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05-Feb-18
The House Intel Committee has voted unanimously to make Dem counter-memo public. Question is, will trump allow it. Whats interesting is that the Nunes, Republican memo was voted on along party lines. Democratic memo is voted unanimously. Tribal politics at its finest.

From: JTV
05-Feb-18

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No, this is THE latest memo

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-02-02%20CEG%20LG%20to%20DOJ%20FBI%20(Unclassified%20Steele%20Referral).pdf

From: JTV
05-Feb-18

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/clinton-associates-fed-information-to-trump-dossier-author-steele-memo-says.html

Clinton associates were "feeding" allegations to former British spy Christopher Steele at the same time he was compiling the controversial anti-Trump dossier paid for by the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign, according to an unclassified memo from senior Senate Republicans who recently made a criminal referral.

Those Republicans, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., had asked the Justice Department in January to investigate Steele based on evidence they say suggests he lied to the FBI about his contacts with the media (a violation of 18 USC 1001) -- or the FBI misrepresented Steele’s statements.

The lawmakers are now asking the FBI for an emergency review of their criminal referral so it can be made public, with limited redactions.

Steele already is under scrutiny over the unverified Trump dossier, which a House Intelligence Committee document released last Friday alleged was at the heart of the FBI and DOJ’s request for a surveillance warrant for a Trump associate.

The memo from Grassley and Graham, which is now public for the first time, provides new insight into Steele’s circle of contacts during that time. While heavily redacted, the memo states Steele said he received information that came from "a foreign sub-source who 'is in touch with (redacted), a contact of (redacted), a friend of the Clintons, who passed it to (redacted).”

grassley graham split Sens. Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham have made a criminal referral regarding ex-British spy Christopher Steele.

"It is troubling enough that the Clinton Campaign funded Mr. Steele's work, but that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility," the senators wrote to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the Russia probe, and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

"...there is substantial evidence suggesting that Mr. Steele materially misled the FBI about a key aspect of his dossier efforts, one which bears on his credibility,” the senators wrote.

Entire sections of the memorandum were redacted by the FBI on the basis that it contained classified information, though a review of the document shows the FBI redacted references to media reporting, including a Washington Post story available on the Internet.

The senators are asking for a declassification review because much of the information was declassified by the president when the House Intelligence Committee memo was released Friday. The memo found the dossier was used to obtain a surveillance warrant on Trump campaign aide Carter Page -- and neither the FBI nor Justice Department told the national security court that it was financed by the DNC and Clinton campaign, and bureau contact with Steele was terminated over his contact with the media.

While the FBI fought the release of that memo, the senators also say the FBI’s claims “mischaracterize and misstate” the amount of classified information in the Steele referral. The senators are asking that the FBI and Justice Department “immediately review the classified referral in light of [Friday’s] declassification and provide the Committee with the declassified version by no later than February 6, 2018.”

In a heavily redacted Jan. 19 letter, Gregory A. Brower, assistant director for FBI congressional affairs, said the FBI "respects" the committee's commitment to transparency but the bureau "cannot and will not weaken its commitment" to protecting classified information because it is in the public domain.

Hillary Clinton REUTERS/Mario Anzuoni A Clinton family associate allegedly helped feed information to Christopher Steele. (Reuters)

"Public reporting about (redacted) does not affect the FBI's policy with respect to classification (redacted) nor does it diminish our obligations (redacted),” he wrote.

The House Intelligence Committee has long struggled with the FBI and Justice Department over access to Trump dossier and surveillance records. After August subpoenas were ignored, the committee threatened to hold Wray and Rosenstein in contempt of Congress before a deal was reached.

The memo detailing alleged surveillance abuse by the FBI and Justice Department was fully declassified after the committee followed a long-standing congressional rule which asks the president whether he objects to the record's release. In this case, the president exercised his powers as commander-in-chief to immediately declassify the document.

Catherine Herridge is an award-winning Chief Intelligence correspondent for FOX News Channel (FNC) based in Washington, D.C. She covers intelligence, the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security. Herridge joined FNC in 1996 as a London-based correspondent.

From: Annony Mouse
05-Feb-18

From: JTV
05-Feb-18
From Sara Carter ..

A new and highly redacted document released Monday by the Senate Judiciary Committee reveals that former British spy Christopher Steele, the man behind the unverified and controversial dossier, wrote an additional memo regarding alleged Russian collusion with President Donald Trump but that the information was largely based on information provided by allies of former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and Lindsey Graham, R-SC, sent a criminal referral regarding Steele’s involvement in the dossier to the Department of Justice referral January 4. The criminal referral confirms that allies of Clinton and the Obama administration were providing Steele with what they deemed damaging information on then candidate-elect Trump. The Senate Judiciary Committee spent more than a month in talks with the DOJ about what parts of the referral, which was classified Top Secret, should be redacted from the document before it became public.

