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Wolf Delisting Lawsuit - Selected Quotes
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Contributors to this thread:
JTV 29-May-08
TD 29-May-08
Z Barebow 29-May-08
Rattus 30-May-08
cindy 30-May-08
Pete In Fairbanks 30-May-08
From: JTV
29-May-08
I dont see what the problem is....hunt/manage the darn things!!!......oh yea...the problem....DRATS!!.....Jeff

From: TD
29-May-08
Thanks. Great stuff. It would seem to be a slam dunk wouldn't it???

Gotta hope it's not falling on deaf ears though. Sometimes truth and logic isn't a judges strong suit.

From: Z Barebow
29-May-08
To TD and all-

Remember, common sense isn't all that common!

From: Rattus
30-May-08
Those quotes are not common sense, they are facts and speculation based on sound research and observations. Wolf haters are often just as ignorant as the anti-hunters on the topic of wolf population dynamics. Other interesting facts is that wolves still account for less than 1% of livestock losses in Idaho. Domestic dogs continue to kill more (many more) livestock and pets than all wild predators combined. Regulated hunting brought back cougars and black bears from the brink, and can work for managing wolves also.

Boone and Crocket is adding the wolf to the list of North American big game for record keeping. For those self promoters who want a world record, this is the time. The wolf world record will likely change several times over a brief period of time. I suspect a very narrow range of scores will encompass the majority of wolves listed in the record books. I wonder if P&Y will follow suit?

From: cindy
30-May-08

Bear hunter kills wolf in defense

By MICHAEL JAMISON of the Missoulian KALISPELL - A black bear hunter who shot a wolf Tuesday west of Whitefish says he killed it in self-defense, and wildlife officials agree that appears to be the case.

“Based on the evidence, this was a justifiable self-defense shooting,” concluded Lee Anderson, regional warden captain for the state Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks.

According to Anderson, Kalispell resident Zachary Harms was driving his truck up a forest route near Olney when he saw movement on the side of the road.

Harms climbed out of his rig, and thinking he might have glimpsed a black bear, began walking along the road, rifle in hand.

Two wolves then bolted from the forest.

The larger of the pair crossed the road and ran up the hillside opposite, Harms reported. The smaller wolf turned and ran down the road directly toward Harms, Anderson said.

The hunter waited until the animal was within 10 feet before he fired, killing the female with a single bullet to the head.

The wolf, Anderson said, appeared to be in good condition, and showed no outward signs of sickness or injury. Harms said it was not growling as it approached, but still he felt the wolf posed a threat to his life.

Harms contacted the Flathead County Sheriff's Office on Tuesday afternoon and reported the kill.

Anderson and other investigators traveled to the scene and determined evidence there supported Harms' story of a self-defense shooting.

Earlier in the week, FWP officials announced they were working with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to investigate a suspicious wolf death in the lower Thompson River drainage.

The animal was found, near the Priscilla Peak trail, by a hiker out looking for shed antlers. The hiker reported his find to local game wardens, who collected the wolf carcass for analysis.

A necropsy concluded that wolf was killed by a human, and authorities are looking for information concerning what they have termed a “poaching incident.”

State wildlife officials have offered a reward of up to $1,000 for information in the case, and anonymous tipsters can call 1-800-TIP-MONT.

Although wolves recently were removed from endangered species protection, Montana has not yet established a licensed hunting season for the animals.

Reporter Michael Jamison can be reached at 1-800-366-7186 or at [email protected] ----------------

Nice to know wolves don't attack people! Oh well what are a few children, pets, livestock etc.

30-May-08
Interesting to see how much mortality those biologists say is "sustainable."

In Alaska we have found that to do actual wolf CONTROL, you have to remove over 60% of the overall population on successive years in any particular area to actually even temporarily reduce numbers and slow predation rates. The ability of wolf populations (as you L-48 guys now know,) to recover and build up is incredible.

The enviros don't have a leg to stand on if the judge considers the science here.

(Consider the science? Now there is a novel idea!)

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