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Received an email from the National trappers association yesterday about delisting wolves in the Midwest. The link takes you to big game forever. I cannot post the link, can someone post a link here. This is a great chance to help out.
I am not joining anything linked to Don peay or sfw
Regardless if they delist or not, the damage has been done, and its not going to change. They will not ever get any control on them, at this point. You would not ever get enough tags, and be successful enough, to make a difference...
In Wisconsin, at best you would get maybe 250 tags,,,,, not all are going to be filled, and if they were, it would not even make a dent, in the problem...... Short of a disease, of some sort, there scourge will continue. Sportsmen are law abiding, and most are not going to violate Fed law by illegal killing, regardless of all the bravado talk
It was a terrible idea, in the first place,,,,,,,
Giving money to Big Game Forever isn't going to provide any help with wolf delisting.
BGF is a greater danger to hunting than wolves ever will be. It will be a cold day in **** before they ever see a penny of mine.
While I'd love to see wolves delisted in the Midwest, their effect on deer populations are mostly exaggerated.
I'd like to add that I would be VERY leery of giving any money to an organization that associates with BGF.
SFW, and BGF are basically the same people. It's a scam to get money. The Wolf is their cash cow. They tried to derail the wolf delisting in the Rockies because of that.
Not aware of a problem with BGF. Can someone fill me in?
I wasn't talking about joining bgf, it is an email that they have put together that gets sent out to the politicians in the states involved. I agree about not wanting them in the first place. At least this would be a start, more than we have now.
""SFW, and BGF are basically the same people. It's a scam to get money. The Wolf is their cash cow. They tried to derail the wolf delisting in the Rockies because of that.""
True. These guys are absolutely no good for the average hunter.
Send me $100 and I'll get the emails going too.
"While I'd love to see wolves delisted in the Midwest, their effect on deer populations are mostly exaggerated"
That's total BS for northern Wisconsin where I hunted for years but had to give up due to the deer herd being decimated.
No Wiser you sir are off base on your statement.... Please advise me where you live, and how the wolves have not affected you...... I can have you meet a lot of live stock owners in N Wis and the western UP, that would beg to differ.......
The truth of the matter, especially for NW Wis is that the herd is decimated, by wolves, which are only doing what they do, which is kill,,,,,, it is a fact of life , wolves sleep and kill,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, they do not live in Disneyland,,,,,,,,,
Maybe you should ask the hunters in Idaho, if they had any affect on their elk?
Maybe your Grizzle Adams, and can talk to them, but the reality is, they are killing machines, and a hunting and trapping season is needed on them badly,,,,,, But like I said, they will never issue the amount of tags needed, to control them
I hunt National Forest land about midway between Duluth and Ely, MN, in an area with some of the highest densities of wolves in the state. After a bad winter or two the deer can be tough to come by. After a couple of mild winters, they bounce back. The camp next to us claims wolves ate all the deer. I still see them, even in though tough years. I've even seen wolves and deer at the same time from the stand. The deer bedded down and 5 minutes after the wolf left, she stood back up and got back to feeding as if nothing happened. No doubt wolves negatively affect deer numbers, I just don't believe to the extent most claim. I'd take a bunch of wolves over a severe winter any day.