“One memorandum by Mr. Steele that was not published by Buzzfeed is dated October 19, 2016. The report alleges (redacted), as well as (redacted). Mr. Steele’s memorandum states that his company “received this report from (redacted) U.S. State Department,” that the report was the second in a series, and that the report was information that came from a foreign sub-source who ‘is in touch with (redacted) US State Department,’ that the report was the second in a series, and that the report was information that came from a sub-source who ‘is in touch with (redacted), a contact of (redacted) of (redacted) a friend of the Clintons, who passed it to (redacted).”

“It is troubling enough that the Clinton Campaign funded Mr. Steele’s work, but that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility,” the criminal referral states.

In the document, Grassley and Graham noted that “there is substantial evidence suggesting that Mr. Steele materially misled the FBI about a key aspect of his dossier efforts, one which bears on his credibility.”

The pair of lawmakers also allege that Steele was compiling information on Trump and his campaign before being hired by now embattled research firm Fusion GPS, which was paid by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton Campaign for his work.

“Pursuant to that business arrangement, Mr. Steele prepared a series of documents styled as intelligence reports, some of which were later compiled into a ‘dossier’ and published by Buzzfeed in January 2017,” the referral states. “On the face of the dossier, it appears that Mr. Steele gathered much of his information from Russian government sources inside Russia.”

According to several U.S. Officials who spoke to this reporter, Cody Shearer, a former journalist and close ally of Hillary and Bill Clinton, was closely connected to Steele and shared information with the former spy. Shearer worked in the 90s for President Bill Clinton.

Steele, whose prior work with British intelligence gave him access to U.S. intelligence and State Department officials, also appeared to be in contact with Jonathan Winer, a current State Department official who also worked under then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Winer is the “State Department’s Special Envoy for Libya and Senior Advisor for MEK resettlement,” according to the State Department website.

Another connection to the second dossier, according to several sources who spoke to this reporter, is close friend and advisor to Hillary Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal. As reported several weeks ago, Blumenthal’s connection to the dossier still remains somewhat of a mystery but according to several sources he allegedly was one source that Steele used to verify certain aspects of his dossier.

Department of Justice officials declined to comment on Blumenthal or the dossier.

FBI officials also declined to comment.

Blumenthal did not return a phone call seeking comment.

Blumenthal worked as a White House aide for Bill Clinton, and later worked with the Clinton Foundation after being denied a role by Obama Administration officials with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, according to reports. Politico revealed that Blumenthal was being paid $10,000 a month by the Clinton Foundation.

In 2015, emails released by the State Department showed the extensive and ongoing working relationship between Clinton and Blumenthal. The emails also revealed that then-Secretary of State Clinton would seek Blumenthal’s advice on Libya, according to the emails. Blumenthal regularly sent Hillary Clinton “vaguely sourced” “intelligence cable style” briefings while she was Secretary of State.

The Guardian was the first to publish Shearers’ involvement with what is being described as a second anti-Trump dossier.

Grassley and Graham filed the criminal referral on Steele after comparing information given to the committee from the FBI to Steele’s own statements.

“As explained in greater detail below, when information in those classified documents is evaluated in light of sworn statements by Mr. Steele in British litigation, it appears that either Mr. Steele lied to the FBI or the British court, or that the classified documents reviewed by the Committee contain materially false statements,” the criminal referral states.

05-Feb-18
The vote to release the new memo gives President Trump five days to decide whether or not to release something that might undercut what he considered personal vindication.

IF Trump releases the memo, will iit be redacted (edited) so he can remove whatever incriminates him? If he refuses to release or redacts, it should speak volumes!

From: JTV
05-Feb-18
Atheist/Paul Z/Ryan from dipshitville, no one here cares what you think.... just how many fakes are you going to use ?? ..... go away kid, ya bother me ...

From: Annony Mouse
05-Feb-18
In March 2016 Carter Page Was an FBI Employee – In October 2016 FBI Told FISA Court He’s a Spy…

In 2013 Carter Page was working as an under-cover employee (UCE) of the FBI, helping them to build a case against “Evgeny Buryakov”. In March 2016 Carter Page remained their informant pre-trial. [Note – Pay attention to the names in the following citations]

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From: Bentstick81
05-Feb-18
ryan from boone. (atheist) It won't matter if Trump releases the LYING Dems memo, or not. You have already came up with excuses, no matter which one he does. I hope he doesn't let the memo out. mueller was suppose to be investigating russian collusion. Now it's obstruction of justice. What will it be next? Trump should be vindicated. There is nothing on the collusion, so now dip$hit mueller has moved to o- of justice. That isn't what mueller was selected for. One thing that Trump is guilty of, is proving to everyone on here, just how much of a dumba$$ you are. PRICELESS! 8^)

From: JTV
05-Feb-18
Carter Page is on the Laura Ingram show tonight ....

