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slade 16-Feb-18
bb 16-Feb-18
Shuteye 16-Feb-18
Thumper 17-Feb-18
kentuckbowhnter 17-Feb-18
Shoots-Straight 17-Feb-18
Atheist 17-Feb-18
Bentstick81 17-Feb-18
elkmtngear 17-Feb-18
Atheist 17-Feb-18
Bentstick81 17-Feb-18
Woods Walker 17-Feb-18
Woods Walker 17-Feb-18
Beendare 17-Feb-18
Woods Walker 17-Feb-18
Annony Mouse 17-Feb-18
Shuteye 17-Feb-18
Atheist 17-Feb-18
Annony Mouse 17-Feb-18
Bentstick81 17-Feb-18
Atheist 17-Feb-18
Rocky 17-Feb-18
Atheist 17-Feb-18
Rocky 17-Feb-18
slade 17-Feb-18
Atheist 18-Feb-18
Bentstick81 18-Feb-18
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Kodiak 18-Feb-18
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slade 18-Feb-18
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Atheist 18-Feb-18
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Atheist 18-Feb-18
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Atheist 18-Feb-18
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Rocky 18-Feb-18
Annony Mouse 19-Feb-18
Beendare 19-Feb-18
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From: slade
16-Feb-18
The indictment contained this nugget of “collusion.”

“A volunteer for the Trump campaign in New York…agreed to provide signs” for a Trump rally to a Russian “posing as a US grassroots activist.”

From: bb
16-Feb-18
That's Yuuuge.

From: Shuteye
16-Feb-18
Oh golly gee, Trump's goose is cooked. I like nuggets but i want them batter dipped and deep fried.

From: Thumper
17-Feb-18
"No Americans knowingly helped, or involved in collusion with the Russians", this also clears Hillary.

17-Feb-18
I guess porn stars wont want to bang him anymore now.

17-Feb-18
This is a long ways from done, and clears no one.

From: Atheist
17-Feb-18
Excuse me but if you’re cheering because there’s no ‘collusion’ I’d hold off on buying those balloons. Since collusion in itself isn’t a crime, we couldnt care less. The big fish is obstruction and trumps business dealings/money laundering. Muellers first hires were prosecutors specializing in those two areas. Don’t you wonder why?

From: Bentstick81
17-Feb-18
Boy atheist, the CF's biggest LIAR and FRAUD. The wind is blowing you all over the place, trying to find SOMETHING to nail Trump on. I see the wind has blown you away from the porn star. What will the wind bring us next? 8^)))

From: elkmtngear
17-Feb-18
So, since Russia isn't working for you now...it's money laundering? All I've heard from you is "Russia, Russia, Russia" for the last Year.

You change your narrative, as often as you update and change your multiple personalities! Begone, loser!

From: Atheist
17-Feb-18
It’s business and money laundering with russsia, Russia, Russia. So no, my narrative hasn’t changed a bit.

From: Bentstick81
17-Feb-18
atheist. Thanks again for proving that you are still the CF's biggest LIAR. Yes you have to change your narrative, many times, because you have no PROOF of anything you put on here.

From: Woods Walker
17-Feb-18
Nope Paul, it hasn't. You're still a liar and a fraud.

From: Woods Walker
17-Feb-18

From: Beendare
17-Feb-18
Athiest quote, "It’s business and money laundering with russsia, Russia, Russia. So no, my narrative hasn’t changed a bit."

Well thats not sure is it? if your focus is on that what about all of the Russian donations to the Clintons? What about the Russian connections there with the Uranium one?

Maybe I missed it....but your focus appears to be 'Smear Trump'....and NOT get to the truth. You are a typical one sider.....thinking, 'my side is dirty...but the ways justify their dirty tricks'

Folks with that type of thinking on both side of that equation are bad news. The system matters. We can't have our highest level law enforcement people doing back room political deals...on either side. Our IRS politicized [guilty during the Obama admin] and then the DOJ helped cover it up. The AG Lynch meeting with Clinton in a secret meeting- wake up man.....this is corruption at the highest level.

