ANTI-HUNTING ALERT ... CAMPING WORLD!
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From: snellpastor
16-Mar-12

snellpastor's Link
To all my fellow hunters ...

Camping World has just pulled their support for "Celebrity Apprentice" due to the fact that Donald Trump's son went hunting. It is time to let them know we will be pulling our business from them.

You may do so by going to the link on this post. Here is what I wrote. Please join me and let them know such a stance - especially by a company dedicated to the outdoors - will hurt them directly in the pocketbook.

Here is my post:

Dear Camping World,

Please know that as both an avid camper AND an avid hunter, you will no longer be getting my business due to your stance against against hunting. Hunters are key conservationists. They feed themselves and many others (often the homeless and poor). Each year hunters pour millions of dollars into local economies and, through their fees and licenses, pay for the expansion of wildlife habitat, the growth of key species populations, and the protection of endangered wildlife from poaching and other dangers. Due to hunters, whitetail deer populations are higher than when Columbus discovered America, Elk herds are growing, and game bird populations thrive. Hunters do this all at no burden to the American people, in ways that create jobs and, at the same time, without the need to increase taxes in order to raise the funds which would be needed to underwrite the work they willingly do - and pay to do. I am extremely disappointed in you pulling your endorsement from Celebrity Apprentice over Mr. Marcus Lemonis' misguided view on hunting and therefore exercise my right, as a consumer, to express my displeasure pulling all of my business from you until Mr. Lemonis educates himself about the vital role hunting plays in wildlife conservation and refers his efforts to bully people into an anti-hunting stance.

Sincerely, Tim Snell Appleton, WI.

From: Firehuntfish
16-Mar-12
Snellpastor, Thanks for bringing this to light. I hope everyone here takes the time to send an email and actually withholds their business from Camping World...

From: buskill
16-Mar-12
Sent...

From: buskill
16-Mar-12
People these days only understand money..withold some from them and they will take notice. Why would these idiots want to bow down in an attempt to be "PC", when the act itself only pleases the left wing urbanites that don't buy their products ?

16-Mar-12
Sent! I will not support them, now that I think of it I never did anyway. Screw them! Go Trumps! JJ

From: city hunter
16-Mar-12
We as hunters have many places to buy products these days ,, If this company is so against us hunters then I think its time we spend out monies at othere places...

From: HockeyDad
16-Mar-12
Sent...

From: Hoyt Shooter
16-Mar-12
Done

From: Owl
16-Mar-12
Not a Trump fan but I sent a reply nonetheless.

16-Mar-12
Here is their responce to my letter:

To clarify our position, Camping World as America’s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, in our opinion, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose.

Thank you, Camping World Customer Care

FYI.............JJ

From: T43
16-Mar-12
Sent

From: wild1
16-Mar-12
email sent

From: keith
16-Mar-12
Here's mine:

Camping World:

Let me get this straight. You are a retailer of outdoor equipment and, because adult children of a T.V. show owner went to Africa to legally hunt animals, you pulled your ad support from the T.V. show? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Do you know that most of your customers support hunting? Do you know that hunters were the first and still are the only true conservationists? As a supporter of legal hunting throughout the world, I will not be a supporter of any business that does not support hunting.

Thank-you for your time.

From: Hoyt Shooter
16-Mar-12
My response from them was the same as jerseyjohn. Seems like an automated reply. What exactly did they hunt in Africa to make Camping World think it was endangered? Also, if it is at risk in certain areas, it must not have been where they hunted. It wouldn't have been allowed.

From: sundowner
16-Mar-12
Sent. Thanks for the alert.

16-Mar-12
"We are for personal choice ..."

Yep. And one of my personal choices is to no longer do business with Camping World.

From: Drelk
16-Mar-12
Done

From: Teeton
16-Mar-12
My letter to C-W.

As business owner servicing R-V . I am pulling my support of Camping World and will recommend to all my customers not to support Camping World.... The reason is that I and most of my customers support and hunt and you do not. Respectfully Ed Rogalski

From: Bigpizzaman
16-Mar-12
DONE!

From: Chubby Tuna
16-Mar-12
Email sent:

I realize that it is your option as a company to endorse whomever you wish and I am quite dissapointed in your recent decision to pull all advertising from the Apprentice television show. I too will exercise my freedom of choice and no longer support your company with my buisness. As a photographer and journalist I will also exercise my freedom of speech and go out of my way to NOT endorse your company and I will make it a point to disuade people from your services and products. As a side note, your PR person needs a memo of who your core clientele is.

Follow up response:

Mr. Latter,

To clarify our position, Camping World as America’s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, in our opinion, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose.

From: SOMI
16-Mar-12
Done

From: Bake
16-Mar-12
I sent an email as well, pointing out that they were not hunting endangered animals. Zimbabwe actually has an elephant overpopulation problem and offer many cow hunts to deal with such problem

People and companies need to get their facts straight.

Bake

From: Turk
16-Mar-12
Thanks for the heads up, e-mail sent!

From: Firehuntfish
16-Mar-12
Just wanted to add that you don't have to be a Donald Trump fan to support this boycott of Camping World. His sons are under fire by the Antis and the liberal left, and this company is taking it out on him. Additionally, his son's are both avid, life-long hunters. We need to support them in this attack which is an attack on all of us who hunt,fish,trap,and enjoy the outdoors. It's an attack on our chosen way of life...

Here's the link to the only positive article I have found. It's from the NRA magazine..

http://www.nrahuntersrights.org/Article.aspx?id=6266

From: Florida Mike
16-Mar-12
I just sent this;

"I'm very dissapointed with your stance on the Trump boys legally hunting african game. Your information about the killing of endangered species is incorrect. Its ashamed you don't have better control over your company. I will not purchase anything from Camping World until your policy toward legal hunting changes." Mike

From: WylieCoyote
16-Mar-12
I sent the email...thanks for the "heads up."....If you go to the main Camping World website...scroll to the very bottom and click on "contact"...easy to send it from there.

Joe

From: samman
16-Mar-12
Sent.

From: Gunny
16-Mar-12
My email...

This is in regards to your company pulling advertising/support from Donald Trump's TV show, "Celebrity Apprentice".

Are you serious? Did anyone on your staff do any home work? If so, you need to provide me with better information as to why you are doing this! Because resaons stated do not support your actions.

You are most likely being bombarded by sportsman & outdoorsman, concerning thier displeasure and outrage over this matter. Know that any percieved infringement on our way of life will envoke this type of response. And we will respond!

I therefore will go out of my way to stop any and all business with your company and the products you sell. In addition, I will encourage everyone I know to do likewise until you wise up and realize what you just did to all Sportsman!

From: YZF-88
16-Mar-12
Thanks for pointing this out. This does pertain to me since I am actively researching my first camper purchase (and associated equipment).

From: Medicine Bow
16-Mar-12
Email sent.

From: trkytrack
16-Mar-12
Sent.

16-Mar-12
Isn't Bass Pro Shops aligned with Camping World somehow?

From: StrutNut
16-Mar-12
email sent

From: jeck66
16-Mar-12
Email Seent

From: bighorn
16-Mar-12
Email sent! Yes we all have to stand up to these Anti's and let them know how we feel. This is along the same line's as qdma attacking high fence hunting it's a person's personal choice and property rights, and all hunter's have to stand together to fight these anti's. Whether we agree or not we have to stand together.

16-Mar-12
sent

From: PinePoint
16-Mar-12
Sent

From: noodle2000
16-Mar-12
Kelly Harris here,

I just sent them a note telling them I would never purchase from them again.

16-Mar-12
In addition, if they were hunting elephants, my understanding the income derived and the meat from these animals legally taken has a major positive impact on the local community. How do they respond to that?

16-Mar-12
Done

From: Don
16-Mar-12
Done

16-Mar-12
Snell Pastor and Guys, Thanks for the heads up, sent my reply below on their website as you suggested.

Dear Camping World Leadership, I just heard you have made the decision to stop sponsoring a TV show (Celebrity Apprentice) because the star of the show has a grown son that legally hunted game in Africa and furthermore your company is spreading blantant untruths that the game was endangered. Your fact finding efforts before making your decision is appalling and unprofessional. Your company has made a ridiculous and detrimental decision. So therefore you have made your stance, we will be making ours. From now on, I nor none of my family will be patronizing your establishments, nor your online stores. As a matter of fact I am an RV'er also and club member of several RV organizations with thousands of members, (one of which is the Good Sam Club among others). My fellow sportsmen and RV'ers plan on communicating your actions over many websites and spread the word over the internet. Your company not supporting sportsman, is a decision not to support the very group that is responsible for the best wildlife recovery and wildlife habitat success story the world has ever known. I sincerly hope your leadership will reconsider their hasty decision and publically offer a formal appology. That is the only way your company will ever get it's respect and good name back. Think about it. Do you really want to wear this kind of distasteful reputation with the public ?

From: tjsna
16-Mar-12
I think what they (camping world)are referring to as endangered species is Leopard.

I did see a picture somewhere of one of the trump boys holding a really nice dead leopard guess that is what got CW up in arms.

Personally I wish it where I holding that dead leopard,Had to be fun.

e-mail sent!!!

From: gobbler
16-Mar-12
e-mail sent

From: snapcrackpop
16-Mar-12
This is in regards to you pulling your ads on the Celebrity Apprentice.

Do you realize that the great majority of campers are also sportsmen and women that HUNT???

I will not support your business because you have taken sides with the ridiculous anti-hunting community.

Enjoy your veggie burger and "patent leather".

From: Firehuntfish
16-Mar-12
Did anyone get a reply from Camping World yet?

This is the reply i just received....

Mr. Leahy, to clarify our position, Camping World, as America's Largest Outdoor Company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is not against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, in our opinion, if and when the hunting of endagered species occurs, whether in the U.S. or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid hunters. We will remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands, and the freedom to choose.

Thank you, Camping World Customer Care

Did anyone receive the exact same email? I was wondering if they are sending out a form response....

These people are unbelievably stupid! I hope we can collectively bankrupt them...Keep the emails going...

From: tonyo6302
16-Mar-12
Email sent.

From: StickFlicker
16-Mar-12

StickFlicker's Link
e-mail sent, and I suggested that if they really had any desire to educate themselves as to who the truly successful conservationists have been in history, they should watch the 20/20 episode that was done on the topic (see link). It explains in a totally unbiased format how hunting for threatened species has had infinitely more success than any non-hunting preservation strategy that has ever been attempted!

From: Bugle
16-Mar-12
Email sent and I received the same canned response. Nice.

From: Jumpman
16-Mar-12
E-mail sent.

16-Mar-12
email sent.

From: TD
16-Mar-12
Pat..... I'm betting they will make one of the biggest mistakes in their company's PR history..... you will get a copy of the same form letter as everyone else.

email sent.

From: Jumpman
16-Mar-12
I just called a local store to find out if they are aware of the situation. I was forwarded to someones voicemail and I left a long message. I really do not think the CEO understands what a huge mistake this is. We will see.

From: HuntinHabit
16-Mar-12
Email sent.

This is going to hurt business. 8^)

16-Mar-12
Uh-oh! Do the NASCAR Camping World Series fans know about this. I'm gonna miss not attending Camping World events. I'd bet most NASCAR fans are hunters. Just a guess.

From: Ron Reddon
16-Mar-12

Ron Reddon's Link
For those who actually use Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/campingworld

From: Earltex
16-Mar-12
Done

I will spread the word.

From: Cola Blanca
16-Mar-12
SENT.

From: Millsie
16-Mar-12
Done!

From: Bugle
16-Mar-12
I was reading throught the FB posts. Its hilarious. Obviously C.W. is deleting any negative posts and keeping the supporting posts. The informed people is astounding to say the least. Unfortunately, they can vote and that really scares me.

From: ORarcheryboy
16-Mar-12
Sent.

From: LBshooter
16-Mar-12
Done and posted on other sites.

From: Teeton
16-Mar-12
Camp World or face book pulled my post on C-W's face book page. Time to start emailing nascar and not support advertisers on their truck racing.

Camping World is the name of nascar's truck racing program....

We must let nascar know how we feel!!!!

