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From: Pat Lefemine
11-Jun-18

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Amazing to watch live. Who could have done this other than president trump? Nobody.

From: JL
11-Jun-18
"If" this makes it thru this first meeting, I predict you will see an invite go out to Kim-Jong to visit the U.S. next.

From: bigswivle
11-Jun-18
Tried to watch CBS for a minute. I feel they're actively rooting for Kim

11-Jun-18
^^^ You know they are, along with a few others...

From: JTV
11-Jun-18
The dems/libs/FNM/MSM (one in the same) would rather see Trump fail than have to say good things about him ..

From: Chuckster
11-Jun-18
Been proudly watching. Flipped over to CNN and they had Clapper on, what a negative Nancy. Switched back to FOX.

From: Michael
11-Jun-18

Michael's embedded Photo
Michael's embedded Photo
Poor CNN

From: 'Ike'
11-Jun-18
Priceless!!!!

From: longbeard
11-Jun-18
I’m watching proudly with a smile on my face!

From: Shuteye
11-Jun-18
I have been watching all evening. Watching Fox but switched to MSNBC to see what they were saying. They were evidently watching something different from what I was seeing on fox. Not one good word about Trump. Switched back to Fox.

11-Jun-18

'Ike' (Phone)'s Link
Ohhhh, that’s going to leave a mark, on Communist News Network no less!!!

In an interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo that quickly became emotionally charged, Rodman, wearing a red "Make America Great Again" hat, blasted former President Barack Obama for not taking the North Korean leader seriously.

Five years ago, Rodman said, Kim told Rodman "certain things" to relay to Obama concerning potential negotiations, but the former president "didn't even give me the time of day -- he just brushed me off, but that didn't deter me."

Rodman, who admitted he was "naive" when he first visited the rogue regime, then started weeping and repeatedly dabbed away tears from his eyes as he recounted the blowback he received in the U.S. for visiting Kim.

From: JTV
12-Jun-18
What a great start ... there will be more meetings and hopefully on the way to a nuke free Korean pennensula ...

This makes Pelosi, Schumer, CNN/MSNBC and the PutZ's of the world look like the fools they are ... HISTORIC to say the least ...

From: scentman
12-Jun-18
Trump is like a machine, he just keeps on moving, cutting down old norms that have not worked in decades... ah the winds of change feel good don't they? MAGA God bless Mr. Trump... working!

From: Woods Walker
12-Jun-18

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Woods Walker's embedded Photo

From: Shuteye
12-Jun-18
The big surprise was when during the lunch Trump said, "we have to sign something." Then they went to a room with a table and two chairs. A guy came out with white gloves and put documents and pens in front of the chairs. Then Trump and Kim signed a denationalization agreement. BTW, Trump held a news conference and answered questions for a bunch of reporters. At this point he hadn't slept in 25 hours and looked more presidential than I have ever seen him.

From: Shuteye
12-Jun-18
I saw a video of Trump taking Kim out to see "The Beast". Kim looked impressed and had a huge smile on his face. A door on "The Beast" weighs 800 pounds.

12-Jun-18
If Kim Jong ever comes to the US we should whack him. That guy has to go....

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Truly historic and monumental indeed, thank you President Trump!

12-Jun-18

Your fav poster's Link
Reminder.

From: elkmtngear
12-Jun-18
Fortunately for Conservatives, all Obama ever did was talk a good game. Zero action.

I am loving the current POTUS, he is a man of action. Liberal media will have no choice, but to swallow the bitter pill.

From: Shuteye
12-Jun-18
If you notice the Lame Stream Media are bringing on all the "Experts" that worked on previous deals with North Korea. Why would you want advice from 40 years of failure? They didn't get anything done and are ticked off that Trump may succeed.

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Parasite Obama the America hating race pimp sold out to Iran with billions of dollars and other currency and then GAVE them a path to nuclear weapons. Obama the father and founder of ISIS, the father and founder of the worst foreign policy in the history of American presidents. President Trump met with North Korea WITH preconditions and with strength and leadership. We GAINED a denuclearized North Korea while keeping the sanctions on for now until more can be vetted and accomplished. The blind dumb sheep liberals are terrified! They have to desperately try to find a way to water this down! It is a beautiful thing to watch!!

From: JTV
12-Jun-18
It is so much fun watching the PutZ's of the FNM/MSM having meltdowns ... What Trump has done is a great start, somethink no other POTUS has been able to accomplish, the dems can kiss 2018/2020 goodbye ...

From: Grey Ghost
12-Jun-18
YFP,

I agree, that video clearly demonstrates how biased and two-faced our media can be.

Matt

From: K Cummings
12-Jun-18
” Fortunately for Conservatives, all Obama ever did was talk a good game. Zero action.”

Unfortunately, this couldn’t be further from the truth. If it was something he didn’t care about, he was all talk. If it was something he wanted done, he damn sure got it done...legally, illegally, constitutionally, or unconstitutionally.

KPC

From: BowSniper
12-Jun-18
You have to admit this summit meeting went far better than expected. Leaving with a signed agreement to head towards complete denuclearization... and Trump scaling back war games is a tremendous first step. No one else could have pulled this off and at this pace.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Jun-18

Grey Ghost's Link
I found Ben Shapiro's remarks this morning interesting.

"If you thought of the flag that was next to the American flag as a Nazi flag rather than a North Korean flag, everybody would see the concern,” he said. “This is slave state with 25 million prisoners and gulag system hundreds of thousands people wide… the president’s praise for the dictator of North Korea was disquieting.”

“The triumphalism that seems to be appearing in so many places this morning, where everybody is excited that President Trump met with Kim, that’s not justified by the outcome yet,” he said.

