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Grey Ghost 21-Mar-18
MT in MO 21-Mar-18
TGbow 21-Mar-18
Atheist 21-Mar-18
Bentstick81 21-Mar-18
Grey Ghost 21-Mar-18
HDE 21-Mar-18
SB 21-Mar-18
HDE 21-Mar-18
TGbow 21-Mar-18
Grey Ghost 21-Mar-18
TGbow 21-Mar-18
HA/KS 21-Mar-18
TGbow 21-Mar-18
HDE 21-Mar-18
Thumper 22-Mar-18
zeke 22-Mar-18
Your fav poster 22-Mar-18
woodguy65 22-Mar-18
Grey Ghost 22-Mar-18
Michael 22-Mar-18
HDE 22-Mar-18
Bentstick81 22-Mar-18
gflight 22-Mar-18
Bentstick81 22-Mar-18
bigeasygator 22-Mar-18
TGbow 22-Mar-18
Woods Walker 22-Mar-18
Woods Walker 25-Mar-18
Grey Ghost 25-Mar-18
Mike the Carpenter 25-Mar-18
Will 25-Mar-18
Woods Walker 25-Mar-18
Bentstick81 25-Mar-18
Woods Walker 26-Mar-18
Bentstick81 26-Mar-18
Woods Walker 26-Mar-18
lawdy 26-Mar-18
Your fav poster 26-Mar-18
Bentstick81 26-Mar-18
TGbow 26-Mar-18
Your fav poster 26-Mar-18
Bentstick81 26-Mar-18
gflight 26-Mar-18
MK111 26-Mar-18
Bentstick81 26-Mar-18
gflight 26-Mar-18
lawdy 26-Mar-18
Your fav poster 27-Mar-18
Bentstick81 27-Mar-18
TGbow 27-Mar-18
Your fav poster 27-Mar-18
Bentstick81 27-Mar-18
Woods Walker 27-Mar-18
Bentstick81 27-Mar-18
TGbow 27-Mar-18
TGbow 27-Mar-18
Woods Walker 27-Mar-18
TGbow 27-Mar-18
Your fav poster 27-Mar-18
Woods Walker 27-Mar-18
sleepyhunter 27-Mar-18
Woods Walker 27-Mar-18
Bentstick81 28-Mar-18
Bowbender 28-Mar-18
From: Grey Ghost
21-Mar-18
Who is your carrier?

Matt

From: MT in MO
21-Mar-18
Yeah, but do you have maternity leave coverage for your 68 year old grandpa?

From: TGbow
21-Mar-18
Good..now if we can just get rid of the scam they call Social Security

From: Atheist
21-Mar-18
TG. You realize that SS is your money, right?

From: Bentstick81
21-Mar-18
Nice switch atheist. You are all over the place. 8^))))

From: Grey Ghost
21-Mar-18
I'd still love to hear the name of Buckiller's carrier, and more details about his coverage.

Matt

From: HDE
21-Mar-18
I would prefer to invest my own SS money the way I see fit, thank you very much!

From: SB
21-Mar-18
If it wasn't for Soc.Sec. I would now have ZERO income. I paid into it for 42 yrs.....it's MY money!

From: HDE
21-Mar-18
Well, actually, you're spending mine. Just as someone else spent yours...

From: TGbow
21-Mar-18
Atheist, yes sir I do realize it's my money...that is extracted from my check...which the government takes and holds while I make no interest off of it.

It's a joke really.

From: Grey Ghost
21-Mar-18
Well said, TGbow.

SS is a joke. More accurately, it's a way for the feds to leverage our money to fund their mistakes and inefficiencies. Thats exactly why I've avoided paying into the system all my life...legally of course. ;-)

Matt

From: TGbow
21-Mar-18
GG, if a company in the private sector handling other peoples money like that they would be in prison for extortion or embezzlement.

From: HA/KS
21-Mar-18
SS is definitely the largest pyramid scheme ever.

