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Has appearenatly pulled their support from the NRA, I guess the sportsman who brought them to the dance aren't worthy of their support any longer, shame on yeti. If you'd like to voice your opinion and let them know that you will not support thier product any longer their number is 1-512-394-9384.
Good, they have been ripping off dumb hunters from day one with there outrageous prices. Now maybe bubba red neck won't think he has to take out a second mortgage so he can be bubba cool with his yeti.
Do you have a link to show they have dropped their support?
If you do a web search you'll notice that there are actually a number of coolers in ice tests where the ice actually lasts longer than yeti's. There's several brands that cost a fraction of the price!
That'll be a huge mistake.....
I was never interested in their overpriced, overhyped products. I don't even have one of their travel mugs. Screw them. I'm happy with my Coleman Extreme Elite.
Ok, who’s going to be the first to set their yeti on fire and post it?
I have a yeti and a grizzly cooler.. grizzly performs just as well.. might light my yeti on fire... Or not.. we'll see.. LoL
No need to set them on fire, if you already own keep it. Getting rid of it isn't going to do anything other than waste a cooler lol. I won't support yeti in the future, it's that simple.
I have a Yeti from years back, and I love it, but they have been passed by several companies, especially RTIC (truly a Yeti clone) for 1/2 the price, and they even have sales. I picked up a 65 qt RTIC for $134 (Yeti, $399). Yeti never has sales.
Yeti.... way over priced and nowhere close to being half as good as their advertising!!
Life time coolers. A quarter of the price and better quality...
I wonder how many of the “big time TV hunters” who are sponsored by YETI will react to this? I think we’ll see their true values on display for better...and worse.
Thank you for the link. Doesn't look good for Yeti.
"I wonder how many of the “big time TV hunters” who are sponsored by YETI will react to this?"
About the same as they did to Under Armour.
For the record, the tests that you see comparing Yeti and comparable ice chests to cheaper colemans, etc are not a fair test. They take all the coolers at "room" temp. I think that is "garage temp" and is probably at least 90. So they fill all the coolers at 90 degrees with ice. And the cheaper colemans last as long as the Yeti. But that is Bogus! The Yeti's/Rtic etc. are better built and have a superior insulation package. BUT that insulation wall is 90 degrees and it takes longer to get the wall cooled off. So they burn more ice in the first 24 hours than the cheaper coolers do. What they need to do is put ice in all the coolers for 24 hours, then dump that ice and start the test. That will tell you which keeps ice cold longer once the insulation has reached a steady state. And my Yeti/ Rtic coolers will beat my coleman extreme coolers any day doing that.
When I am leaving on a trip, I bring my cooler in the house and throw a ziplock back full of ice in it 24 hours before I need to leave. Then the next day, I put the ice I need in it and hit the road.
Yeti should just go to Dicks and sell golf clubs.
"I don't even have one of their travel mugs"
My Yeti mug might be the best $20 I've ever spent, you're missing out!
My RTIC mug is just as good as my Yeti one and less expensive
What's the big deal ?
A corporate decision does not effect my hunting decision one bit.
Much to do about nothing.
My YEYI, works just fine. Not going to burn it, shoot it it, or throw it away.
IT COST TO DARN MUCH !
In all of my 55 years of hunting/fishing have never needed anything such as a YETI. We always have brought our moose meat from the last eight hunts in NL back frozen in Colemen/Igloo coolers. 3,300+ miles and nothing thawed. Most of deer hunting was done not far from home so coolers not needed. Montana outfitter lived in NY and meat was brought back to clients in regular coolers at end of season. Have had caribou meat spoil that was mishandled by Quebec outfitter. For the price of a YETI I can shoot my new 6.5 Creed quit a bit!
"Ok, who’s going to be the first to set their yeti on fire and post it?"
Here ya go. ;) Of course this wasn't intentional, it had fallen in the trash somehow and I didn't know it until after I burned it. However, I will replace it with some other brand now.
Possible clues to what is going on?
So what if Yeti stopped donating to the NRA? Maybe the had a down year and could no longer afford to. I highly doubt that they stopped the support because they are anti gun considering that the owners are outdoorsman. I feel that it was better of them to support the NRA while they did than to never support the NRA like so many of the other cooler brands mentioned.
My Colemans do just fine ....
I bought a Walmart 20 qt cooler and it holds frozen ice bottles all weekend and it was only$78.
I love my Yeti. I also am an NRA member and involved in the Friends Of the NRA which is the arm that supports youth shooting programs around the country. Yeti pulled their support for the NRA and as such forced all FONRA chapters to scramble to provide coolers for banquets around the country. For that reason I won’t buy another yeti and will buy RTIC which has helped fill the gap left by Yeti.
ChasingFAHL, I don't think donating was the problem. The release I read said that YETI was no longer going to SELL coolers to the NRA. SELL, as in money changing hands, although I'm sure there was a discount involved. I can't see YETI losing any money in the deal, as much as they charge for their products.
Do we have confirmation this a political statement and not the nra playing bully again over some business decision? No skin in the game here just asking.
I keep hearing ho the ice test aren't fair to the yeti. How you need to buy extra ice in order to make it fair for the yeti. I thought the whole premise of the yeti was to save on ice costs? To keep ice longer. How does having to charge the cooler earlier and, with more ice then a $40 cooler needs, more economical? I'm so curious to know.
To the issue of the company dropping the NRA, it was to be expected. Anytime companies find favor with yuppie buyers, decisions of principal are sure to suffer as effect. This is no different.
Bullying? How does a company choosing to stop doing business with another, get the victim card? SMH at our reasoning. Dumb founded really.
"Don`t burn your Yeti, it won`t solve a thing"....until a bunch of hardcore outdoorsman coming out of the local tavern and see it in the back of your truck. LOL
Much rather burn a cooler than have my truck keyed or get my ass kicked. At least you will have ice to put on the lumps on your head.
I also am not smart enough to understand how a cooler that needs more ice in order for the ice to last longer, is a better cooler?
Proverbial Bigfoot in the mouth... cooler heads will prevail.
good luck to them. Probably not gonna end well
Teachers union demanded Well Fargo drop all their business and accounts with the NRA. The president of Wells Fargo told them to go to hell. Said they weren't in the business of telling people what legal products they can or should buy.
The Nancys at Yeti need to grow a pair. The Left is desperately trying to divide our country even further than it is. We shall see how that works out.
Glad I went with Grizzly...
I never saw the attraction with them,,,,, there is no room in them anyway,,,,, what have I done for all these years, without one,,,,,,,, Yeti,,,, who cares,,,, agree, what a bunch of pansies
I have heard this is not true. Guess we'll find out in the next few days.
Yeti’s side I came across:
Guys if you want a cooler for a 3 day trip take your cheap Coleman and you will be just fine. You will most likely entually have to replace latches, hinges, etc and will eventually have to buy a new one. At least that is what I had to do, but then I am hard on coolers. I don't baby them. I fill them up, throw them in the back of my truck, pile stuff on top and when I am done with them put them up in my 100+ degree garage. Mine never lasted more than 5 years before I had to buy a new one.
