Discuss Interactive Bloodtrail 31
Whitetail Deer
Danggit I did not mean to hit the submit button, but I really would have prefered the "right between B,C and D myself!
I think the answer should be "directly in the middle of all 4 of the choices".
I agree. I got the anwer right, but I would shoot right in the middle of those.
Yep, but he has to make it challanging on some level and asks of the choices given, which would you choose. Since none of the above is offered, you have to go with C as the best of the 4 choices.
You have to look at where the arrow will exit.
quartered away and downward aiming for far quarter I picked C
"You have to look at where the arrow will exit."
Yep, I am partial to aiming for the "off" leg as well.
which answer got 3 points?
Agreed c is way to far back.....gut shot..... I'll shootthat buck at b spot and watch him go down within 40 yards......
C is your last rib; you may hit liver but you will likely hit at least one lung as well as the major vessels leaving the heart. Aiming at A may hit heart but even being 2 inches off to the left and you will never find the deer. C was by far the best option here; especially at 20 ft in the air.
I meant B rather than A but both are too far forward at this angle.
you guys think pat puts these up for our entertainment when in reality he puts it up for his own as he watches the whining and beechin' commence.
I answered C, but would aim a bit lower to account for some string jumping. D is just too dang low. Drop your bow arm a bit and miss the whole thing. Good eating!
I agree with the height, but I hate tracking the liver+one lung shots- they always go like 300 yards. I think A would have been a better choice of the two, if we're to suppose the arrow will strike on the dot- it would get that huge vascular mess coming out of the heart, as well as lungs. If we're looking at just an aiming point, I'd say halfway between A and C, to accomodate for "buck fever" in any direction (what I usually have- I'm not cool and collected like Matt).
I picked c but I would have gone half way between C and B
i got it right but would have tried to put it where in middle of all .Thanks Pat this gets the blood going pun completely inteneded
Sorry but some of these games are just off. I voted for b and I am sticking to it. lol definetly lungs and no guts.
I would aim for the middle of the dots and be satisfied if the arrow landed on any one of them. I have shot enough real deer to know that there is a big difference between shooting a live deer and a foam target in the backyard.
I would aim a little lower than C but it is obvious thats the shot if you remember to aim for the opposite shoulder........
How long before the next clue Pat?
i answered b and sticking with it, aim for the opposite leg and you can't go wrong, the picture does fool you with the angle
I answered b and am sticking with it. Deer is on the ground in less than 50 yards!!!
I didn't agree with any of the 4 dots. C was the best choice given the height of the stand, but I would aim right in the middle of all 4 of them.
I pick E.
I agree that c is a bit too far back. wish there was an E option also!
The exit point of C is right behind the right shoulder with the deer at this angle that's why it is the best answer. The arrow passes from the rear of the rib cage on the left side through the vitals out the other side just behind the shoulder. D is too low, passing out below the lungs, both B and A might miss the lungs completely with this angle.
Look at the deer's body, he is looking hard right, thus giving the body a slight curve causing A and B to be to far forward.
I shot a nice buck last year right at the same point as B (he was broadside then turned 1/4 away and I didn't move my pin back), I found half my arrow, no blood trail. I am sure he lived to see another day. Anyway, that's my humble opinion.
I answered C, best of the options given, but would actually shoot for E if in the position. B could result in a heart shishkabob or entering behind the right side shoulder and exting the right side brisket and a lost deer, depending on the angle and any movement by the deer.
No question c. E looks a little to far foward exiting out in front of the far shoulder potsntially missing the far lung given the position of the deer
C is the best you guys forget these are ct deer !!! out the front shoulder on the other side .Good shot Matt if you hit him there .STEVE
A. would hit left lung and heart at 20 feet up. C. would hit liver and right lung and other shoulder. I said A. HEART!
lol..... John Boy and Billy....."take C!"
A properly opened Rage would touch all choices. All of the above! :)
I agree with the "E" choice!!
ive done enough of these now to know its not about whats right or whats wrong , its all about what they did , you have to choose the answer that matches what they did
I agree with E! That is the best shot there! JJ
Off leg boys, consider the elevation.
Have fun, it is almost time!
"B" is better than "C." "B" is heart-lung. "C" is liver-lung.
So waiting an hour isn't the same as quietly staying put???
Stupid.
Rooster... couldn't agree more. I like the idea of an interactive challenge, but some of the answers and choices really are stupid.
I agree with the choice of E, but I chose B and will have to stick with that. On part 2 I think b,c, or d could be the right answer depending on what you see or hear during the waiting time. Matter of opinion I guess.
B would slice the aorta right off the top of the heart and probably get the base of the pulmonary arteries and pulmonary veins. Like I said deer on the ground within 50 yards with B.
The camera was lower and to the left of the hunter as is almost always the case with these blood trails. Being as the hunter is higher and to the right the only shot was option c just my opinion. I've done a few of these and the cameraman seems to always be set up to the left of the shooter and a little lower its probably habit but if we are analyizing the whole picture you can't forget these little things.
E is perfect for the camera angle. C was perfect for the archer's angle though.
How long does one "Stay put because you can't see the deer right under you."
Do you wait until sundown?
Do you wait until you can see the deer again? If the deer doesn't move on inside half an hour with a good hit, the deer is dead. At some point, you need to quietly move off the stand and take a look. To simply say "I am going to stay here because I cannot see the deer" doesn't make a whole lot of sense because you might be staying put for a LONG time.
What the difference between waiting a half hour-hour compared to deer went down out of sight, stay put. To me the only difference is in the wording and like ericolson said you could be in the stand all night.
What is wrong with wait 30 minutes and then go dawn and look for your deer?? Of course you are going to wait in silence!!! I think this answer also is correct!!!!
Well yes I think between B and C and if there was an E thats where I would have gone I chose B because I think C just might have caught the stomach.
Now the second clue was what would you do? Well theres only one answer......Its only a few secs since your shot..... wait quietly....for the time being...... it might get up and walk out again as to how long..... well well see what happens next.
THESE ARE LOADS OF FUN. MY COMPUTER MAKES IT HARD TO SEE THE HIT. I GUESSED WITH WAIT AN HOUR AND GET DOWN QUIETLY. EVEN AFTER KNOWING THE ANSWER ITS STILL WHAT I'D DO!
The difference between staying put and waiting 30/60 minutes is by staying put I won't even reach for a second arrow, won't move, won't talk, wont lower my bow, won't call my buddies on the phone, won't grab a candy bar, etc.
