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Mueller investigation all done
* is exonerated. Sorry about the wording
Buckiller where did you get that info? I hope you are correct!
Nothing will happen before Trump sits with Mueller either voluntarily or by subpoena.
"Nothing will happen......."
Well Paul, you FINALLY spoke the truth about about something....holy crap!
I realize it may hurt your brain, and you might need to stretch first, but try reading the rest of the sentence. Do your best to recall your elementary school days. I know you can do it!
Guys, I can’t tell you how I know and I’m sorry about that. But I do know for certain. Mark my words on this. It’s done. I don’t say this with arrogance or pride. Everything we “see” in the news and even in Trump’s twitter posts is not as it seems. Many things in the corrupt world are coming unraveled. Just look at the Londo Telegraph front page today. That will tell you alot. We will look back on this post and see that my intel was spot on. I guarantee it.
atheist. You want to take my bet with you, this time? You seem to always turn away from my offer. Come on, Mr No Balls. Are you really sure, this time???? What a PHONY MORON. 8^))
Nothing in the Telegraph that indicates the investigation is over.
I was not referring to Trump about Telegraph. I'm referring to corruption in general. What at one time was "buried" truth has finally become "front page" in the MSM.
If Trump was framed per the "insurance policy" per Strzok and Page, his get out of jail free card is to call off the dogs on Hillary and most likely, Obama.
Recent texts between Strzok and Page have them discussing talking points for Comey to present to POTUS. Hmmm - the camel's nose is in the tent now. "Lets call off the whole thing before this get too ugly."
If you are right Buck, the timing is just too coincidental. Drain the swamp. Let Trump fall on his sword inorder to nail Obama, Hillary and their minions to the wall. Everybody falls.
The whole country will see that Trump was framed, and sacrificed himself to purge our gov't of swamp creatures and bring the highest levels of corruption to light.
Pence can then pardon Trump.
The Mueller investigation is a necessary evil. The MSM has been nailing Trump to the wall since 11/16 with the “Russia, Russia, Russia” claims. 1/2 the country became suspicous of Trump and there was nothing he could do to lose the reputation with them EXCEPT to let a left leaning, former FBI Director run an independent investigation on him and let it play out. Then, once Mueller comes out and says, “here is our findings: President Trump DID NOT collide with Russia and thus the investigation is over”. The left heats this and then the right hears this AND for the most part it is settled in this country (25 % of dems will still hate Trump and want him in jail just because they hate him). But for the other 87.5 % of the country the matter will be settled. The nation can move forward. There are a lot of arrests and resignations coming in the next year (of both Dems and Rino’s). The public will be acclimated a little at a time as to not set off “riots in the streets”. A lot of people are under surveillance. The tables have turned. LAWFUL FISA warrants have been issued and most of us will be in shock when we see the dominoes fall. It will be ugly. But lawful.
I hope this prediction works out better for you than your "Super Bowl false flag" did.
To be fair, Matt, he didn't say which Super Bowl.
Nice of you to acknowledge that you ARE Paul Zieden, not that we didn't already know that. Who do you pretend you are to your students, Einstein? No wait....IRWIN COREY!
GG and BEG
Go back and read my post. You are making false accusations. I asked people to pray because there was higher than normal chatter according to the FBI. They went to mega-extremes at this super bowl to safe. A warning is not a prediction. You make accusations against me that are unfounded. Would you have been happy if there was a FF at the Super Bowl? Your post is unfounded. You know the truth. No where did I predict an attack. You are not looking for honest communication. Just making fun of people. You are twisting what I said. That makes you deceptive people.
"...an attempt to create a false flag in this country is a strong possibility"...sounds an awful lot like a prediction to me.
No, I don't know the truth. I do, however, know it's pretty easy to make claims that can never be proven and also know that when I'm wrong it's also easy to say it's because other things happened that can never be verified.
So Mueller and his minions decided they don't need to interview or subpoena Trump?
Who said there wasn't going to be an interview/subpoena? It was said that he will be EXONERATED, most likely sooner than later. I have no doubt that Mueller will interview him just to cross all the T's and dot the I's so no one can accuse him of not doing a full investigation (which, BTW, was NEVER done with Hellary. SHE was exonerated PRIOR to being questioned in an UN-sworn testimony.)
Stop putting words in other's mouths.
Are you serious, WW? The title of the thread is literally "Mueller investigation all done." Hahaha some of y'all are too much.
Yes I am. This investigation has been "DONE" since it started. All he's going to do is the final faux-show and then it'll be buried before they get to the REAL crap, which was done by Democrats. That should be so obvious that even you with your self stated superior intellect should be aware of it. "Hahaha some of y'all are too much."
Yes, you are!