From: Bentstick81
05-Feb-18
hey atheist. Mark Levin is going to be on Hannity in fifteen minutes. You and the rest of the dems need to watch him tonight, and i would like to see any of you guys prove what he says, wrong. This oughta be good. 8^))

From: JTV
05-Feb-18
Mark would rip any of the dweebs on here to shame ... no one knows the constitution better ..

From: Bentstick81
05-Feb-18
He is really sharp. He is hitting on great points. I agree JTV.

From: trublucolo
05-Feb-18

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From: JTV
05-Feb-18
His show starts this month on Fox... Sundays

From: JTV
05-Feb-18
Tru... BINGO !! .... something was smelling fishy, and it wasnt the bride.. ..... it wouldnt surprise me one bit if the old man had his greasy smelly fingers in this ...

From: JTV
05-Feb-18
Politics Rep. Adam Schiff’s Shocking Ties To George Soros Revealed By Gary Maher - February 5, 201801922 The report that Democrat Adam Schiff’s sister was married to George Soros’ son was a shocker but then it all made sense. The far left and the Deep State are all intertwined in an incestuous relationship. The marriage of Schiff’s sister to Soros’ son is a perfect example:

As it turns out, George Soros was instrumental in helping fund Schiff’s political career. Schiff was bankrolled by Soros organization MoveOn.org:

Breitbart News reports:

Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, was previously financially aided by the George Soros-financed MoveOn.org to win his Congressional seat.

Schiff was also awarded the Toll Fellowship, which is sponsored by the Council of State Governments, a nonprofit that monitors federal government activities and is heavily financed by Soros’s Open Society Foundations.

The Open Society and Soros-funded groups have additionally supported a number of Schiff’s legislative efforts.

Schiff has been helping to lead the Democrats’ unsubstantiated charges of alleged collusion between President Donald Trump and Moscow.

Last month, Schiff delivered the opening statements at a Congressional hearing where he laid out the case for alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. This reporter previously documented serious problems with Schiff’s charges, which include wild conspiracy theories and heavy reliance on a questionable source.

Wonder if he’s beholden to Soros now? We believe he is! Remember that Schiff has been lying and leaking since day one of Trump presidency. He believes the end justifies the means even if it’s corrupt.

THE APPLE DOESN’T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE: Soros’ son was married to Adam Schiff’s sister!

Daily Mail reports from 2015 during messy Soros divorce:

One thing billionaire George Soros and his 51-year-old son Robert appear to share is an interest in much-younger women.

On a flight back from the Venice Biennale to New York on Sunday, Robert was seen making out with his new 29-year-old girlfriend Jamie Singer throughout most of the flight, in front of his soon-to-be ex-wife who was seated just a few rows back, according to the New York Post.

Robert’s father George Soros, the 84-year-old Hungarian-American business magnate, married a woman exactly half his age in a lavish ceremony two years ago.

Robert, who serves as the president of the family’s $28billion Soros Fund Management firm, is currently in the midst of a bitter divorce from his wife Melissa Schiff, a photographer and filmmaker.

From: Sixby
06-Feb-18
Keep investigating Shiff, You don't know half of it or how wicked his background is and what it is rooted in. Check out his grandfather and where their money comes from.

God bless, Steve

From: Annony Mouse
06-Feb-18
Speaking of two memos...

A Tale of Two Memos: Mulvaney, Nunes Missives Both Press Rule of Law

The story of the Trump administration this year has been the story of two memos. There is the Nunes Memo, from the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, describing “abuses” by the FBI and the Department of Justice in wiretapping a volunteer adviser to the Trump campaign.

And there is the Mulvaney Memo, from the acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Mick Mulvaney, which has gained less attention but which may ultimately be even more significant in restoring the rule of law.

The Mulvaney Memo, issued January 23 as an email to all CFPB employees, is worth carving into granite, or at least quoting at some length. It encapsulates a humility and restraint and respect for rule of law that is often all too lacking in government.

