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Wait until ya have law enforcement following around the woods with one... Its coming...

I heard AZ is trying to ban the use of cameras for hunting !!!

Since I am against all motorized access off improved or designated roads year-around, I would also be against drones overhead.

Just a safer shute plane imo.

If your legs are good enough to get you to game, then they're good enough to use for scouting that game. The example of manned aircraft/planes/helicopter scouting is a poor comparison due to the cost of daily flying and aircraft maintenance...something a drone owner would avoid. Drones are relatively silent, where aircraft engines are extremely loud and don't allow close approaches to undisturbed game. Legal for scouting but not hunting? If you introduce the technology and give it partial legitimacy for hunting-related activities, how much time until it gains enough support from users and manufacturers to make it legal while hunting? Do you really want to hunt amidst the humming of drones through your favorite elk canyon?

I swear, if I have my shotgun I'm going to say this.

+1 !!

IMO nothing.

When remote cameras started appearing on trees in the woods anyone with any sense of reason should have figured that these were the next step. Welcome to the future.

A poacher cannot scout a property without trespassing with a trail cam. It will only be a short time until guys are driving roads and walking fence lines with drones to send out over posted private property. On the off chance they are caught nothing will be done. Huge difference. The potential for abuse here is huge.

Has Boone and Crockett made a reg concerning big game animals located with drones?

As drones improve, with cameras they use, the size gets smaller and the motors get quieter, they could become a poaching tool.

Once again, we are being opposed to a TOOL, which has no mind of it's own, when the real culprits are the people abusing them.

I see this as the same type of argument when compound bow shooters are dead set against crossbows. The drone is to a trail cam as a crossbow is to a compound IMO.

And just for the record, I gave away my compounds years ago to go back to stickbows and I don't own (and don't want to own) a trail cam. Not that anyone else has to do that, that's just me.

Bottom line, NOTHING that has to do with high-tech surprises me anymore. Maybe that's why I gave up on all that stuff years ago.

Short answer....no. But it will only take the sport out of your hunting if you use them Sarge and you feel that way. That's why I don't use OR rely anything that needs batteries ('cept a flashlight) or a microchip. And as long as they don't try and pass any laws that MAKE me use that stuff then we're all good.

Pre season post season, Pat if that is what you want the future of hunting to become, shame on you.....

Did I miss anything? Oh yeah....and while wearing Scent-Loc in an Ozonics tent!

I just shake my head, I said no thanks, it may be legal but its not fair chase.......

I know we are starting to see the end, of a great sport, and Roy Case would not have believed it.....

I feel sorry for the kids, the anticipation, the wonderment, the roaming the woods for sign, etc, in 15 years that type of hunting will all be gone

I grew up in the 50's and 60's, and I came from a non-hunting/outdoors type family. But after watching Daniel Boone on TV and seeing the the deer and bear hung on a game pole in front of the local town restaurant after the owners came back from their Maine trip every fall I knew that I wanted to hunt and I wanted to know EVERYTHING about the woods. And when I say everything I meant just that. The animals, the trees, the plants, the insects, the DIRT. I was blessed that my father had a good friend who was a classic outdoorsman of the first order and he took me underwing.

He taught me how to read sign, track, watch, listen, smell, taste and most importantly QUESTION EVERYTHING I saw in the woods because NOTHING happens by chance...there's a reason for everthing. A deer browsed on this twig. Why? What type of plant is it? Where's it growing? Why is it growing here and not over there? Of course you never know all the answers and there's always more questions, but the more you question and seek the more you know about the woods and everything that's in it.

By the time I was 12 I was trapping on my own. After that I was hunting birds and small game with gun and bow. I started deer hunting at 16 and because of the teaching I had and the woodsmanshiop skills I acquired by the time I was in my 20's I was already a better tracker than a lot of men 10 years my senior.

So I just have to wonder if today's kids like you say will miss all of that. CERTAINLY you cannot learn this by watching trail cam pics. Too many of the people who put trail cams out probably cannot tell you what kind of tree they put it on!!!