From: HoytsDad
16-Mar-12
Congratulations, you have lost my buisness for your anithunting position. I will encourage others to buy elsewhere. Good job in the worst economy ever.

16-Mar-12
Sent and posted on Facebook!

Some people (tree huggers) are clueless!

Shoot Str8 and Stay Safe

Jeff

From: dakotaduner
17-Mar-12
My letter

As a hunter and fisherman, as well as a loyal Nascar fan I am disgusted with your decision, and view of hunting and conservation.

I have been a loyal member of your Presidents club, for my hunting and camping supplies, I have now impeached myself from your Presidents club and will by my products elsewhere

Kyle

From: noodle2000
17-Mar-12
Kelly Harris here I am thinking we start a Facebook page Camping World Sucks! or Camping World dislikes hunters?

Then when hunters and fishermen google or do a Facebook search for camping supplies hopefully they will see the Facebook page????

Thoughts???

From: Owl
17-Mar-12
I received the same canned response as everyone else.

Pat, my hat is off to you. The business of living is leverage. Thanks for using yours.

From: TNBowhunter
17-Mar-12
This type of action in response to anti-hunting companies makes me proud. They obviously do not realize the impact hunters have on their sales and therefore we should have more of a voice on all anti-hunting issues. Go Bowsite and every poster on here!

Pat Lefemine for President!

From: noodle2000
17-Mar-12
OK I didn't even think about the Facebook page but i just posted this there.

I have over 1500 Facebook friends and over 200 linked in contacts all that are either into hunting and fishing.

"""Camping World I own a 36ft. Raptor 5th wheel and another 24 ft. 5th wheel both solely used to camp while I hunt!!!

Listen carefully I will never repeat never purchase a single product for your company....

I honestly believe your hasty decision will create very poor downfall for your company.

I have no idea who in your senior leadership team made this decision but I would think at least one of you would have looked to see that there are over 15 million hunters and well over 30 million people who fish per year.

The Trumps did hunt in a legal manner they had a license and permit that allowed them to hunt every single one of those animals.

I understand you have a choice who to use for advertising and not to advertise for.

But we as legal ethical hunters (As the Trumps are) have a choice as well. My choice is to never use Camping World again)

Sincerely,

Kelly S. Harris

Avid legal & ethical hunter for 41 years!"""

From: BigWave
17-Mar-12
Right on brother! I saw your post there this morning a few below mine from last night. Nicely done!

I've also sent the emails to Marcus and got the stock reply. I've also made a few comments on their FB page. I also understand that Camping World sponsors a NASCAR team. Is anyone here big NASCAR fans? I don't know which forums are the best or most popular, but it would be great to spread this word on those forums as well. I have to believe that many, many NASCAR fans are hunters and outdoorsmen. and women.

Dave N.

From: t bear
17-Mar-12
sent

17-Mar-12
I got the exact same canned message several other posters have put up. I replied with my reasons for choosing to no longer do business with them. We'll see if they respond ... and if it's with the same canned reply.

From: DWarcher
17-Mar-12
Sent...

17-Mar-12
I'd never heard of them before ... took a look at their website, and they do have a bunch of stuff I could use.

Of course, I'd prefer not to do business with them.

Alternatives?

17-Mar-12
sent

From: Boone
17-Mar-12
This is growing really fast and CW better open their eyes quick as it is hitting them in the pocket book.

From: TJW
17-Mar-12
sent

From: huntin elk
17-Mar-12
sent

From: TJW
17-Mar-12
facebook done also.

From: trevore
17-Mar-12
They keep removing Pro hunting posts from facebook. So obviously they're not pro choice. I'd repost this on every hunting forum you guys visit, if it isn't already up. If it is, bump it to the top

17-Mar-12
Bulls and Bucks; Lots of alternatives out there. If a city is large enough to support CW, then there are bound to be indemendant dealerships. They woun't carry as large of an inventory, so you may have to shop around. I do all my shopping and have my work done by local owned and operated shops.

From: HockeyDad
17-Mar-12
Sent a letter to NASCAR! Wonder if Camping World realizes how many NASCAR drivers and team members are "highlighted" on hunting TV.

I would bet that most NASCAR Owners and Drivers have been to africa and hunted many of those "endagered" species

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/2006-06-07-sw-childress-cover_x.htm

Here is NASCARS email [email protected]

From: AZOnecam
17-Mar-12
Nice job Pat, that's gonna leave a mark for sure.

17-Mar-12
Canceled my club membership! KMA camping world!

From: GameEarGabe
17-Mar-12
This is a fantastic thread. The unity is great

From: tr
17-Mar-12
sent

From: huntingbob
17-Mar-12
Sent!

From: Scooter
17-Mar-12
Here is my letter to NASCAR

To whom it may concern, I has come to my attention that Camping World has pulled out as a sponsor of a the Apprentice because the star ( Trump) kids have killed and hunted animals. From TMZ Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis tells TMZ, the company's TV spots already aired on this season of "Celebrity Apprentice" -- but he insists, "I wouldn't spend another nickel with them."

Marcus adds, "I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them ... Money is spent but wow I'm really shocked."

If this is the case. If Camping World has pulled their money from the Truck series due to "[hunting] pics"...then I will be pulling my money and will not be watching ANY or going to ANY truck races. I would like to request a list of any drivers OR owners that have a direct sponsorship link to Camping world (stickers,hoods, anything) so that I can not make them apart of MY world To thank you WIl

From: Scooter
17-Mar-12
FOR those that missed ....I wanted to see what was reported...here iwhat was on TV From TMZ Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis tells TMZ, the company's TV spots already aired on this season of "Celebrity Apprentice" -- but he insists, "I wouldn't spend another nickel with them."

Marcus adds, "I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them ... Money is spent but wow I'm really shocked."

...so the pics were the problem not just the fact that it was threatened species...

From: bulldreamer
17-Mar-12
Sent

From: Stayfit
17-Mar-12
done

From: BTM
17-Mar-12
I never got a response. Perhaps their PR people are huddling and trying to figure some way to weasel out of this.

From: WestTxhunter
17-Mar-12
Done!

From: keep
18-Mar-12

keep's Link
Pretty good article http://www.examiner.com/rving-in-national/hunters-back-trump-and-threaten-to-boycott-camping-world

From: Outdoordan
18-Mar-12
Excellent article, he pretty much pointed out the flaws in the illogical stance by Mr. Lemonis.

From: antarcher
18-Mar-12
i have written to them also. They will now also lose a big chunk of hunters down here in Australia when I put it on my forum and also in my magazine. I let them know as much and hopefully they will realise just how far reaching the damage on the net can be.

From: Jeremiah
18-Mar-12
Oooops!

Message sent!

Awaiting the arrival of my form letter!

From: jerseyjohn
18-Mar-12
How can we get to hunters in each state and let them know of this and boycott camping world. It would be great if it could get on tv. Maybe the Trumps can do that part. JJ

18-Mar-12
I got my CW catalogue in the mail yesterday and threw it in the trash. My wife who is a hunter and RV owner immediately asked why because she loves their product selection. After I explained, she was as pissed as I have ever seen her get over any issue that didnt involve me doing something I shouldnt have. She is with us!

From: BigWave
18-Mar-12
Pretty good article here.

http://www.examiner.com/rving-in-national/hunters-back-trump-and-threaten-to-boycott-camping-world

From: Medicinemann
18-Mar-12
How many other companies (as previously mentioned....Bass Pro Shop) have business relations with Camping World? As Owl mentioned, since leverage is king....are there other ways that we might expand the notification of this decision even further? Can we notify SCI, P&Y, B&C to make sure that they make all of their members aware of this? Think about it, if we notify the elk foundations, the sheep foundations, the turkey organizations, etc......we WILL make a big difference.

I chuckle at the article which BigWave linked to this thread. It claims that comments on Facebook are evenly divided.....yet people are stating that their comments are not being posted, or are being pulled.....which doesn't support an evenly divided stance.....

I recently accepted an invitation to speak in front of a federation of sportsman.....the gist of this article will now preface my talk.

Jake

18-Mar-12
here's mine from Canada ...

As a active outdoorsman who fully supports conservation in hunting and recreational activities in the outdoors I am very distressed and perplexed that you have boycotted a show for having people legally hunt a non endagered species.

The groups I belong to fully support the protection of endangered species and work hard to conserve game habitat for all species. As a Canadian and conservationist/hunter I have notified all the members of the ATV, hunting, camping and Geocaching groups I belong to and urged all our members, over ten thousand strong, and member associations to not purchase products from your company while we travel and vacation, either online or in store, thoughout your great nation. It is every company's right to market itself in what ever way they deem fit based on their strategy but it is generally in the company's best interest to make decisions based upon facts.

18-Mar-12
email sent. Thanks for the heads up!

From: elmer@laptop
18-Mar-12
you know....if Camping world is pulling pro hunting posts on their facebook page, how about every one of us who has a facebook account starts our own posts and lets everyone of our facebook friends know about this BS that CW is pulling.

From: elmer@laptop
18-Mar-12
I am posting on my facebook page right now!!

From: elmer@laptop
18-Mar-12
Here is what I posted on MY facebook page!

To all my Friends who hunt and use RV's. Alert! please buoycott Camping world and the Camping world/Nascar truck series. They have pulled sponsorship of The Celebrity Apprentice show because Donald Trump's kids LEGALLY hunted and killed animals in Africa.

They are spreading mis-information and lies regarding what happened. They are pulling pro-hunting posts from their facebook page as well as posts that give the true facts of the legality of what the Trump Boys Hunted!

Please write Camping world and Tell them you will never purchase from them again and will never go to or watch a Camping World/nascar truck event, and will tell all your friends who hunt and use RV's to never purchase from Camping world again!

Thanks.

From: Millsie
18-Mar-12
Just e-mailed NASCAR Truck. Don't they realize most of their fan base probably hunt and fish?

From: Medicinemann
18-Mar-12
Just out of curiosity, is Camping World a publicly traded company? If they are, I'll bet that shareholders won't be happy if the stock takes a hit....

From: StickFlicker
18-Mar-12

StickFlicker's Link
Those of you posting this topic on other sites or your own Facebook page, make sure to include the link to make it easy for them to email Camping World.

From: tonyo6302
18-Mar-12
Maybe the CEO of Camping World, also, shoud have consulted the Dixie Chicks prior to opening his pie hole.

From: Nomad
18-Mar-12
sent

From: BigWave
18-Mar-12
Post this everywhere you can think of guys. I have the link to it on my FB page also. Email it to friends, post it on other sites that you might be on. Kick these guys in the nads.

From: sisabdulax
18-Mar-12
On facebook the NASCAR CAmping World truck series has a page too! Also Posted on Facebook, any post related to camping world on anyones page are showing up on their page too. We are being heard!

From: DL
18-Mar-12
Dixie who?

From: big ter
18-Mar-12
How about everyone on here order a CW catalog and throw it in the garbage when it gets here. I'm willin to throw THEIR money in the garbage.

From: BR549
18-Mar-12
I just took big ter's advice and ordered a catalog after sending my letter. They will be in the hole with me.

From: big ter
18-Mar-12
I ordered it too. Just go to bottom left hand corner where it says request a free catalog. Just simply open your mailbox, smile, and rip it in half. It will be very satisfying.

From: fenceman
18-Mar-12
Done it!!

19-Mar-12
Countries that ALLOW regulated elephant hunting...wait for it...HAVE strong populations of elephants. Those that outlaw it, see poaching take over, kill off the elephants and with no tourism dollars to support the payment of game wardens, there is nothing in place to support the giant animals. Where there is no economic incentive to keep elephant, most African natives want them gone as they are competition for their livestock and crops. But where there is safari dollars, there is economic incentive to keep elephants and to pay wardens to ensure their protection and reduce poaching. Thus, where there is hunting of elephants allowed...there are lots of elephants! These people (animal rights nutjobs in general) just don't get it. They also don't "get" that each elephant is used in its entirety by the natives there, with the wealthy hunters' monies going to help a poor people as well.

There are plenty of other camping supply houses to buy from.

