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Curious if you all think Trump will concede that there was Russian meddling yet or is he still gonna take Putin’s word for it?

They are coming for you Theist.....

Well now

Listening, all I could think...what was different than what has been seen from social media politics, Hollyweirds, and other public figures have done. Only real difference was that they have been identified as "Russians". Paul "Atheist" Zeidan could be charged under the same sorts of accusations.

Still, Mueller et. al. have yet to find any collusion as originally charged. He must be getting desperate to find something to justify his existence. The old adage of "missing the mountain for a molehill" surely applies to his efforts.

Indicting Russian nationals? Really!?! Special council is "special" alright...

Journalism is dead.

It's also significant that the report states the Russians were trying to interfere in the election starting in 2014, way before Trump even became a candidate.

Then there's the fact that their 'interference' was mostly done on social media where they were writing nice things or nasty things about several candidates.

In other words, this entire thing is a total Nothing Burger when it comes to the claims Trump was colluding with the Russkies.

Sorry, Sybil! Must suck to be you!

Which one of the 30+???

What part of "No one on the Trump team was aware the Russians who were trying to influence our elections knew that the Russians were involved" don't you understand?

Can't read, can you?

What part of the disclosure which says NO ONE on the Trump Team knew that any of the people who'd contacted them were RUSSIANS don't you understand?

we got the best candidate of the two and have 7 more years of him

he is articulate and bright, clean and nice looking

2). The invasion. it's still happening, and the GOP controls the White House and both houses of Congress, charged with doing something about it. Except they’re not. Which aligns then w enemies of America. But sure. America First, right? Hell trump still hasn’t enforced sanctions on Russia!

The indictment does more than "not allege," it states that no Americans knowingly participated.

That statement says it all, everything else is irrelevant. Either there was involvement or there wasn't. If there wasn't, it's over.

It establishes that interference did in fact occur outside of any partisan politics/right-wing propaganda attacks.

This protects the rationale for the investigation and allows it to continue.

Trump so far has been right all the way. That must really burrrrrrn. Now all the crazies have left to hang on to in hope is their tear soaked blankies......

Do liberals think that these 13 guys posting on Facebook are going to get Trump recalled? Lol!

Friday on MSNBC’s “All In,” Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) said Russian interference with U.S. elections and political processes that resulted in 13 indictments against Russian nationals was “equivalent” to the attack on Pearl Harbor by Japanese in 1941.

Predictable, I suppose, but sad never-the-less.

The conservatives here point out that Mueller's investigation seems to have blown up the left's claims that Team Trump was colluding with the Russians.

So what do the libs here do? They claim we're supporting Russia!

UFB!

Note also that there is NO WAY Mueller is going to try any of the 13 Russians he's indicted. That would require extradition, which not even the bowlibs are dumb enough to believe could happen, esp. because the US has no extradition treaty with Russia.

"There is no allegation in the indictment of any effect on the outcome of the election." ............–Rod Rosenstein

'nuff said.

He has since refused to impose Russia sanctions that are in law.

And you see nothing wrong with this? Mueller certainly does.

That deadliest of attacks...... dweebs posting fake news on facebook...... good grief.... that's all they could come up with? Sounds more like a PaulZ attack.....

You folks DO know Obama literally used hundreds of thousands of US tax dollars to fund advertising in Israeli media in a blatant attempt to upset Netanyahu in his election?

Does Mueller Indictment Mean Clinton Campaign Can Be Indicted for Chris Steele?

Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted foreign citizens for trying to influence the American public about an election because those citizens did not register as a foreign agent nor record their financial expenditures to the Federal Elections Commission. By that theory, when will Mueller indict Christopher Steele, FusionGPS, PerkinsCoie, the DNC and the Clinton Campaign? Mueller’s indictment against 13 Russian trolls claimed their social media political activity was criminal because: they were foreign citizens; they tried to influence an election; and they neither registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act nor reported their funding to the Federal Elections Commission.

First, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make Steele a criminal: first, he is a foreign citizen; second, he tried to influence an election, which he received payments to do (including from the FBI itself); and third, he neither registered as a foreign agent nor listed his receipts and expenditures to the Federal Election Commission. Also, according to the FBI, along the way, Steele lied…a lot, while the dossier he disseminated contained its own lies based on bought-and-paid for smears from foreign sources reliant on rumors and innuendo.

Second, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make FusionGPS a criminal co-conspirator: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission.

Third, if Mueller’s theory is correct, then three things make PerkinsCoie a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its receipt of payments from the Clinton campaign as a “legal expense.”

Fourth, if Mueller’s theory is correct, then three things make the DNC a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its payments to Steele as laundered legal expenses to a law firm.

Fifth, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make the Clinton Campaign a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its funding of payments to Steele laundered through a law firm as a “legal expense.”