So thats OK as it serves your agenda?

From: Woods Walker
17-Feb-18
Yeah Spike, but most of us have enough trouble understanding just ourselves. Hesheit has THIRTY PLUS!!!!

From: Annony Mouse
17-Feb-18
Worth posting the entire piece...

Does Mueller Indictment Mean Clinton Campaign Can Be Indicted for Chris Steele?

Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted foreign citizens for trying to influence the American public about an election because those citizens did not register as a foreign agent nor record their financial expenditures to the Federal Elections Commission. By that theory, when will Mueller indict Christopher Steele, FusionGPS, PerkinsCoie, the DNC and the Clinton Campaign? Mueller’s indictment against 13 Russian trolls claimed their social media political activity was criminal because: they were foreign citizens; they tried to influence an election; and they neither registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act nor reported their funding to the Federal Elections Commission.

First, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make Steele a criminal: first, he is a foreign citizen; second, he tried to influence an election, which he received payments to do (including from the FBI itself); and third, he neither registered as a foreign agent nor listed his receipts and expenditures to the Federal Election Commission. Also, according to the FBI, along the way, Steele lied…a lot, while the dossier he disseminated contained its own lies based on bought-and-paid for smears from foreign sources reliant on rumors and innuendo.

Second, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make FusionGPS a criminal co-conspirator: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission.

Third, if Mueller’s theory is correct, then three things make PerkinsCoie a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its receipt of payments from the Clinton campaign as a “legal expense.”

Fourth, if Mueller’s theory is correct, then three things make the DNC a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its payments to Steele as laundered legal expenses to a law firm.

Fifth, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make the Clinton Campaign a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its funding of payments to Steele laundered through a law firm as a “legal expense.”

Don’t expect such an indictment. Mueller chose his targets because he knows they will never appear in court, never contest the charges, and cannot be arrested or extradited as Russian citizens. Mueller’s unprecedented prosecution raises three novel arguments: first, that speaking out about American politics requires a foreign citizen to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act; second, that speaking out about American politics requires a foreign citizen list their source and expenditure of funding to the Federal Election Commission; and third, that mistakes on visa applications constitute “fraud” on the State Department. All appear to borrow from the now-discredited “honest services” theories Mueller’s team previously used in corporate and bribery cases, cases the Supreme Court overturned for their unconstitutional vagueness. The indictment raises serious issues under the free speech clause of the First Amendment and due process rights under the Fifth Amendment.

From: Shuteye
17-Feb-18
Do you suppose Mueller will mention the Russians that were colluding with the Clinton campaign? Or will it be that the Clinton's were unwitting even though they were paying money to a Russian spy? I will believe it when I see it. I don't trust Mueller after seeing all the Trump haters and Hillary lovers he used in his team.

From: Atheist
17-Feb-18
Beendare, uranium one doesn’t exist. There was never any uranium exchanged by Clinton. This has been proven. After several dozen investigations of the Clintons, what’s been found? Nothing. Why? Are all of the investigators including republican led investigations, lying? Covering up for the Clinton’s? With all of the criminal activities performed by the Clintons, did no secret service officers see it? You realize they are obligated to report crimes? I guess you don’t. This is all about trump. He’s a conman. He has been since day one. He’s swindled dozens of people, he’s left the public taxpayer holding the bag after bankrupting a CASINO! The business that basically takes money from people. But sure. He’s all about America because he’s suddenly had a change of heart and went from a selfish business man to an American hero. If you buy that, you were conned too.

From: Annony Mouse
17-Feb-18

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From: Bentstick81
17-Feb-18
Boy atheist. Are you really this STUPID? I mean, really??? Another dem flapping his gums. 8^)))

From: Atheist
17-Feb-18
There Is No Evidence That Uranium Went to Russia

Because a change of company ownership occurred doesn’t mean that 10 to 20 percent of America’s uranium literally went to Russia. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ (Rosatom’s mining subsidiary) is licensed to export uranium from the U.S. to other countries. You might not like that but it doesn’t matter. You don’t have to like facts.

Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company’s Canadian founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.

