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A NM Backdoor Is Open
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Contributors to this thread:
Darrell 13-Apr-16
smarba 13-Apr-16
tacklebox 13-Apr-16
ohiohunter 13-Apr-16
SteveB 13-Apr-16
Darrell 13-Apr-16
Barrera 14-Apr-16
willliamtell 14-Apr-16
SteveB 14-Apr-16
Shiras 14-Apr-16
ohiohunter 14-Apr-16
moch 14-Apr-16
Norseman 14-Apr-16
ohiohunter 14-Apr-16
IdyllwildArcher 14-Apr-16
moch 15-Apr-16
Norseman 15-Apr-16
Teeton 16-Apr-16
Darrell 16-Apr-16
ohiohunter 16-Apr-16
Norseman 16-Apr-16
78cj5 17-Apr-16
Darrell 19-Apr-16
5575 19-Apr-16
Darrell 19-Apr-16
Darrell 19-Apr-16
Teeton 19-Apr-16
elkstabber 20-Apr-16
Darrell 20-Apr-16
moch 20-Apr-16
NoWiser 20-Apr-16
LINK 20-Apr-16
elkstabber 20-Apr-16
NoWiser 20-Apr-16
bradbear 20-Apr-16
Brijake 20-Apr-16
LINK 20-Apr-16
Brijake 20-Apr-16
LINK 20-Apr-16
Brijake 20-Apr-16
elkstabber 20-Apr-16
NoWiser 20-Apr-16
Jgrossetete 20-Apr-16
elkstabber 20-Apr-16
Bowfreak 20-Apr-16
NoWiser 20-Apr-16
elkstabber 20-Apr-16
NoWiser 20-Apr-16
elkstabber 20-Apr-16
HDE 20-Apr-16
ohiohunter 20-Apr-16
moch 20-Apr-16
elkstabber 20-Apr-16
ohiohunter 20-Apr-16
splitlimb13 20-Apr-16
HDE 21-Apr-16
lineman21 21-Apr-16
splitlimb13 21-Apr-16
lineman21 21-Apr-16
Mfresh222 21-Apr-16
Tberg 21-Apr-16
Barrera 21-Apr-16
Bowfreak 21-Apr-16
HDE 21-Apr-16
Quinn @work 21-Apr-16
Mfresh222 21-Apr-16
Quinn @work 21-Apr-16
KHNC 21-Apr-16
TD 21-Apr-16
elkstabber 21-Apr-16
ohiohunter 22-Apr-16
Brijake 22-Apr-16
bradbear 22-Apr-16
butcherboy 22-Apr-16
From: Darrell
13-Apr-16
Guaranteed working back door right now! You will know your result if you follow this simple procedure.

1. Log into your account

2. Select "Draw Hunt Applications."

3. Click on "Delete Application" in upper right hand corner

4. Click "Confirm Delete" on next window.

If it allows you to delete your application you will not draw the tag.

This method is a guaranteed way to know you are not drawing this year until they remove the ability to delete the application because the draw is finally starting. Once they actually start the draw, you will not be able to delete your application.

So, we need someone different to do this every day until it won't let you anymore and that way the rest of us can know when the draw actually starts. Any volunteers?

SURELY NO ONE WILL ACTUALLY TRY THIS. I would feel a little bad if they did, unless of course they were competing with me for one of my choices.

From: smarba
13-Apr-16
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: tacklebox
13-Apr-16
lmbo..

From: ohiohunter
13-Apr-16
Oooops!

From: SteveB
13-Apr-16
Nice try Darrell!!

From: Darrell
13-Apr-16
Not a "try" Steve. Just an avoidance of work I don't want to do so a momentary diversion of humor. :)

Did you put in for NM this year? Doug and I put in for 36 as an extremely long shot for our first choice and then the unit you hunted with us for our second and third choices.

From: Barrera
14-Apr-16
Lol that's a great post and thanks for just increasing my odds. I owe you lunch now.

From: willliamtell
14-Apr-16
Good April 1 post

From: SteveB
14-Apr-16
Darrell, I took a long shot at unit 34.....but quite doubtful.

That was funny!

From: Shiras
14-Apr-16
15 first choice...Long shot, but gotta try.

From: ohiohunter
14-Apr-16
Shoot, 55 first choice! But I've gone undrawn the past 2yrs so I think I'm due.

34 and 36 archery aren't too bad of odds as a resident, there are worse for sure. Now rifle is a long shot, less than 10%.

From: moch
14-Apr-16
as a resident I got apps in for every species except Antelope. went 16D rifle straight across on elk. slim odds but archery conflicted with my AZ hunts this year and my wife drew an early season Elk Tag.