As far as you guys not understanding why a better made cooler takes more ice to get the insulation cold, then maybe I am just not smart enough to explain it and someone else will have to, but if you take cheap insulation, it won't take much to get it cold. You take good insulation that is hot to start with, it will take more cold to get it cold. HOWEVER, ONCE IT REACHES A COLD TEMP, IT WILL KEEP ICE LONGER THAN CHEAPER INSULATED COOLERS.
So, if when I leave for a trip to Colorado for 10+ days, I don't care if it take a little more ice to initially get the cooler cold if it keeps ice longer from that point on. And I have proven to myself over and over that it does. How much trouble is it to bring your cooler inside and throw a ziplock full of ice in there overnight??? And I have now had my Yeti for 15+ years and it still seals just as tight and I have never had to replace anything on it. All that in a cooler that would cost $152 right now at RTIC is a great investment in my book. But you do what you want and you will be happy with that. To each his own https://www.rticcoolers.com/shop/coolers/roto-molded/RTIC-45-White#
Yeti used all those hard earned dollars and bought themselves a couple thousand acres in SW Kansas so they can exclusively kill huge bucks.
Thorton that's about what I would do with a fools' loot. You sound like one of them commies...
Thanks for your opinion but I wouldn't pay half of what they ask for their coolers. I have a hard time buying something that is injection molded plastic and styrofoam that will be worth $10 at a garage sale someday.
Thornton, you must be kidding right? If I’m not mistake they bought property with their hard earned dollars! They did not steal or embezzle that money, they sold products in a competitive market for a price that consumers were willing to pay and then spent this dollars as they chose.
I really don’t get people at all. You certainly aren’t forced to buy their coolers and you certainly have no business telling them what to do with their money! Why don’t you go down and get in line to collect those handouts my tax dollars are paying for then tell me how to spend my money too.
Right Jim. Similarly, potentially destroying anothers' business because of some vague he said/she said? What the hell are we becoming? Is this even real? Was it really political, I still don't know? If it is political and you can cite legit sources, please chime in.
"Yeti used all your hard earned dollars and bought themselves a couple thousand acres in SW Kansas so they can exclusively kill huge bucks."
What a bunch of capitalist pigs! How dare they?!
Hey free country and the owner of yeti is free to buy whatever he wants with his money. The statement above says yeti has changed the structure of their program, well if the structure is no longer dealing with the NRA and they haven't said why we can assume they are folding quietly to the social pressure of the gun issue. Mistake on yetis part is to bow out without giving a reason, they don't have to, but then opinions form as to why and the result can be a disaster. If they have a reason for doing so they best get thier PR dept in gear and let the sportsman community know why. Seems that a opening was created for other cooler manufacturers and they have jumped in and took advantage, see where this goes. I still plan on calling yeti on Monday and letting them know I'm not happy with what seems to be a betrayal to the sportsman community.
Thornton the "blue collared" rifle hunter speaking his words of wisdom. Love it. It's amazing every time you open your mouth you bad mouth anyone who has a different opinion of you! Thornton for President of the idiots!
Thornton- If you were smart enough you could research Yeti coolers and realize it's not styrofoam. You really aren't that smart are you?
Bowsite needs you though cause every time you open your mouth the hypocrisy is mind blowing! Now, go sight in your rifle for those 1/4 mile shots on 120" bucks and leave us to debate Yeti coolers. LOL.
You claim to be Kansas's resident archery deer hunter but can't come up with $25 to support the KBA? Move along rifle boy!
We already went over this a couple times Quinn. The buck was 152" and he was 507 yds, - well past your "1/4 mile and 120" statement. But then again, I have begun to understand why you are frequently confused. That being said, I have included photos of the "styrofoam" in the yetis that looks very similar to the stuff you shoot out of a can to fill cracks around window and door frames. Furthermore, a $50 cooler is pictured as well with the same identical stuff.
My main complaint with regular coolers is that the hinges and latches always break. I can buy a yeti like clone much cheaper with decent hinges and latches!
I have a Yetti travel mug that I like as well as a thermos that came in handy in Canmore when I needed to get it "close to the fire". Having said that, if they are pulling away from the NRA, I am done with them. I think Jim Shockey was sponsored by them. I wonder what he thinks about this? No middle ground here. Will be attending our local FONRA banquet in a couple of weeks, should learn more there.
Lee and Tiffany, Steve Rinella, Remi Warren, and Mark Seacat are all YETI ambassadors. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
I gave up my NRA membership back about 1987 due to their stance on assault rifles. Back then I felt they belonged in the hands of military and similar, only. Shootings at schools and Las Vegas have not changed my mind. Support those that support the things you believe in. Don't support those you don't care to. Your choice. America is great and always has been.
Had family in medical field. I have several FREE styrofoam coolers. About 2" thick. Never compared with a Yeti but they are great.
I used to fill the back of my pickup bed with coolers (48/80/100 quart). Roughly half would be full of ice. Then I would spend 3 days filling them with salmon fillets and headed and gutted salmon.
What made the whole thing work was the layer of old quilts and sleeping bags on top. While a pickup full of Copper River red and king salmon was worth a bunch, I sure wasn't going to use Yeti's to get it done.
For those who travel a long ways and put the coolers in the open bed or strap them on a trailer, cover with a silvery cheap tarp and you will double your ice time.
Okay, so we are supposed to stop buying Yeti products. How many of the alternative cooler companies are openly supporting the NRA?
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In order for me to stop buying Yeti products, I would have to start buying them. LOL.
This hype is a complete overreaction. So what if they don't want to be a vendor for the NRA? I'm sure their business model is crashing because people are finally figuring out that their coolers really aren't worth the money and the discount they were giving the NRA wasn't sustainable. As posted above this is a business decision, not a political one. The NRA however has to make everything a political which is a shame. Their tactics are as irrational as their opponents.
This is only an over reaction if it means nothing to you. Yeti was free to do as it wishes based on what suits them best. So was the NRA and, everyone that decided they'd rather not support Yeti any longer for doing so. While this no doubt seems to be an attempt to gain back brand control and add nostalgic value back into the Yeti brand, it was Yeti's decision to do it. How many dang cooler were they selling the NRA? At the profits they reported in 2015, I doubt the amount had any viewable affect on the bottom line profits of almost $500 million dollars. It's a private held company that can do as it wants. Just like the consumers that buy them
Shooting at parkland in February, yeti evaluates in March, and in April cuts ties with the NRA, timing is a little suspicious. If yeti was selling coolers to the NRA for the children charity then why stop "Selling" to the NRA? The only reason is to cuts the ties with the gun lobbying which seems to be the in thing with these corporations nowadays. Need to fight with what we have, and until these corporations realize that they will suffer a consequence of thier actions it will continue. Support yeti if you choose, your right to do it, just won't be joining you.
I boycotted yeti as soon as I saw the damn price tag!
It appears the NRA, has a little broken egg on itself.
From what I can ascertain and from what I read "Yeti" is no longer offering a discounted price to the NRA.
At some point in life we all have seen a retailer / wholesaler discontinue a sale / price reduction.
As I stated previously it was a corporate decision ($) , so why should / does the NRA, have any beef at all ?
Why is it Yeti's responsibility to support the NRA Foundation? Why would any company want to support the NRA Foundation if they will get slammed like this should they decide to discontinue the support?