Shapiro also gave a harsh review to the document signed by Trump and Kim. “The piece of paper that got signed yesterday is frankly weak,” he said. “This is not a strong piece of paper.”

Matt

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
He states the obvious when he, Shapiro, said, "If what Trump says in that interview with Sean is exactly correct, then we’ll all be celebrating. " This is, no doubt, a long term work in progress. It will take years to actually remove and vet this weapons program. What is historic is the progress also obviously made towards that end. There are indeed agreements and they were accomplished at a rapid pace. Now the work begins. That does not take away in the least of this monumental accomplishment. The direction is positive for the USA, for Korea, for the world. We have President Trump to thank for all of it.

As far as the flags go we were at war with and defeated Nazi Germany. That is one dramatic difference. China and Russia also murdered millions of political prisoners and innocent citizens. We met with their leaders then and we meet with their leaders now with both flags prominently displayed. It is a courtesy and that is all. We know who and what North Korea has been. It takes a visionary and strong leader to see what they could become and help them mold that future for the betterment of the USA and for all.

From: jjs
12-Jun-18
When good news come along their is always someone that comes along to piss in the soup. Positive step forward with work in progress,MAGA.

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Blind dumb sheep liberals and their socialist masters are in a panic to water this historic progress down in any way they can jjs. Expect much more of it as Team Trump continues on with one success after another.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Jun-18
Have any of you actually read the agreement that was signed? Shapiro is correct, IMO, it is weak.

While I'm encouraged, I think it may be too early to celebrate. Similar to his father and grandfather, Kim hasn't exactly proven to be trust-worthy.

I'll be the first to praise Trump when there is actual results. So far it's been a nice dog and pony show, but not much else, IMO.

Flame away.....

Matt

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
This is tremendous progress in the right direction that no other president was able to accomplish. That is worth praising and celebrating. NOW the work BEGINS. The outcome will take years to achieve, and then the world can really celebrate.

From: scentman
12-Jun-18
reminder... that was BT... before Trump.

12-Jun-18
How "hostoric” is an agreement by North Korea to end its nuclear program and cease hostilities?

1985: North Korea signs Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty 1992: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program! (#1) 1994: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program! (#2) 1999: North Korea signs historic agreement to end missile tests 2000: North Korea signs historic agreement to reunify Korea! Nobel Peace Prize is awarded 2005: North Korea declares support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula 2005: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program and "denuclearize"! (#3) 2006: North Korea declares support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula 2006: North Korea again support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula 2007: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program! (#4) 2007: N&S Korea sign agreement on reunification 2010: North Korea commits to ending Korean War 2010: North Korea announces commitment to "denuclearize" 2010: North Korea again announces commitment to "denuclearize" 2011: North Korea announces plan to halt nuclear and missile tests 2012: North Korea announces halt to nuclear program 2015: North Korea offers to halt nuclear tests 2016: North Korea again announces support for "denuclearization”

From: BowSniper
12-Jun-18
How do you best get people out of a gulag? Nuke them and fry them away to freedom? No.

You threaten total annihilation, force a meeting, and sign a peaceful path forward. Trust but verify. There is no better first step, and little Kim's head looked like it was spinning the first time he stepped up to the big Kids table.

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Yep, blind dumb liberal sheep and their socialist masters are desperately trying to water this great and historic moment down the best they can. Paul Zeidan a poster sheep for the desperate and panic ridden! President Trump cruising to a 2nd term landslide!

How much money did Slick Willy pay the north Koreans? What kind of vetting did we pursue? President Trump has changed the rules, the USA are now determining the rules we play by, not foreign leaders. That's the difference between having a strong visionary like President Trump who works for we the people rather than having supremely weak and incompetents who work for the global cabal like we had with Slick Willy and OBOZO and to a slightly lesser extent HBush and WShrub.

From: Amoebus
12-Jun-18

Amoebus's embedded Photo
Amoebus's embedded Photo

Amoebus's Link
"Who could have done this other than president trump? Nobody."

Meet with a NK leader? Done in 1994. If that is all it takes for you guys to love carter, well so be it...

As Trax has pointed out in some of his posts (with the exception of this premature exclamation - "We GAINED a denuclearized North Korea") is all of this will take time - and, the RESULT at the end will determine if this is historically good or historically bad. There have been similar declarations between SK, NK and/or US dating to 1992 with a lot more details than this one that have failed because NK has failed to hold up its end of the promises in any of them.

The only thing ventured so far is that kim got his wish of being an equal to a US president ("honored" is what trump said). Then trump promised to stop military exercises (which surprised SK). It will be easy to start the exercises again if kim misbehaves. Harder to put that bromance back in the bottle.

I have said it on every thread that mentions NK, it would be great thing if this works. There are 25 million starving people that need rescuing, concentration/political camps that need to be closed and those pesky nukes that need to be destroyed. If that happens, then it truly will be historic.

For perspective, here is the declaration signed yesterday as it relates to nukes:

3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Here is the 1994 Agreed Framework (see link for full text of the agreement):

I. Both sides will cooperate to replace the DPRK's graphite-moderated reactors and related facilities with light-water reactor (LWR) power plants.

1. In accordance with the October 20, 1994 letter of assurance from the U.S. President, the U.S. will undertake to make arrangements for the provision to the DPRK of a LWR project with a total generating capacity of approximately 2,000 MW(e) by a target date of 2003.

a. The U.S. will organize under its leadership an international consortium to finance and supply the LWR project to be provided to the DPRK. The U.S., representing the international consortium, will serve as the principal point of contact with the DPRK for the LWR project.

b. The U.S., representing the consortium, will make best efforts to secure the conclusion of a supply contract with the DPRK within six months of the date of this Document for the provision of the LWR project. Contract talks will begin as soon as possible after the date of this Document.

....