Mr. Mulvaney wrote, “We don’t just work for the government, we work for the people. And that means everyone: those who use credit cards, and those who provide those cards; those who take loans, and those who make them; those who buy cars, and those who sell them. All of those people are part of what makes this country great. And all of them deserve to be treated fairly by their government.”

“It is not appropriate,” he went on, for any government entity to ‘push the envelope’ when it comes into conflict with our citizens. The damage that we can do to people could linger for years and cost them their jobs, their savings, and their homes. If the CFPB loses a court case because we ‘pushed too hard,’ we simply move on to the next matter.

“But where do those that we have charged go to get their time, their money, or their good names back? If a company closes its doors under the weight of a multi-year Civil Investigative Demand, you and I will still have jobs at CFPB. But what about the workers who are laid off as a result? Where do they go the next morning?”

Then this: “On regulation, it seems that the people we regulate should have the right to know what the rules are before being charged with breaking them. ... I intend to execute the statutory mandate of the Bureau to protect consumers. But we will no longer go beyond that mandate. If Congress wants us to do more than is set forth in the Dodd-Frank Act, they can change the law. Until then, we will enforce the law as currently written.”

The idea that people “should have the right to know what the rules are before being charged with breaking them” may seem like common sense, but in contemporary times it has seemed more like a distant ideal than actual government policy or practice.

So the Laurence A. Tisch Professor of Law at NYU Law School, Richard Epstein, could write in a 2013 article in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, adapted from remarks at a 2012 Federalist Society Symposium, that, “it is perhaps only wishful thinking to believe that we can return to a pristine era in which these basic principles — known, consistent, and certain rules applied prospectively by neutral judges — apply.”

For that definition of the rule of law, Mr. Epstein cited the English philosopher John Locke’s 1689 Second Treatise on Government, which inspired the founders of America. Locke wrote, “the ruling power ought to govern by declared and received laws, and not by extemporary dictates and undetermined resolutions... that both the people may know their duty, and be safe and secure within the limits of the law; and the rulers too kept within their bounds, and not be tempted, by the power they have in their hands.”

With the notable exceptions of Matt Levine of Bloomberg News, who praised the Mulvaney Memo, and the Wall Street Journal editorial page, which reprinted a version of it, the mainstream press corps greeted it with derision. The New York Times ran a front-page news article impugning Mr. Mulvaney’s integrity by suggesting, with no evidence, that he’d been improperly swayed by donations to his previous campaigns for Congress, and by a decision by one industry group to have a convention at a Trump-branded hotel in Florida.

The Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post covered the story under the headline “How Mick Mulvaney Is Dismantling a Federal Agency,” describing Mr. Mulvaney as “malicious” and “perverted.”

It’s a good thing the Times and the Post weren’t around during the American Revolution, because if they’d have given John Locke’s Second Treatise the treatment they are giving the Mulvaney Memo, we’d all still be taking arbitrary orders from Buckingham Palace.

Instead of hurling insults at Mulvaney or questioning his motives, the Washington press corps might consider other ways of advancing this newsworthy story. It could start by asking whether Mr. Mulvaney — who also serves as director of the White House Office of Management and Budget — intends for this approach to apply government-wide, or just to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. It might ask President Trump the same question.

Already, there are at least some hopeful signs that the answer is yes, and that we’ll see fewer shakedowns and vendettas. In December the Federal Reserve even released a proposal to “increase the transparency of its stress testing program” for banks.

In the end the Nunes Memo and the Mulvaney Memo both get at a similar theme — that government officials, whether FBI agents or consumer financial protection bureaucrats, need to follow the law, and that the law should be known in advance and applied impartially. More than 300 years after Locke’s Second Treatise, you’d think this would not be such an intensely controversial point. Perhaps Professor Epstein was right when he called it wishful thinking. Good for Mr. Mulvaney, though, for giving it a try.

From: Annony Mouse
06-Feb-18

Annony Mouse's Link
Of Course: Adam Schiff and the Democrats Lard Up Their Rebuttal Memo with "Sources and Methods" Information, In Order to Force Trump to Redact It Or Deny Its Release, So They Can Claim "See?! He's Afraid of All Our Evidence"

Notice, however, the dogs that aren't barking: While the intel agencies and FBI screamed about "sources and methods" information in the Nunes memo that was never there, they're being quiet about Adam Schiff stocking this #FakeNews memo full of stuff he knows has to be redacted.

All of a sudden they're quiet about "sources and methods," because they're in on the con.

(Links at link)

From: HA/KS
06-Feb-18
Mouse, I stated multiple times that the litmus test on FBI/DOJ would be whether they treated both memos the same.

