Mathews Inc.
Helical on Blazer vanes
Equipment
Contributors to this thread:
Boris 23-Jul-14
drycreek 23-Jul-14
smarba 23-Jul-14
Ermine 23-Jul-14
stick n string 23-Jul-14
GameEarGabe 23-Jul-14
Boris 23-Jul-14
BOWUNTR 23-Jul-14
Boris 23-Jul-14
wyobullshooter 23-Jul-14
huntingbob 23-Jul-14
bo hntr9 23-Jul-14
jingalls 23-Jul-14
Mark Watkins 23-Jul-14
TD 24-Jul-14
Ermine 24-Jul-14
Boris 24-Jul-14
Ridge Rock 24-Jul-14
PAOH 24-Jul-14
razorsharp 24-Jul-14
wyobullshooter 24-Jul-14
OTT2 24-Jul-14
TD 24-Jul-14
wildwilderness 25-Jul-14
BTM 25-Jul-14
LeeBuzz 25-Jul-14
razorsharp 25-Jul-14
StrutNut 25-Jul-14
TD 25-Jul-14
Ermine 26-Jul-14
Boris 27-Jul-14
razorsharp 27-Jul-14
YZF-88 28-Jul-14
razorsharp 28-Jul-14
Ziek 28-Jul-14
Boris 10-Aug-14
Rut Nut 11-Aug-14
Wisconsinnate 11-Aug-14
From: Boris
23-Jul-14
How much helical should be placed on these short vanes.

From: drycreek
23-Jul-14
I would say all you can practically get, which isn't much, but seems to get the job done.

From: smarba
23-Jul-14
ditto. valid reply regardless of vane length.

From: Ermine
23-Jul-14
All you can get! I use bitz jig

23-Jul-14
Yup ermine, bitz here as well.

From: GameEarGabe
23-Jul-14
Blitz

From: Boris
23-Jul-14
Thanks for the help

From: BOWUNTR
23-Jul-14
I have three Bitz jigs and you can't get near the helical on Blazers than you can with the Arizona mini. I didn't believe it either until I bought the AZ mini. Ed F

From: Boris
23-Jul-14
So, what vanes do you guy use

23-Jul-14
Use an Arizona E- Z Fletch Mini and you'll have all the helical you'll need. Been using it on my Blazers for years.

From: huntingbob
23-Jul-14
Same here!

From: bo hntr9
23-Jul-14

bo hntr9's embedded Photo
bo hntr9's embedded Photo
really nice helical with Arizona EZ Fletch Mini

From: jingalls
23-Jul-14
X2 BOWUNTR! I have a Bitz and couldn't get a good helical so my pro shop recommended the AZ Mini. Works great, re-fletched all my shafts!

From: Mark Watkins
23-Jul-14
Arizona Mini!!!!

Mark

From: TD
24-Jul-14
AZ mini as well. I have 3 bitz jigs with both helical and straight clamps, but use the mini on blazers and other 2" vanes. Great tool.

From: Ermine
24-Jul-14
I like the bitz because I can do 4 fletch. And I make a cleaner job with the bitz. I have the AZ mini too but use the bitz more.

From: Boris
24-Jul-14
Ok, I have the JOJAN Fletcher. I see that you use 4 fletch, do you have ant problems with them? Or just your choice? Do you guys use fletchtite or the super glue stuff?

From: Ridge Rock
24-Jul-14
Arizona Mini helped my fixed broadheads fly proper.

From: PAOH
24-Jul-14
Bohning Blazer Helix Jig

From: razorsharp
24-Jul-14
I went to order an AZ EZ mini on eders.com and it doesn't say whether it is right or left helical? How do you tell. Never used this fletcher before. How does it work with FMJ's?

24-Jul-14
razorsharp, the ones I've seen have all been RT Helical. They work great on fmj's.

From: OTT2
24-Jul-14
I use the Arizona EZ mini on FMJ's also. Works great.

From: TD
24-Jul-14
No reason for LH fletch on vanes, only matters with feathers as half the feathers are right hand, half left hand. When I shot feathers you used to be able to get LH feathers on sale a fair amount. =D

The only thing LH fletch will do is unscrew your broadheads when they hit things. Wasn't a problem when they were all glued on though...... although I hear they work best when used in the southern hemisphere.... kinda the way toilets flush....

25-Jul-14
Bohning helix jig made specifically for blazer vanes. Works great. Cleaner than AZ jig but a little more time. I have a Jojan for feathers and other fletching but doesn't work well on blazers

From: BTM
25-Jul-14
"...... although I hear they work best when used in the southern hemisphere.... kinda the way toilets flush...."

:) That's a new one!

From: LeeBuzz
25-Jul-14
TD, next you'll be telling us helical doesn't matter in outer space?

Boris, Gorilla super-glue GEL works well on carbon shafts.

Plus, Gorilla glue gel is $5 for .53oz compared to Krazy glue gel at $2 for only .07oz and that is about .20/oz difference. And the larger container is easier to shake/mix to the very end of use.

From: razorsharp
25-Jul-14
Got the mini fletcher today and it worked great on my fmjs. REALLY puts the spin on my arrows! It seems that my broad heads hit to the right now though?

From: StrutNut
25-Jul-14
Arizona Mini is one of the best things I have bought. Really helps stabilize that arrow flight. Made a big difference especially at yardage. Nice tight groups and very easy to use.

From: TD
25-Jul-14
"sold my Bitz."

HERETIC!

From: Ermine
26-Jul-14

Ermine's embedded Photo
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I like four fletch because he adds more drag and steering power. Yet better clearance and you can nock the arrow any either way. I have found 4 fletch to shoot the arrow slightly better than 3.

Here is 3 vane blazer helical from a bitz jig.

From: Boris
27-Jul-14
well guys i got some of the vanes. I made up 2 arrows with 4 fletch. They are flying like my feathered arrows. Which is great. An that is with broadheads. Thanks for your help.

From: razorsharp
27-Jul-14
I re-fletched my FMJs with the mini and test fired each of my broad heads to confirm. I shot each arrow separately and it is a good thing or I would be re-fletching them again! At 40 yards my 5 arrow group would have been about two inches. REALLY tightened my groups up!

Great investment in my opinion.

From: YZF-88
28-Jul-14

YZF-88's embedded Photo
YZF-88's embedded Photo
I use the helical Bitz jig as well.

From: razorsharp
28-Jul-14
I have the Bitz right helical also but sometimes it puts a vane on almost straight. The Mini does a great job and is very consistant.

From: Ziek
28-Jul-14
Non of the clamp style jigs can put as much helical on as the EZ fletch style jigs. Especially on smaller diameter shafts, and get the full length of the base of the vane to contact the shaft for good adhesion. The white Blazers above look like very minor off-set.

From: Boris
10-Aug-14
A really big thanks to all. I did go with the Hoyt Blazes(thats all they had)Put 4 fletch with helical and they shoot like darts, with broadheads. I have a 20 yd pin an I am 3" low at 30yds. Dead-on from point blank to abut 23yds. then they drop-off from there. Quite pleased.

From: Rut Nut
11-Aug-14
Glad to hear you found something that works for you.

I picked up a Bohning Blazer Helical jig awhile ago and finally got to use it. Easiest jig I've ever used! And worked great! Gonna use this from now on when fletching Blazers. Talk about the KISS prinicple! ;-)

11-Aug-14
I would recommend as much as you can get. I use a Bitzenburger with a right helical clamp and it works perfectly.

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