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Slick Willy failed on near every count, and paid them billions. NK's nuclear weapons program was a mere shadow of what it is today at the same time. NK has now the delivery system to strike the USA with an EMP. NK should have been permanently dealt with long ago, numerous presidents had their chance and failed. That left a glaring mess for President Trump and he refused to kick the can down the road. What we celebrate today is this great progress, with no billions paid to them and sanctions still in place. Far different today than the situation in the 1970's, 80's, or 90's. Easy then, difficult now. We had lost leverage, President Trump has put us in a position of greater leverage than ever.

12-Jun-18
Trump got NOTHING. Literally nothing.

There is NO denuclearization, NO inspection regime.

All Kim did was sign a piece of paper reaffirming things he’s already said.

Trump GAVE UP military exercises to help our ALLY, South Korea and gave Kim legitimacy.

Where am I wrong?

From: 'Ike'
12-Jun-18
There they are!!! Lol!!!

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Where is Paul Zeidan wrong? As usual, absolutely everywhere no matter the issue.

We gave up nothing. As NK discontinued missile testing we discontinued for the time being pep rallies. South Korea has the 5th largest army in the world and we are the premier fighting force in the world. These pep rallies are primarily for show, and we if needed could hold them anywhere. We can also re-instate them right on North Korea's doorstep tomorrow. Once again, Paul Zeidan proves himself not only ignorant but a liar. Even he can not be that dumb.

From: AT Halley
12-Jun-18
Trump halted military exercises...by no means does that mean GAVE UP. If you think the US is packing up from SK and coming home you are an idiot.

12-Jun-18
I thought liberals did not like military exercises anyway, isn't it a good thing we gave them up? This is two victories for our President?

What does make me laugh though is Rodman now being treated differently by conservative press for being critical of Obama than how he was treated when he was going over there before these negotiations. Then or now, what the heck is anybody listening or even caring what his perspective is?

From: Grey Ghost
12-Jun-18
Chubby Rocket Man could wallpaper his mansion with similar past declarations that they didn't honor.

What makes you think this go-around is different?

Matt

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Well we just don't know now, do we Dude?

Let's see, the return of 3 hostages, the return of the remains of thousands of US soldiers which is in process, the discontinuation well before formal meeting between leaders of all NK missile testing, and oh yeah, the desire to not have a needle stuck in the back of his neck. President Trump gave the mighty Un a very simple ultimatum. Un, thus far, has chosen wisely.

From: TD
12-Jun-18
This is going to be a long drawn out process...... many steps. Some seem to think it should have been all wrapped up yesterday? For ANY journey or project, it begins with putting out a foot and taking that first step. That's what this was..... and the harping begins.... incredible. "Weak deal!" As compared to what? Good grief..... It's just the beginning of the beginning. You don't need your pom poms. But if you don't think this is at least a start, possibly the start to a good thing...... well, you're an idiot.....

It was a first step. Honestly I have hope, but also I know.... geez, everyone knows... who and what we are dealing with. IMO this has a chance were others failed because I believe there was an ultimatum given. Cheat and we will blockade harbors, even bomb facilities. We will take you and your nukes out if you don't stop. I feel this has a chance because Trump I believe will do it, where all others before him were clearly bluffing. Like Obama's "line in the sand". American politicians like Clinton believed they could be bought off. So they made "payment" before seeing action. Stupid Americans. Carter? Everyone knew Carter would do nothing if they cheated, so they cheated. Obama was a joke.

This is a start. It may be a good thing for peace.... or if not in good faith, it may be the beginning of the destruction of NK. Either way, something is going to happen IMO. And I believe Trump will act if they renege. Hugely. The can will not be just kicked farther down the road.

From: JTV
12-Jun-18
GG/PutZ, twos peas in a pod ..... both negative Nancy's ..... this was a start, and a good one... way more than what Obama accomplished.... the denuclearization wasnt going to happen with one meeting, this is the first step... Now Pompeo and Bolton get to earn their pay

From: JL
12-Jun-18
"" Trump got NOTHING. Literally nothing.

There is NO denuclearization, NO inspection regime.

All Kim did was sign a piece of paper reaffirming things he’s already said.

Trump GAVE UP military exercises to help our ALLY, South Korea and gave Kim legitimacy.

Where am I wrong? ""

I think that is a fair question as I've already heard it on the usual left-wing MSM news outlets. Prez Trump was up front about this first meeting and any other possible meetings. He conveyed that a while back when talk of a meeting first arose.....he is prepared to walk if NK didn't agree to the full de-nuke preconditions. He clearly stated numerous times it will take several meetings to iron out the details. Many realistic folks didn't expect everything to be completed in just one brief meeting. Trump had a clear goal in mind for this first meeting and to me it looks like it was met and some initial progress has been made for the next meeting(s) to build upon.....that's fair enough. One meeting at a time and see where it goes. If NK backs out or tries to move the goal posts, I expect Trump to add more sanctions and war games. BTW.....cx-ing the war games will save the taxpayers a few million.

From: elkmtngear
12-Jun-18
"What makes you think this go-around is different"?

Because, this time it was forced with unprecedented sanctions, that put the NK regime on the brink of starvation (reinforced with pressure on the Chinese as well).

I know it tastes bitter, but eventually, you'll have to swallow it.

From: Trax
12-Jun-18
Yes, it is a completely different environment and President Trump is in the process of making it work. There are a lot of moving pieces here and it will take much time to work out the logistics before we see an end game. There is no denying to get this far in so little time concerning one of the most pressing and important issues on the planet is a great accomplishment for President Trump benefitting the USA and all of humanity.

12-Jun-18
There are most likely provisions in the agreement that are not publized.

Just because you read it on FOX, CNN, or MSNBC doesnt mean its the whole story.