From: BillK
19-Mar-12
I went to Camping Worlds site and started this thread

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/25899573.cfm

Then sent Marcus Lemonis,the chairman and CEO of the company this email:

Hello Marcus,

I am sorry but I felt I had to vent about the anti-hunting. I have been a hunter and fisherman 60 years. There seems to be a growing antagonism against hunters with the liberal generation that has graduated from big city liberal colleges. There are a lot of us that grew up in small towns or the country that still have old ways and traditional values. It is politically correct to look down on us as we are seen as simple rednecks that like to kill animals. If you would just read what hunters and fishermen have done to restore and protect wildlife as opposed to what the anti's have done for their benefit, you would be surprised. Hunters spend untold dollars and time because they love wildlife, not because they hate it.

Anti-hunters do nothing but denigrate us and certainly little for animals. I get a bang out of PETA and The HSUS making commercials that draw on peoples sympathies that only line their own pockets. Were it not for hunters, there would be far more endangered and extinct species. Sorry you have taken this route instead of just letting your sponsorship expire quietly as no one would know but you made it an issue.

Bill Kissner

From: Tattoo Paul
19-Mar-12
Here's the email I sent to NASCAR:

Dear NASCAR, You are about to have a public relations nightmare on your hands. Camping World, the sponsor of your truck series, has recently pulled advertising from a television show (Celebrity Apprentice) because one of Mr. Trump's sons was involved in a legal hunt for big game in Africa. They have stated that their stance is anti-hunting. I don't know if they realize how many campers and NASCAR fans are also hunters. In response to their actions, hunters worldwide are refusing to purchase products from Camping World, and are refusing to support any endeavors they sponsor or are affiliated with - including the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series. That includes tickets to races and all merchandise sales. I hope the winning drivers enjoy the cheers of the other teams while in the winners circle, because there won't be much noise coming from the empty grandstands.

From: marcus73
19-Mar-12
Good Morning,

I wanted to take time this morning to respond to the numerous email's I received over the weekend.

First and Foremost I want to appoligize for offending all of you. That was not my intent.

To be clear, and for the record, I am not against hunting. I am in favor of legal hunting. Additionally, I am well aware that if it were not for the hunting community, our preservation of wildlife and conservation of the areas would be much further behind where it is today. I am in full favor of one thing, ones right to choose what he or she does.

I realize that I have upset many of you and that was not my intention.

The purpose of this letter this morning is not driven by business but my concern that people feel that I would question their rights or their choice to live their life the way they want.

Lastly, as my apology is sincere, I would ask that feedback that threatens me or my family stop. The passion behind this issue is clear and for the record I agree with your rights. This does not however warrant some of the very threatening email's regarding my safety or anyone else's.

Again, I sincerely appoligize for offending any of you. I realize that most of you will not accept this and I hope over time we can reconcile.

Marcus

19-Mar-12
I do not accept it and I will never shop in your store. I will however tell everyone I know, not to go to Nascar Truck races and to never shop in your stores. I am glad to see that people in Austrailia are also fed up with crap like this and we have to make it stop, now! JJ

I read nothing about threating you or your family, and it has everything to do with business going south now! Loser!

From: wild1
19-Mar-12

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is this authentic....? And if it is, one question: You state that "....I am in favor of legal hunting." What part of Trump's hunt was illegal....? And to my knowledge, no one from Bowsite has threatened anyone.

From: Longhorn
19-Mar-12
I doubt seriously that he got any threats to his or his families well being. It is just a play for sympathy.

But he is basically saying that he doesn't care what we think and that their stance won't change, and he hopes (expects) that after a little time and we calm down, then we'll be back, buying from them as usual....

From: Stekewood
19-Mar-12
If you are really Marcus, you obviously came here and posted publicly without consulting any PR experts. Keep digging.....

From: big ter
19-Mar-12
He's startin to feel it in the pocket. He shot from the hip to begin with and that was his real feeling. Dont buy into this BS.

From: ar troy
19-Mar-12
Sent.

From: Medicinemann
19-Mar-12
Pat,

I look forward to your expose on this topic.....

Jake

From: markbrit
19-Mar-12

markbrit's Link
Not sure if the above note from Marcus is from Marcus Lemonis. No matter.

The original quote by Mr. Lemonis was enough to show his true colors and I will severe any relationship with the company he is CEO of.

Just an FYI I was a subscriber of Trailer Life magazine but I will be cancelling that today. Also anyone who is a member of Good Sam club should reconsider.

Nothing personal, just a business I choose not to support.

From: Troy/OK
19-Mar-12
Marcus (if that is really you),

Your apology is for 'offending all of you'? Really. You stand by your press release that is grossly inaccurate to the point of being either incompetent or intentionally misleading and all your marketing people can come up with is 'sorry for offending you"?

First, I am not offended. Your company's statements in the press release specifically implied that you were discontinuing a business association due to the hunting of endangered animals, and that we should all find that either illegal or immoral. As a businessman you could have discontinued that relationship for any reason you chose, but you chose to pick hunting. Therefore, you picked a fight with the hunting community.

By now you should have realized, or at least someone should have told you, that the hunt in question was both legal and moral, and the animals hunted were not endangered in that region. We have elk in Oklahoma. Not many, but a few. We would consider elk in Oklahoma to be 'endangered' and tend to protect them. Not so the elk in Colorado, where there are open hunting seasons on them. Can you understand that concept?

In your press release you threw out the tried and tested 'freedom to choose' line. Remember sir, that line is a two edged sword. We sportsmen also have that freedom. As a now former Good Sam member I have already sent in my choice to not associate with those who are either incompetent or dishonest.

Lastly, let me offer my apology to you for any in the hunting community that went over the line with any personal verbal statements about you and/or your family. Some folks don't realize how insignificant you or your decision on advertising really are and tend to overreact.

I wish you the best in your efforts to bring negative attention to yourself and your company while continuing your tilt against legal hunting in Africa.

~Troy

From: Ron Reddon
19-Mar-12
If that message from Marcus is real, then I'd recommend and urge Marcus turn those threats in to the police to have those making threats held accountable.

I'd also like to ask if Marcus feels he owes the Trump family an apology for taking this issue into the public forum, focusing all the hatred, invective and threats against them that they've been receiving from animal rights extremists since he's made his public pronouncement?

How about it, Marcus, what do you think your responsibility is in the threats the Trumps are now recipients of? Are you publicly asking your animal rights pals to stop threatening Trump's family? I haven't seen any public pronouncement from Marcus demanding those threats be quelled.

Sorry, but you pretty much burned your bridges with many in the hunting community and you'll be lucky to ever rebuild them. You made a choice. You made your bed, now lie in it, until it's repossessed, of course. The people you chose to side with, rarely go outside of the concrete jungle and aren't your target customers.

I haven't ever purchased anything from any of your sites, but have been on them on several occasions looking for things, but I guarantee, your sites are all in my router's blacklist, so I won't make the mistake of going on any of them again.

From: snellpastor
19-Mar-12
If you google all of this ... you'll find that in the days leading up to his press statement about the trumps, "animal rights" groups and various personalities in Hollywood were pressing for a boycott of his company (like they use CW anyway ...). So his actions were taken to appease the anti-hunters. Looks to me that he is now trying to straddle the fence ... very unsuccessfully.

From: Ron Reddon
19-Mar-12
Saw something amusing on Twitter just a second ago.

Someone said the Trumps ought to simply buy out Camping World. Now that would be hilarious to see Trump say to Marcus: YOU'RE FIRED!

From: snellpastor
19-Mar-12
Just posted this message on CW Facebook: Marcus, I'm the guy who started the forum on bowsite that you apparently just posted your "pro-hunting" views on. Just so you know, I - and most other hunters - aren't buying it. Your PR statement here are not neutral due to the propagation of inaccurate facts casting a legal hunt in a negative light. Furthermore, your public comments are very anti-hunting. If you want to stop the backlash against your company, you will need to retract your public statements, apologize to hunters everywhere (especially the Trumps), and re-engage in sponsorships demonstrating a pro-hunting stance. I'll believe you then ... and not before. And yes ... your people have deleted my posts here despite your denials.

Guys ... the fact that Marcus posted here tells us that this is hurting his pocketbook. Don't let the pressure up until he apologizes AND demonstrates a pro-hunting stance through solid pro-hunting sponsorships (perhaps by becoming a sponsor on bowsite!)

From: big ter
19-Mar-12
Like those liberal Hollywood bastards would ever "rough it" in a camper. I think not.

From: snellpastor
19-Mar-12
Pat, tell him to become a bowsite sponsor ... or sponsor some other pro-hunting business ... if he is honestly repentant about this, and to begin making public statements of apology ... as well as making public his sponsorship of bowsite (or other pro-hunting business). My guess is that he won't.

From: Medicinemann
19-Mar-12
Just out of curiosity, is Camping World a publicly traded company? If they are, I'll bet that shareholders won't be happy if the stock takes a hit....

From: LBshooter
19-Mar-12
Marcus, you sound like a criminal who gets caught and then comes to Jesus and apologies, then once out from under the law reverts back to their old ways. I think it's alittle late to fix it with an apology, and it seems you apology comes only as a way to shore up your profits. I for one will NEVER shop with you company again, and I don't think over time the hunting community will forget as you hope. Humpty has fallen off the wall and all the kings men won't be able to put him back together again. I hope that what you say about threats to you and your family aren't true because i do believe that hunters would not endanger themselves by a crime,and my advice to you is that you report any such threats. The way to hurt someone who makes a foolish decision like yours is to do as we as hunters are doing and just saying no more, no more shopping with Camping World. You really screwed the pouch!

From: BillK
19-Mar-12
Here is the reply I received from Marcus Lemonis this morning. Evidently he has received many emails as this is a copy everyone received.

Good Morning,

I wanted to take time this morning to respond to the numerous email's I received over the weekend.

First and Foremost I want to appoligize for offending all of you. That was not my intent.

To be clear, and for the record, I am not against hunting. I am in favor of legal hunting. Additionally, I am well aware that if it were not for the hunting community, our preservation of wildlife and conservation of the areas would be much further behind where it is today. I am in full favor of one thing, ones right to choose what he or she does.

I realize that I have upset many of you and that was not my intention.

The purpose of this letter this morning is not driven by business but my concern that people feel that I would question their rights or their choice to live their life the way they want.

Lastly, as my apology is sincere, I would ask that feedback that threatens me or my family stop. The passion behind this issue is clear and for the record I agree with your rights. This does not however warrant some of the very threatening email's regarding my safety or anyone else's.

Again, I sincerely appoligize for offending any of you. I realize that most of you will not accept this and I hope over time we can reconcile.

Marcus

From: Nick Muche
19-Mar-12

Nick Muche's Link
Some of the comments below this article are certainly out there... my goodness...

19-Mar-12
Marcus,

I have not had the time to email accordingly and will, but the only apology I would ever accept is if and when you publicly apologize on your website for skewing the truth and basically lying to the public. Your company will never receive any business from me or anyone that I can possibly influence.

In your botched apology above, you never mention how wrong your interpretation of the laws and truth are. Most, if not all of us can see right through you. I DO NOT accept your apology as its full of holes.

Why would someone with such and outdoorsy type business ever cross one of the largest outdoor communities? Not a very good business plan.

From: BillK
19-Mar-12
First, I want to thank Tim Snell for bringing this to our attention. I do believe Marcus is trying to satisfy both sides but far more hunters are campers than anti's I am sure.

All posts on CW's Facebook page have been removed and it looks as if no one is allowed to post anything at this time.

From: Shiras
19-Mar-12
Stating that you don't care whether or not people hunt is a far cry from being pro-hunting and supporting the rights of people that support your business.

I want to thank Pat L for providing a place where we can come together as a hunting community to rally against those that would threaten our passion.

From: marcus73
19-Mar-12
My position has been made clear. IF there is a good business proposal on becoming a sponsor with this site , I would be more than happy to do so. I have not qualms about being affiliated. If Pat wants to send me something to review I would be glad to respond immediately.

From: ar troy
19-Mar-12
My canned response from Camping World, and my response to them. I know I'll get the same canned response again, but at least they know how I feel.

