2011 Head2Head Bow Test Voting - OPEN!!
Equipment
Contributors to this thread:
Jon E. Silks @ Work's Link
It is time to vote on the bows that YOU want to see in our annual Head2Head Bow Test. With many excellent bows all over the place in regard to specs we will do a 2 part test again this year: Shooter’s Bows and Speed Bows. The Shooter’s Bows must have an advertised IBO of 334 fps or below and the Speed Bows must have an advertised IBO speed at 335 or above. If a bow has a range of IBO speed the lower number in that range will be used to place the bow. For instance if a bow is 330-340 fps IBO it would go into the Shooter’s Bows category. I did a little digging and here is just an example of the new bows on the market this year (pick what you want – this is just a list designed to give you an idea of what is out there and do some of the legwork on looking up IBO speeds):
Shooter’s Bows • Martin FireCat 360 (315-320 fps) • Darton DS4500 (315-320) • PSE Vendetta XS (322-330) • Mathews Z7 Xtreme ( up to 330) • Hoyt CRX32 (323) • Bowtech Specialist (330) • Athens Accomplice (330) • Bear Assault (328) • Strother Vanquish (333) • Elite Pure (326-330) • G5 Prime Shift (332)
Speed Bows • Martin FireCat 400 (335-345) • Darton DS3800 (345-350) • PSE EVO Dream Season (337-345) • Mathews Z7 Magnum (up to 340) • Hoyt AlphaBurner (340) • Bowtech Invasion CPX (343) • Athens Afflixtion (337) • Bear Carnage (345) • Strother SX1 (347) • Elite Pulse (340-343)
This is just a short list – there are many more out there.
One vote per registered user please. Just name the bow and the category.
Bow Company A, model 1 – Shooter’s Bow Bow Company B, model 2 – Speed Bow
All additional conversation should be brought up on another thread.
The voting period will be short this year so get your vote in right away.
shooters bow-----------APA Viper V7
Speed Bow--------------APA Mamba M7
A - Mathews z7 Xtreme
B -Hoyt Alphaburner
shooters mathews extreme speed dream season evo
A-PRIME Centroid B-Hoyt Afterburner
Shooter; G5 Prime Centroid
Speed; Strother Sx-1
"Shooter Bow. Elite Hunter Speed Bow. No Interest"
x2
speed bow: bowtech destroyer 350
notfastbutaccurate's Link
Shooter----->>>> G5 Prime Shift Speed------>>>> PSE EVO
-shooter bow-elite pure,speed bow-dont care,maybe z7extreme?
Shooters bow- Elite Pure, speed bow- Darton DS-3800
Shooter - Bowtech Specialist
Speed - Bowtech Invasion
Shooter bow - Hoyt CRX32 Speed Bow - Bear carnage
Shooter --> Hoyt Carbon Matrix Plus
Speed --> Darton DS-3800
Elite Hunter,
Elite Pulse
APA VIPER V7 Shooter & Darton 3800 Speed
Hoyt CRX 32, Hoyt Alphaburner
Bowtech Invasion
Elite Pure
Shooter’s Bows - Mathews Z7 Xtreme
Speed Bow - PSE EVO Dream Season (337-345)
Shooter- Bowtech Assassin
Speed- Hoyt Alphaburner
Speed bow Bear Carnage Shooter bow Elite Hunter
Shooter - PSE vendetta XL. Speed- PSE dream season evo.
Shooter-Z7 Extreme, Speed-Elite Pulse
BOWTECH 82ND AIRBOURNE & BLACK KNIGHT PRO DUALLY
Shooter: Hoyt Carbon Element Speed: Bowtech Invasion
Elite Hunter – Shooter’s Bow
Hoyt AlphaBurner (340) – Speed Bow
Shooter PSE Vendetta Speed PSE EVO
Bowtech Assassin
Bowtech Invasion
HOYT CARBON ELEMENT HOYT ALPHABURNER
Speed - Bowtech Invasion Shooter-Bowtech Specialist
Shooter- Elite pure Speed- APA Mamba m7 (Because i cant get one to try my self!!)
