Snooring
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deserthunter 17-Nov-17
Bou'bound 17-Nov-17
GhostBird 17-Nov-17
deserthunter 17-Nov-17
drycreek 17-Nov-17
Ursman 17-Nov-17
stick'n string 17-Nov-17
GotBowAz 17-Nov-17
yooper89 17-Nov-17
cnelk 17-Nov-17
midwest 17-Nov-17
mfg bowyer 17-Nov-17
milnrick 17-Nov-17
MNRazorhead 17-Nov-17
BOX CALL 17-Nov-17
Dwitt2n 17-Nov-17
painless 17-Nov-17
GAFFER1 17-Nov-17
Candor 17-Nov-17
mfg bowyer 17-Nov-17
kellyharris 17-Nov-17
Buffalo1 17-Nov-17
Joey Ward 17-Nov-17
drycreek 17-Nov-17
Franklin 17-Nov-17
Woods Walker 17-Nov-17
KsRancher 17-Nov-17
carcus 17-Nov-17
t-roy 18-Nov-17
Ucsdryder 18-Nov-17
Jaquomo 18-Nov-17
BTM 18-Nov-17
stick n string 18-Nov-17
cubdrvr 18-Nov-17
deerhunter72 18-Nov-17
Buffalo1 18-Nov-17
Pig Doc 18-Nov-17
cnelk 18-Nov-17
IdyllwildArcher 18-Nov-17
mfg bowyer 18-Nov-17
Rut Nut 19-Nov-17
t-roy 19-Nov-17
nchunter 19-Nov-17
Arrowhead 19-Nov-17
TurboT 19-Nov-17
Rut Nut 19-Nov-17
jjs 19-Nov-17
stagetek 19-Nov-17
TurboT 19-Nov-17
Rut Nut 20-Nov-17
eddie c 20-Nov-17
Candor 20-Nov-17
BK 21-Nov-17
BOX CALL 21-Nov-17
bowthwacker 22-Nov-17
elkmtngear 22-Nov-17
bowthwacker 22-Nov-17
lawdy 23-Nov-17
XMan 24-Nov-17
Bowriter 24-Nov-17
deserthunter 24-Nov-17
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From: deserthunter
17-Nov-17
Ok we talk about everything else on Bowsite so how about snoring. The older I get the worse I am snoring. Getting tired of the kidney punches from my bride in the middle of the night. What have you tried to stop snoring ? What worked and what didn't ?

From: Bou'bound
17-Nov-17
lose weight

From: GhostBird
17-Nov-17
stop drinking

From: deserthunter
17-Nov-17
Not over weight. 6 ft 190 lbs for the last 15 years or so. Title should read Snoring

From: drycreek
17-Nov-17
C-pap machine if you have apnea, and if you don’t sleep well, go to a sleep clinic and spend the night. You can thank me later.

I take cash, but good bourbon will do :-)

From: Ursman
17-Nov-17
According to my pulmonologist, snoring can lead to other more serious medical conditions. Check it out!

17-Nov-17
I have the same issue. If I drink any alcohol at all before bed I snore like a freight train. Could stand to lose a few pounds, per the MRS., but I am far from overweight. I sleep fine and feel rested in the morning, so I don't know whether it is apnea. Starting to think it is just part of getting older?

From: GotBowAz
17-Nov-17
Im exactly like stick and string. My wife has a sound machine that runs all night, sounds like the ocean waves hitting the beach. It does a pretty good job of drowning my snoring out for her. But every now and then I still get and elbow to the ribs. It has been discussed that I move into one of the empty bedrooms. :-/ . Probably have sleep apnea but I sleep great and feel rested. Then again I average 6 hours of sleep and have since I was a kid, hhhmm.

From: yooper89
17-Nov-17
Losing weight and cutting back on drinking are definitely the best suggestions. I used to snore so bad some nights my punching bag would swell up and choke me. I've got a 7 month old boy at home so the drinking has gone down, and I've focused on a little more exercise this past year and it's worked out tremendously. My girlfriend no longer has a right to swat me in my sleep anymore!

From: cnelk
17-Nov-17
Download the APP RelaxMelodies. Select a soothing sound from a wide assortment. Its amazing how background noise will help your [and wifey's] sleep

From: midwest
17-Nov-17
cnelk told me I snored so I stayed up all night to see and I never snored once. He's a liar!