Most likely its a win for everyone.

From: bigeasygator
12-Jun-18
I for one wouldn't be surprised if they gave up their nuclear ambitions. They were unsustainable IMO. The annual GDP of North Korea (a country with a population of 25 mln people) is $12.38 bln USD. That's an annual per capita GDP of $500. For those that think this is new territory, we've been at this point before with NK with (yes, with different players involved). So far all we've seen is a photo op and a signed piece of paper. It's WAY too early to dub any of this a huge success or a huge failure.

From: 'Ike'
12-Jun-18
Pretty simple really...What ever President Trump does will be wrong and outlandish to the left and several on here!

Mid June, time to get camera's out and start taking a look to see what's out there with only a few draws left here in the West...Some of you guys should really try 'BowHunting' it's actually quite relaxing...Lol

From: slade
12-Jun-18
Imagine that a butt-hurt never-Trump closet democrat agreeing with a butt-hurt never-Trump wanna be.

From: Beendare
12-Jun-18
The liberal commentary is actually funny;

first they berate Trump for being a hard ass with NK....

Now they are saying he is too soft?

Oh they just WANT him to fail...but instead he keeps on ticking. This "Soft" agreement is a stepping stone to better world relations.....it seems the liberals don't really want that....they just want to blindly hate conservative politics.

Sorry, we have seen what liberal Dems got us for the last 8 years- racial division and stale socialist policy......some Dems still can't see that.

From: freeglee
12-Jun-18
I am no Trumpineesta but you all whos Downplaying this Event are Bitter Bas#@s10 !!!!!!!!!

I Will remain Positive!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Irishman
12-Jun-18
Your Favorite Poster's link pretty much sums up the state of politics in the US today, and the reason why I would never watch Fox News, unless I wanted a laugh. I bet that the people running Fox News are laughing at the fact that they can say all this nonsense and their viewers always eat it up.

From: elkmtngear
12-Jun-18
"I bet that the people running Fox News are laughing at the fact that they can say all this nonsense and their viewers always eat it up".

No, they are laughing at idiots like you, that can't let go of their Trump hate enough to celebrate the possibility of the end of North Korea's Nuclear capability.

12-Jun-18

'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo

From: JTV
12-Jun-18
something for the braindead #neverTrumpers/PutZ's and GG's of the site

"President Trump achieved a major diplomatic breakthrough Tuesday in his historic summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, dramatically improving America’s national security.

Most fundamentally, Kim agreed at the summit in Singapore to give up his nation’s nuclear capabilities, the acquisition of which has been its foremost priority for decades. To get to this point, President Trump conceded very little.

During the President Clinton-era negotiations with North Korea, the United States and our allies agreed to millions of dollars in food aid – easily converted to cash on the black market – and billions of dollars in so-called energy assistance that were a huge boon to Pyongyang. But the North kept its nuclear program.

During the administration of President George W. Bush, U.S. negotiators offered cash payments to North Korea just to get the nation back to the negotiating table. We relieved pressure from tough financial sanctions and sent other assistance. That didn’t work any better than President Clinton’s approach.

President Trump got to this point by ignoring all the establishment experts. This time, President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have insisted that North Korea undertake actual disarmament before real financial concessions or even sanctions relief. That, plus President Trump’s pressure campaign that involved working with allied militaries and governments around the world, proved to be decisive. This is proof that peace paradoxically comes from strength.

So far, President Trump – in close coordination with our allies in Japan and South Korea – has agreed merely to suspend occasional military exercises. He also agreed to provide a security assurance to North Korea in exchange for its nukes – part of what Pompeo has described all along as convincing North Korea that giving up its nuclear arsenal will actually make it safer.

While there is no mention of it yet, President Trump could theoretically reduce the number of U.S. troops in South Korea, currently numbering about 28,000. This would be a minor concession, since South Korea has a very capable military of its own, including a half-million troops in its army.

America would never going invade the Asian mainland with just 28,000 soldiers. The main purpose of the U.S. troops is to act as a “tripwire” to ensure North Korea understands that going to war against South Korea would again draw in the United States. The U.S. troops are best replaced by air and naval capabilities elsewhere in Asia that would help deter an expansionist China.

The critics of President Trump’s agreement are already flooding the airwaves.

One complaint is that President Trump conceded too much just by appearing with Kim Jong Un, suggesting it was a propaganda coup for the North Korean regime. These critics don’t understand North Korean propaganda, which has said for the 65 years since the end of the Korean War that the United States was poised to invade at any moment.

Pyongyang used these claims to justify North Korea’s large military, its nuclear weapons program, and its Stalinist dictatorship. The images of President Trump and Kim meeting on friendly terms undermine a key pillar of North Korea’s hostile identity.

Another complaint is that the outcome of the summit is too vague. But what was more important in Singapore was a meeting of the minds between the two leaders and their top aides – precisely what Trump got.

Delving into nuclear yields, missile throw-weights, spent fuel quantities, enrichment capabilities, fissile material stockpiles, level of detail for program disclosures and the like can now come after the leaders have gotten the overall concept and framework in place.

The one new detail President Trump did raise was a missile engine-testing facility. Kim readily agree to shut down the location.

Finally, some are saying President Trump didn’t do enough to press Kim on North Korea’s egregious violations of human rights, which range from running a huge gulag complex to concealing Japanese citizens it abducted in the past.

As the former deputy special envoy for North Korean human rights issues, I’m glad people are rediscovering this issue after the Obama years, during which few U.S. officials or liberal human rights activists cared. But President Trump’s first priority has to be the security of the United States. No one should expect the world’s most Stalinist regime to change overnight.

In fact, President Trump did raise North Korean human rights with Kim. So too has Vice President Mike Pence, who met with North Korean defectors and spotlighted the issue at the Winter Olympics and at other times.

