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Yeah, marriage vows, fidelity, and morality are overrated.
Matt
i vote for a president based on policy not personal life. if trump keeps moving the economy along like he is i will buy him a few nights with some porn stars.
And Stormy was 10 years before he became President, and Stormy wasn't an intern at work, and Stormy wasn't getting banged on the desk of the Oval Office. But other than that, the two are very comparable.
If an elected leader is going to screw someone, I'd far rather have it be another consensual adult than them screwing US!
I'm not a meme kinda guy, but this made me laugh.
Matt
This is the real issue. Stormy Daniels' attorney confirms that Michael Cohen used his Trump Organization email while negotiating details of a $130,000 payment. This may have broken federal laws. Can anyone seriously believes that Trump's lawyer payed a porn star $130,000 to remain silent about a sexual relationship with Donald Trump out of his own pocket and Trump knew nothing about it?
Woods,
At least someone gets it. The story of the year. A billionaire playboy taking everything in sight. Who the hell does he think he is? Oh, that right. Anything he wants to be and proved it.
GG, Jealousy is a bitch. Now go right ahead and lie to me.
The Rock
The Rock,
If you think I'm jealous of a silver-spooned narcissit cheater working on his 3rd wife, you're delusional.
It doesn't surprise me that he's your hero, however.
The Matt
it is not illegal to pay someone not to talk about your sex life. athiest you are not very smart.
There you go GG just as I predicted. You must be neuter gender or clinically dead in the zipper.
The Rock
The Rock,
Wrong on both accounts, as usual.
Unlike Trump, and you apparently, the marriage vows I made to my wife 28 years ago, in front of God, family, and friends, still mean something to me. You couldn't pay me enough to dip my wick in a skank like Stormy Daniels.
Now, slink back under that rock you got your nickname from, little man.
The Matt
It is illegal if you dont disclose the payment as per federal law.
What??? No EF Hutton, you PHONY a$$. 8^)))
Anyone besides me think that 'EF Hutton' is simply another false registration from Sybil?
Im amazed that you are so consumed w me. Not sure if I should be flattered or creeped out.
VERIFIED!
'EF HUTTON' is indeed Paul Zeidan.
The reason women have money is because they own all the pussy.
I dispise LIARS atheist. You PHONY ba$tards need exposed, at all costs, for the sake of new comers. Don't want a LYING wuss like you, to head them down the wrong path. Carry on. I will be here waiting for you wuss. 8^)))
I thought I smelled bullshit. What are we up to now, 39? 40? That we KNOW of!
“Bring back that sunny day....”
We are pretty much the same guys posting on the CF, and at this point we all know where each guys stands. Some of you don't mind a 3X married guy sleeping with a porn star while his wife is pregnant. As a Conservative, honor, character, and doing the right thing, even when people are not watching is an important thing. Not because people might find out. But because you will know you did the right thing. Some of you guys that claim to be conservative are pathetic. You slam Bill Clinton while following Trump, finding reasons to differentiate the two. A scum bag is a scum bag. At least we know who we are willing to share a campfire with. You Reality TV republicans (sic) know who you are and can hang out with the same morals and world-view. Donald Trump is an immoral, erratic mess who has put democracy in danger. Pull your heads out of your arses. Time to stop blindly following and start leading. At least Atheist, who many of you guys seem to know (but I don't), is willing to challenge this idiot. Have you lost all sense of honor and character? Conservatives and bow hunters do not act this way or accept someone who claims to be a leader acting this way. Kelly
GGx2 on just about all accounts. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. That stated, a person's private life is his/ her own with which to face judgement. I don't care if it's a Democrat with an intern or a Republican with a porn star, we do our culture an immense amount of damage by spending so much time (any time, really) in the gutter over such issues. We'd all be better off not knowing the names Monica or Stormy.
I got more important things to worry about then whether Trump banged a pornstar or not.
For instance did Mitch Rompola kill a potential world record or did he fake it.
Yeah, marriage vows, fidelity, and morality are overrated
according to which party is in charge. Fixed..... Matt
atheist challenges everything about the POTUS. The bad thing is, his challenges are made up with LIES. Doesn't work very well here on the CF. There is a difference between debating, and LYING. atheist has had numerous chances to come clean. If he would, no one would have to bring out the LIES he states. It's his choice to come clean, and stop the abuse he gets for LYING, or continue down that long LYING road. It's your choice to back a LIAR or not. In two more years, you can use your vote to vote out Trump, but i think we will see a second term with Trump. The dems are digging their own grave, and the people see it.