It is not Yetis responsibility to support any foundation. They can support or not support anyone they choose. As can those of us that buy high end products. There are a number of products available from other cooler vendors.
They have the right to do whatever they want, but man you've got to at least question the timing of this one.
The same can be said for those that don’t support yeti. Why Would it matter if someone decides against supporting them based on this corporate decision?
I’m pretty certain there isn’t a difference fundamentally. Even though some would love to make it out as being different.
I think this would be a good time to roll out my brand:
As soon as this news broke, I started seeing a ton of RTIC ads on social media that included nothing more than a picture of the second amendment, I thought it was pure gold! I too usually use the SHITI coolers, but due to the pure humor I found in that RTIC ad, I'll probably look in to getting one before September rolls around.
^^^^^This was well played by RTIC that's for sure!
What are your thoughts as to exactly WHY they PULLED their support at this TIME?
What do YOU think the message is they are trying to send? What statement are they trying to make, or more importantly WITH who? Not going to listen to some walk back corporate speak after the fact.
A company makes a statement not only by their words but by their actions. To me it is a clear statement they are distancing themselves from the NRA, in effect supporting the infringement of my 2A rights with more and more meaningless regulations and supporting many leftist groups efforts to infringe them. Bad move. As was stated somewhere else..... they are not selling a bunch of these coolers to soccer moms.....
They bail out on me, refuse to support me and my rights...... in what world should they or anyone expect me to support their product and business?
Lots of other options, many of them better options. Their competition must be doing happy dances and giving high fives about now.....
IMVHO it was a business decision. They felt the potential to lose sales because of NRA affiliation was higher than without affiliation. Apparently they feel nonNRA members will buy more coolers than NRA supporters.
Spin it however you like but if it looks like a duck and walks likes a duck, it's a duck.
I think yeti panicked with all the press the NRA was getting from that Davy Hogg kid and boycotting companies who associate with the NRA. I think the reconfiguring their discount program was a way of trying to kill two birds with one stone. Say your taking the discount t away, giving the impression that they have cut ties and that the public would see that and approve and that sportsman would continue on using and supporting them. A calculation that I think has backfired, only time will tell. As mentioned, RTIC certainly took advantage of the massive hole blown open in the market to gain support from the outdoor community.
I'm going to buy an Rtic now just for the hell of it.
Does anyone else feel like the NRA has a scorched earth policy for anyone who doesn't play by their rules? I'm not a YETI fan boy or an NRA fan boy, it just seems like the NRA has an our way or the highway type attitude. Maybe not even the highway, more like a "well I hope you die" attitude if you don't do exactly as they prescribe.
Coming from a life time member. No matter what took place with this situation one thing has become increasingly clear to me the last few years. The NRA speaks less and less for me as member, citizen and gun owner. They certainly don’t represent me as hunter.
Actually Brotsky I think liberals have a scorched Earth policy. I'm sick of them and their feel good response to every tragedy.
I see it as black and white and I see Yeti as folding to the left. They have crapped where they eat and it will hurt them.
I don't disagree with that at all Mark in regard to those on the left. However, if YETI truly abandoned their discount program for vendors because of slumping sales and financial trouble then it's a little unfair of the NRA to play this card considering how much YETI has donated to conservation in the past. I would be interested in hearing the RMEF's take on this. Did YETI cut them as well from this same discount program? If so then I think that speaks volumes as to what really happened. Now if RMEF was not given the same treatment as the NRA then that speaks volumes as well.
Pelican will donate 10 dollars to the NRA and give you a free tumbler with a cooler purchase. Orion, orca, and many others are just as good, if not better than yeti
Whoever is running the show at Yeti obviously have no idea as to how seriously people take what many consider a "war" on their 2A rights. Even if (and IMO that's a YUGE if....) this had other purposes than to distance themselves, only the clueless suits would have not had any idea this is how it would play out in the real world. Damage control? But for the clueless would there have even been any damage at all.....
As for those who support "tighter regulations" on gun ownership, the 2A is not about hunting rifles nor hunting rights at all. There have been very few if any events in recent history that more regulation, tighter regulation would have stopped. Those pushing for new regulations are simply taking everything they can while they can..... the end game being total confiscation. "We really aren't after your guns...." is the equivalent to "if you like your plan/doctor you can keep your plan/doctor..." They are liars of the worst sort, they justify lying for "the greater good". They want to outlaw private ownership of firearms and will stop at nothing to those ends. But know it will have to come in increments..... It's how you boil frogs.....
"Why can't we be more like Great Britain?" Who's violent crime and murder rates have surpassed the US with their stringent firearm regulations. Look to Chicago with some of the tightest regulations...... and highest murder/violent crime rates in the country. Make more laws, regulations..... heck, you might even make it illegal to murder someone while you are at it. Might even add on a new law that it's a "hate" crime..... that should do the trick....
“The NRA speaks less and less for me as member, citizen and gun owner. They certainly don’t represent me as hunter.”
The fact that the left leaning liberals hate the NRA means that they are doing enough to get my membership dollars.
The fact that they do not represent your opinion on so called assault riffles means that you fail comprehend the incremental approach to change. This has nothing to do with yeti and everything to with the NRA. Delta airlines did basically the same thing. Dick’s spoke loud and clear in it’s stopping the sale of assault weapons. Simply put if you are not for me then you are against me. This is akin to voting a split ballot. Especially since Washington DC cannot spell bipartisan.
P.S. I have used the same four Coleman coolers since 2007 a minimum of four weeks a year and the annual family reunion and two weddings. At the time they were $65. That comes to $26 a year so for me the math works. You pay for what cooler you want and you need zero justification. I that if I used them more frequently then they would not serve well for that purpose. There many forces trying to promote change in how we live.
I will not support any organization that openly goes against the lifestyle that I live.
why do so few gun owners and hunters support the NRA? has to be a reason...................
I guess I'll spell it out for you Thornton since my point went right over your head.
Yeti and most higher end coolers do not use "styrofoam" insulation as you are claiming which is why I said you didn't know the difference. Styrofoam is Expanded Polystyrene (EPS). The insulation used in Yeti and other high end coolers is Polyisocyanurate or most commonly referred to as ISO, a Urethane based insulator. ISO has a much higher R-value than EPS therefore it keeps ice longer.
Bou, I could say the with the P&Y, Boone and Crockett, and all state bowhunter associations. They do not know or do not value what they are paying for...
Capitalism made Yeti what it was. Yeti run that in the ground by over charging for their product. So, capitalism will see yeti decline and quite possible die altogether. Ain't it grand the way that works. Offer what consumers want or, go do something else. They have run their brand into a common market that doesn't support novelty ideas. Yeti also decided it was beneficial to stop selling coolers to the NRA at a lesser negotiated price too. Their right. Interpret as you will. However, just because Yeti says so doesn't make things as so either.
I do agree that it was a business move. I also agree that they were including the NRA as part of it for good reason as they seen fit. So, no I don't see the NRA as a having as scorched earth approach Justin. I see an organization that gets little support, even from people that should support them. They get bashed for everything under the sun. By members of the hunting and, gun crowd. They have been bent over and beat the last two months by their own. In their eyes and a lot of other peoples, this was no different. Just another friend turned foe. Lots of other see it that way as well. Yeti conveniently saying differently now is just damage control in my opinion. It wasn't hard to suspect what was coming from the gun owners with this "business decision". So, I have a hard time believing that anybody at Yeti is that dumb.