I disagree with #2 waiting - 30 minutes will give you answers to at least what to do next. Just waiting is too vague. I once shot a buck that went 80 yards turned towards me a fell. His head was up. I waited 6 hours and he never moved. I finally got down. He fell and his horns were caught by a small limb I couldn't see. He was stiff and getting warm. I waited 6 hours and the buck was dead in less than 30 seconds. I believe in waiting but in this case waiting is just waiting. If you don't see or hear anything is 30 minutes how much longer are you going to wait.
I agree with wait and see. There are no hard and fast rules. Yes, we have general rules, ut like everything else it all depends on the situation. Yes if the deer runs out of sight we generally wait 30 minutes or so, but where he ran behind the bush it's best to wait and see what if anything happens.
Obviously from question #2 it was Pat's evil side that wrote this particular challenge. When is Snookie making an appearance?
I agree with bowhuntdoug 30 mins is plenty I have never waited longer than that
Clue # 1 didn't give distance to deer.If the deer was 30 yrds away C wouldn't have been correct answer.Clue #2 could also have been wait 30 min considering the awesome shot placement and the video to back it .It seems to me there is a lot of arrogance on your staff! May I suggest that one of your members not take part in the making of the next challenge and take the quiz when the others are done with it.
One thing I noticed is that there are 2 deer in the video
I picked C on #1 because I knew that would be Pat's answer. It's not where I would have aimed, but I don't get to make the rules. I would have also picked E but even B is a better choice than C for me. I would rather aim just ahead of the off leg than just behind it. Lots more big arteries up there.
#2 was a no brainer, at least I thought so anyway.
Man the kids get pissed when things don't go their way. #1-C was right. There's no arguing it, except to make one's self feel better about not getting it right. There were four choices, which one is best of the four. C was the only answer. Whether A, B, C, or D was the best place to put an arrow, was not the question.
#2 instructions were " Watch the video below and then look at the options presented to you. Pay close attention to the shot and the video. Sometimes what you do not see is just as important as what you do see."
Emphasis on what you do not see. Three of the options involved getting out of that tree, regardless of what might have happened; either right now, in 30 minutes, or in 60 minutes. Granted, you'll probably know one way or the other during one of those time frames, but in the game you don't get that. You get that your deer ran behind the brush and you don't know what is going to happen next. Only one choice -Wait quietly where you are.
Jeez, I suck at these and I get that much. Now, I'm all set up with a perfect score through the first two, and am ready to tank #3.
Waiting and seeing is a good answer. Maybe wait 10 minutes and the deer falls over dead. Or wait 30 and spook him to track him 300yds. If he falls over you will see him. If he walks slowly away then you wait longer for him to bed down. Nice shot tho...Butch
#1 B is a much better shot, As someone else said it's better to exit just in front of the off leg.
#2 sooner or later you have to get down to see what happened. 30 or 60 min are both reasonable answers.
So far I'm perrrrfectt! But. I would have chosen E if I squeesed off the shot.
Nice shot!!!
I puzzled over the wait 30 or stay still and definitely staying put is the right thing to do.
I've been in this situation and if you fidget around he's back up and may go on adrenalin before he bleeds out. SHOULD be a short blood trail! Why do I think it won't be that easy?!
Gobbler: I thought the same thing. B is center of the heart-lung nexus...the Arch of Aorta. About the quickest death with an arrow in my experience.
Thought B was too low myself - C should be smoke since the arrow nails the far leg (note the deer limping off on the right front leg - it definitely hit the leg). I was tempted to go get him immediately as he ought to have crashed where he went out of sight but I always wait 30 - AND do it quietly!
Lee
P.S. hunt4it100 - he may be small but remember it is the young man's first buck! That deer is a monster to a young boy. This is coming from someone who's first deer was a 1 antlered spike and was a "bigger" kill than most all my deer since then.
You have to think ahead to get the right answer on the second question. Anyone who had just made that shot would do what the correct answer says. The reason wait 30 min is not correct is that you don't know yet what the deer will do in the next few minutes. Since this is a "blood trail" he obviously is not going to fall dead right there. So in the next question (after you have remained quiet and in the tree stand), the deer is going to run off and then he will ask another confounding question. LOL.
And he even gave a clue by telling us to rely on what we saw and what we didn't see (him coming out YET)
also I see the other buck still standing there, on the right side of last frame. You can see his butt..
Wow, I put B on #1 too but I'm ok with it not being the perfect choice. I have to say though, whoever said they shot a buck where B is marked and the buck lived to see another day is way off. That's a dead deer every time and I will take my chances with that shot location due to reaction and my choice to aim for the heart. If the deer reacts, then even better. I love the game and am not complaining about my miss, just can't see the comment about the living deer hit where that mark is. You also have to consider that the tree is also impairing your perception as it blocks part of the front of the buck. I like E and maybe a touch lower than that as well.
How do I get to Clue # 3.
He only adds one clue per day. Gotta wait.........
Note to all: These challenges are designed more to challenge you to think about how Pat stages the game rather than what you would do in the featured situation. LOL
So far I'm 100%, but I usually blow it in the later rounds because I just can't reduce my personal skill lever far enough to remain competitive in "Pat's Mind". HAHA, only joking Pat! Looking forward to the next clue.
Based on what I saw on the video, I have a sneaking suspicion that the last glimpse of a deer dashing between shrubs is not OUR buck....lets "wait and see", eh?
Clues one and two were slam dunks, folks. A very calm deer...and it appears the young man made a perfect shot. C is a much better shot at this angle than any of the other options. A case could be made for the mythical E offered above, but given our choices C is far and away a better spot.
IMO of course. :)
wkochevar,
Interesting take, but I've watched and re-watched that vid and don't see how it could be a different buck???
That shot looked pretty good, you got to figure you there's a good chance you're not going to have to wait long. On the placement I think a lot of us who have killed a lot of deer tend to aim a little more forward. But most guys would have picked the correct answer.
I have gone from picking my answer, to trying to figure out what I think Pat thinks my answer should be! Ha! Driving myself crazy, but I love these blood challenges !!!
On the first question, I remembered back to last year when we had a similar question, and the answer was that the high shot was not as good as the low shot (plus I was hitting too many spines in real life!), so I went with answer "D". What happened to the whole 'aim for the heart' because if anything the deer might squat lower at the shot??
Second question is another one that got me. I always was taught that even if you made a perfect lung/heart shot you always wait 30 minutes anyhow. I heard Pat in the background saying "Perfect" and "Smacked Him" so it goes to say they accepted it as a perfect shot. The "wait quietly" is a bit misleading compared to other options of waiting for specific times. Seems the only question is how long to wait after making a "perfect" shot. Would be helpful if all answer choices were similarly phrased like 5min, 30 min, 1 hr, 2 hrs...