Shooter Bow - PSE Vendetta XL
Speed Bow - Bowtech Invasion
Shooter - Hoyt Carbon Element Speed - Bowtech Invasion
Shooter: Hoyt CRX 32
Speed: Hoyt Alphaburner
Shooter-Pearson Advantage Speed-PSE EVO Dream Season
Elite pure -shooters
Elite Pulse-Speed
Shooter Hoyt CRX 35
Speed Athens Afflixtion
Elite Hunter 29-60
Hoyt Maxxis 29-60
Which one is smoother to draw....
Shooter bow: Quest Primal Speed Bow: I don't care
Shooter Hoyt CRX 35
Speed Darton DS 3800
Shooter Bow = no interest--- Speed Bow = bowtech invasion CPX
shooter - Elite Hunter
Speed - Elite Pulse
K&K Vengeance Pick the smooth or speed mods to clasify it.
Shooter Z7 Speed Z7 maxium
Shooter - HOYT CARBON ELEMENT Speed - HOYT ALPHABURNER
I sure hope the team will test the Hoyt CRX and the Element. Would be a shame to leave either out.
This is the count I have so far....just FYI as I have zero to do with actual testing. I also had to make a few assumptions based on what was said. Additionally, are we limiting it to new 2011 models? There are a few that are older (Z7, Primal, 82nd Airbourne, etc) but still produced?? Anyways...here it is including "Elkhunter - Home" vote.
Shooter Bow
Elite Hunter - 7
Elite Pure - 7
Hoyt CRX32 - 7
Hoyt Carbon Element - 6
Mathews Z7 X-treme - 5
PSE Vendetta XL - 3
APA Viper V7 - 2
G5 Prime Centroid - 2
G5 Prime Shift - 2
Bowtech Specialist - 2
Bowtech Assassin - 2
Hoyt CRX35 - 2
Mathews Z7 - 2
Mathews Z9 - 1
Hoyt Carbon Matrix Plus - 1
Martin Onza - 1
Athens Accomplice (32 or 34?) - 1
Pearson Advantage - 1
Quest Primal - 1
Kodiak Nomad - 1
Speed Bows
Hoyt AlphaBurner - 11
Bowtech Invasion - 9
PSE Dream Season EVO - 6
Elite Pulse - 6
Darton DS-3800 - 5
APA Mamba M7 - 2
Bowtech Destroyer 350 - 2
Bear Carnage - 2
Athens Afflixion - 2
Strother SX-1 - 1
K&K Vengeance (speed mods?) - 1
Z7 Magnum - 1
Bowtech 82nd Airbourne - 1
Rytera nemesis- speed bow
Rytera nemesis- speed bow
Bear Carnage
Bear Assault
Shooters = Mathews Z7 Extreme
Speed = Mathews Z7 Magnum
Larv
Elite Hunter (shooter) Elite Pulse(speed)
Speed- Winchester Quicksilver 34 Shooter- Bowtech Specialist
Speed bow- PSE Evo
Shooters bow- PSE Vendetta XS
Shooter Hoyt Carbon Element
Shooter --> Hoyt Carbon Matrix Plus
Speed---> who cares.
shotter hoyt cxr-speed alpha burner
Price range categories would be great.
Elite Hunter-shooters Elite Pulse-Speed
Shooter - Bowtech specialist
Speed bow - Bowtech invasion
Shooter: Hoyt Carbon Element
Speed: Hoyt Alphaburner
Shooter - PSE Speed - PSE
Bowtech Assasin
Bowtech Invasion
shooter: Bowtech Specialist
speed: Hoyt Alphaburner
shooters bow-APA Viper V7
Speed Bow-APA Mamba M7
Shooter’s Bows • Darton DS4500, Speed Bows • Darton DS3800
spped Bear Carnage shooter Forge Ventilator 34" I would like to know if it can reach 325 fps with a 8 1/4" brace
shooters-APA Viper V7 speed-APA Mamba M7
Jon E. Silks - SO's Link
Thank you CAS-HNTR for the tally.
A note about the Hoyt Carbon Element (CE): I am not sure I will allow the CE into the test. Why? Price point. It retails much higher than any of the other bows that will most likely be in the test. I know we have gone the other way with very low price point bows (Bear Instinct) with good results, however, in my opinion this is a different situation and one that causes me to hesitate. If I decide not to allow the CE I will transfer those votes to the Hoyt CRX32.