We are discussing this as if he undoubtedly did this. It's a credibility issue with me. We have a women that sold hers and we have a guy that up until a year or two ago, had none in some peoples eyes. Do we KNOW he did this? No we do not. Remember Herman Kane? This is no different other then Trump has already achieved the presidency.
IF he did do this, that was before he was president or, any other politician on OUR time. He hasn't lied to Congress about it. He hasn't looked into the face of the camera, on a prime time special and lied to every single one of his employers either. This has no resemblance to the 90's and Bill Clinton. None. And anyone saying different is a political hack blinded by their own dumbassness.
Here is the real issue though. Do you people truly believe that this guy did this? I don't know one way or the other but, I find it a little to convenient that the party that acts in every way against family values spends so much time and money on trying to demoralize political opponents that scare them. Are you dumb enough to believe that every conservative representative that has opposed liberal politicians is a sexual predator or, has cheated on his wife? This has become the playbook scenario for liberal smear campaigns for a reason.
My feelings on this are pretty simple. I find the accusations that it happened ten years ago, far enough out that no one can put this women of questionable values in any particular place by memory, a little to convenient. It is hard to make that clam go away with rebuttal alone because NO one can remember what their neighbor was doing or, who they were doing it with 10 years ago. Because it really is of no interest to you. People like to preach judgement and seem to forget that pointing out a sin is different then acting as if you live above another persons sin. I truly cannot say anything other then infidelity is wrong. And, we have absolutely no ability to put our personal importance on what another person does.
Plainly, we do not know what has happened here. All we have is an old picture of Donald Trump with this women. We have accusations that he "cheated" on his wife with this porn star. Someone who has no problems with doing anything she had to for money. And, we have no proof one way or the other. Damage control happens every single day. If you have never been in a civil lawsuit, that statement has zero meaning to you. If you have been, then you know that lawyers do not have a hard time finding someone that SAYS they need to be compensated for some action you did. In today's world and layer bills, that is often cheaper then the truth. And finally, if you for one second believe that, based on this accusation, that this women is acting in a truly believable way, in her own interests, then at this point yo have expressed to much ignorance to be taken seriously. The left's ace in the hole has become to deface every single political opponent they have with scandals involving American Family values. They have done the same here except it took almost two years to find a scenario that can't be rebutted or, dismissed as trivial by the American people. So, until Trump says he is guilty, I gotta believe this is just another attempt to make something appear out of thin air. That's just my thoughts at this point
WV. Exactly. Good post. We are better off to wait for PROOF, something that a few on here has none of, before you bash Trump for it. But, it's all the dems, and liberal media have got. No PROOF, just bash him, and the people see what the dems are doing and will bite them in 2020. If you don't like him, wait two years, use your vote to get him out.
EFPaulabletheist IS a lie!
Hey dope pusher....How about a guy who lied continuously to America about a scam that took over 1/5 of the US economy? That count? HELL NO! It was by a Democrat, and an unqualified affirmative action pick to boot. Please spare us your bong logic.
"Here is the real issue though. Do you people truly believe that this guy did this? "
Yes I do. It seems to fit his character to a T. I'd also bet Stormy Daniels isn't the only whore he's cheated with.
Just my 2 pennies and a pocket full of lint.
Matt
Yeah, I do. Fits his pattern of behavior. A thrice married man with a history of affairs who has been caught on record bragging about how he’s forced himself on women all while married. If nothing happened then putting a confidentiality agreement in place also seems quite unnecessary.
Paying her in a roundabout way makes her a prostitute, right?
"Just my 2 pennies and a pocket full of lint." Coincidentally the same denomination and substance that was placed in escrow for your education that you obviously squandered, in the least on this thread. Spend a little time on the beach in a resort and tell me you only choose and can see the rolling water and thinking about your lobster dinner. I know people like you who claim they never cheated. I met them a thousand times when their wife caught them looking, thinking and rolling in lust. Their retort: "I was admiring her beauty that's all." The truth be told your vision of being a tanned James Bond on the beach in Dr. No with Ursula Andress remains dancing in your empty head. What are you thinking 007? Another dry Martini. Lemon peel, shaken not stirred?