But then again, maybe with drones and spy cams, and infrared gizmos and God know what else maybe they won't NEED to know all that stuff....and they'll never know or understand the magnificent natural world in front of their faces.

Thank God I was born when I was and not now!!!

I tell them to forget the cameras for now and to get themselves a book on tree and plant identification and a decent pair of binoculars and to spend as much time in the woods ALL YEAR watching the deer and other creatures and observing what they are doing and why.

Most all of them don't listen and that's their loss. TV has made it seem like the only way you can be a successful deer hunter is by having all the gizmos and doo-dads like the "celebrity hunters" they see on TV.

The sad truth is that many of those kids probably won't even be hunting anymore by the time their 25.

Another large concern is the changes that may be coming to Google Earth.

Google’s satellites by 2018, will survey the globe by taking pictures of its entirety three times a day. These pictures will be twice the detail that is available now.

No need for a trail cam as you will be able to scout from your PC without having to go anywhere.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/googles-satellites-could-soon-see-your-face-from-space

I am sure they will. Like the poor soul on the other thread who listens to "tunes" on his hike in. My goodness, that has to be one of the saddest things I have read on here.

Ear bud nation.......

Then backwards cavemen like me can have more of the woods to ourselves!

Half the time the people killing these monsters just show up to kill em. The drone people sleep and eat with this animal.

All these things are leading to part of hunting I think that has changed the game and not for the better! Kind of sad!

Use the Internet or computer assisted remote technology while hunting or fishing. This includes unmanned or remote control drones used to look for wildlife. Hunters and anglers must be physically present in the immediate vicinity while hunting and fishing.

I am not sure if, "used to look for wildlife" includes scouting before the season or just during the hunting season.

I am totally against the use of drones for scouting and hunting purposes and had the pleasure of testifying against their use at a recent Wildlife Commission meeting.

My best, Paul

in the interest of debate, what if said hunter was disabled? What if he was a wounded vet with only one leg?

michael

As others have indicated, drones by themselves are incapable of doing bad things. It takes a man to complete the equation. We must legislate against drones in sport hunting, because we unfortunately can't legislate for ethics.

68 - 72 did my SEA tour 69 - 70...... I would carry the guy or gal if I had to.........

I know, I was just pointing out that there could easily be some unintended consequences on either side of the fence.

I always see people post...

"well they will use it for poaching..."

who cares, they are poachers, breaking the law is what they do.

I wouldn't personally use one and don't care for the thought of them buzzing around during hunting season, but I don't really see it as the government's role to say I can't legally fly a drone during the summer time if I want to. Since when should cost come in as a factor when making laws against something being right or wrong (for those saying its different or more unethical than scouting from a small plane because planes are more expensive to operate)?

I wouldn't personally use one and don't care for the thought of them buzzing around during hunting season, but I don't really see it as the government's role to say I can't legally fly a drone during the summer time if I want to. Since when should cost come in as a factor when making laws against something being right or wrong (for those saying its different or more unethical than scouting from a small plane because planes are more expensive to operate)?

You gotta admit though, they look like a lot of fun.

Better yet, live video feed with a remote control BB gun attached... that would be endless entertainment.

I bet I could train my neighbor's dog to STFU.

If theres money to be made in pursuit of antlers.. then they will be out there.

If you go spring grizzer bear hunting in AK, odds are you'll scout bears from the air. It's fair chase if you don't shoot the same day you fly.

Rich guys, landowners, and outfitters scout from super cubs and like aircraft all the time. It's legal, and fair chase so long as you don't shoot the same day.

Now a way that lower income guys can participate in an already legal and fair chase way to hunt comes along, and you guys condemn so we can have yet another double standard.

My expectation of government regulation is that everyone gets a level playing field. Instead of the level playing field, we let guys buy landowner tags to rob public draw hunters of their spot in the preference point line. And now we all condemn drones, but if you can pay a super cub pilot $500 an hour or buy a plane for $100k - its ok you can do it because your wallet is fatter.

Quit with the double standards guys. Its all legal or none of it should be legal. Its whats wrong with America, take your blinders off.