X2 WV, “ I see an organization that gets little support, even from people that should support them.“
If you don't agree with the NRA and are not a member this still is catering to those who are willing to take your 2A rights. Obviously there are many gun owners and hunters that are not NRA members. We may not all be members but we all have 2A rights.
Yeti has had PR issues with guns in the past.
This could easily be a business decision. However the timing stinks. Someone at yeti had too now this.
X2 Bowfreak. You hit that nail squarely on the head.
My stance on the whole gun issue is that freedom comes with a price, and abolishing that freedom comes with an even greater one. YETI has the right to take a stance on any issue, and we as consumers have the right to take our business elsewhere. Capitalism is awesome. If I had the option of 2 near-identical products, with one company agreeing with me politically and the other company disagreeing, I will choose the company I agree with 10/10 times.
If all the gun owners would spend 30 dollars the NRA would have more power and we wouldn't be seeing all these anti gun politicians. Get off your butts and sign up, any disagreements you had/have with the NRA can't possibly over rule what's going on. Where I live these small towns are banning semi autos. Never a shooting or any issues with guns in theses towns hut these idiotic politicians think they can prevent a mass shooting by banning weapons. Put your differences aside and join up, we need all the numbers we can get.
WV, spot on.
Regardless of whether yeti pulled the discounts to NRA members as part of company wide policy, you gotta admit it was dumbass timing givin the political climate
Well watching the evening news here in Chicago and channel 9 reported yeti stopped there support of the NRA.
I don’t get all of this...I’m a NRA Lifetime member and dont own a Yeti, however, it appears to me that Yeti just changed their corporate program by providing a special make up (alternate customization program) cooler for organizations in lieu of the existing discount program. This didn’t affect consumers but did affect how the NRA Foundation was getting the coolers. Tell me if I’m wrong but this all has a lot to do about nothing IMO. Simply a company scrapping one corporate program for another...Someone enlighten me please.....
Ok Kota, you are smart guy. Do you not think yeti was at fully aware of the public’s perception? I do not believe in coincidences when you have an extremely successful in vogue multi million dollar company. Yeti fully embraced the hunting community and has a detailed marketing strategy based on those demographics. So what appears to be no harm no foul has already served an intended political purpose. You being a financial guy you are well aware how quickly the stock market is affected by trivial information. Hunters as a group are divided and in today’s politics that doesn’t bode well.
P. S. When do we getanother review?
Typical NRA spin and why they'll never see any more of my money.
I'm sure the Yeti group was sincerely shocked that it was perceived the way it was. No one is that stupid.
What make you people think the NRA is pushing this issue? They simple stated the FACTS....Yeti is no longer giving discounts to NRA members. Everything else is the free market at work.
Yeti feels at this point they no longer NEED the hunting outdoorsman....their coolers are in retail stores like Ace Hardware. You have to be a special kind of idiot to buy a $500 cooler.....lmao
“Yeti feels at this point they no longer NEED the hunting outdoorsman” Exactly, why would you support those that no longer you and publicly stated so. Obviously, they think that hunters are either to dumb or to numb affect the bottom. Also, Thayer no that fad wildest out and we demand that they deliver. The fickle masses will remain to be stylish!
Maybe they are going after the polo moms.......
I agree with WV, they had no idea that swapping one program for another would be perceived this way. People, this has nothing to do with "NRA Members getting discounts" on Yeti coolers. Everything I've read has simply stated that they scrapped one corporate discount program for another. I'm not trying to defend Yeti, but I honestly don't get this. As a lifetime member of the NRA and 10 year committee member of the Friends of the NRA Foundation, IMO the NRA-ILA (a separate "arm" of the NRA) completely misconstrued/twisted the facts on this one. Unless someone can set me straight with facts, I think we may be over reacting on this one. I, for one, am not ready to "burn Yeti at the stake" for this one....yet. Maybe a cooler review is in order? ;)
Does anyone consider the timing of this? Weeks after the parkland shooting and other companies putting distance between themselves and the NRA? Yeti all of a sudden comes out with the change in discount program, however fail to tell the NRA why the discount went away? Do you think they were looking for cover from the PC crowd and it backfired? Check your news tonight because mine is reporting that yeti has cut ties with the NRA. Regardless of how they wanted it to go they have got the mainstream media saying they've thrown the NRA under the bus, damage done. Also, for you guys say you will not join the NRA , fine, but just remember when your guns are banned you have no one to blame but yourselves. Illinois is trying to override a veto of the givernor that will force gun shops to be licensed in the detective and a five member panel can enter a gunshop at anytime and review thier books. Any mistake that is found the five panel board can Levi fines into 10k per. Gun shops won't last long and funny thing is the big box stores are excluded.
The liberal left leaning media wants people, companies and organizations to reject the NRA and that is how they will spin this even if Yeti did not intend it to be anti NRA. Any explanation by Yeti to the explain that they support the second amendment and the NRA will not get much air time. Think retraction on the back page in small print! The damage is already done.
Anyway you look at it its going to be a PR disaster for Yeti with the hunting community.
Kota, with sincere respect, I think we are disagreeing. I meant that last comment as sarcasm. FWIW, I do believe it was business driven though. However, unless it is proven that they treated all outdoor organizations the same, I don't think that the point Yeti was unaware of their actions can realistically be debated. If it is shown at a later date that I am wrong, I'll be the first to say so. Until then, I have no reasons to believe that anyone at Yeti is so dumb to misunderstand the implications of stopping support of the NRA Foundation at this time. To me it matters not why Yeti did it. It only matters that they did it. God Bless men
Looks like some one shit there bed this will put the biggest hurt on the co ever
The same letter the NRA got is posted on archery talk but addressed to a quail group.
Its ridiculous how the NRA tried to make Yeti look bad in this situation and also how quickly many went along with what the NRA sent out. I'll happily keep buying Yeti products
I'm guessing they are already feeling the drop in sales
I am reading this thread and also others in places like AT, Facebook ect and the amount of stupidity on display is staggering. We are doomed if the comments represent a significant percentage of gun owners and sportman.
I don’t know about how anyone else would handle it but personally if a company that supported my organization in the past to the level that yeti supported the NRA among others, presented me with a new corporate sponsorship program that didn’t work for me, I would thank them for their past support. Furthermore I would keep communication open and maintain a relationship with the hope to facilitate a future deal that befits both parties. The fact that they( whomever at the NRA) was willing to spin this for short term gain at the expense of a past partners and allies speaks volumes for their lack of class and short sightedness. It should also wake its membership up to the fact that we need new leadership and direction if we are going to succeed via the NRA.
The Tone, your statement precedes naivety. Remember ignorance of the law is not an excuse . This nothing to do with NRA but has everything to do with the NRA. Go deep...
It only took 30 seconds to find the letter sent the NRA and the other orgs that were part of the old sales program, as well as a post from one those other orgs. The NRA ass clowns that let this get twisted up should be fired.
Again..... even if so...... dumb, dumb, dumb....... they are/were clueless. This will hit them big time. The timing alone...... dumb. And expensive.
