BBQ sauce/baste recipe?
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Contributors to this thread:
TD 15-Jan-10
addicted2elk 16-Jan-10
bowriter 16-Jan-10
bowriter 16-Jan-10
SERBIANSHARK 16-Jan-10
bowriter 17-Jan-10
bowriter 18-Jan-10
bowriter 19-Jan-10
Bushbow 19-Jan-10
bowriter 19-Jan-10
bowriter 19-Jan-10
TD 19-Jan-10
bowriter 20-Jan-10
From: TD
15-Jan-10
After a couple years of collecting the parts and materials I finally am 90% done with my new BBQ smoker. All stainless steel firebox, flue, oven, everything but the frame. (3rd different baffle design in the "oven" was the charm. Still playing a bit with rack height but I'm close.)

I've fired it up several times but actually cooked in it the first time last Sunday, an axis hindquarter roast. I really didn't have any recipes and simply rolled the roast (5-7 lb? in that range) in Montreal Steak seasoning. (A "rub"?) Cooked about an hour and 20 min with kiawe wood (mesquite). Along with a few sweet potatoes in butter wrapped in tin foil.

It came out awesome! A great success with the new toy, it cooked the larger meat even better than I thought. The sweet potatoes came out great too BTW.

Looking for something new to try on another axis or maybe elk roast this Sunday. (Steaks I still like the open kiawe grill. Those I have down... =D )

Looking forward to some ideas for a baste or mop!

From: addicted2elk
16-Jan-10
i use a mop sauce that is vinegar, salt, black pepper, red pepper flakes, a jalapeno diced (seeds and ribs included), and an onion cut into slices. you can eliminate the jalapeno if you don't want it quite as spicy.

hit the meat with the mop sauce about every 45 min or so.

From: bowriter
16-Jan-10
A sauce is a complment to the meat. It should not overpower the tastes of the meat. The sauce should be blended to accopmany the meat. I would never use the same sauce on whiteail that I would use on caribou or beef or pork.

I make my sauces. But the flavor comes from dry rubs. Some meats are inherently dry, others are juicy. You would never cook ribs and brisket the same way.

The secret is, practice. Just go cook and find somthing that suits you. Always remember, smoking is just a term. It is not a way of cooking. Anytime you put meat on a fire, you are smoking. The difference is the degree of smoke, the smoke wood and what you are trying to accomplish.

Do you want a smokey flavor or a BBQ flavor? They are not the same thing.

Man....just go char some meat. If you like it, what else matters. Unless you are in KC in the American Royal...who cares.

From: bowriter
16-Jan-10
Sorry-got a tad off track.

There are varieties of sauces. The most common are vinegar and molasses based. Now obviously one is tart and one is sweet. Major ingredients in both are mustard and brown sugar. I use a lot of Rotel tomaties with diced habnero peppers for my pork. I use no bastes on deer meat, it is always bacon wrapped if I am doing large cuts. On beef, especially beef ribs or a brisket, I make a special sauce to fit the cut.

Oh. the he11 with it. This aint a cooking show.

That's a joke, don't get pissed. I have 25 pounds on the grill, now. I better go check it.

Best piece of equipment you have ave is a quality meat thermomoeter. Take the meat off at 150-155 and let it stand for 20 minutes. Same with dead chicken.

From: SERBIANSHARK
16-Jan-10
Bowriter...For the love of God man...shut the hell up. I'm frickin starving here now!!!

I just licked the screen...it didn't work.

From: bowriter
17-Jan-10
LMAO Serb.

Served 25 tonight, smoked brisket, twice baked potatoes stuffed with seasoned crab, drunk chicken, nice salad with vinagrette dressing and a few other goodies.

Came out rather well. At least there wasn't much left. Now if I could just learn to bake. Good thing my sous chef is an expert at it. Her pies are just killer.