As always, your thoughts on this or any other issue relating to the test are welcome. All I ask is that you start another thread to discuss it so this thread stays focused on voting. I will look for any additional threads in case there are any questions for me.
Jon
Shooters bow-APA Viper V7
Speed Bow-APA Mamba M7
Shooter HOYT CARBON ELEMENT
Speed Hoyt AlphaBurner
shooter - athens accomplice
speed - strother sx1
c'mon guys, we know the 'hoytechthews' will be well represented, let's get some other mfrs.
We need more votes - many more votes...
Shooter Hoyt Element vs. mathews ez7
Shooter Darton DS4500 Speed Darton DS3800
mathews Z7 Extreme vs Bear Carnage
Jon, too late,,,, got my Elite Pure already. That is one sweet bow. Jay
Prime Centroid - shooters bow Elite Pulse - speed bow
Shooter bow: Elite Hunter.
Shooter bow: Elite Hunter.
Elite Hunter
Bear Carnage
A.CARBON MATRIX PLUS
B. ALPHA BURNER
Shooters bow, Hoyt Alpha Elite. Speed bow, Elte Pulse.
Shooters Bow Darton DS4500 Speed Bow Darton DS3800
VOTE if you haven't already! Every year guys say they missed this chance to vote thread! Do it now! C
Shooter Bow
Hoyt Carbon Element - 12
Elite Hunter - 11
Elite Pure - 9
Hoyt CRX32 - 8
Mathews Z7 X-treme - 8
PSE Vendetta XL - 5
APA Viper V7 - 5
Bowetech Specialist - 5
G5 Prime Centroid - 3
Bowtech Assassin - 3
Hoyt Carbon Matrix Plus - 3
Darton DS4500 - 3
G5 Prime Shift - 2
Hoyt CRX35 - 2
Mathews Z7 - 2
Mathews Z9 - 2
Athens Accomplice (32 or 34?) - 2
Martin Onza - 1
Pearson Advantage - 1
Quest Primal - 1
Kodiak Nomad - 1
Bear Assault - 1
Forge Ventilator - 1
Mathews EZ7 - 1
Hoyt Alpha Elite - 1
Speed Bow
Hoyt AlphaBurner - 16
Bowtech Invasion - 12
Elite Pulse - 10
PSE Dream Season EVO - 9
Darton DS-3800 - 8
Bear Carnage - 6
APA Mamba M7 - 5
Mathews Z7 Magnum - 3
Bowtech Destroyer 350 - 2
Athens Afflixion - 2
Strother SX-1 - 2
K&K Vengeance (speed mods) - 1
Bowtech 82nd Airbourne - 1
Black Knight Pro-Dually - 1
Rytera Nemesis - 1
Winchester Quicksilver 34 - 1
PSE Omen Pro - 1
Shooter - Bowtech Specialist
Speed - Bowtech Invasion
Shooter: Martin Onza Speed: Martin Firecat 400
Smooth: Elite Hunter Speed: Elite Pulse
PSE Evo and Bow Tech Invation
Speed bow- Mathews Z7 Magnum Speed bow - Mathews MR6
Speed Bow- PSE Dream Season Evo Shooter's Bow- Hoyt CRX32
shooter - hoyt crx 32 speed - hoyt alpha burner
Bear Carnage for either category.
Shooters---diamond fugitive speed---daimond dead eye
Bowtech Invasion, Hoyt Alphaburner
Bow tech destroyer 350 Bow tech assasin
Shooters-Prime Speed-PSE EVO
Bear Assault - shooters bow Mathews Z7 Magnum - speed bow
shooter: Mathews Z7 speed: Elite Pulse
Shooters Bow.............Martin FireCat 360
Speed Bow................Bowtech Invasion CPX
shooter Mathews Z7 Extreme Speed Bowtech Invasion
I would like to see some broad head test with th G5 Prime. If you need someone to test that bow send one this way. I'm right handed and have a 27inch draw Thanx Bud Wright The Wright Place
shooter: Athens Accomplice; Speed: PSE evo
shooter diamond rock 11
speed bow tech invasion
I need to change catagory for the K&K Vengeance to shooter bow with smooth mods. Just found out it's only 334 to 338 with speed mods. sorry guys.
shooters bow - Bowtech Assassin
speed bow - Bear Carnage
You listed all second rate training wheel bows. Where's the Oneida's, leaders of the pack!!!!