The leftists have latched onto this already, "Headline: NRA bleeding support" or some such. THEY don't CARE what Yeti "really" meant or were trying to do. The damage was done to the NRA already by the Yeti pullback in this political climate. And the NRA is supposed to sit back and say "Yes sir! May I have another!".... good grief. I would have to think SOMEBODY was forewarned by all parties about such decisions in this current time and how it would play out. Somebody in the NRA fired? You got the wrong "company"..... Yeti did this, not the NRA..... dumb. Clueless thinking they operated in a political vacuum. (IF in fact that is what they say it was. I'm not sold on it. As they say.... timing is everything....) Dumb.
Unless they announced this MONTHS ago..... the walk back is corporate speak for "wow, I didn't think it would be such a big deal.....". At minimum they are guilty of horrible timing and being clueless as to political/public ramifications. And that's IF they are being truly honest in their PUBLIC response.
Nothing says 'Murica like a babe in the back of a truck, beer in one hand, assault rifle in the other. :)
Dumb is getting butt hurt because you lost your preferred cooler pricing, turning it into an anti 2nd amendment issue, and throwing a multi decade supporter of hunting, fishing, and the outdoor lifestyle under the bus.
I cannot believe that this was a random action by Yeti and an overreaction by the NRA with today’s political climate. Why would yeti make such a poor business decision after recently failing to go public?
My family has plenty of Yetis, cups and coolers. We will buy no more, all life members of the NRA!
This issue, and these comments, sum up the stupidity of America in these modern times. We are just as bad as “they” are. Facts don’t even matter anymore.
Oh well,as evidenced here,we still have 1A.
You got that right Kevin. At least we can say no one side has a monopoly on stupidity.
I wouldn't say I'm ignorant or naive in this situation, but that for insinuating that pigsticker. Yeti seems to have ended a long standing promotional program they had and allowed the companies in that program to take part in their current promotional program and the NRA through a fit and blasted Yeti for it. The NRA is well aware of the impact they could have with this and fully seems to have done so to hurt yeti. Interesting timing for that pelican cooler promotion, maybe they were tipped off to the NRA's upcoming PR and knew they could use it to generate sales.
Funny to read that Yeti no longer supports hunters, I was just at a large hunting groups meeting last week with thousands of attendees; lots and lots of yeti stuff there as well.
For those of you with Yeti coolers that you just can't stand to use anymore I'll give you $10 for them especially if they are 65, 75, 105, or 110's.
Plenty of other options out there, nobody has a monopoly.
Probably for every NRA member that quits buying Yeti, there will be two more NRA haters that will start buying Yeti. We are far outnumbered. In my office there are over a couple dozen gun owners/hunters. All but a couple (not me) wouldn't give a crap if AR type rifles were banned forever and they don't believe that incremental confiscation of other guns will ever happen. I'm sure most of them are Dems (liberal) and hunters/shooters.
The latest from the NRA Camp:
"In a statement emailed to The Washington Post Monday night, Marion Hammer said that it was “news to us” that Yeti dropped not only the NRA Foundation from the discount program but also other organizations.
“After three days Yeti issued a statement claiming they didn’t really drop the NRA Foundation,” she said. “They claim they simply eliminated the entire program affecting NRA Foundation and other unnamed organizations. Isn’t that like eliminating a job position so you can get rid of an employee?”
She added that “Yeti decided the NRA Foundation can’t place any more orders and in fact they forced us to cancel orders they would not fill.”
That doesn’t sound good for Yeti. I’ll hold my verdict but I can’t afford their coolers, I do use their tumblers though.
Yeti is a major supporter of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation which is clearly pro-gun, pro-hunting. Yeti is a Diamond-level supporter of the Wild Sheep Foundation, pro-gun and pro-hunting organization. I have not heard of Yeti dropping support for either of these organizations. Ending a program of providing deeply-discounted merchandise does not necessarily mean that Yeti no longer supports a given group. I think it is a bit of a stretch to infer that Yeti is caving into the anti-gun lobby.
Fellow's this isn't a "Left or Right" political issue.
It appears to me, the NRA, is sensationalizing what should be a non-issue.
Where is any business / corporation required or obligated to give a discounted price to anyone ? To any corporation, to charity or to an organization ?
In my reading's of the US Constitution, regarding the 2nd Amendment, I do not recall the NRA, ever being mentioned. Someone please correct me if I haven't read the 2nd amendment correctly ?
I would certainly want to know if a "Yeti," sales, or one of their corporate decision's is an infringement on my "Constitutional Right's"
They are doing the big back track, will watch how it plays out.
Let's face it , yeti got thier hand caught in the cookie jar and their attempt at damage control putting blame on the NRA, saying that they didn't cut ties. Again, the timing of their discount is highly suspect and they were probably trying to to look good in the eyes of the anti gun crowd. Regardless of why and how this came about is moot, the press has it and are reporting that yeti has dumped the NRA, another company. This backlash is good, let other companies who have been supporting the NRA to think twice about dumpling the NRA for PR. Hunters and gun owners who don't support the NRA will regret their choice in the future, the anti gun crowd has the momentum and we need to turn that around again.
Business people make business decisions and ones that hopefully increase the bottom line. Even top executives make poor decisions for their companies sometimes. And it remains to be seen if it was a poor decision.
I’m in the “don’t have any Yeti” camp, so easy for me. If I need more days out of my coolers, I add 1/2” layers of building styrofoam inside.
If it involves guns or a pro gun organization then it is a "Left or Right" political issue.”
Watch the news.
Not a member of the NRA nor am I a yeti owner(maybe a cup or something) Think this could've been handled differently on both ends. Yeti is the only one that will suffer consequences though.
Damage control time, and yes it is political.
I do watch the "News", intelligently I believe.
After watching the "News" and a / my lifelong assessment of what I see and read I think I know the difference between fact and fiction.
Fact: It is the Yeti, Corporation's right to offer or not to offer discount's.
Fact: The NRA, is masterful at sensationalizing an issue.
Fact: I know and have known many people both on the left and on the right and in the middle of the political spectrum who both support gun right's and those who do not. Doesn't make them bad people, slime ball's, scum, or any other negative or vile term anyone can think of.
Fact: It make's them an American, their right (1st Amendment) to speak and to believe as they believe. They do not need my or anyone else's approval to do so.
Fact: My hunting camp is full of people with different point's of view, politically, socially, and hunting. Because they do not agree with me doesn't make them less of a person or less of a hunter. It only makes them a person with a different point of view, be it Liberal, Moderate, or Conservative. Yes all of them, both male and female and none, none of these folks need the NRA, to think / speak for them. They are all well capable of thinking and speaking for themselves.
Fact: The politicization of every issue is asinine and absurd.
(I had tp edit. Sounded too snotty.)
buc, I am finding the hypocritical and condescending tone harder and harder to take. I am quite capable of determining who is right and wrong without all the lectures. I don't need the NRA to tell me how to think. This particular instances has degrees of right and wrong on both sides. Refusal of you to admit that is starting to show your true political colors.
Yeti is operating in a capitalistic market place. They have the right to do as they wish. They also must stand for those decision. Business is relationships. Sometimes you must know your role and guard your tongue for the betterment of your business. A lesson Yeti is learning. That is capitalism. That isn't what you are preaching.
