or 15 percent on top of their donation, or a custom amount."
Rob, I don't need your good luck twist. You don't have a clue as to what I've been thru. So, don't try and pretend.
I'd prefer to get a email address for Mr. Brown and do a PayPal to him directly. There are no fees that way.
Matt
May be that all those cancers you've had are karma to go along with your outlook on life
You are one twisted sumbitch. I hope you never have to walk a day in my shoes. It must be so easy to reveal so much from one of my posts. If you were in front of me right now, my right foot would be in your a$$.
I have to ask, what circumstances has caused Mr. Brown to still be renting an apartment at 50+ years of age? Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with donating to a worthy recipient, but not if he's been irresponsible with his money for years.
Matt
foxbo,
Why, oh why, are you refusing to defend your first post here wherein you advocated people in need should go on welfare (thereby forcing taxpayers to cover their needs), and therefore crapping on them getting assistance from private parties, free of government, while you (falsely) claim to be a conservative?
I ain't defending crap. I still say If you need assistance then contact social services. If you want to contribute to go fund me pages, then do it. I will not. That's my stance and I won't budge.
Thanks Solo. I appreciate your support.
"If you were in front of me right now, my right foot would be in your a$$. " Now don't go getting all upset. You stated that you believed if someone needed help to go to social services. I stated that I think that karma is a real possibility and you took offense to my way of thinking. As far as your foot in my ass, it doesn't sound like you are in any condition to attempt such a feat. Lets just call it even and I really do hope you beat this cancer and never have to deal with it again.
Thanks Rob, but if I said I'd put a foot in your ass, I meant it and am fully capable. Don't sell either of us short. :)
Solo,
"Foxbo has the right to decline giving to any 'go fund me' for the reasons he cited. He didn't tell any of you not to give, so why berate him for not wanting to give?"
Problem!
That's not what he said!
He told people in need, and therefore people who might want to help of their own free will, that supporting GoFundMe requests is 'crap' and that anyone who needs help should go on welfare.
That is exactly the opposite of what conservatives believe.
Kyle, go pound sand, you stupid liberal bastard.
Grey Ghost- a couple pm's sent
""I have to ask, what circumstances has caused Mr. Brown to still be renting an apartment at 50+ years of age?""
Evidently you do not know many people in the construction trades. I have friends who everything when developers went belly up and home prices plummeted. You only here about the banks loss, not the thousands who's lien rights were 2nd behind the banks, lien rights vary from state to state. it was not only the trades people, but also their suppliers.
My brother's house burned between Christmas and New Year's. Total loss - vehicles, house, belongings...gone. A friend of them started a GFM page. I contributed obviously. Should I have instead told my brother and his family to not accept any of those funds but to go to social services? My mother died of cancer. Both my grandmothers, my aunt, my cousin and several other family friends died of cancer. My father had a go around with it earlier this year. None of them were too proud to turn away help when it was offered. I guess it was all crap...according to some.
"Evidently you do not know many people in the construction trades."
As an architect, custom home builder, and developer, I know plenty of folks in the construction trades. The market collapse a decade ago stung all of us. But, most of the successful tradesmen and contractors I know weathered the storm without losing their homes. The foolish ones, who were leveraged to their eyeballs thinking the good times would never end, didn't fair as well.
Matt
Still to this day I am amazed at the viciousness of people posting on the internet.
Saying I won't support people on Go Fund Me is one thing but telling someone they have battled cancer due to their outlook on life is a whole new level. Wow....
oh I see, the foolish ones who were for example plumbing, concrete work, roofing etc 100 homes or several apartments were foolish and made sure every employee got paid to the best of the abilities are foolish according to the CF's original pontificating better than.
Foxbo.....how are you doing with your cancer now?
I'd rather donate on the front end to END CANCER, than to a go fund me account on the back end. I just view it as more legitimate and less risk than some of these go fund me's...and you get to help many people rather than just one.
"Foxbo.....how are you doing with your cancer now?"
The melanomas were removed by a surgeon, two back in 2001 and one last year in January. So far, so good. I see a specialist every six months.
I'm on active surveillance for the prostate cancer which I learned of four years ago last December. I've had four biopsies with a fifth scheduled for July. I guess I'll have to receive treatment at some point, but for now, I'm just watching the time bomb living in my junk. It ain't easy. The medications are a killer with the side effects.
I sure hope I didn't offend too many of you guys with my statement concerning go fund me pages. I'm sure there are people who really need the help. I just happen to know of a family member who has seven pages going for her supposedly sick children. There's nothing wrong with the kids. The mother is just a crazy bits.
I also guess the bourbon was effecting me in a negative way. I am sorry.
Foxbo, no worries. Even though you don't care to donate to a "GoFundMe", I'd lay dollars to donuts you'd find another way to help family/friends in need.
Hope ya win that prostrate battle. I've heard that a large percentage of men over 60 have prostrate issues of one type or another, so hopefully modern medicine can find some effective treatments.
Thanks for the well wishes Mike. I do help people thru out the year as I am blessed to have extra funding, thru lots of hard work.
There are lots of people who have it worse than me. I feel sorry for them. I just keep kicking the can down the road and pray for the best.
Foxbo.....glad to see you're still kicking around. July will be 5 years post treatment for me.
John, glad to hear the post treatment news. What treatment method did you decide on?
What we see too seldom here and everywhere in life - someone taking responsibility for their own actions. Thanks, foxbo.
Thanks Henry. I ain't nothing special, but I am a truthful person, even when it's not convenient.
Fox, I had Hodgkins Lymphoma. I did the standard chemo and radiation treatment. I didn't catch mine till late so it had spread pretty good. Got a few permanent side effects but nothing I can't roll with. I was very close to going over the hill but I had a great response to the treatment. I do not have any complaints....lots of folks have it worse than I do.
Wow John! What you've experienced is worse than what I have. I sure hope you're doing well and are cured. I remember meeting a guy in the hospital who had the same thing as you. We were in the waiting room and Faith Hill came across the screen. I will never forget him saying, "I'd like to nail that!" It was then I realized that life doesn't have an ending, but lives on. When we die, nothing stops, except us. I wish you the very best my friend....foxbo.
Fox, thanks....I'm all good with whatever plays out. I had a "good" cancer with high cure rates. Control what ya can...roll with what ya can't. I always tell folks ya have to keep moving forward with life. Some of my drip buddies didn't make it with the cancer's they had. It's a bit of a reality check about life and priorities. Other than the side effects....I do not think about it too much anymore except when I talk or read about it. There were some funny experiences with the journey but that is for another day.
Good for you John! I'm so happy that you've come to grips with reality. There are no guarantees as you know.
My poor wife is taking two chemo shots weekly. I've been with her for 38 plus years. God, I love that girl. Life is shocking to say the least. I just hope I last longer than her as she'd be lost without me. Sucks!
Guys....cancer doesn't care about who it bites. I hate it. I just lost a former boss Sunday to lung cancer. Never smoked a day in his life. He was the smartest man I ever met and the kindest too. I will miss him. God bless all of you fighting this dreaded disease.
Foxbo,
My father was a person who would rather die than ask for or accept charity from strangers. To him, it signified weakness and failing to provide for himself. I admired that, and I share some of those sentiments.
That said, when people care about you enough to solicit charity from strangers for you, that speaks volumes to me, and I try to give it a proper consideration.
Matt
"My father was a person who would rather die than ask for or accept charity from strangers."
Matt, I'm kind of the same way as your father. I know it's a sin to not allow people to help, but I just have a problem with it. I don't want to beholding to anyone. If I die without help, then I'm dead without help. Probably was going to die anyway. Everyone does in the end....
