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Thinking about setting up a 50# Elite bow. Plan to shoot a 27" arrow. Thinking about using a 150 gr 2-blade BH. Would like some feedback on this equipment set-up.
Also interested in set-ups of others who use a 50# compound bow. Tks
Should work great for everything including elk.
What shaft and projected overall weight?
I shoot 150gr VPA's in my 50# recurve and my 70# compound.
Once you hold one in your hand…... all of the little 100gr replaceable blade heads feel chinsy….because they are.
Why wouldn't you want a stronger steel BH with more steel on the working end of your arrow?
Ohiohunter,
125 BH = 490 gr.- 17.8%foc
150 BD= 515 gr - 19.4%foc
400 spine Easton Axis shaft
It'll be a thumper for sure.
Cutthroats from rmsg. Toughest lil head I've had the pleasure to beat up. Well worth looking into. The Clums build a great head...
I switched to the 150G VPA head last year. They have been excellent so far. I had one nock failure and an arrow sailed( clean miss by miles) or I would be 100% on shots. They group well and have resulted in dead animals thus far.
I shoot 50# - 55# with no wheels and 2 blade heads with about the same overall arrow weight. I have total confidence in it and its worked great from elk on down. Only change I usually make is a 3 or 4 blade for turkeys.
150 Magnus Stingers are great as well. Some guys like the buzzcut version.
I appreciate all the feedback concerning the feasibility of 150 gr BH as part of my set up. Between your input and tech assistance from Easton Archery, I'm plan to give the 150's a try.
Plan to test the 150 gr 2-blade VPA. Design should be a plus with the lighter poundage bow.
Tks
Are you sure a 400 spine will be enough?
With 400s? I was shooting 400s at 28" 60 lbs, 29" DL and 125 grain heads and I thought I was on the edge. I could shoot the 400s with mechanical heads but fixed flew not so great. With 340 spine my fixed heads flew very good.
Actually I shot those 400s with 4" rt helical feathers.
Hutton,
What is your opinion of a 4 fletch, hard helical twist, 2" blazer?
Can I get away with 150gr VPA with 30" arrow, 28.5" draw at 65#? Arrows are 340 spine. Wasn't sure if I should drop to 300 to accommodate the 150 or stick with 125gr at my setup.
I would recommend our 150 grain 4 blade stinger buzzcut. penetrates like a two blade and the chisel serrations made a big hole and blood trail. thanks
Magnus or grizzly.
2 blade w/ 4 fletch = great stability and penetration
This afternoon I did a test run with a 150 gr. FP on a 400 spine Easton Super Slim shaft. Shaft has a 4-fletch /2" blazer Total arrow weight is 515 gr. Elite Pure bow set at 50#.
Shot 4 arrows through chronograph to obtain data. Findings were avg. arrow speed- 200 fps. Did calculations to determine KE and MO- KE-45.696 MO-.04569 Overall the arrows flew flawlessly out to 40 yds even with some mid wind conditions.
Found it interesting that from previous tests a Beman 500 spine shaft with a 100 gr. FP and 3-fletch 2"blazers (total arrow weight 420 gr. produced 225 fps with KE-47.166 and MO-.4192.
The differences between the two arrow setups are as follows:
-25 fps speed (400 vs 500); -1.47# KE (400 vs 500); +.3735 MO (400 vs 500).
SUMMARY (400 VS 500 Comparisons): Less speed, less KE and more MO. MO is penetration and penetration is key in killing.
Next test with be with VPA 2-blade (vented) 150 BH for flight performance. Will report on those test findings.
Couple of other posters above have pointed out a couple of awesome broadheads to try - VPA 3-Blade and Rocky Mountain Specialty Gear Cutthroat. I use the VPA 3-Blade 150 for most everything and have been very pleased with the terminal performance. I shot an elk last year with the 150 gr. Cutthroat and was very pleased with that one as well. Zipped thru like butter - ribs on both sides. Beautiful!
Yep, another vote for Magnus. Great broadheads if they fail it's usually might fault.
There are a lot of great heads on the market today. BH's are kinda like arguing Ford, Dodge, Chevrolet, Toyota. I am preferring the 2-blade for better penetration with lower poundage. I also prefer a one-piece, COC BH.
I do appreciate the opinions and welcome the input.
I think bleeders are underrated. A straight two-blade just leaves a thin slice in the hide whereas when you add a bleeder that gap can't close the same. I prefer bleeders on my "two blade" heads. I've shot phatheads and magnus stingers had good results with both. Phatheads are little more low profile, but also tough as nails.
i like the bleeders also, but they are a pain to sharpen.. three blade and two blade are.best for sharpening IMO..
i like the bleeders also, but they are a pain to sharpen.. three blade and two blade are.best for sharpening IMO..
Get the German Kinetics's 150 grain regular or the 150 grain XL its a two blade 1 1/2" cut.
i got a few dull ones you can try out and practice with - i think i have 6-7 new ones as well.
Iron Will Outfitters is releasing a 150 grain broadhead soon.
I've got a cheat that I use... I've only looked at this with Magnus Stingers (100s) and their older- model 125-grain jobs, but the factory-sharpened bleeders are already sharper than I can get them. So I get the mains as sharp as I can and I have the bleeders in there for good measure.
But I don't believe the hype on 3 or 4-blade designs opening up a "hole", because it matters more (IMHO) what you hit. I drilled a big-bodied whitetail square through the meat of the shoulder and centered the heart right at the top of both ventricles, but with all of those layers of hide, muscle, fat and connective tissue, there was exactly ONE pinhead of blood on the ground. And that was with a Thunderhead 125, which is not all that petite. 1 1/8", I think.
I do think I might have more blood on the ground, though, if I'd had an exit... But I hit the meat of the off shoulder as well, and the head stopped against the bone. COCs for me since, 'cuz 2 holes bleed more than one.
Sounds like the OP is set up really well.
The 150's have arrived. Hope to do some arrow flight testing soon. Stand by Houston !!