Don’t expect such an indictment. Mueller chose his targets because he knows they will never appear in court, never contest the charges, and cannot be arrested or extradited as Russian citizens. Mueller’s unprecedented prosecution raises three novel arguments: first, that speaking out about American politics requires a foreign citizen to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act; second, that speaking out about American politics requires a foreign citizen list their source and expenditure of funding to the Federal Election Commission; and third, that mistakes on visa applications constitute “fraud” on the State Department. All appear to borrow from the now-discredited “honest services” theories Mueller’s team previously used in corporate and bribery cases, cases the Supreme Court overturned for their unconstitutional vagueness. The indictment raises serious issues under the free speech clause of the First Amendment and due process rights under the Fifth Amendment.

He DID NOT say no "Americans had knowledge of what the Russians were doing."

Major difference!! And there will be many more indictments. Count on it.

Hamilton68

The Kerry State Department approved the visas for the Russian operatives to travel the US in 2014 through 2016 and attempt to interfere with the US election process.

How to disrupt an election: Fake IDs, fraud and Facebook [Associated Press] Desmond Butler, Stephen Braun and Ryan Nakashima, Associated Press ,Associated Press•February 16, 2018

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A year before Donald Trump announced his presidential candidacy, two Russian operatives landed in the United States to lay groundwork for an intelligence operation targeting the legitimacy of the 2016 election.

What began as a Cold War-like attack by an old adversary would mix old-fashioned political agitation with 21st century social media tools that ultimately roiled the election and shook America's political landscape.

The indictment of 13 Russians by special counsel Robert Mueller Friday revealed that the now well-documented Russian social media campaign also relied on extensive intelligence work by operatives on U.S. soil. It also began earlier than commonly believed, first aiming to "sow discord" ahead of the 2016 election and later to boost Trump's candidacy.

The indictment does not specifically tie the influence operation to Russia's intelligence apparatus. Instead, it fingers a group of operatives working for a unit called the "organization," financed to the tune of millions of dollars by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a St. Petersburg businessman dubbed "Putin's chef" because his restaurants have catered dinners for the Kremlin leader and foreign dignitaries.

The scheme outlined in the indictment began with fraudulent visa applications for U.S. travel.

Though some of the Russians were rejected, two operatives, Aleksandra Krylova and Anna Bogacheva, allegedly traveled as tourists through at least nine states over about two weeks in June 2014. They had developed "evacuation scenarios" in case their cover was blown.

Another unindicted operative traveled to Georgia in November of that year.

Prosecutors say the operatives were gathering intelligence used to evaluate political targets on social media. The operation developed metrics on social media groups, measuring things like frequency of posting and audience engagement.

Later, back in Russia, some of the operatives posed as U.S. citizens to contact political and social activists.

The indictment describes one interaction with someone at a "Texas-based grassroots organization" who suggested they target closely-contested purple states like Colorado, Virginia and Florida. It was banal conventional wisdom, but afterward, the Russian operatives began using the jargon in their own interactions, which U.S. authorities somehow were able to access.

The early groundwork set the table before the campaign was in full swing.

Social media accounts were established to lend credibility to their covert efforts. The Russian-based operatives posed as U.S. political activists from all corners. Later, goals were set and enforced by the group's leadership: undermine Hillary Clinton while boosting her Democratic opponent in the primary, Bernie Sanders, as well as Trump.

To obfuscate their efforts, the operatives, working in concert with the Internet Research Agency, a St. Petersburg-based troll farm, purchased server space in the U.S. Using virtual private networks they could conduct their social media interactions while appearing to be based in the U.S.

They also relied on identity theft, stealing and then using the social security numbers, home addresses and birthdates of real Americans without their knowledge, the indictment says.

The operatives set up bank accounts at a federally insured bank, set up accounts at PayPal using stolen identities and fake drivers' licenses, and purchased fraudulent credit card and bank account numbers at as many as six U.S. banks.

The operatives even received money from real Americans who wanted to use the Russian-backed social media pages for their own promotions, the indictment says.

The false identities and accounts aided the covert purchase of internet advertising, circumventing laws to prevent foreign influence in U.S. politics. It also helped stage political rallies — while posing as American political activists, the operatives paid people in the U.S. to promote or disparage candidates.

Starting in June 2016, just weeks after Trump had officially clinched the Republican nomination, the Russians upped the ante of their clandestine work. They began to organize and coordinate pro-Trump political rallies.

To build interest, the Russians promoted the events using their "false U.S. persona social media accounts," contacting unwitting American administrators of large social media groups focusing on U.S. political issues. Using fake pro-Trump Facebook and Twitter accounts, the Russians touted two political rallies in New York, one slated for June 25, 2016, and a second for July 23.

The Russians soon grew bold enough to enlist unwitting Americans in their efforts. One was asked to build a cage on a flatbed truck, while a second American was asked to wear a costume portraying Hillary Clinton in a prison uniform. The Russians, the indictment notes, "paid these individuals to complete the requests."

On June 5, someone posing as an American activist used the Twitter account @March_for_Trump to contact an unnamed Trump campaign volunteer in New York. The Trump volunteer "agreed to provide signs for the 'March for Trump' rally," the indictment alleges.