Pat, you're the boss around here, but if it were me, there wouldn't be enough money in the world to make Camping World a sponsor of Bowsite. It's obvious from this joker's responses that we don't need folks like this. They need us, and our money. We don't need them. There is not a product that they have that cannot be sourced elsewhere. I would seek out sponsorship from their largest competitor. Like you need my advice. ;o)

Mr. Thompson;

To clarify our position, Camping World as America’s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, in our opinion, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose.

Thank you,

Camping World Customer Care

So, apparently it is your opinion that the hunting of endangered species occurred? Exactly what is that opinion based upon? I would like to know, because obviously I would need to check with Camping World on endangered species in this region of Africa, rather than the governments, guides, and hunters in that region. Specifically, what regions of Africa is Camping World an authority on with respect to endangered species?

Troy

19-Mar-12
Marcus, your position is indeed clear. So is ours.

From: Longhorn
19-Mar-12
wooooo, His position has been made clear.... We're supposed to stand down now.....

But he is right, his postion was made clear, as soon as they took their first action in dropping the show and making the very first statement.....

Doesn't change anything.

From: BillK
19-Mar-12
Marcus,

This is copied from TMZ's site. These are your very words. Are you now refuting them?

Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis tells TMZ, the company's TV spots already aired on this season of "Celebrity Apprentice" -- but he insists, "I wouldn't spend another nickel with them."

Marcus adds, "I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them ... Money is spent but wow I'm really shocked."

From: big ter
19-Mar-12
Don't sell your soul to the Devil.

From: LBshooter
19-Mar-12
Hey Marcus, become a sponsor if you wish but paying us off with a sponsorship will not change my opinion, sorry.

From: markbrit
19-Mar-12
Just called and cancelled my subscription to Trailer Life magazine. Does not sound like it was the first time this happened due to Marcus' anti hunting views.

From: StrutNut
19-Mar-12
What LBshooter said. Simply buying a sponsorship to stop this does nothing to correct your true feelings about legal hunting. You made a business decision to not align yourself with hunting views that do not align with your views. We too, as consumers have that same right.

From: JayG@work
19-Mar-12
Sent a letter to Camping World. It b lows my mind that a company that makes it's money in the outdoors, would pull advertising from a show because of something that was done, legally in the outdoors. I guess Cabelas will be getting a bunch more of my money this year. Instead of a quick trip to Camping World in Syracuse, I guess it's time for a road trip to visit the family in CT,,, 8 miles from Cabelas.

19-Mar-12
I will not go to CW in Fulton either! JJ

19-Mar-12
This is ugly. The CEO of CW made a poor decision with the way he responded to the Trump's Aferican hunt. I haven't seen the pictures that he says he found offensive, however I have seen pictures posted on the Bowsite's various forums that I felt were offensive in the way they were presented.

Mr. Marcus also responded poorly to the initial response fromt the hunting community. He appears to have apologized. Who amongst us haven't responded poorly to events in our family, work, or social settings. I responded very poorly to events of my employment a year ago. I, untentiionally caused my boss deep pain. It took me some time to realize how wrong I was. I have since retired, but some time ago I text her an apology. She accepted, and when my daughter died from cancer two months ago today, my ex-boss came to my daughter's funeral.

I think it would be good to have him as a sponsor of this site. I think it would be even better to see CW sponsor some archery events, especially for kids.

This could turn out to be a win, win for everybody. A good learning experience for all.

If I were a perfect person, I might feel differently, but I err frequently in what I say and what I do. If I offend others, I apologize and go on.

I know I am going to catch holy hell for this post. This is America. One of the few countries where spirited debate is allowed. So to those who want to throw arrows at me for my opinion, please send them USPS, and make sure they are hickory, 29", spined 55#, 23/64. I have thick skin and can handle anything you shoot my way.

From: ar troy
19-Mar-12
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Posts like this, and others, are why it is such a pleasure to spend time on Bowsite. It is also why I make it a point to check the Bowsite sponsor list when considering making a purchase. While the piddling amount of money I am able to spend will make a difference to no one, I can at least rest assured that it goes to the right kind of people. Thanks for a great site, and being a stand-up guy, Pat.

From: elkmtngear
19-Mar-12
It is a poor business decision to draw a line as he did, regardless of one's personal stance.

I am sure he will greatly regret it.

Pat, I applaud your decision, as a Sponsor, a hunter, and a Bowsiter! You Rock!

Best of Luck, Jeff

From: trevore
19-Mar-12
I wouldn't be surprised if those emails containing "threats" were sent by anti-hunters looking to give us a black eye. That would be par for the course with those loons.

I'll agree with most here, He made his companies position known, and we've made ours.

From: bigswivle
19-Mar-12
BOOM!!!! I love u pat. (no homo)

19-Mar-12
Pat,

You put the ball in his court fair and square. It would be great to see him sponsor a group as you mentioned. I don't know where my daughter heard it, but she always said, "when something bad happens, something good will come from it".

It will be interesting to see if he accepts your challange.

From: SteveBNY
19-Mar-12
Thanks Pat for standing tall. Something Marcus and CW would do well to emulate.

From: BigWave
19-Mar-12
That was really good Pat. Kudos to you. I know that this is ALL over the internet on hunting forums everywhere, but I don't know of another site that Lemonis has actually created an account on so that he could post his pathetic message. Hopefully a bunch of good will come from this.

From: boothill
19-Mar-12
I have family that goes to the NASCAR races at Kansas Speedway. Seems the truck series is running there on April 21st, just over a month away. Their RV parking spot is on the north side of the main grandstand at the exit of turn 4. There are only 7 corporate sponsers besides them in this gated area. It would be awesome to get a sign made to boycot CW out there for everyone would see it. I'm sure it wouldn't get any camera time though.

19-Mar-12
His position is known, and now he knows mine.

From: nijimasu
19-Mar-12
Pat-

Let me just say- YOU ROCK!!!

Mr. Marcus-

I sincerely believe you could turn this into a very profitable moment for your company, if you do as Pat has suggested. You've generated a lot of mentions of your company's name in cyberspace and elsewhere with the current situation. I'd never heard of your company before this- but I certainly won't be forgetting it anytime soon.

There is a very good chance many hunters who had never heard of CW before will start doing business with you if you do as Pat has suggested. You might lose some business from the anti-hunting population base if you do, but it would be hard to believe that segment of your market could hold a candle to the segment that supports hunting.

Ultimately- your stance should be what you sincerely believe in, if you are any kind of man. Either go anti-hunting or go pro-hunting with your position, and accept the consequences. To paraphrase Mr. Miyagi, if you try to stay in the middle of the road, you will end up "squash like grape." (And please note- that was a reference to a metaphor in the "Karate Kid" movie, not a personal threat of any kind to you or anyone you know.)

From: TD
19-Mar-12
He's using the Ditzy Chicks defense, "I have the right to free speech and free choice....so shut up and go away...."

Cool. No one is saying he/they don't have those rights.

He is simply neglecting the fact that we as consumers ALSO have free speech and free rights. We have the right to tell him/them they ARE insulting to put it kindly, and we choose not to do business with them anymore. We will also encourage our friends and family to do the same.

There is free speech and choice...... and everyone can and should be held accountable for their speech and choices.

Obviously they feel they are above all that. So they now resort to being the victim, a victim of their very own speech, their very own choices.

I have no sympathy for a situation of his own creation. And a lame azzed "apology" that now claims victim status in the same statement is classless.

From: LBshooter
19-Mar-12
I have to respectfully disagree with you Pat. Marcus' apology is simply because he has to eliminate his bad pr move that he thought would help his bottom line. Instead he has hurt it more then he knows and with all the bad press he is now back pedalling trying to fix his foot in mouth. Anything he does as far as sponsorship or whatever is solely to help his profit margins and hence a fake act. CW can throw all the money in the world at sponsorships but we know his TRUE feelings and accepting his money would simply be selling out. I would think twice about this site if I saw a CW sponsorship, and until I see Marcus out hunting and posting some pics I would not take his fake apology or his money.

From: Deflatem
19-Mar-12
No business for CW from me until I see a full retraction, and acknowledgement that Trump's hunt was completely legal and that NO endangered species were hunted. Full public apology That acknowledges CW premature judgement & Lack of research into the fact. Period.

From: Norseman
19-Mar-12
Mr. Camping World CEO guy...

we as the hunting community were not Offended by your words and actions. you can say we we disappointed, confused, and maybe angered by your decisions. WE don't get offended, so keep your apology. WE leave the being offended to Hollywood Politically Correct crowd-types.

your response was wishy washy hogwash, imo. Trying to save face with the hunting community, with an unsolicited apology without changing your stance on the contraversy you created, was spineless. If you in in full favor of one's right to choose as they want, why did you pull your advertising or make those comments in the first place?

From: Millsie
19-Mar-12
We all need to e-mail NASCAR!

From: Millsie
19-Mar-12
Just looked at The Donald's face book page. He's getting hammered!

From: trevore
19-Mar-12
I'm surprised someone hasn't put it up on Nascars main facebook page. Asking for their official statement on the matter.

If I'm correct it looks like CW lots about half of its facebook audience since this hit the net.

From: Manager
19-Mar-12
Along with CW/Marcus making a full public apology to all sportsman in this great country. He needs to make a full public apology to the Trump Families.

And then we can all presume & hope that his anti-hunting remarks will stay in our minds forever. Because "His" original words will never change his own opinion, no matter how much apologizing he does now.

Let the boycott of Camping World continue !!

From: markbrit
19-Mar-12
Boycott Good Sam Club also as it is part of the same company.

From: noodle2000
19-Mar-12
Here is what I find in an apology." Sincerity not financial restitution"

Marcus,

The actions you have taken for your company is in total disgust with many of us.

You stated that you pulled your advertising because of the photos, but I also heard you were going to pull it anyway?

Lets call it how it is. You thought you would have a cute marketing scheme by playing the anti-hunting card to gain public favor. Well how has that worked out for you?

Apparently that has backfired in a much larger way than you ever thought I am sure.

What I think you failed to realize is the solidarity of us as hunters. We are always under constant attack and have been for a long time by the anti uneducated folks. You have failed to see that those anti's that you tried to gain for financial gains are pretty much extremist and a very ill-rational group many times. They promote hunting in the same light as animal cruelty (dogs & cats being mistreated).

When you slam two hunters who had bought the permits and paid for the license and did everything by legal definition you showed us that YOU DO NOT support hunting at all.

Your ill attempt at trying to put out the fire you created is only showing me more disgust with your company.

As Pat said if you were sincere and not shallow you would reach out to hunting organizations not from the largest bowhunting website globally and try and pay for a sponsorship to make a mends.

Honestly if Pat accepted your sponsorship I would have issues with that as well as the issues I have with you sir. I don't believe in anyone (Paying for an apology) Kobe Bryant does that!!!!

As I stated on your facebook wall I own 2 campers. Well Sir my hunting lease has about 6 campers on it as well. They also will never purchase anything again.

If you want to look at what animal cruelty is all about google Michael Vick dog fighting.

I have gotten tremendous feedback on my inbox on my Facebook about the direction your company took.

Please take the high road and do not back peddle is shows little strength in you as a man!!!

Now I have a request for all bowsiters on here and anyone else who may read this.

This man has a right to make his choices as he likes we have the right to disagree or agree no matter how stupid we find them.

Please do not be so stupid to threaten this man or his family not is it childish at best it is just plain stupid!!!

How would you feel if someone threatened your child or grandchild simply because they didnt agree with you?

Marcus as a Christian I wish you all the best but once again no matter what you say I will never do business with you or with anyone who advertises with you again nor will I be affiliated with the Good Sam club either.

You have your right to choose and we have our right to choose! I honestly believe you are not liking what most of us have chose to do.

I am just wondering how much your financial sales will increase with your affiliation with the anti group? Did you really think that business plan through????

Marcus I would suggest some high level media training in the near future before you go running off with the mouth?

Old proverb "It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt"

Sincerely,

Kelly S. Harris Avid hunter for 41 years....

From: keep
19-Mar-12
Pat Thanks for not whoring out Bowsite and accepting his potential sponsorship offer.