These steps, along with the specter of future presidential pressure for a post-nuclear North Korea to engage economically with the world, amount to more than any administration has done for the beleaguered North Korean people.

Importantly, President Trump got to this point by ignoring all the establishment experts. All along, they said that the president’s use of pressure and blunt talk about the North Korean regime and its leader were dangerous. They criticized him for agreeing to meet, criticized him when he cancelled the summit, and now criticize him for conducting the meeting.

The critics also said that President Trump’s decisions to cancel the flawed Iran nuclear deal, terminate the phony Paris climate agreement, and refuse to be browbeaten on trade at the dying G-7 summit in Canada would all harm the prospects for diplomacy with Kim.

But in reality those steps achieved the opposite, conveying to North Korea that there is finally a U.S. president who will fight resolutely for American interests and not just go along to get along.

The path ahead will have twists and turns, but President Trump has set the stage for fundamental change in Asia."

Christian Whiton was a senior advisor in the Donald Trump and George W. Bush administrations

From: Bentstick81
12-Jun-18
y f IMposter "Where am i wrong?" Because you LIE all the time. You run from questions that PROVE the LYING PHONY that you are. Example: Do you think it's ILLEGAL for anyone to SNEAK into our Country????

From: Shuteye
12-Jun-18

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Shuteye's embedded Photo
Well Trump did browbeat the Canadian. His brow is falling off.

From: Bentstick81
12-Jun-18
LOL !!!

From: xtroutx
12-Jun-18
Absloutley amasing to watch the negativity from the msm today. Had to watch just to see how bad they could spin it. Unbelievable. I haven't watched msm since I watched them all cry when trump won. Now I know why. Keep on winning pres. Trump.

12-Jun-18
Trump on Kim: "A talented man who loves his country very much. An honor to meet him."

For the record of history, never before has a U.S. President spoken this way of a dictator accused of crimes against his own people.

And you say Obama was weak with foreign leaders?!?? Come on! Spin this one away!

From: JTV
12-Jun-18
speaking of the brain dead ^^^^ ... and just what did Obama do to get Un to the table ??..... NOTHING !!!!!!

From: freeglee
12-Jun-18
I for one Did Not see a Bow like we have seen Before!!!!!!!!!

Slow Down negative Nellys!!!!!!!!!

There might be something Good Here!!!!!!!

From: Bentstick81
12-Jun-18
Trump on y f IMposter: He is a LYING PHONY FRAUD that took an oath and yet still wants ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to SNEAK into our Country. Yep y f IMposter, Comparing you to Kim is a short step of being equal. 8^)

From: BowSniper
12-Jun-18
We also got no new missile or nuke tests since Trump leaned into Kim hard, touting his larger desk button. So far so good! They scale down their nukes to zero, we scale down our troops to zero. Sign a peace deal between North and South Korea and we are really getting somewhere. The bigger milestone is to see when Kim makes enough visible progress towards total denuclearization that we take him seriously enough to give economic aid for his starving people. Once they begin to benefit, this process becomes nearly unstoppable for true lasting peace.

Kim still has plenty of conventional artillery pointing at South Korea, and we still have plenty of equipment on Guam and Japan to keep the region straight.

From: trublucolo
12-Jun-18
"I'll be the first to praise Trump when there is actual results."

I'm calling bullshit on you GG on this one. Simply because you will continually move the goalposts on what you consider to be "actual results." Why don't you man up and post what you will consider a "result"? That way when you dodge and deflect down the road, we'll have it in writing.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Jun-18
trub,

To me, actual results will be verified denucleurization of NK. Not just shallow and non-specific declarations to "work towards" that goal, or meaningless commitments to on-going "negotiations", as stated in the agreement signed yesterday.

Is that specific enough for you? Feel free to hold me to it.

Matt

From: JTV
12-Jun-18
Bowsniper, when this is all said and done, a reminder to little Kim from Trump....... we can visit you any time, and it only takes 29 minutes or less ...if ya know what I mean ....

From: scentman
12-Jun-18
I'm sure that was mentioned... and China probably said... he classy foo, don't mess with heem.

From: Annony Mouse
12-Jun-18

From: Annony Mouse
12-Jun-18

White House Created Production Video to Assist Singapore Summit Talks With North Korea….

Details are surfacing of a video put together by the White House to assist in diplomacy messaging toward Kim Jong-un and the team of North Korea negotiators. According to reports, toward the end of the talks between President Trump and Kim Jong-un the video was shared in both Korean and English languages to the audience of both teams.

Brilliant messaging. WATCH:

The video was also shared with the international media audience prior to President Trump’s remarks at the press conference:

From: trublucolo
12-Jun-18
"actual results will be verified denucleurization of NK"

So basically unless Trump gets 100% of what no one else has accomplished, you'll still consider him a failure, lol - because that's the same high standard you've held your choice of elected officials to. Carry on GG, you're just a spit and polished version of Yfp.

From: Bentstick81
12-Jun-18
Maybe Trump should've drawn another line in the sand, like all democrats do. I mean, it's the most aggressive way the Democrats know. I bet kim would've been real cooperative. I agree Tru.

From: Woods Walker
12-Jun-18
"Where am I wrong?"

You gave your word that when Trump won you'd leave the CF forever. He did and you didn't. You're wrong for even BEING here, AND a lying sack if sh*t to boot.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Jun-18
"So basically unless Trump gets 100% of what no one else has accomplished, you'll still consider him a failure, lol "

Yes, that is worthy of laughing out loud, because that's not even remotely close what I've said.

I encourage you to re-read my posts. If you're too lazy, I'll give you the short version. We've seen these commitments to "work towards" peace and further "negotiate" denuking NK before, and they've lied. Until that changes, it's politics as usual, IMO.