That internet contact came four days before senior Trump campaign officials, including Trump's son, Donald Jr., and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, met in person with a group of representatives for Russian interests at Trump Tower. The Trump Tower meeting — separately being investigated by the special counsel — is not cited in Friday's indictment and is not known to have any connection with the allegations detailed in it.

By August, the Russian group had moved its sights to Florida, a key swing state, again using false IDs to contact Trump campaign staff involved in Florida activities. The Russians used Facebook and Instagram to promote a series of "Florida Goes Trump" rallies on August 20.

Using a false persona known as "Matt Skiber," the Russians messaged Florida Trump supporters.

"Hi there!" the fake Skiber allegedly wrote awkwardly in English. "I'm a member of Being Patriotic online community. Listen, we've got an idea." Skiber suggested "organizing a YUGE pro-Trump flash mob" in every Florida town.

"We've got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing the events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?"

Trump won the election in Florida by just under 120,000 votes out of more than 9 million cast.

The operation also targeted minority communities to exploit racial fissures and suppress Democratic votes.

On Oct. 16, 2016, three weeks before the U.S. election, the Russian-controlled Instagram account "Woke Blacks" encouraged followers not to go to the polls, saying hatred of Trump was "forcing" black people to vote for "Killary": "We cannot resort to the lesser of two devils. Then we'd surely be better off without voting AT ALL."

Even after Trump won the presidency, the Russians continued to fuel his popularity with ersatz rallies, while at the same time using their false identifies to provoke anti-Trump rallies. One anti-Trump rally was held four days after the election in New York. It was called "Trump is NOT my President." A week later another protest was held in Charlotte, N.C., and was described as "Charlotte Against Trump."

As reports of Russian influence began to surface in the U.S. media, the operatives noticed.

After Facebook said publicly last September that it had found evidence of Russians buying ads on its platform, an email by Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina to a family member on Sept. 13 cited by prosecutors said: "We had a slight crisis here at work: the FBI busted our activity (not a joke). So I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with colleagues."

4chan has a thread alleging Robert Mueller and his high-priced sham investigators got all the names and the idea for his Russian indictment from a 2015 Radio Free Europe article.

We plugged the article into Google translate (It’s in Ukrainian), and the article reads like the Mueller indictment.

And there’s this…

The Russian ads mentioned in Mueller’s indictment were already released by the House Intelligence Committee in November 2017.

Facebook previously announced the Russian ads comprised .004% of their advertising during the election.

As previously reported… The House Intelligence Committee released a sampling of Facebook ads linked to Russia. One of the ads released was a sponsored post for the Nov. 12 anti-Trump march at Union Square against Trump in New York City after the election.

Mueller’s Friday indictment was a nothing-burger that contained information previously reported.

They have nothing.

2. Identify said Russians that were responsible for trying to hack the election, but find out they did not work with ANY Americans to do so...

3. ????

A large number of people who read the Mueller 13-person Russian Indictment released on Friday noted a transparent lack of actual substance. Today the absence of substance turns toward the hilarious.

Much like the heavily touted sketchy 2017 Joint Analysis Report (the infamous “14 U.S. intelligence agencies report“) was really only three political intel agencies, FBI (Comey), CIA (Brennan) and ODNI (Clapper), Friday’s Russian indictment had a lot of pages and citations but in the aggregate was an assembly of nothing-burger reporting of various insignificant social media events.

Today the absurdity of the report becomes even more laughable. As Gateway Pundit reports almost everything in the Mueller indictment was previously outlined in a Radio Free Europe report from 2015. If that wasn’t funny enough, even the Washington Post finds the majority of the indictment was published last October in a Russian Business Magazine (RBC) article.

(WaPo) A 37-page indictment issued by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s team on Friday brings fresh American attention to one of the strangest elements of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election: The Internet Research Agency (IRA), a state-sponsored “troll factory” in St. Petersburg.

But much of the information Mueller published on Friday about the agency’s efforts to influence the election had already been published last October — in an article by a Russian business magazine, RBC.

In a 4,500-word report titled “How the ‘troll factory’ worked the U.S. elections,” journalists Polina Rusyaeva and Andrey Zakharov offered the fullest picture yet of how the “American department” of the IRA used Facebook, Twitter and other tactics to inflame tensions ahead of the 2016 vote. The article also looked at the staffing structure of the organization and revealed details about its budget and salaries. (read more)

So what exactly is going on here? Is this entire narrative really just creating the illusion of something, anything, simply because something began… continued… and was really nothing.

Well, essentially, YES.

The reality of the weak-sauce structure of the indictment reflects the abject absurdity of the two-year-long enterprise known as the vast Muh-Russia’ investigation. Essentially, a joint collaborative effort between the political intelligence community and their codependent media narrative engineers to manufacture a false premise.

Everyone should have noticed the actual missing substance from the 2016 Joint Analysis Report as it was enhanced an presented in 2017. It was a goofy assembly of odd data labeling Russian hackers and such as planetary arch-villains.

(Continued at link...)

The only rational explanation is that by failing to sanction Russia, Trump is fulfilling his side of a quid pro quo agreement with Putin, which makes him complicit in this attack on our electoral process by a hostile foreign power.