From: TGbow
21-Mar-18
Maybe my daughter's generation will turn things around after 100 yrs of Socialism maybe somebody will figure out it don't work. She is already a young Libertarian.

From: HDE
21-Mar-18
^^^ Indeed. When will that old, tired, worn out liberal state socialist generation die out and be nothing but a bad memory...?

From: Thumper
22-Mar-18

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I'm not the least bit worried about the new generation, they're in good hands......lol

From: zeke
22-Mar-18
But, but.. health care is a right and if I can't afford it you should pay for it for me. And Social Security is an entitlement it is not yours and anyway it is about to go broke. (sarcasm)

22-Mar-18
How long will be before we realize that single payer is the way to go. It will save this country billions upon billions of dollars. The insurance companies and big Pharma have been corrupt and have been exploiting people for decades.

Yes I’ve heard it so many times that healthcare shouldn’tisnt a right but rather an entitlement. I wish you knew how wrong you were. I would rather my tax dollars to be used for healthcare for someone then for another dozen nuclear bombs.

From: woodguy65
22-Mar-18
Is that poster or imposter?

From: Grey Ghost
22-Mar-18
Paul Z is actually registered under his real name, now. That's a milestone, and in a strange way, I'm proud of him.

Matt

From: Michael
22-Mar-18
For some strange reason I don’t think I will ever see all the money I have paid into SS.

Good news is it’s capped on how much they get.

From: HDE
22-Mar-18
GG - you sure it's a real name...?

From: Bentstick81
22-Mar-18
pi$$ on paul z. He is getting what he deserves.

From: gflight
22-Mar-18
Buckiller has left the building? Info Por Favor....

From: Bentstick81
22-Mar-18
Ol atheist is getting closer to 40 registrations. It hasn't made him any smarter, and the LIES will still be rolling in. 8^)

From: bigeasygator
22-Mar-18
Yeah, would be nice to know more details on the insurance provider and whether there were any changes to coverage as part of this change.

From: TGbow
22-Mar-18
Yea..socialized healthcare is such a great idea if you believe in fairy tales.

It is really working out well in other countries aint it.

From: Woods Walker
22-Mar-18
So he's NOT Abe Froman from Pennsylvania? You mean hesheit was LYING to us again/still? If hesheit was really serious about being honest hesheit would LEAVE the CF like hesheit PROMISED to do if Trump won, and Trump DID.

From: Woods Walker
25-Mar-18
"..........only to discover that this agent blatantly lied to us".

!!!! So Paul Zeiden is an insurance agent too?

From: Grey Ghost
25-Mar-18
Rob.

Thanks for clarifying. In the future, perhaps you should confirm your information before posting.

Matt

25-Mar-18
He came on, admitted he had messed up and was genuine about it. Then you have to be a cock on top of that? Come on man, don’t be THAT guy all the time.

From: Will
25-Mar-18
Buckkiller, sorry to hear! Ins salesmen sometimes seem worse than used car salesmen. Hope the new policy serves you well!

From: Woods Walker
25-Mar-18
Did you ever notice how Paul Zeiden lies his pathetic ass off every time he posts on here? And how he decided to make his sorry self "pure" by changing his fake registrations yet AGAIN last week when "Abe" and "Ryan" suddenly vanished and P Zeiden suddenly took over their beings.

Paul Zeiden: A pathetic liar I say!

From: Bentstick81
25-Mar-18
atheist. Give it up. You are DONE.

From: Woods Walker
26-Mar-18

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Paulabe, you very presence here is an insult as you are a self admitted, documented LIAR.

From: Bentstick81
26-Mar-18
atheist. "Trax, I'm going to do this without insulting you." In other words, you are going to try and blow smoke up his a$$, LIE, and make yourself look IGNORANT, AS USUAL. Give it up atheist. You are not SMART enough to get it done. PRICELESS!!! 8^)))

From: Woods Walker
26-Mar-18
"Trax, I'm going to do this without insulting you."