Blood trailing is a great feature on the site! Thanks!
I think txhunter58 nailed it !! This buck is going to pause, and then leave from behind the cover to make the trail just a bit longer.
Damn, got suckered in again !!
Arctichill, here is why i say that....prior to the shot frame, there is clearly another dear moving across the top left to right. How do we know that others are not present, unseen above of the given frame(remember the seen/unseen comment? Secondly, if you watch the angle of the hit buck entering behind the shrubs, it appears off compared to the last blurr of the deer crossing the opening. IDK...It's a game and fun. Given the info we have, I would wait and see what happens next before I would committ to any pursuit strategy.
Here is why waiting quietly is the only answer for question 2. The shot is taken at the :47 point in the video and the video ends 14 seconds later. A little too quick to determine how long to sit.
These Blood Trials are going down hill fast. You seriously waited over an hour before getting out binoculars???
Watched the video a few too many times... but look in the lower left hand corner of the frame when the buck "disapears" at the 55 sec mark. He appears to go down. There's a flash of white, like he flopped belly towards the camera. My guess is he next glasses the buck "bedded" in the brush!
yep. would not be much of a blood trail if you only had to track it 30 yds. Bet he will take off running in the next section.
GregS, I'm with you. My binoculars would of been out as soon as I got into the stand. No way I'm looking into the bush for an hour before I decide to pull my binoculars up. I would be looking in the bush with them two seconds after the buck didn't exit.
GregS/Full Draw: Give some thought to what you would do in this situation in educating your 12 year old in the safest way possible to get this deer and have the most positive experience for his next 70 years of tracking deer. Perhaps there were other deer watching them or hanging around? Kid hunters are cool! I bet they get this deer! C
We plainly seen where the arrow struck the quarry and we also seen it go in the thicket directly below the stand with no detectable movement in 30 minutes, anyone I know in that stand would be down rady to eveiscetate said deer.
Charlie, I happen to have a 13yr old bowhunter. After the buck didn't appear I would've instructed him to glass the brush for any movement as soon as relaxed from the shot. No sense looking into the brush for an hour with the naked eye when you have binoculars. I know this is for fun, and there a million way to skin a cat. Shoot straight!
I would shoot at B. I would wait 30 minutes max w/ that shot. And I chose binos even though I never bring mine. So I'm doing crappy.
man i almost picked the candybar lmao.
Sheesh Pat, now I see what you mean about not wanting to do Bloodtrails because of all the whining. This is ridiculous. You'd think this was kindergartensite.com!!
You did just what I did 12 yrds. Charlie, I also am training my 14 year old daughter to hunt. Sure hope I dont screw her up too bad.
If that deer ran 30 yards and fell over dead I would still sit until I ran out of shooting light in hopes of another one walking by. We get lots of tags here in CT.
A young bull and an old bull stood up on a hill and looked down on a herd of cows. The young bull says "lets RUN down there and f@#% one of those cows." The old bull said "No boy lets WALK down there and f@#% them all."
I missed #3 because theres no way the "correct" answer would have been in my pack 1hour after that shot. Wait, strike that. All three, and my knife, would have been out, used, and back in by now...except the candy bar...I eat that as soon as I get in my stand!
On the video, I think I hear Pat saying "To far back", but I disagree because the arrow was angled well fwd into the quartering away deer. I've made that same shot, and had the deer fall with in 10 yards of where he was when I shot, after running in a circle.
IMO the arrow did tremendous damage, and the deer will be down very quickly. Gutting may be a bit messy, but the liver or stomach don't seem to slow the arrow much, and it continues forward into lungs and major blood vessels coming upward from the heart. Very dead deer, very quickly.
you must think Sneaky....like Pat.
I think Pat says "perfect". Which I am guessing will be proven correct shortly. Man, I could go for that candy bar about now.
I shot a deer back in 2007 in South Dakota and he walked away like nothing happened. I knew I had shot him thru the heart. I " thought " I had seen him fall but was not sure. I waited....2 hrs.........I wanted to get down but could not take the chance of spookin him. When I got down he was where I thought I saw him fall. Still today he is the largest deer I have ever shot and I have waited at least an hour on every deer I did not watch fall....therefore I think the correct answer would obviously be wait at least 30 mins maybe an hour..............
It crashed 30 yards from the tree and you need binoculars? Really? I'd think you be able to hear it thrashing around.
30 yards and an hour later.. Really guy's??
Strange things happen when animals get hit with arrows. If you've hunted enough and followed this site you should know that even what appears to be a perfect shot does not always equal a dead deer. Pat plays it safe and conservative - like we all should. I always try and remember that waiting patiently and playing it safe will NEVER do harm (unless of course there is rain/snow or some other reason that you HAVE to get down) but getting down too quick is a bad idea even if you are 99.9% sure the deer is dead. How do you know that this is not the 1/1000 fluke situations (broad head didn't open etc.) I would certainly bet Matt's deer is dead, unless he used a field tip. However, I am totally with Pat on being conservative and playing it safe! I can't tell you how many friends of mine have tracked too soon and jumped deer and they keep doing it and never learn.
Binoculars after one hour? Get real. If you have binoculars, then they should have been out the entire time, you need not wait an hour to glass over the situation.
How many of you are going to ignore your binocs for 1 hour. The only sensible answer was to give the kid a candy bar after an hour, because the binocs should have already been employed... I want want my full credit for question 3!!! Oh the injustice of it all!
+1 on the candybar. I am sure everyone here had there binos out within 1 min of loosing it in the bushes and cell phones out within 10 min after that to tell their buddies, so after an hour all that is left is the candybar.
My bino's are out and hanging on a hook on the tree directly after I get my harness hooked up once on stand.
The biggest mistake people make is taking things for granted while hunting. Yes the binocs should have been out sooner but the answers were multiple choice. Clue 1,2 & 3 were too easy, If your a good Bow Hunter.
I submit the following amendment to the BOWSITE BloodTrail Challenge rules. The crap in the little red box. I tried to BOLD the changes, but I doubt if it works....This change is retroactive to the beginning of time.
You need to be a registered Bowsite.com visitor to play and have cookies enabled. Please select the answer most likely to be what actually happened. While your vast experience and knowledge in this sport is acknowledged and appreciated, it has nothing to do with what the “right” answer should be. Should you post some sort of sob-story response to finding your expertise is well, not so much, you will be awarded a shiny new box of Kleenex, but no points. Correct answers are awarded the maximum 9 points and some questions may award partial points. If however you are a moron, and your answer reflects such, we will remove a portion of those points previously earned. Note: some questions contain more than one correct choice, choose the one that is better than the others. OK, that may not be true. See above. The top 500 highest scorers for this competition are posted. Don’t be surprised if your name is not among them. New clues will be presented each day so check back daily until the 8th and final clue.