You obviously know NOTHING. Except for what Fox News wants to feed you.

From: Rocky
17-Feb-18
Atheist, How could it be that you are so convinced and certain of your beliefs? Your answer will be your own indictment, regardless of how you may answer, because you are but a Parrot with a megaphone of selected media reference. Media reference of that which you are being told what and what not to believe and that which you heavily lean upon. Your posts leave wide berth the very real probability of being labeled what we would call on the streets in my youth an "easy mark". A pigeon to be taken for almost all you have save a few feathers to fly home on.

The Rock

From: Atheist
17-Feb-18
Sorry rocky but itsfoxnews telling trump fans that these indictments have exonerated trump. It’s trump fans that are the easy mark. They fell for a conman. Dare I say? You did too.

From: Rocky
17-Feb-18
Continue to belittle yourself with your exaggeration of infinite "inside" knowledge to which you and only you are privy.

The Rock

From: slade
17-Feb-18
Then there’s this…

The Kerry State Department approved the visas for the Russian operatives to travel the US in 2014 through 2016 and attempt to interfere with the US election process.

From: Atheist
18-Feb-18
Rocky it’s not inside info. It’s widely known that trump swindled people. He’s been doing it for years. Hell, he started an expensive university then defrauded it’s students! Sorry, he’s a conman through and through. He’s succeeded with foreign money, in duping some gullible people that hated obama so much that they went to the other far extreme. That’s the fact.

From: Bentstick81
18-Feb-18
atheist. You haven't stated a "FACT", in your life. You are a LIAR. Plain and simple.

18-Feb-18
Helloooo President Pence! Oh wait, he’s got to be involved also...Lol

From: Kodiak
18-Feb-18

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From: Grey Ghost
18-Feb-18
"We still dont want Russia controlling 20% of our uranium!"

Which they don't, but that's the common mistruth the right-wingnuts like to tell.

20% of in-situ production capacity is far different than 20% of total reserves. And that was 2010 estimates. In 2017 it was reported that Uranium One was responsible for a mere 5.9% of all US uranium production.

Furthermore, they don't "control" the uranium, they are just licensed to mine it. The US controls what is done with the uranium.

Sorry if those facts don't jive with your conspiracy theories.

Matt

From: slade
18-Feb-18
On Friday, Special Counsel Robert Mueller announced that a grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals, along with 3 Russian entities, accused of “supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump … and disparaging Hillary Clinton.”

MORE DIRTY MUELLER LIES: Russian Pro-Trump Rallies Total: 31 People… Russian Anti-Trump Rallies Total: 10,100 People

First two events: — March for Trump — Down with Hillary Total attendees: Zero

Third event: — Support Hillary, Save American Muslims Total attendees: Zero

Fourth event: Florida rallies for Trump. — Total attendance: 31 people

Fifth event: Miners for Trump — Total attendance: Zero

Sixth event: Trump is not my president. — Total attendance: 10,000 and Michael Moore

Seventh event: Show your support for Trump — Total attendance: Not sure if it took place

Eighth event: Charlotte Against Trump: — Total attendace: 100

Combined totals for ALL RUSSIAN ORGANIZED RALLIES: Pro-Trump — About 31 Anti-Trump — 10,100

From: slade
18-Feb-18

From: slade
18-Feb-18

From: Rocky
18-Feb-18
Matt,

How to you know these "facts" as you claim for certain? Where have you gleaned this absolute truth? The same question I asked Atheists of his references but of course never received an answer. I would hope you are not going to tell me a media outlet or the internet because I am somewhat impressed with this inside source that you wholeheartedly believe and have confirmed to be unquestioned data of information.

The Rock

From: Annony Mouse
18-Feb-18

Annony Mouse's Link

From: Atheist
18-Feb-18
Rocky if we can’t get our sources from print, media outlets or internet, what do you suggest? Serious question

From: Bentstick81
18-Feb-18
atheist. "Serious question". You, the CF's Biggest LIAR, with a, "Serious Question", it's impossible. 8^))

From: Atheist
18-Feb-18
Bent, your contributions to topics are so intellectually stunning. Isn’t that one brain cell you have lonely?