From: JTV
06-Feb-18
it is now being said that 'ol Sydney Blumenthal a long time friend of the Clintons, leaked info that was turned into the Steele Dossier

EXCLUSIVE – Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., strongly implied to Fox News Tuesday night that Clinton family confidant Sidney Blumenthal was a key link in a chain of information that helped create the controversial Trump-Russia dossier.

Gowdy told Fox News' "The Story" that "when you hear who ... one of the sources of that information is, you're going to think, 'Oh my gosh, I've heard that name somewhere before.'"

When host Martha MacCallum asked if he was referring to Blumenthal, Gowdy answered, "That'd be really warm. You're warm, yeah."

Gowdy, who is among a host of Republican lawmakers not running for re-election is November, played a key role in the drafting of a recently declassified memo detailing alleged surveillance abuses by the federal government. The memo took specific issue with the FBI's use of information from the dossier, which was compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele and claimed to reveal deep ties between President Trump and Russian officials.

From: JTV
07-Feb-18
Hot on the heels of the House memo exposing deep state corruption comes an equally explosive document from the Senate that shows the story behind the phony dossier is even worse than you thought.

Senators Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham have released a heavily redacted, yet very revealing copy of their criminal referral against ex-British spy Christopher Steele, the author of the dubious dossier we now know was parlayed into a FISA warrant by Trump-hating operatives at the Justice Department.

Grassley and Graham tell us that, while working on a second dossier for Clinton opposition research firm Fusion GPS, Steele was being fed information directly from the Obama State Department and from Clinton allies as well as his usual, sketchy Russian sources. That’s right, teams Clinton and Obama were working with a foreign spy to undermine then-candidate Donald Trump.

" … Mr. Steele's memorandum states that his company received this report from (redacted), U.S. State Department, and that the report was the second in the series, and that the report was information that came from a foreign sub source who is in touch with a contact of (redacted), a friend of the Clintons who passed it to (redacted).”

The Grassley-Graham memo goes on to say “it's troubling enough that the Clinton campaign funded Mr. Steele's work, but [worse] that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele's allegations. It raises huge additional concerns about his credibility."

So, in addition to Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paying $12 million for a phony, fake-news Russian propaganda dossier to influence the election, we now learn that her associates and the Obama State Department teamed up with Russian sources to funnel allegations to Steele for a second dossier.

The senators are also accusing Christopher Steele of lying either to the FBI or to the British courts.

"There is substantial evidence suggesting that Mr. Steele materially misled the FBI about a key aspect of his dossier efforts, one which bears on his credibility," they wrote.

This Grassley-Graham memo also details how Steele was using his first phony dossier to brief several mainstream media outlets, you know, the folks who bring you fake news, in the summer and the fall of 2016. British court records show Steele acknowledged he peddled his memo to The New York Times, Washington Post, Yahoo News, The New Yorker, and, of course, CNN.

However, since he was working for the FBI, he would have been barred from leaking to the media. In fact, the FBI later cut ties with him when it learned he had broken the rule. So who did he lie to, the FBI or the British courts?

It’s hard to keep all the memos and dossiers straight. If you’re scoring at home, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released a memo over the objections of Democrats and the media that showed how the FBI used Steele’s first dossier to get a federal warrant to spy on people close to Trump. The Democrats hope to release their own “memo,” which is not a memo at all but just a sour-grapes rebuttal to the committee’s. The Grassley-Graham memo is a third document that tells us Obama and Clinton operatives fed Steele information to try to damage Trump.

The dossiers, and there are apparently two of them, were cooked up by Steele and are completely unverified claptrap. Yet, the FBI marched one of them into a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and presented it as evidence. Months later, then FBI Director James Comey admitted it was completely unverified.

And here's what the left and your corrupt media won't tell you: the FISA judge was never told that Hillary Clinton was paying for the phony dossier containing Russian intelligence lies about Donald Trump. And they don’t seem to care that it was first used to try to influence an election, then to get a warrant to spy on an opposition candidate.

The incestuous ties between Fusion, Steele, the Clinton campaign and the Obama Justice Department are alarming. Clinton hired Fusion, which hired Steele. Steele was working with the FBI at the same time. The wife of a top Justice Department official, Bruce Ohr, was hired by Fusion to work with Steele.

The goal of the whole, unseemly syndicate? To launder Russian lies about Donald Trump through the U.S. government, so they could weaponize our own intelligence and law enforcement network against the man who now sits in the Oval Office.

You should be scared. And disgusted.

From: Bentstick81
07-Feb-18
Have you noticed that none of the dems on here wanted to try and prove Levin wrong. Pretty much proves that the $hit the dems bring on here is bull$hit, and lies.

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