This shoud alleviate any further whining. Thank you for your attention.
I am 3for3 but I would have had the glass out sooner was afraid Pat was going to say that and maybe call yor friend cant always tell what he is going to do not very hard yet but it will be comming .STEVE
If pat can get his 12 year old to sit quietly in a tree for an hour WITHOUT the 12 year old pulling out his phone and texting a friend, PAT is a magician!!!
I can't believe with the hit it took that buck isn't dead after an hour, but that would make for a short blood trail. Got me scratching my head. Still suspect the buck will get up and run off when they get down. Either that, or we are in for some more "candy bar" questions.
I am 3 for 3, but this one is starting out strange. Always fun though!!
Finally got one of these "opinions" right!!!
I can guarantee you I would not have waited 1 hour to look thru my binoculars since they are always on my person and I would have used them immediately after shooting anyway! What was that comment about a broadhead Charlie??? LOL
it doesn't say to wait an hour before taking out the glasses
Hey, if he had shot point B that deer would be dead within the hour.
lol....Gregs where he shot that deer it was dead in 30 seconds....
:-)
why weren't the bino's already out?
An hour before the bino's come out? Yeah, right!
Its funny smart people try to pick up info from those either wiser or with more experience then themselves and others are like the proverbial tea kettle .you know an empty one makes the most noise.that being said i think there should be a mandatory $5 fine for whining!!!!!!!:)
It seems as though we may have been forgotten today gents. Almost 3:00 and still no clue #4.
#4 is up got a 9 on all of em so far ;-)
eat my dust whiny beeches
I ain't eatin' nothin', and I sure as heck ain't whining. Looks like there's only one Georgia boy who can keep up :)
#4 is very lame....but I won't spoil it for others...its fun though .... thanks
#4 was hard. Now don't all of you self proclaimed experts who get it wrong give away the answer through all your whining.
I agree that #4 is lame, and beneath the spirit of the game. You can do better Pat.
TBB
i messed up on #4 i thought it said which pic has the deer in it. atleast i got what i thought the question was right
I must be blind, seeing things or confused about number of deer shot????
Well, with such a short blood trail, you got to come up with some different kind of questions.
Boy clue 4 really thinned out the people with perfect scores, over 100 yesterday to 40 something today.
Trick questions are just that. Trick gotcha questions which do nothing other than cheapen the learning experience.
Yes, I'm a sore loser. I'm taking my bow and going home.
There is definately a learning curve with these "games" and that is what they are. With some real world knowledge sprinkled on top. Helps pass the time till I head to Colorado on Sept 7th!
Gotta use logic on the last one:
1) After 1 hour, no way the other buck would still be standing there. Scratch that one.
2) If you look at each picture, you can tell that there is no way he would be in all pictures (different limbs, tree trucks, etc.) scratch that one.
So now you are down to the deer is either in C or in the other three. I just couldn't imagine him being in the other three, again, different tree trucks and limbs. And it sure looks like it COULD be a deer in the middle right of C (somewhat horizontal grey area)
Certainly not perfect, but keeps me coming back for more.
I suspect that if ANY of us had to come up with questions, there would be dissent from all corners too! Life ain't perfect, but it is sometimes fun!
I truly enjoy these games its a good time.
First of all the "best" shot choice of C was not the one I would have chosen. I actually went through the motions of posting and alternate selection with nearly the same chosen spot as "E" and then decided not to post it.
The binoculars question is a good answer other than waiting for an hour before looking. Unlike some others who think the deer flopped over on its death run and died within 30 seconds, what I saw from the video was a liver/one lung hit deer that was stopping to figure out what had happened to it. That deer is will die and soon but it may take it several minutes or an hour.
Like a lot of others, I chose B for lack of a better choice for the first answer.
Fun stuff Pat! Congrats to Matt for killing his first buck! It never gets better than the first one.
so how many of us actually got this right ? lol
Just cant get the detail from a cam that you get from the human eye & being there I don't see anything in those pics like a deer I just guessed. I shot a deer once about the same scenario but when I leaned forward & down I could make out parts of my deer & what was going on. In other words I got it wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
Txhunter you were seeing tree trucks in those photos???????????
slipped me a micky on 4 also....
give the kid a candy bar... to keep him going... why dont you. and he said we`ve got plenty of time so sit tight.
I think it might yet stand up and walk out who knows on this one.
Looks like the site of a living deer after one hour has taught us all a good lesson. Don't take things for granted. As far as the binoculars after one hour - what if you shot the biggest deer of your life and he stopped after 30 yards and you could not see him but you don't know if he can see you. Would you risk moving and spooking him off? I sure as hell would not. I'd be patient and wait for a big wind gust and knock another arrow. The last thing I'd want to do is rustle around in a pack and scare the trophy off. FYI all animals should be treated as trophies!
#5 that answer makes sense doesn't look like they have a shot to finish him off.
Right on wolfgang510. I'm shocked to see the deer alive after an hour. The respiration rate of the deer tells me he is hard hit. I agree w' Pat's whispered "dead deer, just a matter of time."
It'll be fun to see what's next.
I couldn't find a deer in all four pictures, but I thought I saw a part of a deer in A and C. I circled what looks like an eye and tip of nose in Picture A.
I don't know, the shot looked good, liver hit at worst. The deer has been laying there for an hour now and still ticking. If you wait, who knows how long. There doesn't appear to be a shot from where you are. If you get down maybe he'll run or maybe you can get another arrow into him. The worst experience I've had is watching a fatally hit deer die. Rather try to get it over with if possible. Yeah I missed the softball but having been in this position that is how I would play it again. A well hit deer will not last that long. The shot was marginal, maybe guts and the humane thing to do is try to finish it off.
Devil's advocate here- reviewing the video and question #1 - it looks like the deer was hit precisely in letter C. If that's the same deer, and we're looking at it still ticking an hour later, isn't it fair to say the C was NOT the best spot to shoot?
I really think the right thing to do would be get down an try to get another arrow in him if he is hit that hard he won't go far without lieing back down at least you will know an he dosnt have to suffer anylonger
i agree with rooster, E right between the other three. c seemed too far back and risked getting just one lung and maybe the liver. e and maybe just a scootch more forward and that deer would NOT have been lying there panting...i don't care how long afterward...top of heart would have been shot off.