Trumps attorneys are on record saying they do not want Trump to be interviewed by Mueller. Why? Because he lies. All. The. Time.
Trump’s longtime friends and advisers have grown increasingly concerned that a face-to-face interview with Mueller could derail his presidency.
Trump’s own lawyers once testified in a 4/7/93 deposition that they had to meet with him in pairs because he lies so much
So Trumps attorneys are saying he will lie so they don’t want him to lie but yet they are already saying he’s going to lie
That was not a prediction, it was a call to intercession because the threat was high.
I suppose you would have been thrilled to hear that 100 people got killed there? Would that make you return to my thread in “awe of me”?
One of the problems is that we do not get all of the info. Almost everyone only knows what they hear on the news.
Who said that Trump hasn’t been interviewed already? Or there aren’t multiple interviews?
I have a source that told me it is done. The source is totally credible. Mueller will be releasing findings soon. Trump is in no trouble. I totally trust my source.
By the way, what I have told you here not even Fox News knows yet.
I don't believe we've met, and I noticed you didn't include your last name in your registration. I'm Matt Teter from Colorado. And you are?
I just looked it up. I have no idea why it is like that. I've been a member here for probably 10 years.
My last name is Keator. I live in Connecticut. I pastor a church there. Have been a pastor for 20 years. Before that I served in the USCG and my last duty station was the USCG academy. After that, my wife and I stayed in Connecticut.
How about you? What's your story?
Nice to meet you Robert.
I'm a semi-retired architect and development consultant. My wife and I have owned and operated a small succesful business for 20 years that we're winding down to enjoy life without work. I mostly hunt, fish, ski, and and keep up with chores on our relatively small ranch. Tarpon fishing has become one of my new favorite passions in life, holding 2nd place only to big game bowhunting.
I don't mean to be skeptical, but can you provide anything more about your "source" of information?
Matt, I ENCOURAGE you to be skeptical. Don't believe me at all. If I wasn't me, I wouldn't believe me either. But when it comes to pass, you will know that you can trust my intel.
Sorry, but I can't tell you where I get my info from.
I have a feeling that it is winding down and Mueller can see all the information that is coming out. If he is doing his job he had certainly uncovered all the bad stuff the FBI has done. He was probably part of it and the doo doo will hit the fan. If he tries to frame Trump I think he will be done.
This is exactly why the Mueller investigation is bogus...there would have to have been an intel leak by now, if Trump was guilty of Russian Collusion.
GG, when I looked up your profile your middle name was "skeptical of everyone not adhering to his group think"!
When did you change it!?!?
Yes, Spike, forgive me for being skeptical of an anonymous poster claiming to have a anonymous source. If Mr. Keator's information proves to be accurate, I will gladly retract my skepticism.
My first thought was another illegal registration and since its on the right it will be hush, hush...
Beings he is a pastor the info maybe coming from the highest authority.
atheist. Why should Trump talk to mueller? He has nothing on Trump, so why would he want to talk to Trump? By all means, PHONY A$$, Give us all the PROOF you have on Trump and Russian Collusion. Also, give us the reason Trump should talk to mueller. You are going to see collusion, in the very near future, and I bet that you are not going to like, who gets riddled. And you are a LIAR and a FRAUD. 8^))
If the fbi was investigating me for potential crimes that I DID NOT commit, I’d be racing in there to clear my name and have them exonerate me. Why? Because I didn’t do a thing. Get it? Trump won’t talk to them because he lies. He’s lied to his own lawyers and they know he can’t tell the truth. One slip up and boom perjury.
atheist. You wouldn't be racing in there to clear your NAME. You would just change your name again, or have to race in there thirty some times. Once again, dumba$$. Show us PROOF of Russian Collusion with Trump. There is no PROOF out there. GET IT? 8^)))
Hell, Paul has had so many false identities, he probably doesn't remember his own name.
When he comes home, all tired from indoctrinating the poor students at BriarCliff Manor HS, he wife asks him, " Well, who are you today?"
Paul would be best served to admit is abuses of the CF registrations rules, if he wants anyone here to even consider is political opinions. That applies to all other anonymous posters here, IMO.
Otherwise the bro-mances will continue.
Y'all really would be best served to just ignore him. Thought we had a good conversation today in the "food prices" thread and he contributed nothing. He's obviously here just to push his liberal agenda, which is great because he provides me with a good laugh everyday.
Glad to see atheist's fan club is back. GG, believe me, you bitch and moan, or argue with just about anyone on here, about anything, and then you come on here to whine about people identifying a PHONY. Call it, what you want. I've noticed that a lot more people are joining in on ripping atheist, so the bromance is working well. You two dems are exactly alike. I could give a $hit less, what you or any other democrat thinks. It will continue. 8^)
You might claim to not "give a $hit less" what I post, but your responses prove otherwise, as they do with Paul.