From: Norseman
14-Apr-16
Got me!!!

Good one!

From: ohiohunter
14-Apr-16
Did you know you had high odds in AZ when you put in for NM? I'd like to put in for another state as a back up plan, but am so unfamiliar w/ them and their regs are like reading ikea instrucctions in chineese backwards.

14-Apr-16

IdyllwildArcher's embedded Photo
IdyllwildArcher's embedded Photo
Everyone should do this.

From: moch
15-Apr-16
I actually thought I would Draw AZ with 15 points as my wife and I both have lifetime licenses there so we go in the resident draw. after looking at list of high point holders in the resident draw I really figured I was in. NOT, but she drew a top notch tag with only 6 points. thus I stayed away from NM archery because the dates conflicted, was just playing on a hunch. Next year I will face the say situation. Good luck to everyone in the NM draw, 12 days and counting.

From: Norseman
15-Apr-16
Can't wait ,.as my entire summer and fall schedule is on hold.

From: Teeton
16-Apr-16
Nope, draw didn't start yet!! :)

From: Darrell
16-Apr-16
Teeton,

So did you delete your app as a public service to the rest of us? Is that how you know it hasn't started yet? :)

From: ohiohunter
16-Apr-16
I ran into a g&f officer and tried to open his backdoor, didn't go so well.

From: Norseman
16-Apr-16
NSS

From: 78cj5
17-Apr-16

78cj5's embedded Photo
78cj5's embedded Photo
I don't know what you all are complaining about. I got rid of all the personal info. and am going turkey hunting for the next week so enjoy. Hopefully the picture comes through.

From: Darrell
19-Apr-16
Deleting the application is no longer an option so we are getting close.

From: 5575
19-Apr-16
mmmmmm

From: Darrell
19-Apr-16
5575

I am not buying that unless someone reports that it won't let them buy a general tag. That was the backdoor a couple years ago. I am guessing they are not letting that work again.

However, if someone figures out a backdoor, please send me a PM.

From: Darrell
19-Apr-16

Darrell's embedded Photo
Darrell's embedded Photo
This is what I believe NMG&F is doing to us. :)

From: Teeton
19-Apr-16
Darrell, Yes I did what you said so draw didn't start...:)

From: elkstabber
20-Apr-16

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elkstabber's embedded Photo
I requested a refund if I didn't draw. This is what I got when I just tried to purchase one.

From: Darrell
20-Apr-16
Elkstabber, That is not good news for me. I don't get that message. I won't be convinced until there is more data but . . . I don't like what it appears to be saying. Hopefully that is just NMG&F changing things up to close down the back doors.

From: moch
20-Apr-16
Count some sheep folks, only six days. Relax, breath in , breath out.

From: NoWiser
20-Apr-16
I don't get that message, either. It wouldn't surprise me if it's an indicator that you drew. I put in for almost impossible tags so don't expect to draw.

From: LINK
20-Apr-16

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LINK's embedded Photo
I get the same as elk stabbed. I thought in the past you had to try to purchase an elk tag not the license for it to work? I don't understand because my general license should have expired April 1 as all of ours should have. When trying to purchase a private ranch elk tag it lets me get to the place of entering ranch numbers.

From: elkstabber
20-Apr-16
So you're saying there's a chance?

From: NoWiser
20-Apr-16
Not being able to purchase a general hunting license was an indicator that I drew in 2014.

From: bradbear
20-Apr-16
It will let me purchase a general license so if this is true I am getting a refund

From: Brijake
20-Apr-16
elkstabber and Link, Did you ask for a refund on your general license if you did not draw? If you didn't ask for a refund, that is the message you would get.

From: LINK
20-Apr-16
Don't recall. I must have.

From: Brijake
20-Apr-16
You can go in and print your license and it will show you if you asked for one.

From: LINK
20-Apr-16

LINK's embedded Photo
LINK's embedded Photo
It says no refund.

From: Brijake
20-Apr-16
So that is why you can't buy another one. Not a back door to draw results, so back to waiting!

From: elkstabber
20-Apr-16

elkstabber's embedded Photo
elkstabber's embedded Photo
I requested a refund. Mine looks like this.

From: NoWiser
20-Apr-16
elkstabber,

Look at the receipt for your Game Hunt Combo, not your license purchases.

From: Jgrossetete
20-Apr-16
I like backdoors

From: elkstabber
20-Apr-16
NoWiser - Where do I find the Game Hunt Combo?

From: Bowfreak
20-Apr-16
I am as excited as the next guy to see results but I will just wait. LOL!

