Sitka Gear
Newbie Questions - equipment?
Bowfishing
Contributors to this thread:
TJS 14-Apr-14
MTcountryboy 14-Apr-14
TJS 15-Apr-14
mountainman 15-Apr-14
APauls 15-Apr-14
ROGUE 1 15-Apr-14
Beendare 15-Apr-14
TJS 15-Apr-14
Bushbow 15-Apr-14
MTcountryboy 15-Apr-14
Txnrog 16-Apr-14
TJS 16-Apr-14
glacier 16-Apr-14
passing... thru 17-Apr-14
passing... thru 17-Apr-14
passing... thru 17-Apr-14
TJS 17-Apr-14
From: TJS
14-Apr-14
I'd like to set up an older Parker Buck Hunter compound for some bowfishing. I would appreciate some guidance on equipment. Was looking at AMS basic set up, then saw many here (my main source) speak highly of the muzzy reel. What would I need for a decent setup, though I don't want to break the bank.

Can I shoot through a whisker biscuit? Should I just get basic fiberglass arrows? Basic help would be appreciated!!!!

Thank You

From: MTcountryboy
14-Apr-14
AMS works pretty good

can't speak of the muzzy reel

Whisker biscuit won't hold up very long to the heavy fiberglass arrows.....I tried one and the arrow would actually fall through the whiskers....the rest that comes with the ams is ok.....

turn your bow down.....45-55 is plenty.....70 is really hard on arrows...or at least was for me....may not be the case if your shooting in deep water.

what are you shooting?.....if your just shooting carp I would use the basic fiberglass......buffalo or paddlefish....I would use better arrows and better heads.

From: TJS
15-Apr-14
Thanks for reply. Am targeting carp for now.

From: mountainman
15-Apr-14
I've used an AMS reel for years with no issues. I also use a solid type rest.

I use fiberglass for everything. Have fun! It sure is addictive.

From: APauls
15-Apr-14
If you're starting out you don't need a reel. I've been shooting carp for probably 7 years and I've never owned a reel. $10 fish arrow and you're good to go. Tie on some heavy line and just spool it up close where you are standing. Tie one end on to canoe/boat or your leg whatever and let er go. No one I know owns a reel and we all pound carp. Biggest we shoot is 40lbs cause that's the biggest we've seen and have no issues.

Just for what it's worth you can save some serious money. If you decide you love and it and want the convenience of a reel giver but to get started all you need is a fish arrow and some line. We shoot em out of a canoe mainly sometimes off shore.

From: ROGUE 1
15-Apr-14
TJS, do a search on arrow "safety slide" if you use a bow mounted reel of any type, you will need one of these.

Have Fun and remember to "aim low" !

From: Beendare
15-Apr-14
I've been carp shooting many years.

I prefer the Muzzy reel over the AMS. You will need reel, screw in reel holder and some prefer a short line guide.

A solid or roller rest is best, many just form one from epoxy putty. I don't use the slides and just tie to the back of the arrow but you have to re-tie the loop after a dozen fish or so. Using 200# FF never had one or seen one not break off.....YMMV

From: TJS
15-Apr-14
Thanks for input! I'm listening.

From: Bushbow
15-Apr-14
You will prefer a reel or AMS 100/1 over a hand spool. Worth the investment for sure. I like the reel for the retrieve ratio but many prefer AMS and there is NO right answer as both have their advantages. I strongly suggest slides or cable rigs over tying to the back of the arrow. You can make cable rigs on the cheap. Safety here is the key and if you google it you can find some pretty gruesome events from line getting caught on the bow or your finger - OUCH or worse. the arrow comes back as quick as it plays out - not good.

If you like it - and it is pretty addictive. I suggest a light 40-/45lb recurve set up for fishing. Lot less to get tangled up and you are not shooting your hunting bow or getting fish guts, eggs, swamp gunk and crud on it. You will also likely bang your gear around a lot in the boat when the action gets hot and heavy. The fiberglass arrows are heavy but not heavy spined so it does not take much bow to shoot them at fishing distances. A recurve shoots off the shelf really well too - a good thing for fishing.