Savvy?

Matt

From: Rhody
12-Jun-18
GG. Please define "....and they've lied." who they are. So. Something that has never happened before is "politics as usual". The significance of a meeting that has never happened before between a US president and North Korean dictator is not politics as usual.

Clearly your covert hostility for POTUS Trump is noted throughout these threads.

From: elkmtngear
12-Jun-18
GG et al...I'd love to see how y'all fawned over Obama, when he made that fabulous Iran deal...

From: Anony Mouse
12-Jun-18

From: Amoebus
13-Jun-18
NK is announcing that trump agreed to lift sanctions along with halting military exercises and provide 'security guarantees'. Not sure what that last one means.

It will be interesting to see what trump says to this. Either he said it, which makes him a not-so-master negotiator. Or, he didn't say it and is getting played by kim. The second option is why other US leaders/diplomats don't go into meetings without someone who can verify what you talked about.

13-Jun-18
If, and it is a big 'IF', NK does take immediate steps to dismantle their nuclear program, then suspending sanctions seems like a normal compromise IMO. Suspend being the key word.

Negotiations typically involve both sides giving some concessions, does it not?

From: Grey Ghost
13-Jun-18
Amoebus,

Yep. Both sides have a different take on what was said and agreed to, and the worthless document they signed doesn't clarify any of it.

But.....Kim got his 15 minutes of fame on the big stage, and Trump can tout his awesome deal-making prowess just in time for mid-terms.

Politics as usual.

Matt

From: Trax
13-Jun-18

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The blind dumb sheep liberals are in desperation trying to paint this great achievement as a negative or of little consequence. It's truly entertaining to watch them swim in their own waste. Had Parasite Obama the America hating race pimp accomplished this much they would have all been praising it 24/7 with orgasmic spasms. Of course in reality had OBOZO still been president nothing at all would have happened other than NK would have continued to expand its abilities. IF OBOZO had come to agreement with NK he would have paid them billions like Slick Willy did AND gave them a legitimate path to being a nuclear power. As he did in Iran. Again, it will take much time for real tangible achievement to be implemented. Logistically that's the simple fact. But I assure you, President Trump will quickly and definitively return to attacking Un and starving out his country (and possibly much more) if Un does not pursue Team Trump's demands. Un said John Bolton could not be in the room during any negotiation or meetings. John Bolton was in all of them. John Bolton said less than a year ago regime change was the best answer in NK, that is why. Bolton, Pompeo, General Kelly and active General Mattis are still preparing for that very thing. Un knows it. You can live, or you can die. The choice is still on the table.

13-Jun-18
Brilliant strategy by the President.

The video trailer, news conferences, pictures of both leaders smiling like old friends, and positive words from our President are all geared towards one thing; playing to Kim Jong Un's ego.

Instead of harsh words and adversarial comments, Trump used positive reinforcement to soften up NK's leader. This is just the first step up a long, steep, and sketchy road to peace. Only time will tell if this works, but how incredible would it be if did.

Imagine growing up and being taught that SK and the United States are your worst enemy. Changing hearts and minds takes time, patience, and the slow building of trust. Of course we can expect NK to paint a different picture of the talks. In their eyes our media is doing the same thing. This process will take several years, if it works at all, before the fruits of this meeting will be harvested.

From: BowSniper
13-Jun-18
-- ooops, duplicate --

From: BowSniper
13-Jun-18
The first Trump victory was to get NK to stop nuclear tests.

The second Trump victory was to get NK to stop the medium/long range missile tests.

The third (weak

From: BowSniper
13-Jun-18
The third (weak) Trump victory was getting Kim to destroy a nuke testing facility - but that hardly counts because it was damaged in previous tests and likely no longer useable anyhow. Though it still would appear to be a compromise in the view of NK people.

Let's see what happens next. We can cancel the August military drills and stop buzzing Kim with B1 bombers as a good faith gesture, while Kim at least starts to dismantle nukes and put something significant on the table.

If even one Nuke leaves that country and gets turned over / dismantled in a verifiable way, I think GG needs to concede Trump will have accomplished more thus far in North Korea than any prior president.

From: Pig Doc
13-Jun-18
GG posts "I'll be the first to praise Trump when there is actual results." LMAO

Have you praised Trump for the tax cuts? No.

Have you praised Trump for the record low black and Hispanic unemployment rates? No.

Have you praised Trump for overall unemployment at a 45 year low? No.

Have you praised Trump for the huge uptick in business investment and wages in the US? No.

I could go on and on. You've praised Trump for nothing. In fact you have poo-pooed or ignored every one of his long list of accomplishments.

13-Jun-18
He could be the greatest president of all time if he would just shut the f up.

From: elkmtngear
13-Jun-18
In the annals of History, his actions will supersede his rhetoric.

At this point, I could care less what he says, as long as America keeps winning.

From: Trax
13-Jun-18
People have never witnessed a president speaking with free will. Different world when Andrew Jackson was president, it simply wasn't really reported on and what was a snail could keep pace with. It is different, and people don't know how to deal with it. Bottom line it doesn't matter what we think. What matters is it's very effective. President Trump can not be controlled by Party or lobby. That's why so many insiders fear him. Totally refreshing.

From: bigeasygator
13-Jun-18
"In fact you have poo-pooed or ignored every one of his long list of accomplishments"

Probably has to do with the fact that you've listed a handful of accomplishments that Trump has had little to nothing to do with and would have likely been the result regardless of who is POTUS of this country. If you're going to give Trump credit for taking unemployment from 4.7% to 3.9%, are you going to give credit to Obama for taking it from 10% down to 4.7%? Same can be said if you look at trends of black unemployment, wages, investment, etc.

