Anyway, when I was looking at it, the top cam looked like it was leaning a good bit. The cam leaned to the right at the top.
After the shot I started looking closly and it does seem to lean. When you look at the bottom cam the buss cable is directly in line w/ the cam. The buss cable is not in line with the top cam. Could this be caused by the distance that the top cam is from the roller guard?
Also, the Proshop that I purchased the bow from is now out of buisness. If I need to have the top limb replaced (inacurratly drilled axel holes?)or the cam replaced, can I take it to another proshop and have them do the repair. (under waranty?)
Thanks,
Clif
With the Allegiance, Tribute, Airbornes etc. it is common to have cam lean. The top and bottom should be equal. If not something is amiss. One cable longer or a weaker limb. They shoot very accurate and are not bad at all to tune and keep tuned.
The reason one-cam bows have less cam lean is the split harness system that pulls on each side of the limb at the top. Many have cam lean with the bottom (cam).
There are drawbacks to everything. Binary have cam lean, single cams have nock travel and can eat the serving up on the string up top. Especially the shorter ones where the angle from the roller guard pulls the string over and it rolls up the back of the idler wheel at a severe angle.
Not criticising but that is just the facts and characteristics. Depends on what a guy wants. Some things are blowned out of proportion and "cam lean" happens to be one of them. But in severe cases I would do something about it.
Personally I have owned 3 binary bows - ally, gaurdian and 82nd. I have not noted significant lean on the 82, but I am sure there is some because it is the nature of the beast.
SOME may have cam lean for other reasons. SOMETIMES it matters.
The only bow with a visible design effort to stop it is the Darton 2.5 cams with it's mini-yoke system.
I have set up several 82nd Airbornes for guys who shoot at our shop and they are not exhibiting any noticeable lean and DO shoot very well.
Yes, the closer the cam is to the cable guard the more lean will be evident.
I have yet to see any bow that was demonstrated to matter on. A bow with normal lean shot through a Hooter Shooter still puts the same arrow into the same hole.
The bow shoots good and shoots bullet holes in paper. Arrow flight is good out beyond 40 yards.
The setup on the bow just looks wrong!! The rest is set up just to the inside of center. The Sights are just to the outside of center. Everything that I know about bows tells me that something is wrong. Thats why I was looking to make sure that I'm not tourqing the bow and noticed that the top cam was leaning. My concern is that the top cam lean is causing the bow to require the odd set up.
I have read others say that they have to set up just inside of center, some say they have to set up just to the outside.
It could just be something that I'm doing wrong, but I'll be danged if I can find it. I'm not tourqing the bow, I've had a friend stand behind me while I'm shooting and he says that he can't see me tourqing.
I hope ya'll understand my concerns, when you pay what I paid for this bow you want it to be right. I don't want to be having any doubts about this bow when I head west in September.
Clif
It does take quiote a bit of noticable lean to create a tuning issue. Having said that, I have owned 3 bows (Darton, Hoyt, Bowtech) that had enough cam lean to where FBBH's and FP's would not group together. The Darton was hot rodded and the limb just weakened over time, the Hoyt was cleaned up through balancing the yoke, and the BT limb cracked right after I noticed the lean. Sometimes it matters, some time it doesn't. Some times it is fixable, and some times it isn't. IMO this is another case where you should base your estimate of severity over what the arrows do on the target rather than what the cam looks like at full draw.
Every bow I set up has the pins just outside of the arrow tip so what is the problem? If you expect all the parts to line up you will be disappointed every time! I have yet to see one that does!
Well if that is the case, mine is like yours, and I am little worried to.
That said the bows shoot great, but the possibility that the lean increase more make me a little nervous.