From: bowriter
18-Jan-10
LOL-my sous chef, who is also my best friend and workout partner is a master at baking. She makes a cinnanmon roll that will cause you to start a riot. My wife told her tonight if she made any more and gave them to me she would kill her. My wife can't leave them alone. I will eat a bite or two at a time, my wife,who weighs 110 pounds, will eat half of them standing at the counter.

Couple days ago, Jeanne came home (that's my wife) and Donna and I were cuddled in my huge chair watching The Straight Story-fantastic movie. Jeanne said, "I don't care what you do with my husband but there better not be any cinnamon rolls downstairs.

I should mention, Donna is also my wife's close friend and she is fighting breast cancer. We kinda bolster each other up. No hanky and very little panky.

From: bowriter
19-Jan-10
Mule- try this: If you have some good walleye fillets, chopped red onions, chopped green onions about equal amounts, chopped green bell pepper and chopped celery, leaves and all-just about a cup of each. Garlic to taste and of course salt and pepper with a dash of Tony Chachere. Chopped fresh basil, some oregano and some chopped parsely. Sautee all that in a little evoo and some unslated butter. When it gets happy...

add a couple finely diced Roma tomatoes. Now lay your fillets on top and add one cup of white wine and cover the skillet. Cook for about five minutes and uncover the skillet. Cook for another minute or so.

Serve the veggies over rice with a nicely grilled asparagus or with butter'parsley new potato and broccoli with a tart hollandaise sauce. I have turned the calssic hollandaise into a tart bernaise served with a few pearl onions for appearance. I prefer the hollandaise.

Warning: You do this right, you may never fry a fish again.

Warning: the best fish I have ever found to do this dish is Talapia. Second best is bream (bluegill) but we catch them up to two pounds down here.

Warning: don't try this with flounder. You'll leave home and start banging your head on trees.

Warning: substitute butterflied pork for the fish and serve over pasta. Your tongue will slap your brains out.

From: Bushbow
19-Jan-10

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Post Pics of your Cooker you built. here is mine that I built a couple years ago

From: bowriter
19-Jan-10
Mine is out on loan. I did not build the cooker I have now. The one I was referring to was one I built 35 years ago from an old refrigertor. The one I use now was built by a guy who just makes them for a hobby. However he charges more than "hobby" price. I'll be using it in a few few weeks. I'll try to remember to post a pic. Similar to your but a tad bigger with an electric rotisserie.

From: bowriter
19-Jan-10

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Thought you might be able to see mine in tha background but I guess not.

From: TD
19-Jan-10
I'll post some pics on the other thread when I get some.

Nothing like these though! Wow. Mine's just a backyard family thing. You could do a whole animal in those! (My store rents an open cage type 6' rotisserie that will take up to 200 lbs. a 5' spit type and a couple 3' spits that take up to 90lbs. Couple 5' open grills and a 4' propane grill.)

My daughter brought over some teriyaki sauce and I injected and marinated another 7 or 8 lb axis deer roast with it. Took some garlic, chives from the garden and some olive oil in the blender and basted it every 10 or 15 minutes.

Bowriter, I took your suggestion and used a meat thermometer (I must be slow, my wife said "well, duh...") Took it out at about 145+ and let it sit for 15-20 minutes before I cut it up for dinner. Came out awesome again. I'm having fun with this. Did some more sweet potatoes in tin foil with the roast and used the garlic/olive oil inside the foil and turned the "packets" ever now and then. Another big hit.

I've learned to wait until I get a really hot fire in the forebox going before putting anything in the oven. When the fire is going so well it almost quits visibly smoking it's prefect. A much more subtle "smoke" flavor and overall just cooks better. Like I said, I must be slow. At least my wife didn't say "well, duh..." on that one.

I'm really liking this type of cooking for the wild game. This weekend I'm going to try a couple of the things above.

From: bowriter
20-Jan-10
Learning to control the fire heat is one of the keys. I am getting a tad long in the tooth and am not in the best of health. I think I may have sold both my rigs tonight.

I'll still have two here at the house. I just love to play with fire.

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