From: NoWiser
20-Apr-16

NoWiser's embedded Photo
NoWiser's embedded Photo
I have it circled in red. It's in the "My Purchases" tab. If you click on that, you should be able to see on the receipt whether or not you asked for a refund.

From: elkstabber
20-Apr-16

elkstabber's embedded Photo
elkstabber's embedded Photo
This reinforces my memory that I asked for a refund.

Here is a screen shot from the Game Hunt combo. Now what does this mean?

From: NoWiser
20-Apr-16
I'd say it's not bad news, but I really don't have a clue.

Good luck!

From: elkstabber
20-Apr-16
Thanks NoWiser. We need more data from other people still.

From: HDE
20-Apr-16
I'll bet NMG&F are having a hayday with this.

Why it's such a big deal to let people find out early is beyond me...

From: ohiohunter
20-Apr-16
So they can start practicing 2 days early and get a jump on all the good gear before its bought up!

From: moch
20-Apr-16
LOL!!!!

From: elkstabber
20-Apr-16
This is Christmas for elk hunters. Hey, what's wrong with shaking the presents under the tree? We're just not allowed to open them yet.

From: ohiohunter
20-Apr-16
Did I say "they"? I meant WE, we all came to this thread for a reason. No use denying it your signature says it all.

From: splitlimb13
20-Apr-16
Elkstabber congrats, unless you have unpayed child support etc. Ur good on one species just don't know what.

From: HDE
21-Apr-16
Backdoor is open. The only problem, is that it's to the mud room and the door to the kitchen is still shut (and locked).

From: lineman21
21-Apr-16
It lets me purchase a general hunting license....so.....

From: splitlimb13
21-Apr-16
Lineman did you ask for a refund if you were not successful?

From: lineman21
21-Apr-16
Yes I did.

From: Mfresh222
21-Apr-16
Elkstabber, not trying to rain on your parade but is the reason you are not allowed to purchse a game license becuase you already have one in your shopping cart? it looks like it form the message up top. I still havent seen this "game license backdoor" work for anyone this year unless we all struck out. If someone has seen it work please let us know.

From: Tberg
21-Apr-16

From: Barrera
21-Apr-16
There was a brief backdoor last night. It was only through veterans applications. My buddy is a vet at we got elk and deer. Struck out on oryx and antelope.

From: Bowfreak
21-Apr-16
I heard the same thing from am active military member. Based on his report to me he should quit applying for tags and play the lottery. He drew pretty much every tag possible. Elk, oryx and Barbary Sheep.

From: HDE
21-Apr-16
may be one of those things you gotta catch just right

From: Quinn @work
21-Apr-16
I asked for the game license refund and the system will now let me buy a game license. Assuming that's a no-draw cause last year when I drew I couldn't purchase the game license online after the draw.

From: Mfresh222
21-Apr-16
quinn dont assume that, with as hard as G&F tried to lockdown backdoors it wouldnt suprise me if that took that one too. We have no proof that it works this year.

From: Quinn @work
21-Apr-16
With about a 3% chance of drawing the tag I applied for it didn't surprise me.

From: KHNC
21-Apr-16
I asked for a refund. I just checked. It will allow me to purchase a license even tho I added one for the draw. Not looking too good.

From: TD
21-Apr-16
Darrell..... I'd say it's looking better and better for ya.... LOL!

From: elkstabber
21-Apr-16
When I tried today to purchase a Game License it would let me. It didn't let me yesterday (see the above screen shots). I'm guessing this means that the "backdoor" is closed if it was ever open. Last year the backdoor worked for one day and it was exactly a week before the official results came out. Yesterday was one week before the official results are expected.

Who knows? But I am glad that the NMG&F draw is one of the fastest in the West with a five week waiting time. Only WY is faster for NRs. AZ and UT are ten weeks:(

Good Luck!!!

From: ohiohunter
22-Apr-16
"quinn dont assume that, with as hard as G&F tried to lockdown backdoors it wouldnt suprise me if that took that one too. We have no proof that it works this year."

Mfresh.. What proof from last year is missing this year? We never know if the backdoor is 100%.

From: Brijake
22-Apr-16
For me and many of my friends, previous years backdoors have unfortunately been spot on.

It would be interesting to see if anyone has had a different experience?

From: bradbear
22-Apr-16
I find it hard to be true as I KNEW I would draw my sheep tag!!!!

From: butcherboy
22-Apr-16
I'm excited too but you guys are cracking me up! I remember the days of paper applications and waiting until June and sometimes July to find out if you drew by mail! No internet or backdoors back then.

I think the "backdoor" should be called "poop shoot" because we all know where our hopes and dreams go for drawing a tag. Out the shoot and straight into the crapper. LOL

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