From: mfg bowyer
17-Nov-17
Lost a good friend couple years ago to sleep apnea, if you do any type of snoring get tested as you well be GREATLY surprised how much better you sleep if you use a C-Pape machine. I have used one for the last 17+ years & back in 91 I also had the operation for snoring & after a couple years was right back at it. C-Pape id a life saver.

From: milnrick
17-Nov-17
Have your primary care provider set up a sleep study. To rule out sleep apnea. If you do they'll recommend a CPAP as others have mentioned, if you don't they'll probably recommend some sort of prostheses to keep your airway open at night.

From: MNRazorhead
17-Nov-17
Try to change your sleep habits to sleep on your stomach. But listen to the above comments about sleep apnea. It can do some very serious harm to your body and potentially shorten your lifespan if left untreated. One of my brothers has a serious cardiac condition from just letting it go. Not something to dismiss at all.

From: BOX CALL
17-Nov-17
Wife left,now no snoring problem,lol

From: Dwitt2n
17-Nov-17
Get your doc to order a sleep study. The snoring may or may not be an indicator of sleep apnea, but why not invest 8 ours in the sleep study to be sure. I'm 63 and a runner (ok - a jogger) non smoker & not overweight. A year ago I saw a neurologist for a nerve issue in my leg following a car accident - and the first thing she asked me if I was a tired as I looked. She ordered the study and when I took it, the tech said I had 57 incidents where I stopped breathing over the course of an hour. Never knew. I've been on the CPAP ever since and am convinced that neurologist saved my life. ....Safe hunts...... Dave......

From: painless
17-Nov-17
Someone above mentioned loosing weight. Being over weight can be one of the biggest contributors to snoring and obstructive sleep apnea. If your neck circumference is 17" or greater you're very likely to snore or have obstructive sleep apnea. Snoring will usually, in time, turn into apnea. As was also mentioned above, the best thing to do is get a sleep study. If you are not apnic or have mild (AHI of up to 15) to moderate (AHI 16-30) apnea an oral appliance may work well for you. Any dentist who incorporates sleep/airway dentistry into their practice should be able to help you. Severe sleep apnea, you need a CPAP.

From: GAFFER1
17-Nov-17
I was snoring about 10 years ago, went to the Dr. Got a shot of some stuff in the back of my mouth/top of the throat, like a chemical burn, it tightened the loos tissue that was causing the snoring - now only snore if I have a cold. It was call a snorplasti, and cost a couple hundred bucks because insurance did not cover it. I did have a sleep test to rule out more serious stuff first.

From: Candor
17-Nov-17
one of the easiest things to do is have your wife sew a pocket in the middle of the back of a t-shirt. Put a tennis ball in it. Stay on your side at night and your snoring will be less if not gone.

If I stay on my side my apnea and snoring is a fair amount less.

I am 6'1", was 215 with very low body fat. Snored and had apnea very bad. Dropped back to 190 (about the same fat but less muscle on my neck and across my whole body). Still have apnea. Oral appliance worked great for me for years but then my jaw started hurting.

I just started on CPAP. I hate it. I swear the reason they reduce apnea is because you don't sleep with it on. In all seriousness I know I will get used to it.

One thing you might have your wife do is check you out when you snore and see if you are generally on your back and if your mouth is open. If so you might try sleeping on your side and or get a chin strap to keep your mouth shut.

From: mfg bowyer
17-Nov-17
I always slept on my side & have has several sleep tests & I have had from 54 to 59 per hour where stopped breathing. & when I mentioned above losing a friend from it he was only 48 when he died from apena.

From: kellyharris
17-Nov-17
I? use to drink like a fish quit a few months ago and still snore my ass off!

Dr. Said it’s do to the shape of my upper roof of my mouth.

He suggested surgery removing my uvula, adenoids, and tonsils.

I walked out when he said remove the uvula

From: Buffalo1
17-Nov-17
Kelly, do you have a gynecologist ?

From: Joey Ward
17-Nov-17
My cardiologist said I had acute angina.

I told her that I’d like to see hers before I offer up an opinion.

