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My nephew has been part of an under cover unit in the Air Force. He is part of a unit that was in London for training in counter terrorism. Units from Europe and US were there. During this they had reports of a terror cell there and his unit went in to take them out. They succeeded but lost 2 our men in doing it. One was from Oklahoma. Something we won’t hear about I’m sure. Nephew said they were two great guys we lost.
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Outright bans on assault knives?
What is next for such a Liberal Country?
Sucks that people seem to think killing other people is a good idea. Ugh. England, Russia, US, Canada, Mexico, Germany, India, where ever... Why do people think that's a good idea? Frustrating.
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Of course you are correct here. Maybe you should edit your post on the gun control threads, where you advocate for stricter background checks.
If they, harsher background checks, won't work for knives, the won't work fur guns either.
New York City: There were 2,245 murders in NYC in 1992. In 2017, there were 290 murders in NYC.
London: There were 175 murders in London in 1992. In 2017, there were 130 murders in London.
Cognitive Dissonance: the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.
Supporting a political team often leads to this psychological issue...
So on the knife thing - I'd feel the same way. If I have to pass a background check, I pass one, no worries, now I can carry my knife.
Doesnt inhibit good people (for guns or knives), doesnt inhibit bad people (we all agree on that one) and makes the people who see a picture of a gun and duck because they are so freaked feel a little safer. Win win win, to quote the great business leader, Michael Scott ;).
End point - if people are crazy and stabbing people with knives in London - at a huge rate... And since background checks don't seem to stop criminals from doing bad things with guns, then they wouldnt stop crazy folks or criminals from doing bad things with kinves.
(Why do I like them then? Because I do believe that if they stop one person from getting a weapon that they shouldnt have, or help prevent one gun death or shooting, that the tiny bit of effort I have to go through to sustain my license to carry is worth it)
As the Nazi Party rose to power in Germany, it inherited a 1928 gun registration law that had replaced a total ban on gun ownership imposed on a defeated Germany after World War I. The 1928 law created a permit system to own and sell firearms and ammunition.
When they came to power, the Nazis used whatever gun records they had to seize weapons from their enemies.
What shootings would more stringent checks have prevented? Not this latest one..... if the authorities don't list infractions or charges no background checks will stop that, there is no background Other agencies will make them more stringent on those with no history of violence or crime, people who have done nothing wrong. Background checks at gun shows? None of the weapons have ever come from guns shows..... leftist paranoia. Black guns too scary?...... fine.... make em pink. You own "too many" guns, too large of magazines or "too much" ammo..... nope, can never have too many or too much..... it's not your's or anyone else's business anyway.
The point they all fail at...... there are already plenty of laws on the books right now..... they are either not being enforced or are totally ineffective WRT what they are intended for. More laws? Why? Because A: it makes people look and feel like they "care"...... or B: The whole aim is to incrementally make guns illegal to privately own.
What is your goal here? School shootings? That's easy, eliminate no gun zones, arm some staff at the school one way or the other. These shooters are cowards. They aren't attacking gun shows, police stations, gun shops, firing ranges. Almost exclusively NO GUN ZONES. The first defensive fire and they drop the weapons and run or turn them on themselves, it's been shown. Over and over.
The goal of these people is not to prevent further shootings, that is the very definition of a straw man. That's demonstrable as the leftists refuse to even consider the only thing that will be instantly effective.... arming for protection. Bottom line the only thing instantly effective is against their religion/ideology. Their aim is all guns, not safety, not mental health, not evil people. Guns bad. Take them all away. It's total BS that they only want "tougher laws" for safety. It's simply a matter of them taking the most incremental gun grabs they are allowed to get at the time. And now have stooped to using kids as props to push their agenda. The goal is pretty clear. And it is not the safety of children, they have proven they have no interest in that. It's the elimination of the 2nd amendment.
We have given enough, over and over. And it's proven in study after study that tighter regulations have FAILED, and failed everywhere they have been tried...... We as gun owners can't give any more ground, none.... because they clearly indicate they will not STOP TAKING IT. Never satisfied and have shown they never will be. They will not stop until guns themselves are illegal for private citizens to own.
Any gun owner who does give ground is living in some fantasy land. They are like anti-hunter orgs, opportunists taking all they can when they can. There are enough regulations and laws NOW. What is going on is a frantic push to "do something!" in an attempt to ease emotion, make folks feel like they are "doing something". And it will only do more harm to good people, will have no effect on the evil and mentally ill. We need more good people involved.... not less. And not some leftist moon bats deciding who is "good" and who is "bad" based on what guns they have and what the guns look like.