There. You are right at home on another planet. Time for a saliva test. ;-)
The Rock
Spare me the selective outrage. So the lawyer used the wrong email account to do the business?
To the lefty loony tunes, obviously this is a FAR more egregious offense than having an unsecure email server in your bathroom to conduct government business!
""Im amazed that you are so consumed w me. Not sure if I should be flattered or creeped out.""
Really? I don't know of any other person who posts here with over 30 aliases. The normal people who post here should be creeped out.
Now if Stormy Daniels was a Russian and Money we're uranium all would be well
Hey Matt, can you prove he did it? If somebody told me you had cheated on your wife, not knowing you by any other means then what I have seen here, I'd lean towards that being true as well, basing it purely on the ego you convey here. Computationally driven to be seen as correct on all subjects, to the point that you express not caring when you aren't, kinda sounds like the guy you say you deplore. You share many of the same personality traits. So, by your reasoning, it is safe to assume like they would probably react in the same way if given the chance. Right? Tell us again how deplorable he is and, expect us to take it with anything more then a grain of salt. It's amusing to watch.
BEG, I wouldn't assume any different from you. Nor you bownarrow. You two both have a personal disdain for the man that goes beyond politics and, given any chance will try to paint him with your preferred brush. At any cost. Including your personal credibility.
As I said before, if you can't prove what you think then you are doing nothing more then spreading your version of unknowns and, applying your man made criteria to degrees. Jesus himself told us that lusting after another mans wife was adultery in itself. So, you are as guilty as Trump, if he did do this. But, that's different isn't it? Sure it is.
Leaving your morals at the door seems to be the detractors game plan. Name, deface, ridicule, maybe even lie to get the agenda you want. That has become the norm for a lot of people. Whether he did this or not doesn't matter most to his opposition. And, its fools like you that makes that sad reality possible.
WV, in case you missed it, the question that was asked was “Do you people truly believe that this guy did this?” It wasn’t “do you know for a fact that Trump cheated on his wife with a porn star?” Doesn’t surprise me that you don’t recognize the distinction. I merely gave my opinion, which was asked, and stated why I have that opinion.
"Hey Matt, can you prove he did it?"
Obviously not. Nor did I claim to have proof. The question was, "Do you people truly believe that this guy did this? ". By definition a belief lacks empirical evidence or proof.
So, my answer remains yes, I do believe he did this. And in this case, I'd actually prefer to be wrong. I'd like to think the leader of our country has more morals than that. But, I also recognize that no man is without sin.
Matt
In case you missed it BEG, I'm the one that asked that question initially. And, since you pulled it from GG's post instead of reading the context in which it was written, you missed the whole point. It doesn't change what I said about you. You earned that all by yourself.
GG, refer to my reply to Matt. Taking that one question out of context makes your answer seem justified doesn't it. I wasn't truly asking what your opinion is. You presented that your first post for any idiot to see. It was the reasoning you used for justifying your opinion that I was curious about.
Is it possible that Donald Trump has committed his life to Christ, been forgiven of all his past sins and this is just another way by Satan to attempt to bring all them back up? Entirely possible. Sooooooooooooo Its between him, his wife and family and God. Therefore I could care less what he or any of you who aknowledge and love Jesus have done in your pasts. What we have is a gold, digger and a bunch of hypocrits attacking a man that they should be praying for and that God has set in his place.
God bless, Steve
WV,
What context did I leave out? Are you talking about your rant on the "liberal smear campaign" or your attempt to smear me? Either way my answer to your original question remains the same.
My reasoning for believing Trump did this is simple. It fits his MO. If you think I also fit that MO, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, too.
Matt
Nobody knows and I could care less about the weaknesses that every man carries.
I do know this about Donald Trump as POTUS. He is keeping our enemies on their heels, the economy on its toes and the liberal MSM on its back. That trade off is more than worth a roll in the hay.
The Rock
X2 Rock.....and don't forget this......... G O R S U C H !!!!
And all JTV has is stupid memes that he continues to post, ad nauseum, because he doesn't have anything substantive to add to the conversation.
You are truly boring to me.
Matt
Excellent meme JTV. Very descriptive, and very correct.
Keep going Matt, you prove that egotistical personality with every post. I never tried to smear you. Nor was that a liberal campaign rant. You are simply too proud to acknowledge reality and, whats been said up to now about this if it doesn't include Trump being a slim ball. It isn't likely you will change that if I explain it 50 more times.