Both parties here are playing on the sensational side. Quit placing all the blame on one entity alone. It is obvious from past posts and your sentiment here, that doesn't matter with you when it involves the NRA. We don't need the lesson from the educated one. Just say what it is. Yeti pissed in the wrong yard and they are going to pay for it. Like it or not, that is just the way it is
Can you all imagine where our gun rights would be without the NRA? we would be down to single shots and revolvers may eat semi auto or two. The NRA positives far outweigh the negative, and that's a fact. What would our gun rights be if Hillary was elected? just like voting, you don't always agree 100 % with the candidate but yo vote because you agree with most of what they are for. No difference here, and I'll never understand why any gun owner would not support the NRA. Could you imagine that if every gun owner was a NRA member? Gun rights wouldn't even be in question, but for some reason certain gun owners feel they can't support an organization that's if fighting for thier right to own a gun. And when your in a fight all tactics are fair game.
SMH, FACT... i can't believe i read that post on bowsite.
I don't intend to get into the argument with good opinions voiced in this thread. I do worry about the timing of even a small corporate move when so many companies are bailing on second amendment rights. Even small steps can be messages. Messages get on a roll and really feed the fire of those out there who don't support 2A rights. Yeti has the strong REI type, non-hunting market and I wonder how much they really worry about the NRA and members. I called their HQ in Austin. The customer service rep was very nice and referred me back to their statement and strongly insisted that they support 2A rights. I hope it is true and that they make that clear in vocal support of RMEF and Wild Sheep and other hunting organizations. Maybe if they get a flood of calls it will make them rethink and strengthen support of hunting organizations. Hope so. Too many companies going the other direction these days.
Sure don't need facts to fry somebody these days....................................
Trial153, I wholeheartedly agree.
And WV " I am highly educated, I make good money, I am successful, I have an extremely high IQ"
I am proud of ya! Not sure I'm as proud of you as YOU ARE, but super impressed!!!
I cannot find where I have been condescending to you or anyone else ? Nor can I find where I have been hypocritical in what I have posted ?
Post # 1
I merely stated, "It is Yeti's, right to offer (or withdraw) any discount offer to anyone" i.e. A / their corporate decision.
Placing the blame on "ONE ENTITY" ? Who made the initial press release complaining ?
Post # 2
My observation had nothing to do with the politic's of that decision it was the business decisions of the parties involved.
post # 3
I was asked / told watch the "news" and I responded in a manner I felt was necessary. I thought my response was appropriate and inclusive of all side's Left, Center and Conservative.
Now if my last post caused your hunting boot to get to tight then perhaps you need to get bigger boots.
WV, I may respect your input, your knowledge and opinion's. This said, I do not however wish to be chastised by your "Preaching"
WV, you of all people to call out anyone here for lecturing, being condescending is a bit of a stretch. Even for you.
What does it mean to "support" the 2nd Amendment. Could mean a lot of things to a lot of people or corporations.
Best double whammy would be to sell your Yeti stuff and donate the money you get back to the NRA in their name. Robs them of a potential customer and supports the very organization they are trying to disassociate with.....a nice one two punch.
I do not have the time nor the inclination to have to many liberal socialist in my camp that are combatting the lifestyle that I choose to live. They do not have to do anything except vote and they have done enough for us to not be good friends.
I do not get many open conversations with liberal socialist. Open to them means that I am open to their opinions and not them to mine. I give my family a free pass but it is not without due diligence and extreme resolve.
"Fact: I know and have known many people both on the left and on the right and in the middle of the political spectrum who both support gun right's and those who do not."
Fact: "If they support gun right's and vote Democrat then they unknowingly do not support gun right's."
"Fact: It make's them an American, their right (1st Amendment) to speak and to believe as they believe." Fact: That does not make them Americans! We have many people who are not Americans who exercise the right to speak and to believe as they believe.
Fact: I spent 24 years defending the whole constitution and not part of it against enemies both foreign and domestic.
"Fact: It is the Yeti, Corporation's right to offer or not to offer discount's." Fact: It is the right of the consumer choose their course of action" Remember that group called the Dixie Chicks. "Fact: The politicization of every issue is asinine and absurd." Fact: This is today's political environment. Be it asinine or absurd to act as if it is not is to sleep while the enemy is moving.
Fact: The NRA is the voice in Washington when it comes to gun rights. Your politicians will gradually give way if they are left alone with no accountability.
Fact: "That is why the NRA has anchored the opposition in every major gun-related debate since it altered its main aim from marksmanship to hard-edged political activism. That change came 40 years ago and was related to other shifts in political sentiment, including the departure of Southern rural conservatives from the Democratic Party. All these helped elect the first presidential candidate to ever be endorsed by the NRA, Ronald Reagan, in 1980."
Intelligently watch the news and you will see that we have done little bipartisan governing during the last two administrations. So why would I share a camp with someone who is negating my vote. As Nancy Pelosi said " We won the election we will right the bill." They will do likewise when they have the President, the house and the senate.
This is a highly charged political issue, the NRA IS POLITICAL. It's what they DO, they stand up to leftist groups and politicians that are chip by chunk doing all they can to take away a Constitutional Right. A right so important the founders made it the second freedom after the freedom of speech. They are in the fight of OUR lives right now. But hey..... this Yeti thing isn't political..... no big deal.....
With the timing of this, how it was done (NRA stated Yeti will not even fill the current orders?) How can this NOT be seen as political? How was this NOT to be seen as a political message at this time? Only if you refuse to. Intentionally blind as to what is going around in the world outside you. "Simply a business decision" Sure. Right. That's how it was taken...... That one "want's" something to be taken a certain way, does not make it so. Like the girl who drops you and starts dating your buddy.... "Nothing personal, can't we still be friends?" yeah. sure. Just a business decision.....
That a person does not WANT something to be made political, sorry, that's just ignoring fact. Ignoring reality. It is the reality, no matter that someone wants to make it go away. Putting on blinders, telling others they should too..... and when they don't, well, they're the ones stupid and uninformed....
Some will look away, some will walk away...... they don't like to get involved in the political, or they have some vested interest one way or another.... fair enough. Some will not. They will speak out as well as spend their money with who they see fit... that lil' freedom thing......
No one is saying any of this is illegal, good grief..... Yeti has every right to run their business as they see fit. What they don't have the right of is to be insulated from those decisions and think they can separate themselves from reality, live in some political vacuum. They made their decision for their own reasons, whatever they were. They will have to live with it.
As their competition takes advantage and does a little happy dance..... That's a business decision as well......
And the NRA membership grows.....
Thank you for your service. I too am a Vet.
Perhaps your view of what is an American, certainly differ's from mine. That is OK, you are entitled to your opinion and to your view. Me I am a little more inclusive of who I view as an American. I do not need to have an organization or someone else tell me how to do so.
I'm fine if a person vote's Democrat, Republican or Independent. It's their right right to vote as they please, to speak as they please. It's the American, thing with me.
My service to this country was to defend these right's and I'll continue to do so even if I can't get a discount from "Yetti"
Yes, I'm fine if "Yetti" doesn't give a discount to the NRA, or if they (Yetti,) does not give a discount to anyone, including me.
It's their (Yetti) decision !