From: drycreek
17-Nov-17
Ok, this thread has now degenerated to the point that it's becoming entertaining. Nothing like the manscaping thread a few years ago, but, entertaining nonetheless. :-)

From: Franklin
17-Nov-17
If you to a Dr. for a hangnail they want to do a sleep test...I understand the "no sleep can lead to" argument but come on. If you lay on your back and breath through your mouth you WILL snore. It starts with what do you breath out of...your nose or your mouth. Try some OTC fixes first before jumping all in....sometimes a simple mouthguard can solve the issue.

From: Woods Walker
17-Nov-17
Three guys were at deer camp. They had to bunk two to a room.

No one wanted to room with Steve because he snored so badly. They decided it wasn't fair to make one of them stay with him the whole time, so they voted to take turns.

The first night, John slept in Steve's room and came to breakfast the next morning with his hair a mess and his eyes all bloodshot. The rest of the guys said, "Man, what happened to you?"

He said, "Steve snored so loudly, I just sat up and watched him all night."

The next night it was Garry's turn. In the morning, same thing--hair all standing up, eyes all blood-shot. Once again they asked, "Man, what happened to you? You look awful!" He said, "Man, that Steve shakes the roof. I couldn't sleep a wink. I just watched him all night."

The third night was Herb's turn. Herb was a big burly guy who loved to fish and hunt -- a man's man. The next morning he came to breakfast bright eyed and bushy tailed. "Good morning," he said.

The guys couldn't believe it! They said, "Man, what happened?"

He said, "Well, we got ready for bed. I went and tucked Steve into bed and kissed him good night. He sat up and watched me all night long."

From: KsRancher
17-Nov-17
I don't snore much at home. Wife wakes me up maybe once a month and tells me to roll over. But elk hunting, sleeping at 10'000 ft is a different story. Dad and i sleep in our own tents 15ft apart. And we wake each other up all night snoring. And even wake our own selves up, cause of snoring so bad

From: carcus
17-Nov-17
Im fat and i drink but no snoring here! Lol

From: t-roy
18-Nov-17
Had the tonsils, adenoids and, yes, my uvula removed, along with a deviated septum fixed. Worked great for me.

Way better option than dying too young.

From: Ucsdryder
18-Nov-17
Troy, you got a purty mouf...

From: Jaquomo
18-Nov-17
I use the ZQuiet mouthguard and it works great. My wife said it totally stopped my snoring, which was like a freight train due to sinus problems. Took a few nights to get used to it but now I don't even notice it. It also stopped my nighttime teeth grinding which I never knew I did until a dentist told me a few years ago.

From: BTM
18-Nov-17
Candor (and possibly others): If you've wondered why the problems persist even after using CPAP, find out from your doc and/or therapist if you have obstructive vs. central sleep apnea. My original doctor said my apnea was severe and "perfectly normal for a 500# man." Trouble is, I'm 6'-3" and 180#! It wasn't until years later that I learned I had central sleep apnea, which is caused by faulty brain signals--not obesity and/or loose tissue in the throat--so CPAP was of minimal benefit. I now sleep on my side, which seems to help.

That's the extent of my medical knowledge (bloviating?), so take it for what it cost you (i.e., nothing) and discuss it with your sleep doc.

18-Nov-17
Good one, WW. Thats funny

From: cubdrvr
18-Nov-17
I sleep in a hammock in the basement. Wife’s snoring doesn’t bother me a bit.

From: deerhunter72
18-Nov-17
As others have mentioned, see a dentist about getting fitted for a mouthguard. It has a specific scientific name but I forget what it's called, but what it does is push the tongue and lower jaw forward which opens up the airway. My hunting buddy used to snore so bad on hunting trips that it was almost not worth going. The last several years he hasn't snored one bit during the night with that thing in. Now if I can just get him to use it for naps too...

From: Buffalo1
18-Nov-17
Sleep apnea is a serious matter. Just recently I have a friend whose brother quit breathing for 20 in his sleep- result in the end was unconscious followed by death.

From: Pig Doc
18-Nov-17
Losing weight and quitting drinking worked for me. My wife recorded me snoring, stopping breathing for a minute or so and yelling in my sleep. Scared me into somemajor life changes.

From: cnelk
18-Nov-17
I had a terrible snoring problem for 21 years. Then she changed her name to 'Plaintiff' and my snoring problem moved out.