To assume that the correct answers to these questions are actually correct would be to assume that Pat is more knowledgeable than I, unfortunately the deer lying in the woods suffering for over an hour tells me that C was not the best shot option. I also would shoot to kill the deer now from the tree if possible.
ikilledit - your logic is totally flawed. If I shoot a deer back near the hip and get the femoral artery and he dies withing 20 seconds does that mean I made a perfect or best shot? Likewise if I have a double lung + heart appearing shot that hits a rib, broadhead doesn't open properly or some other miracle happens and all major vessells are missed - does that mean I made a poorly placed shot??? Everyone on here right now needs to go back and read Pat's Elk feature. This teaches valuable lessons and also shows you what kind of a hunter Pat is.
After watching the video again it appears that as the buck runs off the entrance wound appears much further back than the impact view shows. Hit pause after the mule kick just after the deer is taking his second leap and his back legs are straight out back. There is only one frame that shows it (just after 47s) and it looks like it might be blood coming out of the hole. Also nobody has commented on the mule kick being a possible concern for the delayed death of the animal.
I found the deer but he asked what photo doesn't have the deer 4 for 5 Pat you are a bad person .
From what I can see, the shot was about where "C" is and appears that the deer is GUT SHOT, thus the true answer to WHERE the deer should be shot is WRONG in my opinion. I've shot a deer that far back once because I pulled the shot, and that was a long and challenging trail. I found the deer dead the next morning after waiting 8 hours and going back and finding her still alive. Sorry PAT, but I have to disagree with the placement 100%. I've only killed 30 or so deer with a bow and all but a small handful have died in sight because of GOOD shot placement.
if he shot and hit at the correct spot, "B", they wouldn't have had to watch a dying deer all day. They could have walked over to a dead deer 30 seconds after the shot. A deers lungs/heart are further up in the chest and i would aim for in front of the far-leg at that angle, not behind or in line with it.
for all of you that commented on the shot choice and made fun of the comments about that being the the right shot choice , the proof is in the pudding , if it was the right shot then the deer would have been dead after 30 min , it wasnt , so again its not about right and wrong its all about what they did , if the shot would have been a little further forward the deer would have died a little quicker , so i will stick with my original answer on shot placement , it might not have been the best choice but it obviously wasnt any worse than the one taken
Now I know why I see so many shoulder/brisket wounds. Everyone apparently likes to aim just behind the NEAR shoulder on quartering away shots!
ROTFLMAO- Less than 50% can follow simple instruction!
pat has done it again! great stuff. while i said earlier i disagreed with the "correct" shot, this is pat's game and he's shot a ton of critters and knows what he is talking about. take note, the game is not over! don't know what's next, but something is up his sleeve!
Tick, tick, tick........LOL
@ wolfgang510. I know I have a tough time placing the arrow high enough on treestand, or other elevated shots.
IMO this arrow turned slightly on contact, causing less damage than expected. Curious also as to the broadhead choice.
# 4 was a tough one...I could swear I could see a bedded deer with his head up in one of the photos but not possible after seeing the correct answere unless the deer I see is a different deer.
wolfgang , in my opinion if a deer is quartered that sharp you cant aim to come out behind the opposite shoulder either , thats to far back , i personaly would have shattered the opposite shoulder , have done it many of times with great results , it hits vitals and breaks them down , never had one go far doing it , have seen my share of half rotted deer in the woods from shots that were to far back
He normally tell us the gear that was used: bow,arrows, broadheads, etc. Can't find it this time
Well, one softball clue today! Two to go. Now the question is: do they have to finish him off??? Does he get up and run off again??? So far we are scant on "bloodtrail". LOL
ARGG! Won't let me give an answer. Just error message comes up. No problem going elsewhere on site. Anyone else having the same problem?
bowdoc , yes its his game , dont care how many critters hes shot , it was the wrong shot choice , and the deer not being dead after a half an hour is proof of that , gutshot is gutshot , no matter how many critters youve killed
Txhunter I am having the same problem as well.
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oh and after you guys do this will you please head over to my thread "nice 8, score?" and give your opinon ?! thanks
I think that deer was hit in the liver, maybe nicked a lung. I bet the broadhead is a muzzy phantom 2 blade.. after 90 minutes, it has to be nearly expired..Just a few more inches forward and deer is dead in 30 seconds...
Nijamsu and Ryanrc +1. The editorial explanation for the shot selection reads that it was the right choice, 'without question', but the rest of the events up to now have shown a different result. However, I am waiting for the examination of the vitals.
pleaaaaassseeee score !!!
Looking forward to the conclusion. I'm guessing there's something interesting to see.
I like this challenge better than some of the others, it's more of a what do you do next, without trying to throw curve balls. Regarding the binoculars, I can see why he waited because you want to get another arrow knocked and be ready in case the deer steps in an opening. I saw some of the same black, white and tan areas if the first series of pictures, and I usually don't do that good in the 'find the deer' in the photo, but then I saw the main beam. If all goes well I may get my first pefect score.
I believe if deer had been shot in choice "E" (or in my case B LOL) the deer would not still be alive 90 minutes later. Staying quiet and still after a liver hit is always your best choice. Takes a bit longer but worth the wait. Great job guys!
I don't see how C can be the correct answer for Clue #1 when it was obviously hit in the guts and lived for an hour and 40 minutes because of it. ?
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I'm surprised the deer lived that long. It looked like a good shot to me. Must've just been a few inches too far back.
BAD - the actual shot hit right in Area "C", and since the deer lived so long after the shot how can it be the best possible shot choice? Cannot have been heart or double lung, which is what we are all taught. Lucky this was a daylight recovery because if the shot was at last light, watching twitches and kicks for an hour would have been impossible.
GOOD - given the shot taken, this was still a great recovery. Had they tracked early the deer would likely have been jumped and possibly lost. There are always lessons to be learned in these bloodtrailing challenges, even if we argue about some of the answer selection. Thanks Pat.
Thanks for the second photo glunt. It gives a great visual perspective on why this happened.
The more I look at that, I think anyone who chose the "Right" answer on the shot placement should have their hunting license REVOKED!!! I can't believe that straight LIVER/PAUNCH is considered the best shot when you've got an open into the LEFT LUNG, HEART, and the front tip of the RIGHT LUNG with a good LOW exit point to boot!!! Opinions may vary, but that deer shot in point B is dead before it gets out of sight, and I've taken it at least 10x with that exact result!!!
Now I am pretty sure what the last question will be, and the hardest one yet: "what organs did the arrow pass through?"
Still waiting for an actual "bloodtrail" question on this one. However, it is nice when you don't have to find a deer by bloodtrail...
Were going to hear a lot of whining from the "experts" when the what organs were hit question comes up.