I've known GG for a very long time and will guarantee you, while I frequently disagree with him, he's in no way a liberal.
Just because someone here disagrees with us at times does not make him a liberal, let alone an 'atheist' supporter.
Ok atheist Jr. Whatever makes your heart pitter patter. atheist knows you will chime in to help him out. It will continue, A-Jr. 8^)))
Nva. You believe, what you want. It's your right. I don't care how long you have known him.
Did I somehow stumble onto the bitter old woman, bunching panties thread?
And you only care he might disagree with you at times.
Therefore he must be a Commie, a Deep Stater or worse!
I'll back up Nva on that. I agree with him about GG. Furthermore, I believe Matt's an honest & kind man to converse with, and very good for our forum. Among other things, he inspires all of us to study & learn more about our own values & beliefs on whatever side of the aisle we are on. And that's a valuable thing from my perspective.
""Did I somehow stumble onto the bitter old woman, bunching panties thread?""
I apologize gents, that's funny stuff there.
Geez, that's a pic in my mind I may never be able to drink enough to wash away.......
Nva. Like i said before, You believe what you want. I don't care. I don't make JR read my posts. I know it upsets little JR's stomach, when he reads my posts. So don't read them. No need for GG to get an upset stomach. But hey, if he's that stupid, that's his problem. I have explained that to him, many times, but he still comes at me. It is, what it is.
"I have info about Mueller investigation. It will be announced that Trump will is exonerated."
Well, there is a 50% chance you are right. Much better odds than 78% of the threads started on bowsite.
"Well, there is a 50% chance you are right"
Not without inside information.
The most likely scenario (without inside information) is that the investigation goes on at least past mid-terms and never states a conclusion except explicitly or implicitly "we know he was doing it, but were unable to prove it."
That outcome was predetermined as the minimum they would get out of this even before it started - regardless of anything trump actually had or had not done.
I hope his inside information is correct.
" Among other things, he inspires all of us to study & learn more about our own values & beliefs on whatever side of the aisle we are on". Is there anything said that can make your face red? Yes, and Attila was taking sensitivity training courses before his rampage. Abandon the pulpit if that is your source consider for inspiration. This place is sinking quicker by the minute. My God.
Buckiller, If what you claim is true it may be better left unsaid. You are placing your source if there is one as you claim, in a compromising position which could easily be rooted out one way or another.
Rock, don’t worry. It is ok’d for release. There’s no going back now. I would never release the info if my source said not to. It’s all good.
Remember guys: what you see on TV and in most news agencies is smoke and mirrors. They are fed crap intel on purpose. Trump is helping the MSM destroy itself in the public’s eye. In the end, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC (and Fox to some degree) will come out of this COMPLETELY covered in egg.
Thanks for your support, The Rock. It's comforting to know that yours is the pulpit of enlightenment.
Waiting for bowsite to be CNNs new source
Matt, Take it easy and don't be so sensitive. GEEZ.
We have Paul the atheist calling Trump a liar? Trump is St. Francis of Assisi compared to OBOZO the America hating race pimp or the Hildabeast. The FBI has well trained people that know how to turn a question around dozens of times. "Oh you never said that? Well in 2006 we have record of you saying that" kind of BS.
If I were Trump I would call Mueller out on his invitation when it came. President Trump should meet and speak with Mueller, ONLY Mueller. Trump and his team of lawyers, not under oath, speak with Mueller himself and only himself for a brief period of time. Sure, if you think you really have something go ahead and subpoena me. They have nothing. Now with thieves and liars like OBOZO and Hilda they have plenty. They won't be able to hide all of it. OBOZO and Hilda and their cabal are too well connected, you won't be able to touch them. But mark my words, leftist heads are going to roll and it's going to look real bad for the Democraps. Hopefully at the very least the FBI and DOJ gets gutted.
I think the real question is how much swamp needs to be drained to get to solid ground. It's clear to me that the stink and taint go deeper than most of us knew, maybe deeper than anyone knew.
I keep hoping that Trey Gowdy is right, that Mueller is one of the honorable ones, and that he realizes that he has found himself in a unique position in history, to save the Republic.
But then I'm an optimist!
Here we got one of the head Dems Senators "colluding" and texting to the Russians ..... Mark Warren and wanting to keep it "confidential" .... you can make this stuff up .. ^^^ link
Matt, I ENCOURAGE you to be skeptical. Don't believe me at all. If I wasn't me, I wouldn't believe me either. But when it comes to pass, you will know that you can trust my intel.
Sorry, but I can't tell you where I get my info from.