From: Bentstick81
18-Feb-18
atheist. You can't come up with an HONEST reply on any subject. You are a LIAR. You keep doing it to yourself, daily. Your contributions are all bull$hit. My reply was spot on to a puke like you. Is your reply the best you got??? 8^)))

From: Atheist
18-Feb-18
Poor little snowflake. Dude, the fact that I offend you brings me great joy.

So Please continue to tell me how triggered you get by my posts as everyone laughs at you. That’s right AT you , not with you buttercup. Best to stop now or else you can continue embarrassing yourself. Your choice champ.

From: Bentstick81
18-Feb-18
It brings me GREAT JOY, to expose your LYING a$$, any time i get the chance. I like making you disappear from here for a few days. The only ones that laugh at me is your fan club, which are exactly like you, so they don't mean $hit to me, just like you. I've noticed, that the people that are ripping you, are growing every day. So, keep on LYING to yourself, PHONY, You are good at it. 8^)))

From: Bentstick81
18-Feb-18
Oh, and by the way atheist, just so you won't forget, I will NEVER stop exposing you and your LIES. Dream on idiot. 8^)))

From: Rocky
18-Feb-18
The question has been answered in that the well known less than reliable references are being touted and believed without question to validate your assumptions. That is exactly what they are assumptions. Nothing more nothing less. I would expect in the future that your allegations would begin with.."this is what I heard or read" or " CNN reported" until which time black and white documentation can be verified to solidify your position. You can expect the same from me.

The Rock

From: Annony Mouse
19-Feb-18
From Stilton's Place:

"Mueller's Indictments - After a long (and unfortunately ongoing) investigation, Bob Mueller has revealed that a bunch of Russians had 9-to-5 day jobs which consisted of posting bullcrap on Facebook and Twitter, not to help elect anyone, but just to screw with our heads. An effort which falls somewhere between minor espionage and snickering assholery.

We are shocked - shocked! - to discover that it's not a good idea to get your news from blips and blurps on social media, nor is it a great idea for Americans to forward inflammatory political messages without first checking to see if they're factual. (A meme directed towards our proregressive friends. )

This is, we suppose, evidence of Russian "meddling" in an election (and not for the first time), but semantics matter (unless you're anti-semantic) and meddling simply means the Russian trolls were sand in America's vasoline - irritating, annoying, and inconsequential. "Meddling" does not mean "affecting the outcome of the election," which flat out didn't happen..."

From: Beendare
19-Feb-18
Athiest, I knew I wouldn't get an honest answer from you. parsing words about Uranium one....does that make you feel better to justify the many millions Hillary was getting in 'Donations'. All of your smoking gun finger pointing at Trump....and you don't see the obvious pay to play scheme Hillary was running as Sec of State? You don't see how the Clintons have clearly manipulated the Democratic Party to suit their own use.

OK, then. You are a pawn sir, not capable of independent thoughts. You, like your counterparts are the problem in this country.

IMO, Anyone with such a closed mind to facts on EITHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT is a small minded idiot.

From: Bentstick81
19-Feb-18
Boy atheist. The people list just keeps building. They see right through your PHONY _SS. Keep on hanging yourself. PRICELESS!!!! 8^)))

From: slade
20-Feb-18
“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, there’s no evidence that that has happened in the past or that it will happen this time, and so I’d invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and make his case to get votes.”

""Barack Hussein Obama""

From: slade
20-Feb-18

From: scentman
20-Feb-18
Guess the eighties don't want their foreign policy back... what a shame.

From: Bentstick81
20-Feb-18
Yep JTV. And looky here. One came on here and proved your point. 8^)))

From: Grey Ghost
20-Feb-18

From: scentman
20-Feb-18
They are squeezing blood from a rock... now Hillary that is a big fat steak and a whole lot of fat to feast on... The fix is in and the intrenched are going to milk this for all its worth. Why are not more Americans concerned bout the cost of all this...carte blanche money earmarked to bring down our president!

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