Heck he'll probably find her a position in his second term... ahh the winds of change.
"Keep going Matt, you prove that egotistical personality with every post. "
Thank you. I believe a person's sense of self-esteem is essential to be influential. Where you derive that self-esteem is even more critical. That's where Trump fails, IMO. You're welcome to disagree.
Matt
“You are simply too proud to acknowledge reality and, whats been said up to now about this if it doesn't include Trump being a slim ball.”
To me his history of being a slime ball is pretty relevant and provides plenty of context when you are asking whether anyone believes he actually did this. That, plus the fact that there was a payment, and a non disclosure agreement, and other women claiming he same thing. If you’ve got a problem with people sharing what they believe, then stop asking them to.
They will defend Trump like the Democrats defended Clinton. Both morality wise are a disgrace...
Dunno pat i still say monica was hotter.
“The fact of the matter is that each party to this alleged affair denied its existence in 2006, 2011, 2016, 2017 and now again in 2018,” the statement read. “I am not denying the affair because I was paid ‘hush money’ as has been reported in overseas owned tabloids. I am denying this affair because it never happened.”
Unfortunately, for the Stormy obsessed, the new biopic of Teddy and his non-floating Oldsmobile is premiering at Martha's Vineyard which will show how the Dems and complacent media covered up a murder...making it easier to see that this episode from 12 years ago for what it is. Rather than headline news, this should be between Trump and his wife.
Trump will ride this Storm out as he has all the others.
"Thank you. I believe a person's sense of self-esteem is essential to be influential."
Matt, BEG has already exhibited a lack of common sense and understanding about many topics. I doubt you are influencing him as much as you think.
Consider this... Just as Trump was preparing to pay off Stormy Daniels to keep his affair with a porn star quite, he was parading Bill Clinton's accusers to the microphone in order to make it appear as if he was man of strong morals and values. And you bought it. You were conned. Again and again.
Consider that context...
So atheist. How do you hide the way you LIE, and being the FRAUD you are, from the students of Briarcliff Manor High School??? You are a Conn man yourself, wuss. You still make Trump look like a saint.
JTV, I had that picture in my office for years. Also, had a sign that read "Your lack of planning does not make it an emergency on my part".
If Obama’s past was unimportant neither is Trump’s.
If Obama’s past was unimportant neither is Trump’s.
I'm seem to recall the right obsessing over Obama's birth certificate and his college transcripts, so apparently his past WAS important to some.
Matt
Stormy is supposed to be in a Detroit strip club on Wednesday as part of her "Make America Horny Again" tour.......
Stormy's business and career are probably booming. Trump just doing his part for the economy.
She's offering to give back the $130,000 hush money so she can break the 2016 agreement not to speak publicly about the alleged fling....... Then she would hit the lottery.
I'd suspect that he did have a relationship of sorts with Stormy Daniels. If so, it's certainly not illegal and way before he was president. But it would certainly suggest that he may be a smidge self centered and not to worried about the good of those around him. Unless he say's "Yup, I did it" we will never know for sure though, so it's mostly just a bit of gas to toss on a contentious conversation.
JTV, not being an a-hole, just curious. I've seen you note President Trump having higher ratings than President Obama at this point a few times. I've not heard that anywhere over the past year and a few months, so I just checked Gallup, given they are a pretty straight forward fact finding pollster (as far as I know). They show President Trumps best rating this past year and a bit a little under President Obama's worst from his presidency. UNLESS you look at views of President Obama through only Republican eyes, they ranked him quite low, but the overall national avg's show that he had ok ratings through out, and far higher than Trump over the first year on average.
The funny part, is that President Trumps ratings look almost mirror opposite when comparing R's to D's (according to Gallup - last link below) of President Obama's - and the reverse was true while Pres. Obama was in office. But the Independent's had a far higher view of Obama comparatively overall. Again, that's based on Gallup.
Info like that is why I'm curious why you keep saying Trumps numbers were higher than Obama's? Are you referencing the view of Republicans (which clearly show a high ranking for Pres. Trump and had equally low views of Pres. Obama), or are you looking at some other data set from someplace?
Again, not trying to be a dink, just trying to take on board more or better info, and you have me curious since I've not seen any numbers much different from the Gallup numbers below?