Shooter Elite Pure
Speed Elite Pulse
Shooter - Elite Pure Speed - Mathews Z7 Magnum
Shooters Bow Bowtech Specailist
Speed bow - K&K Vengeance Shooter Bow - K&K Vindicator
Elite pure shooter elite pulse speed
Shooter's Bow: Mathews Z7 Xtreme
Speed Bow: Mathews Z7 Magnum
Just bought a CRX 32... so crx32 and alpha burner.
Elite Hunter for shooter Speed BOW eLITE PULSE
A Elite Hunter B Elite Pulse
Shooter: Hoyt Carbon Element Speed: Bowtech Invasion
I would like to close this out soon and get things rolling. Please vote now if you haven't already. Thanks
Jon
I would like to see the darton bows or maybe the darton 2800
can i vote again? 2 more votes for the APA line!
Matthews Z7... Bowtech Destroyer 350
Athens, need some new competition in there
Id like to see the new Carbon Tech Phantom tested and the new Maitland Zues and retribution.
Athens Afflixion - Speed Bow
????
Anyone else?
Voting is down from past years...
can we get a current count?
I will count them later today
PSE, Vendetta XL – Shooter’s Bow
Strother, SX-1 – Speed Bow
BOWTECH DESTROYER 350 BOWTECH INVASION BOWTECH ASSASIN
Shooting - Bowtech Assassin
Speed - Bear Carnage
Shooters = Mathews Z7 Extreme
Speed = Mathews Z7 Magnum
Shooters = Bowtech Assasin
Speed = Bear Carnage
Shooter Bow
Hoyt Carbon Element - 17
Elite Hunter - 14
Elite Pure - 13
Mathews Z7 X-treme - 12
Hoyt CRX32 - 11
Bowtech Assassin - 8
Bowetech Specialist - 7
PSE Vendetta XL - 6
APA Viper V7 - 6
G5 Prime Centroid - 5
Darton DS4500 - 4
Mathews Z7 - 4
Athens Accomplice (32 or 34?) - 4
Hoyt Carbon Matrix Plus - 3
Hoyt CRX35 - 3
Martin Onza - 3
G5 Prime Shift - 2
Mathews Z9 - 2
Bear Assault - 2
Mathews EZ7 - 2
Pearson Advantage - 1
Quest Primal - 1
Kodiak Nomad - 1
Forge Ventilator - 1
Hoyt Alpha Elite - 1
Diamond Fugitive - 1
Martin Firecat 360 - 1
Diamond Rock 11 - 1
K&K Vindicator - 1
Maitland Retribution - 1
Speed Bow
Hoyt AlphaBurner - 18
Bowtech Invasion - 18
Elite Pulse - 17
PSE Dream Season EVO - 15
Bear Carnage - 12
Darton DS-3800 - 9
Mathews Z7 Magnum - 8
APA Mamba M7 - 5
Athens Afflixion - 5
Bowtech Destroyer 350 - 4
Strother SX-1 - 3
K&K Vengeance - 2
Bowtech 82nd Airbourne - 1
Black Knight Pro-Dually - 1
Rytera Nemesis - 1
Winchester Quicksilver 34 - 1
PSE Omen Pro - 1
Martin Firecat 400 - 1
Diamond Deadeye - 1
High Country X11 - 1
Maitland Retribution - 1
shooter bow Elite hunter speed bow no interest
Shooter bow K&K Vindicator Speed bow K&K Vegeance
Voting will end this weekend - please vote now if you haven't already.
Jon E. Silks
Bowtech Specialist, Bowtech Invasion
Bowtech Destroyer 340
Mathews Z7 Magnum
Shooters bow--Athens Accomplice Speed bow--Athens Afflixtion
Shooter - Athens Accomplice Speed - Mathews Z7 Magnum
Shooters bow - Elite Hunter
Speed bow - Athens Ibex
Closing this down in a couple of hours - vote now.
Mathews spends 200 dollars of each bow purchased, on advertsing, wow
Shooter: Hoyt CRX32 Speed: Bear Carnage