I'm curious to know what broadhead was used. Due to the angle I can't disagree with the shot placement. Maybe a tad more forward, but I don't like hugging the shoulder. How do we know that shot C was where he actually hit?
I personally lost a deer once on quarter away when I hit too close to the crease behind shoulder (it was 26 years ago and still learning).The only thing I can say about this shot is that the camera may show quarter away but perhaps the shooter was not quite as quartering away as the pictures depict. I have hit countless deer in spot C on that same angle and always watched a quick death within sight with perfect dbl lung and pass through, so I am very perplexed by this one... The deer died from a liver shot for sure, not sure if it got any lung since it took so long. I will say an even more lethal shot I've made often is even more quartering away and entering just past hind quarter and pinning the opposite front shoulder. No pass through but death comes quickly with not much need for blood trail. I really do like quartering away shots in general, especially when I stay away from front shoulder.
Well I tricked myself because I gave what I thought the "Pat" answer would be (wait 3 hrs to be safe) instead of my own answer-cost me the perfect score. :)
I actually wouldn't have picked any of the choices, MY shot would have been more centered in the A-B-C triangle. C looks like a high Diapram, paunch hit, with a possible liver nick. I am very interested in the choice of Broadhead on this shot!
I think we are still in for some surprises. Go back and watch the shot video again. Stop it and play/pause/play/pause from 45 sec to 47 seconds. That shot and the angle of entry looks pretty good to me. I am still not sure how that buck lived as long as he did.
And remember one more thing: that shot was made by a 12 year old who harvested his first buck that ran less than 100 yards after the shot. Pretty dang good!
Shot C is why that deer lived so long..liver and one lung or guts... B would have done the job much quicker and smoked the heart lung area.
I shot a buck in the same spot once. It traveled thru the paunch,liver and 1 lung, It had just about the same result the deer was alive 2 hrs later. He didn't go far.
I'll be extremely shocked if the result is not paunch, liver, back of right lung. And I'll bet the holes in the liver and right lung are fairly minor wounds. The two deer I've hit in the liver bleed out in sight in less than five minutes.
I am no expert on any of this. I just wanted to say thank you to Pat for doing this. I am quite sure he has other things to do with his time.
If I ever get the chance to meet meet you, the beer is on me!
Thanks again.
I'm yelling at him. I think the deer is dead, and I don't want to wait three hours. I also don't want to spook him and have him run into the next county when I walk up to him. Maybe I should go back and eat that candy bar I passed up earlier.
I've been looking forward to the last clue all day! Where is it!!
Makes no sense to me how this deer survived that long.
I replayed that video several times and just can't believe this happened. Are we sure Matt didn't use his target arrow since it seems to have different colored fletching than the arrows in his quiver?
What i noticed is that the arrow didn't look like it passed all the way through, from my past experiences for some reason i believe they take a little long to bleed out with out that exit hole???????
Pat must be camping again...:)
FYI animals hit in one lung can survive. It is harder for buffalo but not so much for deer do to anatomy differences.
Many good comments. I would be interested in knowing what head it was. As I said, after the first question, liver-lung. I have shot a bunch of them there. Very typical...but usually they run further. And a good lesson for everyone to learn from. Shoot low and right above the front leg. Thanks Pat, and Matt for sharing.
I think you should have given partial credit to wait over the carcass and shoot a coyote on Question #7. Not the best answer, but an option.
Thanks for the Blood trail my son and myself love answering the questions together and provides a valuable training aide for both of us. We both thoguht the deer panting was most likely the second deer in the video which just bedded with the dead buck. Can't believe the deer survived nealry that long. We both would of expected hte deer to perish in less than 5 minutes. Keep it up and thanks for sharing.
Congrats on your deer Matt!
SDstringer - I would recommend a different training tool for shot placement for your son unless you want him to experience slow painful death. If C was the best answer he could come up with he should have had his son wait for a better shot after all this is a 12 year old kid shooting at a steep downward angle at a hard quartering away angle and it is his first buck. Very poor judgement in my book Pat.
congrats on the deer Matt !!!!
I had fun! Thanks Pat and Matt.
Congrats Matt
Thanks Pat
Another one wrong challenge for me, someday I'll get them all correct.
Strange how Pat still won't admit to B being a better shot choice, even after the final results.
The only explanation I can come up with is that the tree is blocking so much of the near shoulder that the brain is telling the viewer that the back edge of that tree is the front of the deer, when there is actually at least 8" of animal to the left of the tree line yet. If we could see the whole deer, then "B" would seem much further back than it seems in that picture.
With the hind legs in line with each other, and the head/neck turned sharply , I also have to wonder if the deer is much more broadside than it is "steep quartering" as Pat describes.
If "E" really is the best shot location, then I would move "E" to a spot between "A" and "B". Any arrow put into the left lung on that deer, would also hit the right lung on that deer. Never give away the near lung!
The scoring is irrelevant IMO in this one.
This is one of the best if/then scenarios and a heck of an educational opportunity.
I have not seen a better illustration of the criticality of shot placement and after shot decisions than this blood trail. Had that deer run out of sight and hearing distance, I would bet many would have bumped him prior to his death.
Great video and after shot discussion.
Dead on Candor. Sitting there w' the camera to review the hit, I may bumped that deer 'cause I would have been out of the stand to quickly.
I add one caveat. At the close distances involved, I would have expected to hear the death throes of the deer, as were experienced by Matt and Pat, when the deer finally expired. Not hearing the thrashing, I MAY have sat tight, and gotten the binos, out. Ohhh, wait, I've got a couple of k$ worth the video gear w' a big lens on it. Maybe I'd use that. ;-D
I don't question this being part of the blood trailing series though Pat kinda apologizes for it not having actual blood trailing in it. Heck, it's the ones WITHOUT blood that are tough!!
Thanks Pat. That was a lot of fun.
Thanks. This hunt not being "text book" makes it more relevant and helpful. Congrats to Matt on the nice buck.
Congratulations Matt! And thanks Pat for the challenge. It took me 31 of them to get a perfect score.
I agree with xman. The shot at B is a dead dear within seconds. You at least hit the near lung and the heart and probably the front of the right lung too.
I have done a lot of these things over the years and this is the very first time I have guessed perfectly :) Either I'm lucky or getting into Pat's head. At any rate, I cannot wait to hear that crunch-crunch-crunch of a deer coming in on a crisp November morning!
Elk hunting next week will have to tide me over :)
okay, why wouldn't I shoot the Coyote? I'm pretty sure I would.;) I missed that one and I fell for the carefully worded trick question. I should have known better.