From: noodle2000
19-Mar-12
Amen KEEP!!!! Thats exactly what I said in just a different light :o)

From: GameEarGabe
19-Mar-12
Thank you Pat for representing all hunters in an outstanding manner.

From: noodle2000
19-Mar-12
Seriously Pat, leave the money on the table do not climb into bed with this guy!

He is nothing but a back peddler nothing else.

From: jcsfish
19-Mar-12
my first boycott....sent

I am writing to express my disappointment in your companies stance on legal safari hunting and your position to pull a sponsorship based on bad information. I am sure you are being bombarded with information on hunters and conservation...things you should have known and understood as hunters represent a large percentage of your consumer base......or at least they did. I have never boycotted ANYTHING in my life but I am very discouraged by the rash actions of your company(CEO) and with other options available for my outdoor supplies, I will have to take my business elsewhere. I am sorry you took this stance but I am optimistic that you could take another stance in the future....stand for outdoorsman everywhere and bring your hunting customers back by making this right.

From: Gator
19-Mar-12
Sent

19-Mar-12
I appreciate the apology. I've seen in the past others who have stumbled in the sporting fields, take Jim Zumbo for instance with his remarks about AR15's for hunting. Ted Nugent came along and cleared him up on the facts. Zumbos remark at the time just about destroyed him at the time. Now we have this instance, hopefully Marcus that you can understand that just because an animal is classified endangered, that in certain places they need to be controlled and licenses are sold to hunt them which helps the locals because then the meat is donated to the people in the area that are poverished. Also some animals are classed as endangered when their really not. Endangered means threat of becoming extinct world wide in its truest sense. Lastly I condemn any hunter that threatened this mans family, thats truly sickening, thats what animal rights nuts do, outdoorsmen and women are better that.We fight those wackos everyday, we don't need to stoop to that level thats disgusting.

From: noodle2000
19-Mar-12
go to facebook.com and type in camping world under the search bar in the middle of the top of the page.

If you want some humor read the post from the anti's....

From: Mt. man
19-Mar-12
ATTA BOY PAT!!!

From: Medicine Bow
19-Mar-12
I also received the same canned response the rest of us have received. I will continue to boycott CW. I have owned various campers over the last 25 years.

Mr. Lemonis,

We received your latest advertisement recently and were actually interested in an item you have for sale. My wife enjoys seeing what's available for our camper. After discussing what happened we agree to purchase our camping needs elsewhere. My wife stated we get good service from the private dealer down the road so we will continue to do business with them.

You have made your stance concerning hunting quite clear to all of us. If you supported legal hunting then there would not be an issue with the sons of a person from a show you sponsor.

What Pat stated makes perfect sense, sponsor the US Sportsmans Alliance. Perhaps my wife and I will reconsider our position if you take steps to correct the situation. Actually i'm surprised you aren't a sponsor of groups like The USSA considering the number of people that hunt and fish that also camp.

It's rather obvious many hunters camp and you have chosen to alienate them. I believe you should have researched what the Trumps did before making such a hasty decision. I believe you'll be seeing a number of people making free choices concerning what businesses they support.

From: Elkivory
19-Mar-12
email sent

From: StickFlicker
19-Mar-12

StickFlicker's Link
Pat, you had me worried with your first sentence! Glad to see that you too agreed that he never actually withdrew his stance on anything, essentially only sorry it offended us enough to make is life uncomfortable...

Without a full retraction and apology in the media, I think his first comments to the press told his true stance, and those aren't likely to change. I hope those liberal big city antis buy lots of camping equipment to offset the hunters that will never again do business with his company.

It seems to me that we should be going above Mr. Lemonis' head, and appeal to the Board of Directors of these companies to replace him as CEO. While unfortunately these companies are mostly privately held, Stephen Adams is apprently the primary owner of Good Sam Enterprises as well as most other entities related to Camping World. Since he was born in 1937, he may not be familiar with most modern electronic communications and therefore not be aware of what is happening to the good name(s) of his companies. If someone is sharp enough to find contact information for him directly, that might be a good direction to move.

From: slade
19-Mar-12
They have lost my business.

19-Mar-12
Same canned response for me as well

From: Ron Reddon
19-Mar-12

Ron Reddon's Link
This might go a long way to explaining what kind of outfit Good Sam Enterprises really is...Looking pretty shady. I am glad I never did any business with that company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_Group_Inc.

U.S. bank regulators closed Affinity Bank of Ventura, California on August 28, 2009. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp said Affinity had $1 billion in assets and about $922 million in deposits. Pacific Western Bank of San Diego agreed to assume all the deposits of Affinity. Affinity Bank had 10 branches. The FDIC estimates Affinity's failure will cost its deposit insurance fund $254 million.

In March 1997, as part of the Company’s $130.0 million offering of the holding company notes due 2007, AGI acquired Camping World, Inc. and Ehlert Publishing for approximately $123.0 million and $22.3 million, respectively.[10][11][12]

Subsequently, the Company focused on integrating its operations and repaying indebtedness. In October 1998, the Company issued $200.0 million of senior secured credit facilities to repay its then existing senior credit facility as well as the AGI Subordinated Notes, and in December 2001 the Company completed a $52.3 million property sale / leaseback transaction, the proceeds of which were used to repay senior indebtedness.

On August 15, 2009, AGI failed to make a $6.2 million interest payment to bondholders, and Standard & Poors subsequently lowered AGI's credit rating to D.

Standard & Poor reported that they had taken this view because bondholders will be receiving less than par value for the notes and because of the company's highly leveraged financial profile, weak operating outlook, and limited liquidity given the near-term maturity of its senior credit facility. In May 2011, AGI announced that it was changing the company's name to Good Sam Enterprises.[13]

"Good" Sam Enterprises' corporate contact information:

GOOD SAM ENTERPRISES, LLC

(fka Affinity Group, LLC)

(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)

(Address of principal executive offices)

2575 Vista Del Mar Drive

Ventura, CA 93001

(805) 667-4100

From: snellpastor
19-Mar-12
Guys,

If you want to join in the education of the anti-hunters who are pushing for this boycott of Trump ... join me at the attached link. Some of their ill-informed comments are almost funny. Remember, keep it factual and kind. Maybe we can change a few minds.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-The-Apprentice-Donald-Trump/123131191094823

19-Mar-12
I whole heartedly believe in this site more now than ever.

Thank you Pat.

Thank you snellpastor for bringing this to light.

From: big ter
19-Mar-12
I went to Facebook and am actually dumber for having read the anti's posts.

From: keep
19-Mar-12
I do think coyoteassassin is onto something. Like Zumbo maybe Marcus needs to spend some time with Ted Nugent. Kinda makes me giggle thinking about it

From: Horn Donkey
19-Mar-12

Horn Donkey's Link
Here's a link to 466 employees of camping world that would probably love to hear from us.....

From: Gunny
19-Mar-12
I finally got my standerized form letter reply that everyone else has recieved.

I'm disappointed and a little disgusted. I don't believe they are taking this seriously.

I'll bet they think all they have to do is withstand the initial onslaught and it will all go away.

Need to keep the pressure on!

From: Horn Donkey
19-Mar-12

Horn Donkey's Link
Say what you want about Donald Sr. but I like the cut of Jr.'s jib.

Here are some pics to ease your mind. This was a legal hunt in Zimbabwe.

Keep the pressure up guys. Eventually Marcus will have to make an explanation that satifies our curiosity about his duplicity. He respects people's right to hunting ethically/legally, but he is lambasting that which he respects. He's writing checks with his mouth that his actions can't cash.

Jake--This is a private company, but take a look at my earlier post with employees.

Guys....if you are a professional using LinkedIn, see if you are connected in any way to some of the higher ranking folks at Camping World and send them a direct message. I found that through my network I was indirectly linked to several people at Camping World who reside in the C-Suite. I am awaiting their responses.

Who wants to talk about COC VS. Expandables? 8^)

19-Mar-12
I just followed the above mentioned link to facebook (is the first time I have ever visited FB)

After reading that some of the posters would like to see the Trump boys shot and killed, I decided I don't ever want to visit FB again. There are some sickos out there.

Whether the elephant or leopard are endangered species in Africa I wouldn't know.

But I do believe that there is an endangered species in Africa: Homo Sapien Erectus. Famine, starvation, civil strife, over population, disease, gencide, and on, and on. And the rest of the world may not be far behind.

Okay, maybe I'm the crazy here?

20-Mar-12
Mr. Jones,

To clarify our position, Camping World as America’s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, in our opinion, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose.

Thank you, Camping World Customer Care

From: YZF-88
20-Mar-12
I also recieved my canned response yesterday. I read some of the comments on the original story. I won't dare risk my brain cells by reading the FB comments.

From: NJ_Bowhntr
20-Mar-12
Marcus, Thank you for taking the time to respond here. Unfortunately, this is not the correct media outlet for you to extend your apology. You need to go back to TMZ, or maybe go on the Celebrity Apprentice, and offer your apology there, where all the people who saw the offensive remarks can see you apologise for them. If the views you expressed on hunting here, and your apology are sincere, that is what you will do.

Until that time, this is what I will do:

I will not purchase anything from your company. I will reach out to the NASCAR communtiy with my concerns, and I attend several races a year...camping in the infield...so I will reach plenty of people, who by the way, mostly love to hunt and fish.

I also belong to an Enduro Cycle club. We do alot of events and camp when doing them (season is just kicking off too). Many of them also share my love for hunting, and they will also be informed as to your stance. I'm pretty confident even those who don't hunt will gladly join my cause, just to support a friend if nothing else.

Of Course, I also take several trips each year to different states for hunting and fishing excursions, and we camp then as well. Those I hunt and fish with will also be made aware of the feelings you expressed towards hunting to the media (not what you posted here because I'm not buying it).

You need to go mainstream with your "new" views on hunting and your apology, or this will continue, at least from me.

Have a great day and good luck with the business. In these economic hard times, Camping World must be doing great to be able to throw away such a large portion of your customer base, and expect to succeed. Glad for you.

From: Truthteller
20-Mar-12
Order a catalog anhd throw it away that will cost them money.

From: JDECK
20-Mar-12
I received a Camping World catalog in the mail today. I promptly threw it out.

From: browndog
20-Mar-12
I just sent in my letter denouncing their anti-hunting stance. Let's keep up the pressure and get the word out.

Thank you Pat. What a great place this is.

From: jhelton
20-Mar-12
I have never bought anything from them, but now I sure wont. He sounds like yet another ill informed panty-waist CEO who got a few letters from PETA libtards and did the PC thing by pulling his sponsorship. As far as I am concerned his company can go the way of dodo.

J

From: Bullshooter
20-Mar-12
Adios Nascar. I'll miss the mullets! Haha

20-Mar-12
I spent a ton there last year after a bear encounter on my 5th wheel, i cancled my membership and toldthem to take me off the mailing list! The sent me an email saying I have been removed for all lists per my request. that was all! I also recieved a new catalog in the mail yesterday, filed it in the outgoing can!!!

From: DC
20-Mar-12
This has to be a generic statement. But judging from the responses here on Bowsite alone, it must be getting someones attention.

Don, To clarify our position, Camping World as America’s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose.

From: LBshooter
20-Mar-12
I'm sorry, can someone from CW tell me why the trumps aren't in jail? I need Marcus or one of his flunkies to tell me what endangered species did the trump boys kill? I will wait for your answer.