Another good practice is to have multiple arrows rigged and ready because nothing is a bigger downer than loosing your only or last arrow when on an outing and if you fish much you will loose arrows.

As far as arrows cut the knocks off and make self nocks in the end of the fiber glass shaft so when you hit a rock the nocks can't pop off - another bad buzz when fishing. Cut the stupid plastic fletching off too - it is just decoration. and arrow with a 200lbs fast flight string tied to it flies straight - it has no other place to go.

If you go with the reel get some spray silicone and dowse the inside of the reel before every outing. Good for the reel and your line will peel off like it is not there. Works sweet - trust me.

There are times when the fish are spawning that you will shoot hundreds in a day - it gets intense and dbls and triples are common. Have fun

From: MTcountryboy
15-Apr-14
use a slide for sure.....bow fishing is about the only way you can shoot yourself in the face with your own bow.....a slide is no guarantee, but it helps keep the string out of the way.

From: Txnrog
16-Apr-14
We built our own setups when I was younger b/c we didn't know about manufactured bow fishing equipment. ( nor do I think there were quite as many choices)

Looking back it was fun (our 'fishing' arrows were carbon arrows with soudering rods in them for weight and a bent nail epoxy'd through the shaft) reels were zebco 808's with Dacron line on them.

Will save a lot of time just getting an AMS full setup. Reeling an AMS takes a little getting used to, but definitely an advantage not having to remember to push a button.

Definitely get safety slide rigs. I have had way too many arrows bounce back in our early experiments to do anything different.

Also nice to put finger rubbers on your string will be much more fun to shoot than a release or glove

From: TJS
16-Apr-14
Thank you all. Should be fun!

From: glacier
16-Apr-14
To get started, you can go with as much or as little investment as you like. As stated above, don't cheap out on the small investment of getting slides for the arrow.

Other than that, the Cajun spool will work just fine and it is really cheap. I have a buddy that rigged up a 2 liter pop bottle to wrap his line around and it spools off pretty easily. I will warn you, though, that you will most likely end up upgrading pretty quickly to an AMS or reel, since it can get tiresome having to re-spool your line after every shot.

Personally, when I got started, I got an AMS kit and put it on my old hunting bow (60 lb Bowtech Stalker) I turned it down as far as the book said I could, and it works just fine at about 50 lbs. I am using the cheap rest that came with the kit and it seems to be working just fine. A few years later, I bought a Fishhawk that was all set up, mostly so that buddies could go with me and I would have a bow that would work for anyone. That bow came with a roller rest, and it works just fine as well. Most people seem to bowfish with fingers and no sights, but I use sights and an old release. That just proves that you can have fun bowfishing with whatever equipment you like! Get a few different arrows with different types of points on them and you will quickly figure out which ones you prefer. I like the Muzzy stingrays because they are easier to get out if I only get halfway through a fish or if I stick an arrow into some cattail roots. My brother prefers the carp points, but I'm not sure of his reasons.

I don't have any experience with a reel like the zebcos, but I can certainly see some advantages to them. They will actually reel in a fish, where the AMS will retrieve the line, but you have to pull fish in hand over hand. With as well as I seem to shoot when bowfishing, I reel the line in without a fish a LOT more than I reel in fish. And I am sure that I would forget to push the button on the reels about half the time...

Most guys seem to prefer a boat, but I have never used a boat. I bank fish some of the local canals and wade in a few local reservoirs and rivers. I've never tried it at night , only daytime during the spawn. What ever you would like to try, get out there and have some fun flinging arrows at carp!

17-Apr-14

passing... thru's embedded Photo
passing... thru's embedded Photo
compound set up

17-Apr-14

passing... thru's embedded Photo
passing... thru's embedded Photo
recurve...

17-Apr-14

passing... thru's embedded Photo
passing... thru's embedded Photo
get a roller rest for fiberglass arrows

From: TJS
17-Apr-14
Thanks to all. Just ordered the AMS setup with two arrows and tips for carp. Need to get the "finger tabs" for string. I've read all and did some research on utube. I figured this was a pretty good way to start.

I have a float fishing trip with some guys coming up. They will be surprised when I pull this out for carp while they are plugging fishing for smallies.

I appreciate all the input!!!

  • Sitka Gear