Expensive, but well worth it

18-Nov-17
See a pulmonologist and an ENT specialist. They'll tell you exactly what's going on and what your options are.

From: mfg bowyer
18-Nov-17
Back in "91" I had the uvula, adenoids, deviated septum surgery & it worked great for about 3 to 4 years & then right back to BAD snoring. Boy it wasn't worth the sore throat that I had for 4 days & ended up dehydrated & had to go back to the hospital for 3 bags of fluid. The C-PAP is the best way to go, as I would NEVER go through the throat surgery again.

From: Rut Nut
19-Nov-17
About 8 years ago I was in great shape, did not drink much(avg <1 drink per week) not a Smoker and at the urging of wife and family I went to an ENT specialist who recommended a sleep study. I was skeptical thinking they over prescribe just as with medications. But my study came back significant obstructive sleep apnea. I was still a little skeptical, until I started using the C-pap! What a difference! I nev r realized how fatigued I was! Now my concentration is better, i’m Not moody or grouchy and I am a “believer”!

Do yourself and family a favor and get the sleep study!

From: t-roy
19-Nov-17
Amen Rut Nut. Sleep apnea is no minor affliction, and, if unchecked, can cause major health issues and death.

mfg bowyer..... I never could get used to the cpap. It was like wrestling an octopus. Took quite awhile to recover from the surgery, but was well worth it to me. I still sometimes snore, but infinity less than before, plus most of that is due to being overweight.

From: nchunter
19-Nov-17
My brother snores so bad at the hunting cabin that I actually built me a soundproof coffin like room in the attic. I put a small vent fan on the side and I sleep like a baby now. I snored like mad when I was 21 years old and skinny as a rail. Now I am 61, 20 pounds overweight and barely snore unless I am unbelievably tired. Beats me hy it went away.

From: Arrowhead
19-Nov-17
Ear plugs.

From: TurboT
19-Nov-17
I treat people daily for snoring and many other sleep deficiencies including apnea. Snoring is about a 60% indicator that you're not getting enough oxygen. Lots of good advice on this thread and also some horrible advice. CPAP is considered successful in 40% of the cases 40% of the time. I can't imagine a worse treatment than hooking up to a loud and cumbersome appliance. It is my experience that outdoorsman will not be happy with CPAP as it requires some sort of power all night. Of course, if you have a trailer and battery or generator than it is an option.

Surgery is of course not fun but can be a great fix. I personally had my tonsils and adenoids removed along with correcting a deviated septum in my mid 30's. Sucked, but would do it again for the gains.

A Micro2 dental appliance is the best oral option. Not all oral appliances are created equal. They are a big investment but the design is FAR better than all the others. IF your dentist isn't familiar with Micro2 ask them to learn about them or find someone who is.

Many times a take home test is sufficient, but the gold standard is a stay over at your local sleep clinic

From: Rut Nut
19-Nov-17

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Turbo- I just got a new machine this year. Much smaller and quieter than the original. And I went from a full mask to a nasal pillow that goes under the nose- what an improvement! Never thought I could use the nasal pillow or mask because of being such a mouth breather. But I tried it and worked like a charm the first night. I was amazed.

From: jjs
19-Nov-17
It was a bad time in the shack this fall, my brother was along and sounds like a freight train and when he hit the high point the other mate would let out a fart and his 9wk old pup that he brought along would start up yelping and throw in the prostrate pissing problem on top of it there was very little quality of sleep; would have moved outside but with the wet snow and 10 above decided to endure and nap in the woods during the day. C-pac would have have worked but no electricity. Had a guy in boot camp that was very loud, the night watch responsibility was to poke him with the night stick when he started up or nobody would have gotten any sleep.

From: stagetek
19-Nov-17
You probably have sleep apnea. Get the test done, buy a c-pap machine. I've been using mine since '08. Sleep great. No snoring. Still alive !

From: TurboT
19-Nov-17
Rut nut, Glad you found something that helps. Ultimately that is the goal!! It just makes me laugh everytime I see one of those pics. It is the sleep partner that generally complains before treatment and then the person wearing the machine during treatment with the air leaks and ill fitting mask, etc. Nothings says sexy time like some headgear and tubes. LOL.