Obama year 1, LOW via Gallup = 49, with 57 as the avg for the first year. http://news.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx
Trump most recent via Gallup = 39 with 38 as the 1yr~ avg http://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx
Overview of Trump year 1 v other presidents historically, bottom has a table with indipendents, Repubs and Dems. http://news.gallup.com/poll/226154/trump-first-year-job-approval-worst-points.aspx
Who cares ?? He's an ugly old billionaire with a trophy wife. She probably has a stable of young bucks......
GG, some also think Elvis is still alive. But to the Obama followers, his past was unimportant, so there shouldn't be any double standards. Sorry to disappoint you.
"But to the Obama followers, his past was unimportant..."
What in Obama's past are you referring to as being "unimportant"? I think it's a stretch to say anyone's past is viewed as unimportant. I think it's more accurate to say that individuals will weigh past behavior in context, aligned with their perspectives and biases. I don't think these revelations will change much about how anyone views Trump -- half of the country already felt he was a slimeball and this just confirms it; the other half obviously didn't care about his past behavior enough to stop supporting the man and likely doesn't care about this.
Bear - "Stormy is supposed to be in a Detroit strip club on Wednesday as part of her "Make America Horny Again" tour"
How was it?
Will - "Unless he say's "Yup, I did it" we will never know for sure though, so it's mostly just a bit of gas to toss on a contentious conversation."
Somewhere it is reported that Stormy might have pictures/videos. There might be a dick pic with a bad combover.
^^^ I'll have to ask some of the single guys I work with..... Maybe they can get their picture taken with her.
Who cares? Trump has courted the evangelicals since day one. He’s made up this holier than thou persona and every trump living clergy has bitten. “He’s a changed man, forgiven by the lord, he’s seen the ways of his sins and repented’. Except he’s on record saying he’s never asked god for forgiveness. Regardless it’s tough to sell yourself as a holy man to religious leaders just as you’ve had 5 kids w 3 different women and several affairs on the side as well as his comments on women.
And yes it matters because he’s the leader of this nation. And as most of you profess (wrong as it is) this country to be based on Christian principles, Well trump is as Christian as I’m a grizzly bear.
The Briarcliff Baron Of Bullshit wants to know who cares. Like who cares about the TRUTH? CERTAINLY not YOU (all), Baron!
atheist. You are jumping to conclusions. You would be wise to wait for PROOF that Trump was with her. But no, you would rather do what you do best, and LIE. You have had plenty of chances to change your ways from LYING, at every reply, but you won't. No one is going to quit exposing your LYING A$$, until YOU change. And yet you make note of Trump not changing. Why should he, if you won't???
Big Bear: if you could, please have one of them dress up as Trump. Bring back pictures to the CF. We'll have to run to Walmart to get depends for some of these guys.
How can he sue her for violating an NDA about their sexual relationship when he claims they never HAD a sexual relationship. Damn dude are you that blind that you just believe everything he says? He’s an expert conman. You’ve been conned.
I love how Trumpers claim this is just a nothingburger the “MSM” is promoting and yet they’re clearly spending endless resources trying to keep her quiet. Why?
Who cares Trump likes women! Everyone knew when he ran and didn't care. He didn't rape anybody and sure doesn't fall into the Clinton Category. Sure he is married but that's between him and his spouse.
One thing for sure atheist. We CAN'T and SHOULDN'T believe ONE THING, that you say. So why does it bother you when someone believes what Trump said??? YOU are a CON MAN, and you think it's fine. DOUBLE STANDARD i see atheist. The PHONY WUSS.
Boy atheist The list of people that now know just how FAKE and a LIAR you are, is growing every day. Got to keep exposing the TROLL you are. It is working, and you keep doing all the work. I don't mind at all. 8^)))
Abe: You post here under a false registration and then criticize someone about being "conned"??? Are you serious? You're biggest "CON-ER" here!
So please tell Abe:
1. Why are you still here when you promised that if Trump won that you'd leave the CF forever. He did and you're still here.
2. How is it that you work in New York near Connecticut and you live in Pennsylvania? Another lie,"Abe"??? Must be one hell of a commute.
Is Trump admitting he's David Dennison by suing Stormy for breaching the NDA? Trump: “Yes I lied about not having sex with a porn star but now I'm suing to stop her talking about it" --- I think he forgot which end of the con he's running.