Nevermind. I need to read more carefully. It's an as yet to appear coyote. What a moron.
Its the first time i scored a perfect score and the game is fun. I enjoy looking for these games to play.
I made perfect score first time out. I'm thinking Matt learned good lesson on shot choice & placement.
Perfect score, except for the first question. I still don't understand how C is the correct shot placement, when it took 2 hours for the deer to expire. If that is the correct shot, then this fall we should all shoot for the stomach, liver, and only one lung.
PT2, read the "explanation" in the last clue. Then go back and read the first clue carefully. The question was not which was the best possible shot (aiming point)
on the deer, but which of the 4 choices offerred were best. Honestly, I would have aimed right where the shot hit, and was amazed that such a poor outcome was realized.
I learned a lot from this exercise and will re-think quartering away shots in future.
The only thing I see with option C for the shot compared to the actual photo is it looks a little further back & higher. 2 down & 2 forward to me would be a C shot & more lung I would like to here from Matt did the arrow hit exactly where he aimed or does he feel it was not the spot he picked? It doesn't matter after the shot Matt did the right things to recover that deer. Great job Matt & congrats. Matt hope you mounted the skull at least. The old man put you on the chopping block & your taking it like a man. I think I would tell some of these guys go to hell!!!
I haven't heard any body put Matt on the block, I think everyone was happy for him. Dad is the one on the chopping block here. By the way Pipe if you think gut shooting a deer is textbook I would hate to hunt in your camp. The fact is it was a poorly placed shot due to the steep angles down and quartering away and it would have been much better to wait for a better shot angle or passed the deer up. It was not an accident that this deer was gut shot. They handled the after shot well, but they put themselves in that position by taking a poor shot to begin with
I am with Pat 100% on staying away from the shoulder. I have had my own boughts with shoulder shots and have lost a couple deer due to it. It was shooting those video shoots that started me hugging the shoulder, because when I started out I was taught to aim for the center of the vitals, which is pretty much the center of the lungs. I don't like shooting 3D targets due to the 10 ring, it's a subconscious thing when you aren't hitting the bullseye. I like to use my own cardboard sillouhettes with the vitals drawn in with a pencil so you can't see them from a distance.
Matt, I think you did an awesome job! If one of my kids did it exactly like that, I would be proud as hell!
I was 15 when I arrowed my first buck, and let me just say, that you made a heck of a better shot than I did!
I can see that you are going to have many years of success ahead of you!
Best of Luck, Jeff
As the deer quarters away, the point of aim must move back also. If you use the offside leg as a point of reference, this happens naturally. If you are high above the deer, you may not be able to see the offside leg! If you crowd the shoulder on a quartering away shot, you risk catching just the fwd part of one lung.
So while I would have prefered "E", "C" didn't look that bad to me.
On the quartering away shot the arrow may cut some paunch, but you also get liver, lungs, and maybe other big arteries and veins. It's a shot I'll take anytime. This was a strange event.
Just 2 years ago I took a similar shot on a deer, and had the arrow stopped from passing though by the offside leg, just above the elbow. Full penetration, but just a tiny blade slit on the off side because of the leg stopping the arrow.
No matter how you look at it, I think everyone is surprised that the deer lived that long. It looked to be excellent in terms of shot placement.
No matter how you look at it, I think everyone is surprised that the deer lived that long. It looked to be excellent in terms of shot placement.
I feel like I need to mention something that has not been brought up yet. A big reason for me to stay back from the shoulder, and to shoot for the arrow to exit behind the opposite shoulder, is that I HATE to ruin meat. I am not a "big buck" hunter, but a meat hunter. I have a wife and four kids rooting me me to come home with meat, not antlers. If that arrow goes into the back side of that opposite leg, most of that meat is ruined.
Matt is the shooter here. That makes him responsible for what ever went down & I think he knows that. If he aimed for b or e or what ever it was he still would of hit c I think in this case. point is in my 30 years of bow hunting I think I only hit the hair I was aiming for twice its always of 1 or 2 " off. My first kill with a bow at 13 was about the same scenario but I was in a old wood built stand about 12' of the ground with the deer at 30 & turned the other way The deer ran like hell up a steep ridge with others. to make a long story short the buck ended up in a pond dead & I had to go for a swim in Oct. I learned allot that day at that angle I was only off 2 to 3" at 30 yards with open sights Its part of the learning curve so for me I avoid that angle although with my new Mathews WITH PINS I know I can make that shot. I will surender my Lic. first thing tomorrow!!!!!!!!
As an inexperienced hunter I lost one deer and almost lost another on shoulder hits. "Toxic",as Pat said,is the best way to describe them.
I lost one in the shoulder at 35 yards with a 50 Cal. round ball & 100 gains of pyrodex. looked for three days found only drops of blood & beds. After 3 days going in circles I lost the trail. I still can't believe that one. And no there was no hang fire. Toxic yes unless riffle or shotgun.
Guy's, I don't even think the near shoulder is in play here, most if not all of the shoulder bone is behind the tree in that picture.
I'd rather miss forward and hit the hard shoulder/leg bone, and have the deer live, than miss back and gut shoot and risk no recovery. At least that's what I teach in the hunters Ed class.
I wish I had photoshop so I could show you guys where the shoulder is in relation to that tree. 95% of it is hidden from our view, only a very small portion just in front of "A" would be in play. I'd bet my truck that location "B" is at least six inches from heavy bone.
What kind of truck! OK so the kid f-ed up a little but he finished the job He is 12. People twice his age cant Finnish any job that's what I teach. As far as where the bone is I hope we all know that. I know I do I worked as a butcher for 4 years. Like they say those that cant do will teach!!!!!!!!!
The big question is paunch-liver one lung ethical or not?
No, Matt was perfect. He did exactly what he was taught. Problem is, he was taught not exactly right. Not "wrong", but not exactly right. Pat has a long history of aiming too far back, and there's plenty of proof over the years right here on this site.
What fun would these games be if he hit where he's supposed to all the time? ;)
I think Matt will learn from this and aim a few inches farther forward on that shot next time.
x-man I don't agree. I would bet 'A' is located directly on the top of the scapula, but if not it's near the location where the back bone starts to come down. Either way you are hitting bone with A and you will not take out both lungs. Or it's near that mythical void area, whichever you believe. With 'B' it's not the bone to the left of it, but also the bone near the bottom of it. With 'B' you still may not get both lungs, but be to the left an inch or two and you will most definately not get both lungs.
I have some very interesting stories about recovering and not recovering game when the arrow was placed to far forward inside the chest cavity, then ones that were a little too far back.