From: Grey Ghost
13-Jun-18
BEG,

Exactly, and thank you for expressing my thoughts better than I would have.

I've never been one to dole out praise to someone just because they side with my political beliefs. I think every president has had his merits and faults, some more than others. I've never truly hated or loved everything about any president, and probably never will.

Matt

From: BowSniper
13-Jun-18
GG - you may not love everything about any president. But is there ANYTHING at all that you love about this one?

From: Pig Doc
13-Jun-18
If you think HRC or Bernie would have added jobs and jump started the economy at the rate Trump has you are dumber than a post. But hey, I already knew that.

From: Grey Ghost
13-Jun-18
Bowsniper,

I love the fact that he's not Hillary. ;-)

Seriously though, for the sake of a forum discussion, I find it rather pointless to post just another "rah rah" comment every time Trump does something that I agree with. We get plenty of those posts already, and they usually don't lead to any meaningful conversation. Instead, I usually save my comments for when I have an opposing view to the consensus. I feel that civil, but contrarian, posts generally lead to more responses, sometimes they even lead to an interesting discussion on a rare occasion.

If that approach earns me the #NeverTrump label, so be it. I've been called worse.

Matt

13-Jun-18

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From: BowSniper
13-Jun-18
GG - if you would offer both positive and negative opinions on any particular subject, it tends to show an honesty that some feel is missing from your posting. Technically, the words in a post might be honest but the overall context can become dishonest as a whole by other deliberate/obvious omissions. YFP plays this game quite often, and look how unproductive that can be....

In the Steve Harvey debate, you commented on how informative and civil it was in general. Pretty honest, lots of pros/cons looking at both sides of a debate, and no YFP. :-)

Your Trump comments seem to be all negative all the time. CNN is really undermining their credibility in that same manner. Just sayin'

13-Jun-18
I’m a recent interview:

BAIER: Kim Jong Un is "clearly executing people."

TRUMP: "He's a tough guy. Hey, when you take over a country, tough country, tough people, and you take it over from your father ... if you could do that at 27-years old, I mean, that's 1 in 10,000 that could do that." (via FOX)

The president just basically dismissed a murdeous tyrant and congratulated him on American tv.

It’s as if the murder of American student Otto Warmbier never happened.

Who could have predicted that the heartless lunatic who allows migrant babies to be ripped from the arms of their mothers and the lunatic who allows his own people to die in forced labor camps would find common ground?

From: Bentstick81
13-Jun-18
Oh NO!!!! 8^)))

From: trublucolo
13-Jun-18
About what I expected GG, keep those goalposts mobile.

From: Solo
13-Jun-18
PZ, it's apparent that Trump is able to understand the machine already-in-motion the kid was handed off at age 27. I honor Trump for that insight. I get it.

In fact, it's likely there are elder stalwarts in NOKO that could be considering taking Kim out for his efforts to do the right thing. Heck, think about that, Paul. That's much like yourself admitting your identity after hiding behind multiple aliases on this forum....

Why would you, of all people, condemn the kid when he's making an effort to come clean? And worse yet, use Kim to condemn Trump & Kim in one hypocritical swipe. What a lousy goal to seek after.....

From: itshot
13-Jun-18
paulicia, your newfound critical eye on gov't is precious, luckily you've only got 6 1/2 more years to flail until an opportunity for an 'anything-but-trump' replacement comes along

From: JTV
13-Jun-18
I guess PutZ would be more comfortable if Trump would have had arrested fatboy... maybe a throw down and a ass beating .... even with your enemies, you can show a tad of civility, esp. if it leads to total denuclearization ..... the carrot is in front of the dogeater, now it is time to lead him to water .... PutZ, your a friggin' idiot ....

From: TD
13-Jun-18
Could be like Clinton...... help em out with nuke tech and equipment..... AND pay them well to do so......

Good grief..... stupid going downhill in overdrive.....

From: Bentstick81
13-Jun-18
y f IMposter. You forgot to say that you are all for ILLEGALS to enter our Country. The LUNATICS are the ILLEGAL PARENTS that sneaked into our Country with their ILLEGAL kids. Tell us how it's America's fault that the ILLEGAL PARENTS broke the LAW??? When you answer this, you will prove to be the LUNATIC. Hanging yourself again, i see. PRICELESS!!! 8^)))))

From: Grey Ghost
13-Jun-18
Bowsniper,

I get it. I just find it more interesting to be a contrarian than a cheerleader. Lord knows we have enough cheerleading around here.

That said, I value your opinion, and will take your criticisms to heart. Thanks.

Matt

13-Jun-18
Oh really, you feel that trump has a real understanding? Really? How about this for understanding:

Trump said, preposterously, that some parents of Korean War veterans came up to him during the 2016 campaign and said, "when you can, we'd love our son to be brought back home -- you know, the remains."

This is ludicrous! and possibly early dementia. How do you suppose he came to this conclusion? Is he making it up? lying? Can't wait to hear the justification on this one!

13-Jun-18
And just a few hours ago North Korean media is reporting that Trump agreed to lift sanctions on NK!

So now it appears he is lifting sanctions on Enemies who are nuclear threats,

Either KJU is lying or trump gave up the farm. Which is it?

From: JTV
13-Jun-18
some NK news outlet ?? ....... well PutZ, to an extent they are correct.... when the treaty is finalized, and agreed on by Congress (which your boy Obama never did with Iran), and all is done, then will all the sanctions be lifted.... thus the carrot in front of Rocketman .... total denuclearization, abide by the treaty (when done and finalized), and then NK can play in the sand box with the rest of the kids .... damn, your a figgin' ignorant fool .... and YOU are suppose to be a teacher ??? ROFLMAO at that one ..... what a PutZ you really are ....