LOL! You're WAAAY past that point Paulabe! You've already insulted us with your 40 false identities and and the lie of your presence here. You are the master of insults. You make Don Rickles look like Mr. Rodgers.

From: lawdy
26-Mar-18
We have Canadian health insurance I buy for our stays in Newfy. We pay $400 per month. There is a 14% HST tax plus a 12% provincial tax. In addition, the supplement is $100 per month. Because I have that $400 insurance, I get in before anyone because my insurance pays more. You should see how crowded the clinics are because people go for every ache and pain. My fishing partner's wife had breast cancer. They allowed her two rounds of chemo and put her into hospice. Out of desperation, he drove her to Maine General. They tried to save her but to no avail. They told us that if she had come earlier, they could have helped her. Canadian healthcare is great for minor ailments, but if you need surgery or have a serious condition, head for the US. Also, it isn't free, unless you think paying 26% sales tax is free. I and my wife have medicare plus a supplement. We pay $600 per month in addition to what they take out of our paychecks. Nothing is free unless you are on welfare or have a government job where taxpayers foot the bill. Even then, you still pay with a lower salary.

26-Mar-18
I don’t see people in Switzerland or the Netherlands as slaves. Please show me how Canadians or the Brits are enslaved. Misery and poverty? They have no more or less than we do!

Here’s what I know. Those nations have a lower infant mortality rate. They have better elder care and generally better health than we do. More importantly, they spend LESS per person and perGDP on healthcare costs than we do. If you’re still a fiscal conservative, which is debatable these days, this has to be appealing.

Now let’s talk about your humanity. If you think good isn’t a human right, you need to abandon your religious beliefs. Now. Today. If you believe that people having basic shelter isn’t a human right, stop calling yourself a Christian as the god you believe in would most likely kick you out of that religion.

From: Bentstick81
26-Mar-18
Atheist. So you are not IDENTIFYING YOURSELF AS AN ATHEIST anymore??? You changed your handle, so glad to see you are finally seeing the light. God doesn't, and will not kick anyone out of GOD'S religion. For a wanna be atheist, you are dumber than a box of rocks. Thanks for another, PHONY LIE, atheist. 8^)

From: TGbow
26-Mar-18
The bible teaches voluntary charity.

There's no way to fund socialized healthcare without high taxation and even then it will collapse eventually.

Try as you may a square wheel will never function like a round wheel...some things just dont work well.

26-Mar-18
Canadian tax rates are slightly higher, for sure, however then the question becomes ; are you willing to pay a little more and never get a medical bill?

It’s an absolute certainty that at some point a medical catastrophe will affect you or a close family member. I would gladly pay a little more in taxes to ensure you would get your medical needs met and still keep your home. Gladly. But look at me being all human and stuff! Canada is flourishing, The Swiss and Norway, all doing well. There is no chance they will collapse due to their healthcare systems. That’s another American myth to scare people away from socialized medicine.

From: Bentstick81
26-Mar-18
Give it up atheist. You are done. 8^)))

From: gflight
26-Mar-18
More advanced healthcare and more personal disposable income in the U.S. than Canada. I will stay here and you can move....

From: MK111
26-Mar-18
IMHO if you guys would stop replying to the atheist posts he would just go away. The guy just likes to set you guys off and argue.

Try it.

From: Bentstick81
26-Mar-18
We have. 38 False registrations later, and he is still here. Besides, I like proving he is a LIAR. 8^)

From: gflight
26-Mar-18
This forum thrives on debate. While he is not the sharpest poster by far he is an opposing viewpoint.....

From: lawdy
26-Mar-18
Canadian tax rates are slightly higher? Atheist, I work there in the summer and my cd's sell up there, you don't know what you are talking about. Also, unless you pay for a supplement, BC/BS, you get a bill for what healthcare doesn't pay. Basically, it is a medicare system. We get billed for 20% if we have no supplement. I am not fond of universal healthcare, but if we have it, only funded with a sales tax. That way, everyone pays into it, and get rid of employer or taxpayer funded health insurance. Teachers, politicians, CEOs, everyone under a medicare type plan funded by a national sales tax. I just hope you don't mind waiting a few months for that knee replacement or cataract surgery. I live on the border. There is a reason why so many wealthy Canadians cross to visit our hospitals.