Just so we’re clear, the “it” that you speak of is that no further charges will be levied on Trump nor anyone in his administration. And whenever this comes to pass, be it tomorrow or eight months from now, we can trust the fact that this determination was made by Mueller and his team prior to the date this thread started (February 8th)? That’s what you’re saying Buckiller?
Also, where’d your initial post go?
Looks like the OP was......redacted.
"In the end, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC (and Fox to some degree) will come out of this COMPLETELY covered in egg."
May it be!
"Looks like the OP was......redacted."
Apparently Buckiller recused himself and is booking his beach vacation with Spike.
I was hoping you would be there. It could be like "A Weekend at GG's" movie!
If you find me anywhere near a beach, I'll be on my boat tarpon fishing.
I do appreciate your thick skin, however. I bet it looks good with a tan.
Maybe Buckiller revealed too much and “they” got to him??
Rocky, I don't need a pulpit to witness all of the attention given by a number of posters here who are inspired to respond to virtually every one of GG's postings. At times their replies have also included additional detailed information they were inspired to research in an effort to back up their stances. I view all of that as a good thing for this forum.
Another positive aspect is that I don't see GG exploding on anyone, nor do I see him getting involved in the name-calling or threats toward others. Clearly, I don't agree with his political stances very often, (if ever ;^) but I don't have to agree in order to respect the man and appreciate his demeanor.
Thanks for the kind words, but I'm not really trying to win a popularity contest here.
As for agreeing with my political stances, I don't think anyone here could accurately say what my stance is on the majority of the major issues. I think if you knew my stances, you'd realize we agree on far more than we don't.
My goal here is to implant at least a small bit of impartiality to the discussions. Honestly, I lean to the right on most issues, but apparently anything short of the extreme right earns you the dreaded "liberal" title. I can handle that, I've been called worse things.
Worse than being called a liberal? Wow. Did they call you .... a.... a Progressive? Those Scoundrels.
PS. If more people (law makers) bucked the party line and actually showed their varied opinions, our country would be better off and our reliance on political correctness could be removed.
No. Makes no sense.
Solo:Make sense? Reminds me of the weird commercial,. I see, cancels out. So Matt is just attempting to enlighten us poor morons?? Well , now I like him so much more.
God bless, Steve
ooops, hang on GG. I gotta backtrack and hurl some rotten insults atcha so my readers have a better chance at comprehending what I wrote last week.... :^p
Annony Mouse's Link
Glad to see I'm more important than the topic of the thread. Oh wait, I forgot, Buckiller deleted the topic, so I guess you guys can keep talking about me. I'm so flattered.
Solo, please do edit your posts to include some insults. I'm felling a little cheated. ;-)
Brennan and Clapper are pure scum ...Federal jail would be too good for 'em .... Gitmo would be good place if it were possible ..
OR, he is being set up to take the hit for the entire obama/clinton crime cartel.
Comey was trying to blame Bill Priestap.
Priestap flipped first.
Back to his room at the asylum - doubled his meds.
Or the Clinton’s found him.
Spike Bull 's Link
Or the Rothschild (not the billionaire... the candy)
Flynn may be off the hook!
"According to a court filing, U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras, who presided over a Dec. 1 hearing where Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation about his contacts with Russia, will no longer handle the case.
".. has been recused from handling the case,.."
"Court spokeswoman Lisa Klem did not say why Contreras was recused, and added that the case was randomly reassigned."
Fortunately, perhaps, replaced by a judge who is considered to be an expert on Government corruption.
"Former Trump campaign adviser Rick Gates is finalizing a plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller's office, indicating he's poised to cooperate in the investigation, according to sources familiar with the case."
Lmao!! Trumps lawyers will have field day with anything mueller comes up with. Mueller is linked to so much corruption on the left, this investigation has zero credibility and has cost taxpayers millions of wasted dollars.
Who was Bannon talking to this week? I thought that the investigation was done? Maybe Mueller and Bannon went to a movie together (All the Presidents Men?)
Buggy - good one. Supposedly, trump set up a lawyer fund to help out the folks who are in legal trouble because of him. So far, 2 pled guilty, 1 is pleading guilty and the other is in an island (looking four a plea agreement?). I guess his lawyers need to practice somewhere...
This should concern you. More than 130 political appointees working in white house didn't have permanent security clearances as of November 2017, including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner and Don McGahn,etc.
You know who has permanent security clearances?
Every single member of special counsel Mueller's team.
Atheist I see your drinking the Kool-Aid again! Yeah and some of them with those clearances funneled guns to Mexico.
"This should concern you." WHY? What about Obama and especially Bill Clinton during the same time frame. How desperate can you be with this fake news? Squirrel....
If nothing else, you guys are consistent.