From: BigWave
20-Mar-12
Copied from NRAHuntersRights.org

Following reports that Camping World has dropped its sponsorship of “Celebrity Apprentice” over hunting photos that showed Donald Trump’s sons posed with dead game taken on a safari two years ago, hunters continue to call for boycotts of CW and voice extreme anger at an obvious anti-hunting decision. Camping World recently put out the following statement: “To clarify our position, Camping World as America’s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, in our opinion, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose. “ For the record, none of the species the Trumps hunted was endangered. See more about their hunt at: http://nrahuntersrights.org/Article.aspx?id=6266 In response to the Camping World statement, Laurie Lee Dovey, Executive Director of the Professional Outdoor Media Association, wrote the following: Dear Camping World Customer Service and Executives.: I read the statement on your Facebook page. It says and clarifies nothing. What does personal freedom mean in this context? Are you trying to say CW has the right to choose where it does or does not advertise. Of course you do, no one debates that point. Here's the issue -- the reason you gave for pull advertising from "The Apprentice", and the condemnation of legal hunting and hunters. Here's what is unquestionably anti-hunting and why you're losing hundreds and I suspect eventually thousands of customers: 1) CW falling for the "animal butchery" kind of erroneous reporting by groups like tmz.com, the gossip website -- or other news sources who reported/opined about the Trumps "legal" hunting falsely and with a political agenda. 2) Your CEO statement: "Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis tells TMZ, the company's TV spots already aired on this season of "Celebrity Apprentice" -- but he insists, "I wouldn't spend another nickel with them. Marcus adds, "I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them ... Money is spent but wow I'm really shocked." Here's the simple question, I and all in my industry (the hunting, fishing, shooting, camping, outdoors), have for you. Can you simply admit you/Lemonis make a mistake by listening to and being influenced by uninformed, sensationalists without doing your/his homework on the issue, and then simply say you "support legal hunting"? That's the question you've not answered. Until such time as CW answers the question by making a public statement and apologizes, I will not support CW or its parent/affiliate companies in any way. In addition, I'll be reaching out to all of my contacts at the companies, whose products you carry, to let them know that I will no longer support a blatantly anti-hunting company. You owe the Trump family and businesses a sincere apology. You owe all hunters, who are the world's greatest conservationists, a sincere apology.

From: Mtfury
20-Mar-12
My response to CW:

Due to the cancelation of your ad sponsership from the Celebrity Apprentice show due to the fact that the Trump sons were pictured with their LEGALLY TAKEN AND NOT ENDANGERED trophies from a recent african safari, I am cancelling my upcoming purchase ($43,000) from one of your stores in Utah. I have spent litterally thousands of dollars over the last 10 - 20 years on RVing supplies from from your chain but will never drop another dime at any of your outlets.

Your CEO Marcus Lemonis has cost your company by his totally irresponsible outbursts concerning the great life style of hunting and legally pursueing a sport we love so much.

Even though he gave a halfassed apology on the bowsite.com website, the s%$t is already out of the horse and he can't put it back.

I have started the process of purchasing a new RV from a different dealer and have showed this to many of my friends in the RVing community ( who are almost all hunters and outdoors people and they have agreed to follow my lead.

From: Bowhunner
20-Mar-12
A leopard does not change his spots.

From: BigWave
20-Mar-12
10-4. He is talking out of both sides of his face to please everyone. I think his initial reaction showed us all what he is really about. Read his comments to TMZ, etc. in the post above. Coming on here, and other "speeches", is purely damage control.

From: txhunter58
20-Mar-12
Yes, but CEOs change jobs, sometimes not by choice.

From: Inshart
20-Mar-12
At this point about the only "out" for CW is to fire Marcus and make a humble and heartfelt appology as stated above, many times.

From: huntingbob
20-Mar-12
Can someone better than I on the net post a link to the campers they sell. I know one of them is marketed as a line called the bullet as I was looking to buy one but did not. If you contact the supplier of them that will make waves even more so! When I see the link, I for one will make a reply to the supplier regarding this situation! There was no apology in the reply on Bowsite.com by Mr lemonis! only damage control. The only way to solve this is a public reply admitting he was wrong and admitting the animals were shot legally and he was irresponsible in his statements.

From: T-Man
21-Mar-12
Boycotting CW is a great start, but take a look at the below press release that was posted on the RV daily report a few weeks ago and you'll see all the banks that Marcus has managed to get almost a half billion dollars from to support his cause. I don't bank with any of them, but if you do this is where your money is going. And Mr. Lemonis, if you read this, apologize is spelled with one "p" not two. Next time you want to make a unsincere apology at least make sure your spelling is correct.

LINCOLNSHIRE, Ill. -- Camping World RV Sales announced today that it has secured a new multi-year syndicated credit facility quickly approaching half a billion dollars, consisting of an amended floor plan credit facility, letter of credit facility and a term loan.

Bank of America, N.A., which serves as the administrative agent, led the transaction. JP Morgan, which has partnered with the company since 2003, acted as co-agent. The facility also includes seven of the nations premier lenders: US Bank, SunTrust, Key Bank, M & T Bank, Bank of the West, Ally Bank and Flagstar.

Marcus A. Lemonis, Chairman and CEO stated, "Our company's double digit return in same store sales along with an unprecedented level of profitability has earned us a multi-year facility. Our top line outlook for 2012 remains flat to slightly up; however, our tight inventory controls and right sized SGA (selling, general and administrative expenses) has us well positioned for another solid financial performance."

Floor plan financing is a line of credit that allows dealers to borrow against their inventory, and then repay that debt as they sell their inventory or borrow against the line of credit again to add new inventory.

SOURCE: Camping World RV Sales press release

From: TJPOutdoors
21-Mar-12
In the next few months this is going to reach a much wider audience than Bowsite. A sincere thanks is due to the original poster for bringing this to our collective attention. Because of Bowsite I've sent this info on to several of the writers I know that cover these issues for magazines like Outdoor Life and Petersen's Hunting. Great job to all bowsiters who took the civil and responsible route by speaking their mind and acting upon their convictions!

Tony

From: BigWave
21-Mar-12
10-4 Tony. I also heard it here first from snellpastor. I've put it EVERYWHERE I could, including bangin on them hard on Facebook too. I think they can hear us.....

From: Kevin Dill
21-Mar-12
I share Pat's philosophy about forgiveness...when it is deserved. I'm not the slightest bit angry about the whole situation, but I do think that Camping World simply made a verbal blunder. Some people have a very difficult time admitting that they've made a mistake. I'm not saying his personal feelings on hunting aren't his to keep...but his expression of them was a mistake for his company.

It may take much time for that to sink in, and perhaps an admission of error never happens. That won't in any way change the reality that Camping World will be losing significant prestige and revenue in the future. The dollar cost could easily push into 7 figures, given the timing (spring...NASCAR...etc) and the seasonal nature of camping. The end result at some level is a lot of pain...expected when you say things which alienate a significant portion of your customer base.

The most simultaneously difficult and honorable thing to do is to admit an error in judgement...ask for sincere forgiveness...and show you mean this through your actions. Nothing like a public statement of support for hunters (and some proof) to bring us (and our spending power) to ANY company. The opposite is also true...and Camping World is currently dealing with that uncomfortable reality.

From: marcus73
21-Mar-12
After the controversy surrounding the xposure of the Trump boys safari photos of African game, CEO of Camping World Marcus Lemonis was contacted and educated by your fearless SpiritWild leader Uncle Ted & he upgraded his awareness to the reality of the pureness of hunting as the ultimate and only honest conservation tool to keep wildlife flourishing. Marcus is a goodman and totally supports hunting and fishing as the wonderful lifestyle that it is. We support Camping World and recommend it to all our fellow sporters. spread it far & wide-polite activism/education/upgrade works! Godspeed all!

"As CEO of Camping World, I support all Americans who celebrate the time honored family traditions of hunting and fishing, and all choices of quality, legal, environmentally positive outdoor recreation. I know that millions and millions of families camp, hike, canoe, kayak, off-road, explore and enjoy all these wonderful activities and I feel a kinship with them. Nature heals, freedom is the end all and we here at Camping World are proud to be a part of that soul cleansing lifestyle." Marcus Lemonis-Camping World

From: elkmtngear
21-Mar-12

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Marcus, I will be interested to hear what you have to say at the Professional Outdoor Media Association Press Conference tonight.

It is amazing how such a strong viewpoint can do a complete 180 degree turn

Best of Luck, Jeff

From: Kevin Dill
21-Mar-12
Ted Nugent endorses....

I would have personally preferred to hear it from a gentleman who does not receive...in general terms...compensation for his opinions, endorsements, and efforts to promote that which serves his purpose. One who is perhaps quietly thoughful and not known for waving pom-poms.

I'm certainly sure that having one's awareness affected by Mr Nugent is not an "upgrade" in the normal sense...and not one to which I would hitch my business wagon.

From: ORARCHER
21-Mar-12
I will never support camping world !!

From: ksfrog1
21-Mar-12
i 2 will boycott cw until such time as i feel they have properly addressed ceo comments

From: Manhartt
21-Mar-12
Yeah right!!! Lets hear this from the Nuge himself.

Why does Marcus feel compelled to pat himself on the back from comments allegedly made by Nugent.

Another "back door" ploy!

From: JB
21-Mar-12
Marcus, if your board of directors has not already asked for your resignation, I suggest you do so voluntarily. At this point there is zero chance that you can repair your/CW's relationship with the hunting community. We will not back down because Uncle Ted thinks you are a "goodman."

Personally, I will not "spend another nickel" with CW as long as you are employed. There is no apology or sponsorship that will change my view. CW's Board of director's needs to make a wise business decision and move on without you.

From: The Yode
21-Mar-12
Marcus - the "controversy" is not about the safari photos of LEGALLY taken game, it is about your company’s withdrawal of support from the Trump program because of a misguided sentiment.

All I want from you is an apology that includes the admission that ***you made a mistake*** about pulling support from that program based on those photos! Put your money where your mouth is!

Until that happens, Camping World is OFF my list of companies to purchase ANYTHING from.

From: SteveBNY
21-Mar-12
Nugent's endorsement's are seldom free.

From: ORARCHER
21-Mar-12
I emailed both Camping World and Nascar. While I was on Camping Worlds website I also clicked the link for local store info and called them I urge you to do the same.

From: Manhartt
21-Mar-12
Ted Nugent defends Donald Trump Jr. as sponsor bags 'Apprentice' over Jr.'s hunting trip

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/03/16/ted-nugent-defends-donald-trump-jr-as-sponsor-bags-celeb-apprentice-over-jrs/#ixzz1plnZ1ucQ

“Anybody with a shred of honesty supports the Trumps, and all hunters, as the best damn hands-on value conservationists on earth,” devoted hunter and musician Ted Nugent told Fox411.com’s Pop Tarts column. “The Trumps are welcome at the Nugent family sacred hunting grounds anytime.”

From: sundowner
21-Mar-12
I have been a regular customer of CW in the past.

But I will not spend another dime at CW until they fire Lemonis and formally apologize to the hunting public. To quote the zero, "They acted stupidly", and they need to admit it.

From: Manhartt
21-Mar-12
Marcus said that Nugent said he is a good man.

The above quotes were copied and posted from what Ted Nugent actually said.

I would contend that Marcus is blowing smoke.

From: Saxton
21-Mar-12
sent

21-Mar-12
maybe as hunters we should support the Trumps show??? A buck each should get us some hunting related advertisement on the air. I have a spare $10.00 for the support! JJ

From: snellpastor
21-Mar-12
Marcus, It is all nice and safe to post a "pro-hunting" statement on a hunting website ... while leaving your public "anti-hunting" statements un-retracted in the public. This is an effort to talk out of both sides of your mouth and appease people - without dealing with the damage you have done ... and without apologizing. Please know we are not fooled. Follow Pat's advice. There is a redemptive route out of this that will generate income for your company. But you will have to do the right thing ... and that is more than posting some statement on bowsite.

From: Ron Reddon
21-Mar-12
"CW's Board of director's needs to make a wise business decision and move on without you."

Although I agree with this statement, I would think their Board of Directors would make a change, due to the fact that the CEO of their multi-million dollar company would go off half-cocked without first considering his corporation's target consumer base, without investigating the animal-rights kook claims before putting his company's reputation on the line and for inciting so much hatred, intolerance and threats toward the Trumps by his public statements.

From: Broadhead150
21-Mar-12
Here is my comment:This is in response to you pulling your sponsorship from "Celebrity Apprentice" because Donald Trump's son went hunting: Not only will I no longer support your company but I will make it my business to ensure that everyone I know and deal with on a daily basis won't either. Your actions are appalling and discriminatory. Hunting goes hand in hand with camping and, while not all campers hunt, all hunters do camp. I would bet that we make up a significant percentage of your customer base and I emphatically urge you to reconsider your stance on this issue!