27-Mar-18
Nothing wrong w a different viewpoint. And notice I don’t cuss, insult, disparage, threaten anyone’s jobs or home life. Yet the holier than thou folks here (you know who you are). regularly do that and more. But I’m the bad guy? Pathetic.

From: Bentstick81
27-Mar-18
" And notice i don't cuss, insult, disparage, threaten anyone's jobs or home life." Ya, but you just LIED with that sentence. So, you are a LIAR. If you don't want to be called the names you are called, Quit being them, and we won't have to call you, what you are. You, The biggest LYING FRAUD, the CF has ever had, and you continue down that path. Don't worry, i will be right here naming you what you are. 8^)))

From: TGbow
27-Mar-18
P Zeiden, I disagree with you but I support your free speech...even if you are wrong..lol

Most Liberals are tolerant as long as you agree with them. I don't agree with all this going on with the kids marching for gun control...at all, but I support their right to voice their opinions. I just hate to see them misled.

As far as gov health care goes, we all know how well the gov handles Social Security.

27-Mar-18
Clay, there’s one thing in your last post that gave me a chuckle. “Most liberals are tolerant as long as you agree with them...”.

Just wondering if you’ve seen what happens here on the CF when you offer a different viewpoint. It’s not so tolerant. In fact, and I’ve said this a few too many times but it bears repeating, A few guys here actually stopped so low as to send hate mail to my home. They sent anonymous voicemails to my workplace and even stole my identity and ordered magazines in my name sent to my home. Would you call that tolerant? Asking for a friend of course.

From: Bentstick81
27-Mar-18
Another LIE from you atheist. You don't come on here with a different viewpoint, you come on here, tell LIES and stir the $hit. Once again, you are proving the LYING wuss that you are. Good Job! moron. 8^)))

From: Woods Walker
27-Mar-18

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From: Bentstick81
27-Mar-18
Clay. All i can tell you is that atheist just LIED out his a$$. "Hate mail to my house, anonymous voicemails to my workplace, stole my identity, etc... Atheist you are full of $hit.

From: TGbow
27-Mar-18
Paul, I have to agree with you on that one point. Tolerance simply means disagreeing but respecting the individuals stance...like I tolerate my inlaws..lol

Problem with a lot of Libs is the fact that they dont really want me to tolerate them but accept their beliefs...which I dont, though I would never want to silence a persons beliefs.

From: TGbow
27-Mar-18
Matter of fact I disagree with the Republicans a lot..because most of them have no backbone and they act like a bunch of scared puppies.

From: Woods Walker
27-Mar-18
LOL! Which of the 40 + identities was stolen? You can't make this sh&t up!

From: TGbow
27-Mar-18
Paul, I dont go along with anyone just to get along. All I can say is whoever is sending ugly emails whether it be someone on this site or you...dont matter who it is, they should stop.

27-Mar-18
I’m betting we agree on a few things, Clay. Thanks for the civil conversation.

From: Woods Walker
27-Mar-18

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First you lie your pathetic ass off to us here for years with 40+ different identities and numerous other frauds, and then you do a 180 on a promise you made here and you expect civility? You don't DESERVE civility OR any respect for whatever opinions you have. And THAT liar, is something you EARNED by your own behavior.

From: sleepyhunter
27-Mar-18
Civil conversation? Which personality is talking now Sybil?

From: Woods Walker
27-Mar-18
The one that talks from his a&&. That one never shuts up.

From: Bentstick81
28-Mar-18
That's it atheist. Don't be honest with the guy. As usual. It won't take him long to see how much you LIE on here. 8^)

From: Bowbender
28-Mar-18
For the intellectually dishonest, there are two acronyms that come to mind when thinking of single payer, ie, government healthcare.

SS and VA.

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