Yes the process is Consistently slow for all Federal Employees.....Your getting it, Awesome...I don't think you are a Screwup, just misinformed and I am glad to help.
Indictment out today on a bunch of Russian Nationals for election meddling.
"Russian Nationals are accused of spreading derogatory information about HRC, Cruz, and Rubio"....
SPREADING FAKE NEWS? REALLY? That is all that came of this??+
Spike Bull 's Link
Doesnt Clinton still have one?
Somebody thinks it is important...
FBI stated no Americans colluded with russia today. Trump was right this was one of the biggest hoaxes in American history. he needs to take a victory lap and smack the libs in the face with it.
So, it looks like Buckiller was correct. It would've been much easier for the people on here, that blasted him, to just wait and see if Buckiller was correct, before ripping him. Instead, we jump to conclusions.
The Mueller special council is disbanded? They are not even going to interview Trump? Rick Gates isn't really working on a plea deal? Mueller is just going to let Bannon go now?
No? Because after all Buckillers crazy talk about the Rothschilds, I am going to need to see this thing wrapped up with a bow before I believe him on this one. No offense...
This was certainly a laugh of a thread. Glad the OP had such great intel.
Spreading fake news ?? ... hell, isnt this something CNN/MSNBC/Yahoo/Google and the rest do daily .... smh
Bowsnipe, I’d request one thing of you (which I’m sure you would expect in return). Please don’t attribute things I never said as if I said them. What you are doing is exactly what CNN and MSNBC does. What you are doing is libel and slander. You don’t have the intel that I have therefore I do not blame you for your ignorance in this area. But I assure you, just because you don’t know something or understand something doesn’t mean other people are as ignorant as you are. There are things that you know that I don’t know but that doesn’t make me any less valuable than you. I have lots of great information that you probably have no way of knowing. I don’t fault you fir that. Choose what you want to believe. If I had kept posting what I know last week, many of you guys that are trying to humiliate me would be PMing asking for forgiveness. Have a blessed night. Rob
BK, if what you say is true, and I want to believe you, keep us up to date of you will ...
Not till Mueller, Comey, Rice, Lynch, Strozk, Page, Clinton, Obama, etc. are indicted and found guilty ..
Bowsniper, Buckiller never said that the Rothschilds were causing the stock market moves. He said thirteen human traffickers named in an Executive Order on 12/21 were causing the significant dips in the market a few days ago.
“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the special counsel probe, said at a Friday press conference.
Wait until everyone sees what comes out of the Mueller investigation. Dems are convinced that Mueller is only investigating Trump-Russia collusion. What he is REALLY investigating (you can read about it on the Justice Department website) ALL collusion. Be patient everyone. When Mueller comes out with his announcement about what they discovered, you will see that the REAL investigation/ prosecution is just getting started. Dems are so blue-pilled they won’t even know how to respond when “their guy” Mueller exposes all their cronies.
I LOVE your posts, Buckiller!
Wait minute, Buckiller, your original post, that you oddly deleted, said the investigation was over. Now your saying the investigation is "just getting started". It seems like your "intel" is a moving target.
By the way, the Mueller investigation was never only about Russian-Trump collusion. In fact, that's not even mentioned in the Special Council appointment letter. Mueller was tasked to investigate RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS. The fact that he's indicted 17 people, and shows no signs of being done yet, indicates the investigation was needed and justified.
"Be patient everyone." Sorry to say, Buckiller. We know that won't happen. LOL 8^)))
Matt, I thought this whole thing was a witch hunt and a hoax??
Buckiller - I don't see the first posts by you so I have to go by the title of the thread.
Do you believe that this is the last indictment by Mueller?
"Do you believe that this is the last indictment by Mueller?"
He can't tell you. Well, he can allude to the fact that he has double super secret, Illuminati eyes only, information that may or may not be correct. If it pans out and is correct he can bask in the glory of "I told you so", if it's incorrect it'll be labeled as part of the Rothchild owners of all the universe wealth conspiracy. Yeah, I think that covers it.
It's pretty easy to bask in the glory of "I told you so" when your super secret "intel" constantly changes to cover all possible outcomes. It's also meaningless to claim:
" If I had kept posting what I know last week, many of you guys that are trying to humiliate me would be PMing asking for forgiveness."
That says absolutely nothing about the veracity of his "intel". Anyone can make that claim, whether he actually has intel, or not.
Here's what I don't get. In their conspiracy riddled world, the mere mention of the words "I have damning evidence" would get one two shots to the back of the head. Why would you put yourself in danger by claiming to have such info. Robert Ludlum could not have written a better conspiracy novel.
Buckiller’s original post made no mention of these indictments. His super secret intel is that the investigation has been over and Trump will be exonerated. Seeing as I would put it at about a 10% chance that anything would actually result in an indictment of Trump, this isn’t exactly an earth shattering prediction, double secret inside intel or not.