From: txhunter58
21-Mar-12
To clear up the confusion as to where Marcus copy and past post came from, it is from Uncle Ted's facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/ted-nugent/ted-reacts-to-donald-trump-jr/10150635732562297

Still waiting for a public statement admitting the error of his ways.

From: snellpastor
21-Mar-12
Give us minute by minute updates POMA!!

From: snellpastor
21-Mar-12
Pat ... also interested in your thoughts after the press conference.

From: elkmtngear
21-Mar-12

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Will do tonite snellpastor!

Best of Luck, Jeff

From: BigWave
21-Mar-12
Marcus,

Please address your comments below. Are these your true thoughts on this matter? Are you only making your current remarks to save business? Please expound.....

Your CEO statement: "Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis tells TMZ, the company's TV spots already aired on this season of "Celebrity Apprentice" -- but he insists, "I wouldn't spend another nickel with them. Marcus adds, "I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them ... Money is spent but wow I'm really shocked."

From: Jeremiah
21-Mar-12
Read Marcus73 above, it says that Marcus is a goodman! Is this really him posting?

From: BigWave
21-Mar-12
Yeah I've read it. According to Pat, he's verified that its him.

From: elknuts2
21-Mar-12
OK, if you guys really want to make an impact in a different way, try this.

I just called the corporate offices of Good Sam Club, the parent company of Camping World. I was transferred directly to the office of Stephen Adams, the Chairman of the Board and 97% shareholder of Good Sam Club. I spoke with one of the secretaries there, who was very polite and patient. I told her exactly how I feel about what Mr. Lemonis has done, and assured her that I'll not only never spend another dollar at Camping World, but that I'm urging every one of my RV owning friends to likewise boycott them, and to not renew their Good Sam memberships unless they publicly apologize to all hunters and outdoorsmen in America, and renew their advertising on 'apprentice' as a show that they truly mean they are committed to sportsmen and women in America.

She was very patient and polite, stopped me several times to ask questions or write down notes, and in the end asked which 'groups' I'm affilated with and for my contact phone number. I told her I'm an NRA member and that I am a regular member of BOWSITE and a NASCAR fan, and that I'm one of those urging NASCAR to drop Camping World as a NASCAR sponsor. She assured me that my message would be passed along.

I urge every one of you (at least, those who are capable of being polite to them on the phone) to call Good Sam's corporate office at 805-667-4100. When the auto-attendant comes on, press "0" for an operator and ask for Mr. Adams office, or Mr. Schnieder's office. Mr. Schneider is the CEO of Good Sam, while Mr. Adams is the Chairman of the Board.

From: Norseman
21-Mar-12
3rd person? who does he think he is...Hershel Walker?

From: elkmtngear
21-Mar-12

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Jeremiah, that is a quote from Uncle Ted that I saw on Facebook (see link)

From: Millsie
21-Mar-12
Sounds like Uncle Ted is asking us to turn the other cheek without a major apology. Apologizing to Ted is not enough!

21-Mar-12
Marcus- There is absolutely nothing wrong with a public mea culpa stating that you were misinformed and reacted in error.

Had the photos have been of someone who had been unlicensed, without proper tags, someone who poached these animals, you would have had hunters reacting with extreme revulsion.

The problem is that you reacted in the same kind of wrong, uninformed way that we are attacked with day in and day out. We are fed up!

I am not interested in you sponsoring anything. Frankly, that smacks of extortion to me.

Gampaw on the road may be right though. You could turn this into something positive. Educate yourself.

Make a public statement about how you've learned that hunters pay for the real conservation and protection of animals. How you've learned that hunting in Africa and elsewhere protects species by placing value and economic incentive into the picture. How you've learned that without hunting, both the animals of Africa and the people of Africa would be impacted negatively.

Explain that without hunters, the buffalo, whitetail and elk of this country would not have the populations that they do today. Feel free to mention migratory waterfowl and upland gamebirds too. Share this knowledge as publicly as you shared your ignorance. Recognize the facts of the debate.

You are correct, this is a free country. You can still be against hunting. You can even choose to be intellectually dishonest with your reasoning. You can express your anti-hunting sentiment. You just can't expect me to support your business when you express that sentiment. Especially when you promulgate inaccuracies and innuendo about my culture and passion.

I will not patronize a business that feeds the propaganda of the people who would eradicate my culture and tradition. Ever.

Man up. Make a choice. Take a stand. Educate yourself and others with the facts. Or, continue to spread untruths and then attempt feebly to pander to your customer base.

My money and I will be waiting.

I'm off to e-mail Nascar that I'm skipping the truck series and encouraging my friends to do the same.

-Rick

From: Millsie
21-Mar-12
Well said Rick!

From: CPAhunter
21-Mar-12
So Marcus, you can't bring yourself to apologize for something you truly believe in. We hear what you are saying. You are sorry you were caught publicly stating your beliefs. We hear you loud and clear. Each of your posts here on Bowsite are evident you are trying to protect your bank account and nothing less. Those shallow words have been heard loud and clear by the hunting community.

Either make it right or keep trying to mince words and dig the hole deeper. My money is better spent elsewhere.

From: snellpastor
21-Mar-12
Has anyone heard what Lemonis said at the POMA press conference? Are his statements going to be out in the general media. Apologizing to hunters alone seems very hallow to me while his other statements in the public go unretracted. Anyone have more info?

From: elkmtngear
21-Mar-12

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Here is a recap (see link)

From: T-Man
21-Mar-12
Really? He blames his reaction on the production company for not giving him a "heads up" about what was coming. So he's still not taking any responsibility for his comments, it's someone else's fault. Then he goes on to say that he would need "coaching" to assess the business potential for advertising on a hunting channel. How did this guy get to be the CEO of a company like CW without knowing who his customer base is? This is all damage control and his original statements are how he feels. Now he's just worried about losing money.

From: Bowhunner
22-Mar-12
I respect Ted and he is a great fighter for hunting and gun rights but he doesn't decide for me. My gut tells me this guy is an anti.

The only thing that will convince me otherwise is him featured on hunting TV shooting critters and saying something like "Long live the beast!" or calling himself the Backstrap Assasin would be good too.

From: T-Man
22-Mar-12
That's not going to happen as he's already stated he's a "non-hunter". Bottom line is he realized that he alienated at least half his client base and is doing damage control in hopes that it will all just go away. He figures in a couple weeks no one will remember any of this and continue to buy RV's from his stores.

From: Matt
22-Mar-12
Given his history, Ted Nugent's relevance pains me.

From: BillK
22-Mar-12
I applaud Ted for what he has done to promote bowhunting but I am still not gonna support CW until I see them sponsoring some ETHICAL hunting shows. This is the only thing that would prove a turnaround to me.

From: CPAhunter
22-Mar-12
I think the only way the hunting community will be satisfied that he is sincere is if Marcus agrees to go on a big game hunt and is willing to squeeze the trigger or let the arrow fly.

Anything short of that would call for those famous words "YOU'RE FIRED".

From: Ron Reddon
22-Mar-12

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"doing damage control in hopes that it will all just go away. He figures in a couple weeks no one will remember any of this and continue to buy RV's from his stores."

This is what he, as a the CEO of a multi-million dollar business, should have realized about his potential customer base and animal-rights extremists. In a week or so, PETA and other AR extremists, will move on to their next target that elicits their ire and leave Mr. Lemonis with a long-lived mess to try to deal with in regard to wiping out his customer base, especially when Celebrity Apprentice had NOTHING to do with Trump's boys going hunting. This is why his BOD should receive his resignation, or be fired. But I guess that is up to their BOD to realize his original statements will continue to affect their bottom line, regardless of how many "upgrades" Uncle Ted gives him.

And again, I'd reiterate if Mr. Lemonis has received threats to himself and his family, is that he should contact police immediately and get them involved in tracking down those responsible. Those threats, if real, could very well have come from animal rights extremists themselves. It was just a month ago that an animal-rights extremist was arrested for creating a fake profile on Facebook looking to hire a hitman to kill a random person ("preferably 14 years old or older but should be at least 12 years old.") wearing a fur coat at a Cleavland, Ohio library, so she could hand out animal-rights literature over the dead body of the fur-wearing victim.

http://gma.yahoo.com/animal-rights-activists-charged-murder-fur-hire-plot-154823900--abc-news.html

That is the type of people Mr. Lemonis should realize he had aligned himself with.

From: antarcher
22-Mar-12
To me this is becoming a landmark case for all hunters and outdoors people. For too long now, the minority anti movement has made a lot of noise and have been listened to. This has meant that they have had leverage and gotten things their way on a lot of decisions that have been detrimental to our way of living.

In this instance they have influenced a large company who has reacted to a few calls from crazed antis and they have rescinded their advertising to please those who blew up about it without thinking long and hard as to who the real money earners are in this world and who actually have money to spend to keep the economy going and of course, line the coffers of big corporations.

Now with this reaction that they have received, I think many other companies will be looking long and hard at how they portray themselves to the common outdoorsman and not just try to please a few screaming idiots who really give no benefit back to anyone and bludge away on welfare in the main and also have no logic to back their arguments, especially in a case such as this one.

Let this reaction be a huge lesson to all of us to stand up for ourselves and make noise where it counts, such as we all are now. I have dealt with many companies who straight away frown at dealing with a bowhunting publication yet we are their biggest customers. Hopefully now they will start to get it.

From: Redfish
22-Mar-12
My message-

As an avid outdoorsman, hunter, and fisherman, I am disappointed by your company's recent behavior in regards to the Trump hunting trip. CW will not receive any business from my family, friends, outdoors associates, or myself, at any point in the future. I would urge Mr Lemonis to continue to look into hunting as a means of conservation, rather than siding with PETA and other such groups that label all hunting as "slaughter". While Mr Lemonis, like everyone else, has the choice to not hunt himself, he should be respectful of the views and traditions of others around him. Hunting has been around far longer than PETA, and hunting will be around long after PETA is gone.

From: Millsie
22-Mar-12
Is anyone else surprised at Uncle Ted's reaction to this? "We support Camping World and recommend it to all our fellow sporters" and "Marcus is a good man!" as quoted from his facebook page.

From: BigWave
22-Mar-12
I agree Millsie. I'm not a watcher of the show, or a big fan by any means. I respect Teds strong voice that he has for all of us hunters. That being said, his move here with Marcus seems kinda cheap and cheesy and has me wondering what the heck is going on.

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12

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Here is hard evidence that Camping World is trying to have it both ways. 1) Their statement about this being a hunt of "endangered animals is still on their facebook page. 2) They have only apologized privately to the hunting community, while leaving their public statements unretracted. 3) When one pro-fisherman wanted to discuss it on facebook, he received the reply you see in this screen shot.

These people are trying to appease hunters without now alienating the anti-hunters. In my opinion, the boycott has to continue.

From: BigWave
22-Mar-12
Yep. Had there not been such an uprising from hunters about this, and loss of business, he would have never made any type of so called apology or "clarification" statement. Once this all settles down, he's right back to where he was. This is just "cleanup" for him.

From: StrutNut
22-Mar-12
I am just waiting for his apology on TMZ;)

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12

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Marcus ... you sound very disengenious. You take responsibility and then blame others. Misquoted?? You were worried about how other "uneducated" people would react???? Willing to hunt, but won't go until you find a "safe" environment? Give me a break!

Here is a quote from an article on outdoorhub about Marcus'"apology". ____________________________

"Previously, Lemonis was quoted by TMZ as saying, “I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them … Money is spent but wow I’m really shocked.” Then, the report goes on to say that he insisted he “wouldn’t spend another nickel” with “Celebrity Apprentice”.

Lemonis told POMA journalists .... “This is an apology. I wasn’t making anti-hunting statements, but I was misquoted. I am 100 percent okay and in favor of legal hunting and fishing.”

While Lemonis has never been hunting, he sees himself as an outdoor enthusiast who mostly camps and has been fishing a few times. “I want to celebrate all outdoors recreational experiences. I realize my reaction created a divide…. As a non-hunter, I could be caught off-guard.” Lemonis said his immediate reaction was to be upset by the pictures because as a non-hunter, he is not aware what happens in the sport and in the lifestyle. “I was nervous about how other people, who are uneducated or informed, would react if they got caught off guard.