Regardless. Sunday night on 60 minutes Stormy Daniels is going to tell the country the details of their relationship AND that she was threatened with PHYSICAL HARM if she didn't take the money and sign the NDA with Trump. This Presidency is now officially a hot mess.
That's right Abe, dodge the questions.....again. Can't face it Abe, huh? Tell us more about "CONS". You're the expert on that.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman......... (I just stuck a cigar you know where while getting a you know what) !!!! Ha !!!!!!!
"Is Trump admitting he's David Dennison by suing Stormy for breaching the NDA? Trump: “Yes I lied about not having sex with a porn star but now I'm suing to stop her talking about it" --- I think he forgot which end of the con he's running."
Unless Athiest goes by Rokey on Twitter, we can add plagiarism to the list of his dishonest behavior.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23stormydaniels&lang=en
Matt
Was Clinton impeached for his behavior? Was Clinton courted and supported by evangelicals across the country regardless of his indiscretions. Did Clinton require NDA and then threaten his mistress?
The GOP impeached Clinton over a single BJ but they turn a blind eye to Trump's numerous affairs, payoffs to porn stars and bragging about sexually assaulting women. Talk about the definition of hypocrisy.
You can't impeach a President for an affair and certainly not for one that happened before he ran for President. Clinton's impeachment was due to a crime.
Clinton was not impeached for a blow job. He was impeached for lying about the blow job...Liberals just cannot get that thru their thick skulls...I don't know why...
It was years ago, atheist. Not only that, Bill and Monica was in the Oval Office. You claim Trump's numerous affairs, show us the PROOF. What Trump done before he was POTUS, has nothing to do with today. Bottom line is atheist, you and all the dems can't handle defeat, and want to impeach Trump, for anything. Wait two more years, and try and vote him out. As dramatic,desperate, and all the LIES you dems are doing, you guys are going to do nothing but help get Trump another term. Thanks by the way. 8^)))
Ok. So nothing Trump did in his past has any relevance to today. If that is what you are saying you are far more delusional than I originally thought. The character of a man is not made the day he becomes president. What if Trump was conducting himself illegally for years. Doesn’t that mean you elected a criminal? Let’s let Mueller continue his investigation. Shall we?
atheist. You are complete DUMBA$$ for even hinting you know anything about a "Character of a man." Maybe a wuss. Look at it this way. Trump might have changed from his past, and you did to. You left your ways to become a LYING CON MAN. You went the wrong direction. Hang yourself again, IDIOT.8^)))
Trump is not a great person. But he is still a better person than Hillary, Bill, Obama, Holder, Lynch, Powers, Rice, Abedin, Weiner, etc.
And, even though not a great guy Trump is doing GREAT things for the people who elected him! I'll take that for now and re-evaluate in 3 more years. Build that wall !!
He was elected even with his baggage and he beat Hillary with all her baggage. So, that tells me that he was elected because of policy.
Suck it up
What the left can't handle (so they avoid going there) is that they are actually responsible for Trump being elected. Failed policies, amazingly poor candidate choices, ignoring fly over country and too arrogant to look in the mirror and ask themselves how they lost to someone they are convinced is so bad.
With Russian help. Dot leave that out. Trump won w Russian help. He knows it, Mueller knows it and soon everyone will know it.
What everyone already knows Abe is that you do not keep your promises and that you have close to 40 fake registrations here on the CF alone.
With Russian help? So if Hillary had won, would it have been with Merkel's help from Germany, and Cameron's help from England, and Hollande from France, and the leaders of Iran, China, Qatar, etc... .who all vocally opposed Trump?
What about Obama, the Deep State, and every major US news agency who ran a biased anti-Trump agenda 24/7? You think THAT isn't trying to collude with one particular political party to overthrow the will of the people???
atheist. Thanks for another DUMBA$$ reply, with absolutely NO PROOF. Little Part time marine. 8^)))
atheist. The way you come storming on here, throw a LIE out, and duck away for a while, your new handle should be STORMY ATHEIST. 8^)))
Cambridge Analytica is your proof. People with direct connections to Cambridge Analytica:
- Steve Bannon - Kellyanne Conway - Ted Cruz - Robert Mercer - Rebekah Mercer - Donald Trump
Know what they did? Stole people’s info. Steve Bannon was a VP of Cambridge Analytica before joining Trump's campaign.