Remember, Buckiller also predicted a Super Bowl false flag and claimed that the rides of the stock market a few weeks ago were the result of human traffickers named in a 12/21 executive order simultaneously selling off assets.
He did not predict a false flag. He said he would be watching for one, as it might be a good opportunity for such a thing. It wasn't, I am happy to say and I believe he is happy about that as well.
What I don't get is a so-called pastor, who claims to have "secret intel", and claims to have a altruistic desire to educate people about it, chooses a obscure bowhunting forum as his platform to spread his intel. That's like seeing a burning building and running to a closet to scream "FIRE!!"
Hmmm, they must have reached out to a source that wasn’t Buckiller’s source...
“Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his prosecutors haven’t concluded their investigation into whether President Donald Trump or any of his associates helped Russia interfere in the 2016 election, according to a person with knowledge of the probe.
Friday’s indictment of a St. Petersburg-based “troll farm” and 13 Russian nationals should be seen as a limited slice of a comprehensive investigation, the person said. Mueller’s work is expected to continue for months and also includes examining potential obstruction of justice by Trump, said the person, who requested anonymity to discuss an investigation that is largely confidential.”
From Bloomberg. Link was too long to post.
“With all the rats scurrying in DC, an attempt to create a false flag in this country is a strong possibility.” That’s what he said.
So if I say things like “there’s a strong possibility Trump will be indicted” or there’s a “strong possibility Trump will lose his re-election” or “there’s a strong possibility Trump is really an operative of the Russian government” and none of it comes to pass I can say those weren’t predictions, but “warnings” and I don’t need to be held accountable to what I said? Got it!
I’m skimming through guys because I don’t have time to respond to everyone’s posts, accusations etc... Trump is clean as a whistle. Many more indictments coming. Please remember that as far as MSM goes, we are getting information released for public consumption. There is a YUGE investigation that is ongoing into collusion. There’s a lot more indictments coming. I can tell you this: the are more than 13 indictments so far. Many are sealed because when the arrests come they will gather several people simultaneously. There are many we won’t even know about because charges of treason/ sedition go to military tribunals. As in other past tribunals, we will not know what has happened until after verdicts are handed down. This is for national security reasons. Many of you ex-military guys who had have experience in this area can verify what I’m saying is true. Be patient. This is a marathon not a sprint. This will unfold over years not months. It took 60 years to get like this (just liste to Kennedy’s speech in 1962). The deep state was on the move on his era. To my critics: keep hammering away at me. Don’t stop now.
“There is a YUGE investigation that is ongoing into collusion.“
That sure sounds a lot different than the title of this thread.
"That sure sounds a lot different than the title of this thread."
It's also directly contrary to his original post on this thread, which he cowardly chose to delete.
Buckiller, have you booked your beach getaway with Spike, yet?
I’m checking in with bowsite moderators about my initial post. It stated that Trump is exonerated. I will get back with you guys. That was the whole purpose of my post before we headed in a new direction as most threads do.
Rosenstein chose his words carefully. He said "this INDICTMENT does not indicate that any Americans had knowledge" of what the Russians were doing.
He DID NOT say no "Americans had knowledge of what the Russians were doing."
Then there’s this…
The Kerry State Department approved the visas for the Russian operatives to travel the US in 2014 through 2016 and attempt to interfere with the US election process.
SOOOO, it was Obama and Kerry that was conspiring with the Russians .... ;0) ... and Clinton paid for the fake Dossier .... those darn Dems ...
atheist. You have anything to say about that??? You are a LIAR and a FRAUD.
My gist of the OP was that Trump's ordeal WRT "collusion" with Russia..... which is what a good many here have been hanging on for dear life about..... any straw to grasp at, any sliver.... hope upon hope.... will be pretty much over and done soon.
Not that the "investigation" was over. These latest indictments (I consider this fairly "soon") would certainly point in that direction. Unless your grasp on those last couple straws are locked in.
I'd say so far he has been pretty close to correct, if not spot on. But please, continue on parsing words..... He seems the type that if he's wrong will fess up to it, stand by it. Not too confident in others to do the same if he is right..... without parsing words that is.....
That wasn’t what I remember, TD. The gist of it was the investigation is over and Trump and his administration will be completely exonerated. The title of the damn thread is “Mueller investigation all done.” Not sure how to parse those words any other way.
"Guys, I can’t tell you how I know and I’m sorry about that. But I do know for certain. Mark my words on this. It’s done.
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"the REAL investigation/ prosecution is just getting started"
It's pretty hard to parse those quotes from Buckiller. It's also hard not to see the obvious contradiction.