From: Bentstick81
13-Jun-18
"Is he making it up? LYING? Well y f IMposter. You seem to think its just fine to make things up and LIE, all the time. So tell us, OH HONEST ONE, where is the JUSTIFICATION for you???? "You know, the remains." You are full of $hit and LYING out your a**. I listened to Trump on the radio, and i didn't here that at all. You LYING again. PRICELESS!!! 8^)))

14-Jun-18
Hahaha. Oh Jeffrey 1 and 2. You’re adorable. Admit that trump came away with nothing or continue to look foolish. NK News is reporting that KJU got the win here. Oh and then there’s this tidbit.

Yeah. But Obama, right?

14-Jun-18
And you forgot to include that the avg age of a Korean War vet is 87. So highly unlikely that trump spoke w a Korean War veterans parents. Trump lies so regularly that you’ve come to accept it without question. Maybe you shouldn’t.

From: Trax
14-Jun-18
Pauly Zeidan skipped class all day yesterday to watch the alphabet news channels in order to beef up his America hating rhetoric. Pauly was so deflated after President Trump's great achievement for America and the world initially, now he's all pumped up with new knowledge thanks to big Rach and Mornin Joe! Pauly the bedwetter is THE classic definition of BLIND DUMB SHEEP.

President Trump has not only his thumb but his boot on the neck of Un, that is very obvious. Truly refreshing to have a president working for the American people, for America and nobody else. Much work to be done no doubt, logistically it will take years to fully implement but it took a leader with strength and vision to get this far. In contrast, Parasite Obama the America hating race pimp led with his bung hole up in the air and threw billions at enemies GIVING them a path to legitimate nuclear weapon programs. And the likes of Pauly Zeidan thinks that's better! He has been overcome with his own ignorance, stupidity, and deceit. I love it when a stinking liberal goes down in flames!!

14-Jun-18
The boot on Un huh? Is that why NK News is saying trump will release all sanctions?

Is that why trump saluted a NK war criminal?

Is that why trump celebrated KJU and literally fawned over him like a 12 year old at a Justin Bieber concert?

Man, open your eyes. You’ve been hoodwinked. By a two bit conman. But I’m blind? Hahahaha.

You’re adorable.

From: JTV
14-Jun-18
Putz continues to prove there is no one on here that is more AntiAmerican than he is... also no one is more Stupid....I'd say ignorant, but ignorance can be fixed, Stupid can not ... He is STUPID ...

From: Grey Ghost
14-Jun-18
The bottom line is, committing to "working towards" denuking NK and further "negotiations" is a far cry from those things actually happening, if they ever do. As I've stated, we've seen these commitments from NK before.

This dog and pony show was surely a political win for Kim, since it legitimized him on a world stage. Trump....well, we all know how Trump and his cult will spin it, they already are. I'll reserve judgement until I see actual results.

Matt

From: Trax
14-Jun-18
As Stalin was legitimized? As Mao was legitimized? You can not come to an agreement with a nation unless you meet, and in todays world if you meet it will be covered. NK has the ability to blast an EMP over our air space. They have the ability to bury SK. This is a major problem, and instead of kicking the can down the road or sending them billions to further this development we have a leader who is finally doing something about it. No doubt, there is much work to be done and Pompeo and Bolton are leading that charge. Mattis is waiting in the wings and well prepared if he is called upon. Again, it will take serious time to see results. Logistically that is the reality. What we have right now is a path to get that done. In the meantime we can resume war games and INCREASE sanctions at a drop of the hat. We are on the right path, and we all await the results.

From: scentman
14-Jun-18
Your posts are provocative and pointless... the two youts have gone from trolls to sociopath stalkers... speaking of dog and pony.

From: Bentstick81
14-Jun-18
y f IMposter. Way to side step another reply about your OWN LYING. You seem to can't JUSTIFY YOUR OWN LYING, so you just side step the question. Maybe you should go play with YOUR GI Joe figures and let the REAL MEN speak. REAL MEN don't side step questions with LIES. I have lots of rope, clown. 8^)))

14-Jun-18
Ruined another one.......

From: Annony Mouse
14-Jun-18

15-Jun-18
Saved another one!

From: Dale Cover
15-Jun-18
Hilarious that yfp is quoting NK News outlets as to what was promised at the meeting. Seriously? WTF did you expect the state run news agency of a pissant dictatorship to report?

Simple truth in this whole deal - Either NK dismantles its nuclear ambitions, or the economic sanctions (and possibility of military action) stay in place and his country continues to stay in the dark ages. If you want to join the rest of the world with economic growth and prosperity, you have the chance. But you don't get to take forever to decide and to drag it out. With the video they produced, which I'm sure was re-iterated in private during the meetings, it was very clear that this has to happen NOW. NOW is when you have the chance to take this offer, it's not going to be given again.

You don't deal with a tyrant like Un without already making sure he knows that you have the upper hand, the "Bigger Button", the ability to crush him. Once he knows the playing field, and knows that you WILL fix the situation with or without him, it becomes a matter of survival for him, and his survival will also make him look like a savior to his country. His denuclearization is his only way to survive, and it was likely presented to him in that fashion.

The difference in Trump's way of doing things is he is telling them that he has to see results first, then we will loosen sanctions, not the other way around as has been agreed to by past presidents. You play from a position of strength, and you win.

From: Trax
15-Jun-18
I do not doubt the sanctions will come off in the foreseeable future, because we can cripple and verify that their nuclear ability is impotent in fairly short order. What will take much time is to actually remove and destroy these applications. I expect the sanctions to come off as soon as their ability to strike has been crippled and we've verified that. That won't take all that long. Remember, we can slap those sanctions right back on times 2 in a heartbeat. This path we are on is truly a great accomplishment. Thank you President Trump! The leftists and liberal media especially so are terrified of your and consequently America's success!

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