I can't believe you condone hitting a deer in the shoulder and quite possibly pro-longing its death, even if it's a few months when winter sets in, then a gut shot deer that will die within 24 hours due to blood poisoning, and in most cases less. I believe your odds of recovering a gut shot deer are far greater than a shoulder shot deer, even if you nicked the heart, lung or some other artery. A gut/stomach shot deer feels sick and will lie down, just like Matt's deer did. A shoulder shot deer will feel the trauma of something solid hitting it and likely won't bed down right away unless the shot is fatal. Don't assume that a shoulder shot deer does not die. A neighbor found one of my shoulder shot deer a few weeks later during the gun season. It stopped dripping blood after 200 yards and I found one spot of blood another 100 yards after crossing a field. We searched the river bottom it headed to. The deer traveled another 300 yards from where the last blood was. He went up river a ways, crossed another field and was found near a swamp. My arrow had about 5"-6" of penetration and I thought the buck the lived. Problem was, the neighbor didn't tell me he found it until 2 years later.
The problem is, unless you are out West with sparse cover, you won't find many deer if they put some distance between you and them. You won't lose a gut shot pronghorn, but if you hit one in the shoulder you better get another arrow in it and really your only option is to more or less just go after him until he tires enough to stand withing bow range for your second shot. On my first pronghorn my first arrow was in front of the leg bone, but still inside the chest cavity. It litterally passed thought both sides of the chest cavity, about as far forward as you can go. But I still had to shoot him with another arrow. He had bedded down a couple not far from me, but he would lie down for 20 minutes then get up and walk slowly, then bed down again. He had some spunk when I set out on foot after him, but after an hour or so I was able to get another arrow in him.
The point is I would much rather miss my mark further back then being too far forward. If you don't recover a forward hit animal, you won't know if the animal is alive or dead. It will be dead if it's hit too far back. Whoever said a rifle and shotgun will penetrate the shoulder is wrong when it comes to the shotgun. You hit the ball and socket joint with a slug, it won't penetrate that, and neither will all rifles.
Knife2sharp, I think that you could argue that C is more risky than B. Aim for B and hit forward and that deer probably lives with a mangled up shoulder. Aim for C and hit further back than intended and that deer is dying a slow death somewhere it may never be found. The correct shot is E really and I hope that Matt learns this from this experience.
x-man, I don't think the front shoulder is the one we're concerned about. It's the opposite one.
Heritage,
No, Pat is worried about the near shoulder, he aims for the off shoulder. He said in the comments(after the last answer) that "B" was too close to the near shoulder.
"x-man I don't agree. I would bet 'A' is located directly on the top of the scapula, but if not it's near the location where the back bone starts to come down. Either way you are hitting bone with A and you will not take out both lungs. Or it's near that mythical void area, whichever you believe. With 'B' it's not the bone to the left of it, but also the bone near the bottom of it. With 'B' you still may not get both lungs, but be to the left an inch or two and you will most definitely not get both lungs."
Three inches left of "B" will still get more lung than "C" did. Pat's autopsy proved that. In order to hit bone low of "B" you would be so low that you may not hit vitals anyway(that "elbow" is pretty darn low and travels forward to the shoulder knuckle, not up).
"B" is between rib 7 and rib 8
You guys are talking about hitting forward or back, but what about high or low? If anything, a deer will begin to drop at the shot, and that makes the B or D shots best in my opinion.
Damn, yall would give a U. S. Sniper a hard time on were his bullet hit and killed his victim. GOOD JOB MATT! mIKe
I got em all! it was muh lucky hat done it!
DM/wolfskin as a matter of fact i bet if a us sniper shot his target and it ran off and it took him almost 2 hours to die you can bet that he would catch hell. bad comparison on your part
Not a bad comparison, petedrummond. You miss the point. A shot between the eyes wouldn't be good enough for some on here.Mike
I can't believe some of the debate. I ALWAYS aim for just inside opposite shoulder on quarter away shots and it's never failed me. The one time I went to far forward I lost the deer. If this buck was hit just an inch or two forward it's double lung.
My NJ 8 pointer last year and NJ 9 point the year before were at extreme qtr away angles, so I aimed for very last rib and pinned the opposite shoulder. Both deer dead within 40 yards. I love quarter away shots.
The only mistakes made here were not giving Matt a candy bar while waiting and not taking out binoculars right away. They should have been out already just from hunting...
I disagree with your answer to question #3 I think you should have had the binoculars out within the first 15 to 30 minutes. Depending on where the buddy was it was time after an hour has gone by to txt him to see if he has seen or heard any movement where he was and explain what had taken place,so yes to binos but way before an hour has transpired. But thats just my take,and congrats Matt.
very similiar to a doe I killed last year. Sitting there and watching her die was difficult. It was hard to just "do nothing"
Good job Pat and Matt for making the right choices in the field!
The correct answer to clue 2 is BS. D is just as good as any. Who says we have binoculars and can ever see the deer through the brush. You going to sit there forever. With that shot, after one hour the deer isn't going to spook and run off ease. I've shot deer like this and after waiting a good period (1 hour or more), you can easily quietly walk to within sighting him bedded and fish him off if needed.
These Bloodtrails are always fun. My only critique is that once again, there's a question (number 4) where only the photographer could really know for sure the correct answer. There are objects in each tiny, slightly unfocused photo that could just as easily look like a deer to any reasonable experienced hunter from this perspective. It's really just a guess question, no matter how good someone's eyes are or what their skill as a woodsman might be. There is nothing about question 4 that challenges anyone's hunting skill.
These Bloodtrails are always fun. My only critique is that once again, there's a question (number 4) where only the photographer could really know for sure the correct answer. There are objects in each tiny, slightly unfocused photo that could just as easily look like a deer to any reasonable experienced hunter from this perspective. It's really just a guess question, no matter how good someone's eyes are or what their skill as a woodsman might be. There is nothing about question 4 that challenges anyone's hunting skill.
No complaints from me...first 100% bloodtrail for me!! LOL.
Okay, I think I've gone through every Bloodtrail on Bowsite over the past few years. I do love them, despite my varying ability to achieve a perfect score.(Some wicked little tricks in some of 'em!) I just arrowed my second doe of the season, here on my GA public land archery area. I will say this: after 23 years of hunting there (and in other places), I am so glad, I've never had a bloodtrail like some of the ones Pat has had to follow! My longest personal tracking job, so far, was about 275 yards, which could have been tracked by an 8 year-old. (Not counting a 300 yard turkey tracking job that left no trail.) I'm hoping things don't change. Nevertheless, Bloodtrails make me think... or at least wonder. Keep them coming! Looking forward to number 32!