Now being reported: Rick Gates will plead guilty to fraud-related charges within days and has made clear to prosecutors that he would testify against Paul Manafort. that means that out of the 4 people associated with the Trump campaign, 3 are pleading guilty(Flynn, Papadopoulos and now Gates).
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If these statements WRT the Russians and "no American involvement or knowledge" are correct then yeah, this mess of an "investigation" is pretty much over as far as Trump is concerned. You can hold your own breaths about finding some "obstruction" or anything else till turning blue, but essentially the OP appears to be correct. Parse away....
"the REAL investigation/ prosecution is just getting started" Pretty sure you folks know what that referenced..... and it had nothing to do with Trump and him being cleared...... which is what the OP was referencing. We shall see. But so far it looks like the Trump investigation is toast. Sorry if you were all longing and hoping for something else.....
PaulZ..... good chance charges against Flynn might be dropped. Everything WRT Manafort was prior to any Trump connections. Could be worth throwing yourself off a bridge or something..... tall enough....
The Mueller "investigation"--simply politics, anyone?
Let's have Mueller drag on his continuing food cart of "nuthin' burgers" till after the 2018 elections so it can be used for campaigning.
An investigation into "Russian Interference" in our election results in indictments of 4 Americans, 13 Russian nationals, and 3 Russian companies. Charges include conspiracy to commit wire fraud, bank fraud, and aggravated identify theft. The indictment exposes an elaborate, sophisticated, and well-funded Russian effort to disrupt our election process, and to cast doubt on the legitimacy or our democracy in general. And the investigation is far from over.
And yet, all Trump, and some folks here, seem to care about is that he hasn't been implicated, yet. Unbelievable.
"And yet, all Trump, and some folks here, seem to care about is that he hasn't been implicated, yet. Unbelievable."
Quite possibly because the non-stop narrative from the left has been that Trump would be indicted. You all need to get a life until then.
not implicated because THERE IS NO THERE THERE ... damn GG your becoming as ignorant as 'Theist is .... NONE of those charges have anything to do with Trump and his campaign ..... let me remind you about the 13 Russkies .... “There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the special counsel probe, said at a Friday press conference.
Quite possibly because the non-stop narrative from the left has been that Trump would be indicted.
That's why I give "narratives" from either side very little attention. They rarely reflect the truth.
JTV, thanks for reinforcing my point. The investigation was never just about Trump and his campaign. It was about RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 ELECTION. To that extent, Mueller's investigation is proving to be necessary and justified. Yet, all you are concerned about is Trump.
Unlike you, I'm not cheerleading for a specific outcome to this investigation. I just want justice served. Actually, I'd prefer if Trump and all Americans are exonerated from conspiring with the Russians, so my hesitant faith in our system can remain. Whether that proves to be the case is yet to be determined,
It's quite possible people are responding to the narrative and those spewing it GG, you pretty much stay above the fray. When every talking head in the media, and every idiot on the talk show circuits is pushing a narrative - and jackasses feel the need to come here and share them......there's going to be push back.
Thinking everybody is responding to your sentiment alone just fans the flame. If it was only one person here that says Trump is guilty and indictments against here were coming, no one would give a shit and few would respond. Only then would your comment have had much validity, yes, you are just as guilty as those pushing the narrative if you reflect on it.
Can someone tell me why the charges against the Russians did not include foreign campaign donations.
"Unlike you, I'm not cheerleading for a specific outcome to this investigation. I just want justice served. Actually, I'd prefer if Trump and all Americans are exonerated from conspiring with the Russians, so my hesitant faith in our system can remain. Whether that proves to be the case is yet to be determined,"
Kinda curious.... How does the above translate into,
"yes, you are just as guilty as those pushing the narrative if you reflect on it."
Since when does wanting justice done regardless of who the bad actors are translate into pushing a narrative?
Bowbender, since when does my comment responding to something specific I said, his response to that - then his conversation with JTV ...... since when does that translate into me being responsible for you not understanding what my response was addressing.... what are you, another bowsite mind reader?
Just for you, GG blanket carpeted a segment of the posters here, then claimed to be above the fray..... so if he's not pushing a narrative, namely his ........
Never said you were responsible for my not understanding. I’ve been following the entire thread.
GG can defend himself. Still don’t see where he is pushing an agenda, by wanting to justice done, pushing an agenda, or “putting one self above the fray”.
As far as being a mind reader, physician health thyself.
For all of Mueller's efforts, still not one bit of evidence of collusion on Trump's part. He seems to be carefully ignoring any of the revealed links to Hillary and Obama's appointees.
Again, it's not an investigation into Trump or Hillary or Obama. It's an investigation into RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE. And Mueller appears to be finding plenty of evidence of that. I'm getting tired of repeating myself.