Bannon in all likelihood knew about C.A.'s illicit use of Facebook customer information in 2015 and 2016.
I.e., Trump's campaign is directly implicated in the Facebook-C.A. scandal.
STORMY ATHEIST with another flash. 8^))))
atheist. Go to MSN. They have a bunch of bull$hit you can copy and put on here. All FACTS, of course. They know they have suckers like you, to put it on a web site, and you claim it, showing everyone how gullible you are, and turns you into the LIAR you are. And of course we are here to let you know how STUPID you are. Any time. 8^))))
The only proof Abe is that YOU'RE a fake and a liar who dodges questions. Coward.
No one reads your copy and paste drivel JTV. I understand it’s your best effort at looking intelligent. It isn’t working bud. Give it up.
Matt, "Yeah, marriage vows, fidelity, and morality are overrated". Unfortunately for those who populate the present social makeup of this country they are overrated. The pillars of a society once revered have been ground to dust. Plunging necklines, dresses worn so high they could be used as a lobster bib, enhanced breasts, butts, lips, Viagra etc. all to get you into the sack. Correct?
You gotta be kiddin' me about morality when the new axiom " if it feels good do it" has swept the females of this nation off their feet onto their backs...literally. Ironically these days the man gets flamed for poking some fun. My how things and the tables have turned. A woman can spread her legs like cheese whiz, brags about it and gets an applause. Once considered a whore has now ascended the throne. ;-)
Morals?
The Rock
It would be best to summarize the important parts with a supporting link. Or lay out your case in your own words. Even I can't reason the long posts, and I tend to be too wordy myself!
Atheist - did you give up on that Crucible claim? How many years were you on active duty starting in 1987??
You can research a screenshot of my DD214 somewhere on this site. You’ll get your answers there. I don’t like your attitude so I won’t make it easy for you. Deal w it.
I looked for that DD214 he says he posted with the bowsite search engine, but if an attachment it may have been removed. Conveniently. I just don't see this guy as a 10yr Marine. And there was that other identity he used, where he claimed to have served 6yrs 7 months. Was he lying then or lying now?
One thing we know for sure, when he is about to be caught in a lie he gets REALLY evasive about any straight answer. Like with the Crucible story. And now with how many years he served on active duty. If it should be a simple answer (especially one he should be proud of...) and we can't get a straight answer.... odds are he is full of poop. Again.
As it pertains to abetheist, i believe you have been arguing with a schoolkid... his actions and attitude on communication seem a bit immature. Do most agree?
You can contact my Marine Corps league detachment. Do you like the other stalkers here and figure out how to do it.
I don't think this iteration of PaulyZ is one of his school kids. This one is more of a professional experienced fraud. He appears to have been a Marine, just embellishing (lack of candor) about the particular details and maybe total duration.
He is good enough at words to know when he has to dodge any straight answer for fear of being exposed as a serial liar. That is some long standing career expertise lying right there. Classic dem liberal. They even lie about THAT now calling it 'progressive' as if that were different. Ha! Not kid stuff.
Just let my son read this post that Atheist claim as a Marine. My son was in from 03-06 with the 1/4 Weapons Co. and 3/1 Weapons Co. base out of Camp Horno, Camp Pendleton,Ca., spent 28.5 months (3 tours) in Iraq,was part of the invasion force, went through part of Fulujah, Najif and was in part of the Hadidah fiscal, this is just for qualification. My son's opinion of this pog (his word) and the Crucible was just a laugh that he has a delusional personality that he deals with at his employment everyday at the VA. Myself, I was not a Marine, just USN Hospital Corpsmen that dx in 11/72 and told both sons not to enlist in the Marines, he listen well.
atheist. "I won't make it easy for you." Another side step, because the wuss can't hide his LIES. Give it up moron. You are toast. PRICELESS!!! 8^)))
We've got more than a few Marines here to keep Atheist in check. I just happen to be a Marine that is also good with cross examination. :-)
Apparently people here have seen his DD214 that lists the MOS of photographer as he has said? And Atheist is right that every Marine is first and foremost a rifleman. (* though not the same in-service creds of an actual 0311 rifleman).
I just called bullsh1t on some of his previous identities here claiming instructor of hand to hand combat at Quantico, and double secret Muslim language specialist, and the timeline presented of a young Marine vs old Marine, etc. I'm sure some other guys remember all that...!