From: Rut Nut
20-Nov-17
Turbo- it was actually the other way around for me! I struggled with the first mask I used for years. I would take it off during the night(not realizing it) because it was so uncomfortable- was lucky to get 3-4 hrs and would use every excuse in the book NOT to wear it. It was the wife that kept prodding me to keep up with it. Since finding the nasal pillow, I am averaging 6-7 hrs and have not missed a day except for one night with a chest cold where I could just not breath thru my nose due to congestion. Wife couldn't be happier now and shows her appreciation, if you know what I mean! ;-)

From: eddie c
20-Nov-17
my Dad apologized to my brother and I recently for passing the SA gene to us. he said he believes his father had it also after learning the signs. I remember my grandfather being a small frame thin man. this leads me to believe that while being overweight is a contributing factor it's not the only factor in SA. get checked out.

From: Candor
20-Nov-17
Thank you BTM. That is a great tip. I will ask my doc to clarify as I was unaware of the distinction of central vs. obstructive apnea.

From: BK
21-Nov-17
Woods Walker-----I'm still laughing

From: BOX CALL
21-Nov-17
You ain't snoring till you pull fire watch in a barracks at three in the morning.lol

From: bowthwacker
22-Nov-17
I only snore when I put on a few extra pounds. When I do, I use the Breath Right nose strips and the keeps my wife from punching me all night.

From: elkmtngear
22-Nov-17
I only snore when I've run myself ragged and I'm completely exhausted (eg: when I'm elk hunting).

I look at it like a bonus...it keeps the bears away from my tent !

Best of Luck, Jeff

From: bowthwacker
22-Nov-17
I only snore when I put on a few extra pounds. When I do, I use the Breath Right nose strips and the keeps my wife from punching me all night.

From: lawdy
23-Nov-17
I ran distance until my knees stopped me 5 years ago. I have very low blood pressure and my heart rate drops to 40-45 when I sleep. I sleep through thunderstorms and not even a bomb blast would wake me up. My problem is that if I take a stand in the woods, I doze off easily. I have woken up well after dark many times. Did it last evening sitting in my Waldrop while it was snowing.

From: XMan
24-Nov-17
Breath Right strips work really well for me. My snoring has just about stopped according to my wife and hunting buddies who had to endure it for years.

From: Bowriter
24-Nov-17
Hard to believe you got this many replies. Did not read any of the posts. However, I do have the definitive answer. It is safe and 100% effective and foolproof. You ready???

Separate bedrooms. You and favorite dog in one, wife-woman in another. You and she, both retain visiting rights, but sleep in separate bedrooms. If you are troubled by sleeping in stand, you have no business hunting, if it bores you that much.

From: deserthunter
24-Nov-17
Bowriter that's not going to happen. My wife likes to cuddle as she goes to sleep. And I rather enjoy it myself.

From: TrapperKayak
24-Nov-17
Seperate bedrooms for 7 yrs now. Maybe more, been so long I can't remember. Now she says she can hear me through the walls and there is a bathroom between the two rooms. Drinking makes it worse. She hates drinking. She hates the bed moving when I move. She's the Princess and the Pea. You'll get used to it. Or end up divorced if you keep snoring..

From: Bowriter
24-Nov-17
Buy her a dog, too. Or better yet, help her find a boyfriend that is super rich and move him in with you. Or, just bite the bullet and until you are of sufficient age to enjoy separate bedrooms. I wish snoring was my only problem. My wife's boyfriend is an animal rights activist but dang he makes a lot of money. Sucker can cook, too.

From: TrapperKayak
24-Nov-17
My wife has a dog, golden ret. that is 13. We have another big golden that is 4 and drools at the thiught of anything edible. She is allergic to their dander. Dried drool=dander. No dogs allowed anywhere but the family room due to being allergic. The older one has a tumor in his mouth and may not be around long, and she's beside herself with worry and angst. I and the big dog might be next to go once this happens, due to allergies and snoring. Count your blessings.

From: Bowriter
24-Nov-17
Well, a husband is a lot easier to come by than a good dog. But...for that matter, so is the converse. A good dog is harder to find than a good wife. Best place to troll, the dumpsters outside medical schools. Just fake a heart attack when a likely looking one comes along. They, the females students, always get stuck with emptying the garbage.

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