Also, your assumption he's ignoring something is just that...an assumption. None of us know what's in his file, nor what dots he's still connecting. All we know is what he's carefully spoon-fed us thru his indictments.
You can lap up, and post, every opinion piece that supports your narrative, if you want. I'll sit back and wait for the REAL conclusions of the investigation.
Bowbender, you may have been following this all along but that doesn't mean that you're comprehending. The fact you're deliberately ignoring the context of what I was responding to isn't helping. Either that or you need to go back and read what I wrote, then read GG's response to me-- then leave his response to JTV out of the conversation unless you're willing to allow me to attribute comments made by paul zeidan as by you.
>>>"And yet, all Trump, and some folks here, seem to care about is that he hasn't been implicated, yet. Unbelievable."<<<< - My Response to that was - "It's quite possible people are responding to the narrative and those spewing it GG, you pretty much stay above the fray. When every talking head in the media, and every idiot on the talk show circuits is pushing a narrative - and jackasses feel the need to come here and share them......there's going to be push back."
The second part of my response where I assert that GG is pushing the narrative or adding fuel to the fire is directed at that statement.
"Still don’t see where he is pushing an agenda, by wanting to justice done, pushing an agenda, or “putting one self above the fray”. "
And Bowbender, as to "agendas", nice change up of wording there. If you're going to attribute something to me, have the decency to be honest and accurate. Narratives and agendas are not always the same.
nar·ra·tive /?ner?div/ noun: narrative; plural noun: narratives 1. a spoken or written account of connected events; a story. "the hero of his modest narrative" synonyms: account, chronicle, history, description, record, report, story
a·gen·da /??jend?/ noun noun: agenda; plural noun: agendas 1. a list of items to be discussed at a formal meeting. "the question of nuclear weapons had been removed from the agenda" synonyms: list of items, schedule, program, timetable, itinerary, lineup, list, plan, to-do list; trademark day timer "the next topic on the agenda" •a plan of things to be done or problems to be addressed. "he vowed to put jobs at the top of his agenda" *synonyms: list of items, schedule, program, timetable, itinerary, lineup, list, plan, "the next topic on the agenda" •the underlying intentions or motives of a particular person or group. "Miller has his own agenda and it has nothing to do with football" synonyms: plan, scheme, motive; exit strategy Edit.
Trub, it's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.....................:)
"Trub, it's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.....................:)"
Really? I design and build hi-speed automation for a living. Cap-ex projects in excess of $5m. Hardly classifies as someone with low ability.
Zero agenda. And if all you have is the inadvertent misuse of agenda in place of narrative, well then that's all you have.
I'm not sure if wanting justice is a narrative, or an agenda, or both, but that's what I'd like to see out of this investigation.
Bowbender, I edited this out of my post above because I don't really think you are going there and this is unwarranted. - "Intentional dishonesty or just plain old fashioned dishonesty on your part would make some wonder what your agenda is."
I think what I was trying to express, and what was articulated by me was clouded in part with GG responding to JTV in the same post. The point I was trying to make in my initial response - " Thinking everybody is responding to your sentiment alone just fans the flame" is getting lost here.
"And yet, all Trump, and some folks here, seem to care about is that he hasn't been implicated, yet. Unbelievable."
- I'll make it simple, ^^^^^^ - that's GG's narrative that I was responding to, where I alluded he was fanning the flames and pushing a narrative......his, in his own words.
"Since when does wanting justice done regardless of who the bad actors are translate into pushing a narrative? "
You tell me Bowbender, you said it not me.
"Trub, "Unlike you, I'm not cheerleading for a specific outcome to this investigation. I just want justice served. Actually, I'd prefer if Trump and all Americans are exonerated from conspiring with the Russians, so my hesitant faith in our system can remain. Whether that proves to be the case is yet to be determined,"
Bowbender, you asked - Kinda curious.... How does the above ^^^^^^^^ translate into, "yes, you are just as guilty as those pushing the narrative if you reflect on it."
It doesn't because that's not what I was referencing.
also seen here - "thanks for reinforcing my point......... all you are concerned about is Trump......Unlike you, I'm not cheerleading for a specific outcome to this investigation......"
Again, not what I said anywhere, and GG wasn't responding to me with that, he was responding to JTV, go back and look.
but try this....
"Thinking everybody is responding to your sentiment alone just fans the flame. If it was only one person here that says Trump is guilty and indictments against here were coming, no one would give a shit and few would respond. Only then would your comment have had much validity, yes, you are just as guilty as those pushing the narrative if you reflect on it. "
As in, while some are pushing a narrative, GG is guilty of pushing one himself - his narrative - can't help you much after that. Maybe go ask BEG, he can spin anything into what you want to hear.