Well over 100 Orgs were part of the old buying group but only one made it a 2nd amendment issue.
thanks WapitiBob. kind of paints things in a different light.
I don't have all the facts, but the ones I do know, tell me some folks would look great with a pitchfork in hand......................................
When you are “recognized today as a major political force and as America's foremost defender of Second Amendment rights, the NRA has, since its inception, been the premier firearms education organization in the world.” You must occasionally wield that power.
Just say that you don’t like the NRA and don’t need to be An advocate of your 2nd Ammendment right. Then has nothing to do with Yeti and everything to do with the NRA. For me the price of membership is a small price to pay. It may be the best deal in America. Your own personal lobbyist at a mere pittance. Something that corporations pay millions to have a voice in Washington.
K Cummings's Link
Nobody here has all the facts. Only talking of what both companies have said.
buc, you say you haven't been condescending. Here is just one quote from your last post " I do not need to have an organization or someone else tell me how to do so." That's about the 4th time in this thread alone you have insinuated people that follow the NRA are incapable of making their own mind up here. That's only in this thread too. I'm sure you can see that. So, quit playing naive to your intent.
I get it. Bob, yourself, and a few others hate the NRA. Keep telling every one that it is all the NRA's fault. That Yeti blindly walked into this. They exhibited freedom of choice. There is nothing wrong with that. No one has said any different. Yeti has the NRA's response. They have done nothing to rebuttal against the claims that they canceled the orders abruptly. That's business. So is living with those decisions.
And the plot thickens...
"NRA Florida lobbyist Marion Hammer, a former president of the national gun-rights group, gave us a little more detail about the intensifying battle between hipster cooler company YETI and the National Rifle Association."
“YETI severed ties with the NRA and is now engaging in damage control after a backlash from many of its customers. In early March, YETI refused to place a previously negotiated order from NRA-ILA, citing ‘recent events’ as the reason – a clear reference to the tragedy in Parkland, Florida. YETI then delivered notice to the NRA Foundation that it was terminating a 7 year agreement and demanded that the NRA remove the YETI name and logo from all NRA digital assets, as well as refrain from using any YETI trademarks in future print material. While YETI is trying to spin the story otherwise, those are the facts.”
WOW ! ! !
WV, perhaps you do need a "pair of boots" ! It appears that more than one of your boots are too tight.
In my last post I mentioned and I quote: " I do not need an organization or have some else tell me how to do so ". This was statement was in regards to defining what / who is an American is.
For you to say this is condescending and it is about the 4 th time in this thread (?) that I have insinuated that people who support the NRA, are incapable of making their mind up here, is outright false !
To say I am playing naive to my intent is ludicrous !
WV, Perhaps you should re-read my posts / replies to the issue.
Perhaps then you will make a truthful response !
The lefts attack on the NRA since Parkland has been relentless. Yeti simply caved to the lefts pressure.
What the left put Dana Loesch through is insane.
No, my boots are fine. Maybe I am wrong. You tell me. But before you do, see your last post claiming that I am lying. Why would you do that? Does it make you feel snide? To me it proves me right about your hypocrisy. I'm sure you'll have a different interpretation of it. Just like you have for every thing else.
I have never talked down to anyone. I don't do that. It is classless and resolves nothing. I might be sarcastic at times but, that is only when not addressing something seriously. I mean no harm. Also, Do not ever mistake my willingness to state my opinion for condescension. I have never done that. Only stated when I disagree. I don't base my feelings of debate on emotions. I base them on the facts I have. In all situations. Which is why I refuse to budge on them. They are the facts man. And, I don't preach to anyone unless they ask me too. I understand that gets confused on a computer due to the lack of face to face interaction. But, that is just the way it is. I suspect you understand that as you are claiming the same.
As far as the snotty reply, I removed it because it was a reply that after reading, I knew would be taken out of context. It was meant as example that I and others are capable of making our own decision without being told how by you or, the NRA. But, as usual, that was lost in the mix when some one could take a cheap shot instead of defend the position they spent numerous posts talking about.
You are entitled to your opinion. Right now, that is all it is. And, one that is getting more suspect the more Kevin digs. That isn't a wise crack either. That's just the way it is. In honesty, you have made a lot of claims as fact in this post. Without the real facts. Time will tell.
Those ignorant Tide-munching kids ditching school to protest (what?) issued a statement last week that they won't support politicians who take money from "special interests". Ha! Guess they won't ever vote, then.
Like them, Yeti has made a corporate choice to side with a different "special interest" group than gun owners. Wonder how many $500 coolers those little idiots and their soccer mom supporters will buy now to reward Yeti for their self-righteous "business decision"?
Yeti must pay some pretty serious sponsorship money. Right up there with Rage....overpriced products to cover advertising and sponsorship. Seeing all the outdoor celebs defending them....John Dudley, Adam Greentree, Fred Eichler, haven't heard anything from Jim Shockey yet.
Thanks Kevin. Much appreciated.
Considering the timing, etc. it makes much more sense. As Bowfreak said, waddles, quacks, leaving feathers and duck poop everywhere.....
Guessing the beautiful people at their cocktail parties all talk to each other about evil black guns and the bad guys at the NRA..... Out of touch, clueless as to how much of their customer base would see this action. Cheating on the dates that brought em to the prom...... "can't we still be friends???" Nope.
"Fact: The politicization of every issue is asinine and absurd."
Fact: Willfully ignoring the obvious political implications of an issue or event IS naive..... at best....
Good to know we aren't accusing anyone of anything though.....
I would like to know when the Hollywood hunters are going to chime in? Some of them have been sponsored by yeti and I understand they want the cash, but at some point you need to choose a side. In my mind there is no doubt yeti knew what they were doing and when it went bad they tried to dig out of it, it didn't work. So let's hear from some of the celeb hunters as far as where they stand, either with the hunters or yeti. Gentlemen, whether you Realize it or not this gun issue is unlike no other, we as the gun community have lost the momentum and we are in serious trouble. We are being grouped together and blamed for the actions of some psychos. The complete failure of the legal system to lock these nuts up and have allowed them to carry out thier shootings, and it's a perfect storm for the anti gunners. If we don't stand up and fight our rights will be taken away. it's already started here on Illinois, your town/state is next.
"haven't heard anything from Jim Shockey yet"
What a dilemma it would be if it was SCI that they dumped......
"YETI then delivered notice to the NRA Foundation that it was terminating a 7 year agreement and demanded that the NRA remove the YETI name and logo from all NRA digital assets, as well as refrain from using any YETI trademarks in future print material. While YETI is trying to spin the story otherwise, those are the facts.”"
No mention of the other participants, 300+ I'm told, that got the same notice.
Well, this has gotten kind of ugly so maybe this will add some humor to the situation. Here is a photo I took of a flyer that came in yesterday’s mail.
Now we call all hurry out to Dick's to buy some Yeti coolers. Or, we could just be jealous of that bikeseat :)
Dicks scrapped their gun sales in many areas for political reasons, maybe to make space for the Yeti's and other Liberal minded merchandise.
Would not waste my money on none of there over priced products. JMO
Just listened to John Dudley's podcast where he adresses the issue. Sounds like it may all be a missunderstanding and poor communication on both sides of the issue.