STORMY ATHEIST. Swoop In and swoop out. A LIAR'S way of attack. No nuts. 8^)))
"Atheist - did you give up on that Crucible claim? How many years were you on active duty starting in 1987??"
"I just don't see this guy as a 10yr Marine. "
I have not seen the previous comments so I may be wrong. If he completed the Crucible as a recruit, in 1987, then something seems off.
The crucible wasn't incorporated until 1996. If he joined in 1987 he would have completed ICT at either MCRD Parris Island or MCRD San Diego. If he was a drill instructor or part of the MRCD training staff then he may have gone through.
Also, the crucible wasn't added to Marine Corps OCS until relatively the same time (I think 1996 or 97). If he was enlisted, got a commission, then it's possible he went through it there.
Again, I have not seen the previous comments and if I am mistaken then I apologize.
Semper Fidelis 1986 - 2014
atheist. Are you sure you wasn't confused, and you are the CORK GUN CHAMPION in the Carnival???
Thunder I had the privilege of photographing the inaugural event of the crucible. I was a Marine in 87. Not Sure if you recall But Gen Krulak designed it and was very proud of his work. I was fortunate enough to be involved. A hallmark of my short USMC career.
" just called bullsh1t on some of his previous identities here claiming instructor of hand to hand combat at Quantico, and double secret Muslim language specialist, and the timeline presented of a young Marine vs old Marine, etc. I'm sure some other guys remember all that...!"
Including leading troops as a Marine captain into Fallujah ( I think) losing men....after getting out, becoming a school teacher. A position he has held for what 18 years now....
Just look for HunterBrad in the following.
http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforums/thread.cfm?forum=1&threadid=438973#3947106
http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/regional/thread.cfm?threadid=220317&MESSAGES=34&state=Ct#2322103
http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/regional/thread.cfm?threadid=220260&MESSAGES=26&state=NY#2320311
atheist. "A hallmark of my short USMC career". Then you decided to be a FULL TIME LIAR & FRAUD. That was a DIP$HIT move. This moved wiped out your short USMC career, and delivered to you "O" CREDIBILITY.
Atheist - you just said "short USMC career". So starting in 1987 you were not even on active duty when you 'took pictures' of the Crucible??
So this this whole nonsense went from you challenging JTV (an actual Marine sniper) on his credentials throwing words around like 'running the Crucible'.... to you not actually running it yourself.... to you just taking a picture of someone else running it.... to you now being a civilian taking pictures of the Marines running it?!?!?!? Wow!
Came here for pictures of Stormy Daniels. Got pictures of Atheist. I shan't return to this thread until we have pictures of Stormy.
"JTV, you’ve only claimed you were a Marine. I call BS. You’d never last a Day at the Crucible." - Atheist 3/18/18....
Says the guy who took a picture of it. Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys know Atheist was there taking pictures for his high school's newspaper right?
Sniper manual on EBay for 39.99. What a buy. Why don’t you get the matching green monster and a set of cammies too.
JTV - I never got to go to Sniper School but I hear it was one of the toughest to graduate. However, I did beat my Sergeant at the range and he came over from Recon as a sniper. I shot a 232 for base high score.
Then some 25 years later competing on the History channel for the title of "Top Shot". Ooo-rah! :-)
When I think of a Marine I think of a stoic yet humble human being, with no reason to prove himself to anyone... abetheist is just the opposite and I really think he needs sympathy, he surely needs much attention and we fill that need guys. Pray for him...seriously, he is crying for help.
With all of atheist's fake registrations, he could've picked any name in the Marines, and said that it's him. Hell, i bet the moron was never in the Marines. With all his names, he can't even prove that he was. He's to much of a dumba$$. Someone would have showed him that you don't LIE to others in the military, if he was actually in the Military. atheist, you are the biggest IDIOT to hit the CF. You won't talk to some because we have your LYING a$$ pegged. Nice try on the Marine story, but you are LYING out your a$$.
Brotsky - not to disappoint, here is Stormy Daniels photo you were looking for here....
"When I think of a Marine I think of a stoic yet humble human being, with no reason to prove himself to anyone..."
You mean like this..... LOL
Yea, but he means well!:0)
Damn BowSniper. I bout spit my coffee all over my key board on that one. There is probably more truth to that, than we think. 8^)))
Talk about going for the jug-gulars :-)
See how fun it is when the kid is in bed?