Lemonis even went on to express his interest in learning to hunt, but said that it would have to be in a safe, well-controlled environment. He turned down an offer to go hunting for the first time from his hunting-advocate friend Ted Nugent as he jokingly said he wants to learn to hunt in a “safer” environment."

From: wild1
22-Mar-12
It's clear that Lemonis and CW are, at best, insincere and I believe we should keep up the pressure until he makes a PUBLIC statement regarding his support for hunting. Also, I'm totally confused by Nugent!! Here we are, the rank and file hunting community, standing together to oppose an obvious adversary and his (CW/Lemonis)anti-hunting statements....then Ted comes along and folds up like a cheap camping chair. Isn't Nugent supposed to be a die-hard ambassador for the hunting community...? What am I missing here....?

From: Ron Reddon
22-Mar-12
"What am I missing here....?"

I think what might possibly be missing from this equation is did Nugent receive any type of remuneration from CW in return for his "upgrade," whatever the heck that is supposed to mean? That seems to be a proverbial "elephant" in the room, if one might pardon the colloquialism.

And I wonder what TMZ would say that Lemonis is now claiming they misquoted him?

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12
The posts I captured in the screenshot above, as well as a post I made under those posts asking Marcus where we were to discuss this appropriately....Marcus just deleted them from the Camping World facebook page.

He then posted something different so as to mute the criticism for his doubletalk.

From: BillK
22-Mar-12
I would suggest that CW become a regular sponsor of Ted's show.

From: StrutNut
22-Mar-12
Disappointed in Ted as well. Not sure what his agenda other then being sympathetic to those making mistakes, like he did, and trying to gain trust back in the public eye. Ted backing Marcus is not exactly getting him any points from me. Funny, I relate this to some other sportsmens issues that we have recently discusses. I saw several companies stand by comments made about a certain hunting organization who they disagree with even though it may cost them business, sponsors, viewership/readership. Uh Hm, Corey, Big Fin;) They stood by their comments while Marcus is jumping around like water drops in a frying pan. Was he in politics? Nonetheless, it is very comforting to see hunters come together and fight for our sport.

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12
Guys, I will be making a petition available later today that I will encourage you to email to EVERY ONE of your hunting and fishing friends. You will be able to post it via facebook too.

From: Manhartt
22-Mar-12
Ever since Nugent was caught breaking the law (in California I believe) I have lost respect for him - now this puts the exclamation point to it - unreal for someone who "used" to be a great sportsman to now back an anti-hunting CEO. What a "sell out".

Marcus is a great double talker and would fit right in with PETA, he needs to end his career in the camping industry!

From: JB
22-Mar-12
Guys, I think it is now safe to assume that not only is Marcus anti-hunting, but the entire management of CW is anti-hunting. If I sat on the board of CW, I would have made it a priority to make a public announcement that the remarks of the CEO were NOT the opinion of CW. Since they have choose not to make a statement, I assume they support Marcus and his comments. There is nothing this company can do to regain the trust of hunters IMO. I would encourage all to never support CW as clearly this company's beliefs differs greatly from ours.

From: ORARCHER
22-Mar-12
Here is a email I received today from Good Sam club. I doubt anything has changed. MY reply back was that the Trump's were NOT hunting any endangered species and they need to check the facts beforehand.

Hello Mike,

To clarify our position, Camping World as America?s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose.

If you are in need of further assistance please contact us at [email protected] or call our Member Services at 1-800-234-3450 Monday thru Friday 6 AM to 7 PM and Saturdays 8 AM to 4:30 PM Mountain Time.

Thank you for your Membership. We hope you have a great year with your travels.

Wes Robinson Member Services Good Sam 64 Inverness Dr East Englewood, CO 80112-5114 T ? 1-800-234-3450 Email ? [email protected]

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12

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Guys,

Try the attach link for the petition. Sign this and then email the link to every one of your hunting and fishing friends. Post the link on every hunting website. Let's help Mr. Lemonis do the right thing.

http://www.change.org/petitions/camping-world-boycott

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12
uhmm...petition isn't working. I'll try again when I get it figured out.

From: ORARCHER
22-Mar-12
I was able to sign the petition by just copy and pasting your link in my browser

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12

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The Petition is up and running! Every signature sends an email directly to Mr. Lemonis. If anyone can get me the email address of Mr. Stephen Adams (President of the BOD), that would be awesome!! That way he would get an email on every signature too. Please pass this along via email to your friends ... post it on Facebook, Etc.

https://www.change.org/petitions/camping-world-boycott

From: Ron Reddon
22-Mar-12

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For some reason, I just get this gut feeling that there is a lot of glad-handing, back room "dealios" going on in regard to CW for the purpose of getting this swept under the rug expeditiously.

Interesting comments in the comment section of this article, and supposedly according to one of those comments, POMA is going to release the full audio of the press conference with Lemonis on their website. I wonder if they'll release it to the public, or just their membership?

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/camping-world-ceo-defends-himself-against-anti-hunting-accusations/

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12
I have Mr Stephen Adam's email. It wouldn't hurt to email him directly. He is the President of the Board of Directors for the parent company of Camping World. He is the guy that can make the decisions to make this go in the right directions. Send emails to: [email protected]

From: Ron Reddon
22-Mar-12

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I don't have time to listen to the CW/POMA press conference right now, but here is the link to it, so those who have time, here you go.

http://professionaloutdoormedia.org/node/5783

From: elkmtngear
22-Mar-12

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12
Here is the email I sent to Mr Adam's - President of the Board of Directors:

Dear Mr. Adams.

I am writing to express my deep concern over Mr. Lemonis’ recent public anti-hunting statements. As both a hunter and a camper, this is greatly concerning to me. While Camping World is free to express their opposition to hunting, I am also free to express my dissatisfaction as a customer. It amazes me that a company who markets to people who love the outdoors would care little about offending such a large portion of their customer base. As such, until Mr. Lemonis publicly retracts his anti-hunting stance I will no longer be spending one dime at Camping World or any of your other companies. I have also been informing all of my friends through hunting forums, email, and social media – encouraging them to boycott Camping World until this stance is reversed. I thought you would like to know about how Mr Lemonis has alienated a large portion of his customers.

And yes … I have read Camping World’s public statement on Facebook and read his “apology” which he has tried to spread through hunter’s internet forums. Unfortunately, he does this while leaving his other statements unretracted, while deleting pro-hunting comments off of Camping World’s facebook page, and while leaving erroneous information on Camping World’s Facebook page which casts hunting in a bad light. As such I, and most other hunters, see this as nothing but a political move to try to do damage control. It only makes his words and actions more offensive.

I’m writing to let you know how angry and disappointed I am.

Sincerely ....

His email again: [email protected]

From: snellpastor
22-Mar-12
okay ... just got an email error message. Guess that is the wrong email. Sorry. We'll post when I get the right one.

From: Millsie
22-Mar-12
Again I ask, why does our "Fearless Spiritwild Leader", Uncle Ted, support Camping World?, and also wants us to!

From: wild1
22-Mar-12
+1 Millsie

From: Larv
22-Mar-12
My email:

Just became aware of CW's pulling sponsorship of the "Celebrity Apprentice" program due to Donald Trump's sons hunting in Africa. The species hunted were in no way illegal or rare or threatened and any species killed over there are fully utilized but the native tribes, every bit and morsel.

I am a CW member but will never darken your doorstep again until you as long as you have this mindset.

22-Mar-12
I listened to the interview with Mr. Lemonis on POMA site, I have emailed Mr.Lemonis twice in the last few days,with my disgust about what he did and said, I feel he was very sincere and honest, and apologized many times and explained that he pretty much stuck his foot in his mouth and should have thought it through before responding the way he did,I'm certainly not perfect and I'm ready to let him off the hook, THIS TIME, don't make this stupid mistake again!!

From: BigWave
22-Mar-12
A big +1 Millsie

From: Jumpman
22-Mar-12
I think we need to see some sincere apologies where the mainstream media is involved. It is like he is apologizing in private. Trying to let this blow over. I do not think he can apologize to the mainstream media. Then it will blow up even more in the opposite direction.

From: Ron Reddon
22-Mar-12
"It is like he is apologizing in private. Trying to let this blow over."

+1 on this one right here. This is exactly what Lemonis is trying to do, using POMA and Nugent as the messenger boys for his quiet "apology" to hunters, while keeping AR extremists and the general media out of the loop. Unless Facebook's new timeline is somehow keeping me from seeing it, I still don't see one word about his "apology" on Camping World's Facebook page or Google's news aggregate pages. When links to the POMA press conference are posted front and center on their Facebook page, then I might change my tune.

From: BigWave
23-Mar-12
They have also deleted the last "Clarification Statement" now. There's hardly any evidence on the FB page now that this thing ever happened. There's a few lingering comments here and there, but they will probably get zapped pretty quick. Can you say, "sweep it under the rug"?

23-Mar-12
Damage control instead of owning up to what you did.

23-Mar-12
Share the petition on Facebook

23-Mar-12
How about we write " return to anti hunting sender" on the catalog and have it delivered back to them.

From: lewis
23-Mar-12
I would have had a bet with odds on all the people on this sight supporting the Trumps of all people and boycotting CW is this a crazy world or what.By the way I sent in my e-mail and I'm done with CW until MN steps down.Lewis

From: TJW
23-Mar-12
I think if camping world auctioned off a elephant hunt for charity I would feel better about the whole deal. Peace TJW

From: Jeremiah
24-Mar-12
It appears Camping World has blocked me from any more comments on their Facebook page! They have now cleansed the page of all links and support of hunting! I know where they stand! Marcus Lemonis, I do hope you check back on this thread! You have shown your true stand and taken a very bold move! As a business your are entitled to do this! I was almost on the fence this morning and thought you were taking steps in the right direction! Now I can clearly see the direction you are stepping and I have fallen back off of the fence and will shopping for a new supplier, for the things I need for our camper! I had to say it but you are not the only store in town, and I really hope for your employees sake they really can pull a fifth wheel with a prius!

From: arctichill
24-Mar-12
Online, e-mail and print feedback to this company isn't enough for me anymore. They have a retail locaton near where I live. Some "Face-Time" is in order!

From: mooseman
26-Mar-12
Need to keep this up top!

From: big ter
26-Mar-12
Anybody received the new CW catalog. Remember - RETURN TO SENDER!!

From: Longbeard
26-Mar-12
A new twist to the story...

......Trump's Sons Under Investigation for African Hunting Trip ..By ABC News.Posts .By ABC News | ABC News Blogs – 4 hrs ago....

Donald Trump's sons are facing more scrutiny for their African hunting expedition that recently came to light.

The trip is currently the subject of an investigation led by conservationists in Zimbabwe.

Donald Trump Jr., who stars on " The Celebrity Apprentice" alongside his dad, and his brother Eric sparked outrage among animal lovers on Twitter earlier this month after photos surfaced of the two posing with animals they killed during a 2011 safari trip in Africa. Trump Jr. later defended their actions in part by tweeting, "I'm a hunter, for that I make no apologies."

Donald Trump Jr. on safari (Huntinglegends.com via Flickr)

Trump Jr. may be a hunter, but TMZ.com reports the independent Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force says the South African safari company the sons used was not registered in Zimbabwe.

The task force says Trump Jr. and his brother killed an elephant, a buffalo and a crocodile, among other animals. In one of the leaked pictures, Trump Jr., is seen holding a knife and the cut-off tail of an elephant.

The group is investigating whether license and trophy fees were paid.

From: snellpastor
26-Mar-12
innocent until proven guilty ... and that wasn't the foundation of what CW's anti-hunting commments were anyway.

From: Longbeard
27-Mar-12
Snellpastor,

Not argueing that at all. CW was way out of line with the comments. It's just stirred some different twists to the story, and if any of the charges are true, it will give CW a way to feel vindicated, ect. I think CW still needs boycotted, and glad we don't have one around here!

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