Well, if it's a big misunderstanding then I hope I see yeti come out with a full blown apology and a ringing endorsement of the NRA, all will be well. I don't think that's going to happen, and if yeti doesn't then I believe the bleeding will continue.
You are wrong in your assessment of my posts. Plain and simple !
AS usual, when you are called out for your incorrect assumptions you try to divert what you have posted to a side issue. You for whatever reason seem to have problems with being as forthright as you claim to be.
To answer your question, I am not being snide, nor am I being hypocritical.
This said, when it comes to being condescending I think your past and present posts speak for themselves. You seem prone to include replies to other posts when you have a strong disagreement / difference of opinion with other's, thus dodging what you know is inaccurate. Therefore it can become confusing or muddled if not paying attention to your reply's.
If I made any claim to anything in my posts that isn't factual or with humor, please advise point by point and not with your usual innuendo's.
WV, I called you out for your personal attack on me and to your condescending and lecturing remarks to me about me posting 4 times that, "people who follow the NRA, are incapable of making their own mind up to think for themselves" ?
NEVER HAPPENED, PLAIN and SIMPLE, FALSE !
I do understand the loss of intent via internet and a face to face discussion. We both can agree it can be problematic. So I want this to be clear, "If the shoe / boot fit's wear it"
The guys blowing up their Yeti's look as silly as the guys that were cutting up their black guns.
If you already have a Yeti cooler that you paid big $$ for, why would you blow it up or burn it? Just slap a Pelican sticker on it over Yeti, and throw on some NRA stickers.
Good idea PECO , I got one for Christmas last year and haven't even used it yet . I'm going to cover in N.R.A stickers and any other anti-liberal stickers I can find .
Nothing on Yeti's website--including the FAQs. In contrast, NRA's site has several stories about the whole Yeti situation.
Yeti could be pure as the driven snow in this matter, but their corporate sluggishness in providing information is puzzling. They're failing Public Relations/Crisis Management 101.
I'm pretty certain Yeti knew there'd be fallout. I don't think they care.
There's a void to be filled now and the competition ain't wasting any time.
There is no doubt that yeti has screwed the pooch. The other companies has jumped on yeti's misfortune. Other companies better think long and hard before they bail on the NRA members to make a political statement. If Yeti didn't bail or cut ties with the NRA, then why haven't they come out publicly and say they back the NRA and their members 100 %, easy for them to do but yet they haven't. To late now, live with your mistake.
It appears one store has decided not to sell Yeti coolers.
All arguments aside, I spent some time yesterday wandering around downtown LA with the family and a Yeti 20 bag slung over my shoulder. All the company's failings aside, that thing is incredible. Kept all the drinks, snacks, and lunches for my pre-school age kids cold all day, and was easy to carry around.
Both of my Yetis were gifts (would never pay the sticker price, no matter how good they are), but I'm sure not going to blow them up.
I might plaster NRA stickers on them though.
Yeti likely will do better with the Yuppi antihunting crowd than the hunters, more money there. They made a calculated decision.
I think you are right Missouribreaks! Check out the last Twitter post in JL's link above. A yuppie posted a pic of the 7 new tumblers/mugs he bought for $280! Man, some folks must just have money to burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
Rut Nut anyone with a yeti has money to burn lol.
The ratio on super coolers is all wrong. If it keeps ice for 10 days, but only holds 3 days of food, why do I need it to hold ice for 10 days? I need a cooler that will hold 7 days of ice and 7 days of food. But that sized yeti would be harder to haul then a full sized chest freezer. Meanwhile I have a Coleman that does 5 days ice and close to 5 days food. That's about the best combo I have so far.
That's what I keep saying Missouribreaks but apparently the small percentage of hunters that can afford them is going to be a huge loss for Yeti. I doubt it highly. Like I said, libs will buy more of them now that they have publicly distanced themselves from the NRA. Besides, I'm sure there are still wealthy hunters who could give a rip about the NRA will still buy them. Yeti has already attained the label of the cooler of affluence.
Is it just me or does it remind you of a woman carrying a suitcase sized purse to hold her wallet?
APauls has it right, yetis are small inside compared to the size of the cooler. What's the point of keeping ice for 10 days if you run out of food in 3 days. 12yards, the loss is in the mugs and cups, I bet that's their bread and butter, and it will have an effect on the bottom line, although with yeti being private I'm sure we'll never know.
If I had one I would not destroy it but on the other hand I would never buy one. There are plenty of coolers out there that our just as good or better
APauls hit it right on the head. I have an RTIC 65 and I've set it next to a YETI 65. The RTIC is significantly larger inside.
Or maybe it is by design? If they(Yeti) hold 50% less, then you have to buy ANOTHER $399 cooler! ;-)
LBshooter, do you really think that hunters are their primary mug and cup market? I would think just the opposite.
12 yards, I think it's a mix, but I would think that their mugs and cup sales outsell the coolers. I bought a few this past Christmas as gifts for my hunting buddies and I received a few as gifts too. Since they are price we'll never know the true numbers but they will loose sales big times for a huge mistake in the PR game, that's for sure. I will not support them, so if they want the non Hunter/Sportsman community as their customers, more power to them.
Like I said..... going after the polo mom market.......
Too much as good or better competition..... and support of the NRA for a purchase? That as they say in Cribbage is a self dumper.....
What I want know is there any guys on here that have a bubba jacked up 4x4 with a yeti sticker covering the back window? Poor bubba, he did have a bubba truck of pride now it's a bubba truck of shame.
The National Rifle Association would have to do something waaaaaay worse than over-react to a corporate sponsorship withdrawal, to affect my support for them. I’m grateful for the freedoms we have in this country and would like to keep them.
I cant imagine owning a Yeti because of price. If they were $40. a piece, it would be more of a problem for people to stand on principal.
My thoughts, exactly, Lever Action. My Coleman works almost as well as a Yeti, and if I want it to work as well, I wrap an old sleeping bag around it.
Now that the Dems have figured out the NRA has a Russian life member and are "investigating" them, I'm liking the NRA even more.
Next thing you know, these pathetic losers will start investigating other cooler companies to determine if there's a "Russia connection".
I might get to meet the owners of Yeti next week at a meeting. If I do, I'll ask them firsthand what happened.
And expect anything but what the corporate response has been?
Been there, done that.....
I'm seeing a lot of NRA support from other companies, I haven't seen any from Yeti. Have I missed something, or have their actions spoken loud and clear?
No, you didn't miss it. Yeti could have cleared this up in mere minutes. Seems to be only one side speaking loud and clear about this with no fear of repercussions from doing so.
buck i ..... "none of these folks need the NRA, to think / speak for them."
Really!!! without the NRA, speaking / lobbying for them / us, IMHO, "we" being gun owners, might be completely different.
It is incredible what guys will bitch about online. Some of you take things waaaaay to personal.
Seems that Chevy doesn't want to give the NRA free trucks, so I'm going to go blow my 50k truck, I'll show them..... Lots of opinions here, not gonna say who I think is right/wrong (other than for the neurosurgeons who have chosen burn/blow up or defile perfectly good products). What I will say is if you're going to insult other people's intelligence, have the decency to spell correctly!
Springfield armory cuts ties with Dicks Sporting goods.kudos to Springfield.