where are you sleeping? (ie sleep low hunt high?)
are you getting above the elk pre-dawn?
are you marching straight up the mountain, or are you switch backing back and forth?
are you hoping to get eyes on the herd, and then going right down to them?
are you waiting for them to bed and hoping to cut them off when they get up again?
after the herd has bedded down in the morning or if you still don't know where the herd is, are you covering ground all day? are you calling as you go (cow call or bugle?)? are you sitting on water holes? are you setting up, calling softly a few times, waiting twenty minutes, and then moving a half mile or so and repeating the process?
if you know where the herd is bedded down, at what time are you setting up for your afternoon / evening hunt?
what else do you do on an average day in the back country?
2. No, never. Thermals are going down in the a.m.
3. Both. Whatevers the easiest way up to em
4. Yes. Then going UP to them while they feed
5. No. If they bed I'll wait till evening
6. Nope. I'm napping. If I knew nothing of where some elk might be I'd keep moving until I found VERY fresh sign.
7. 3:00 give or take. Set up outside the prvailing winds cuz mountain winds are terrible in the pm until close to last light.
8. Glass, drink water, eat snickers. I might sneak out to check some other spots for sign once I've got some bedded. Lots of miles. Stretch
1. Generally sleep low, but you can sleep high if you know approximately where the elk will be and can work around from the side.
2. Big mistake like otcWill says, don't do that.
3. Let the elk activity dictate how and where you go up the mountain. If you aren't having any activity and plan on continuing to hunt during the day, you eventually need to work your way up so that you are on the uphill side during the daytime thermals.
4. Laying eyes on your quarry from a distance is always a plus, but sometimes not possible or necessary, especially if you are trying to call them in. Let the thermals and/or wind direction determine your path to them.
5. Maybe they will bed, maybe they won't. I shot my bull during the rut last year around 11 a.m. He was up bugling and chasing a spike off a cow when I shot him. While I was trailing the bull there were other bulls moving back and forth between wallows and likely herd/bedding locations.
6. If you are new to the area I'd try to find out as much intel as possible. Sometimes I think this is a hunters biggest downfall though, as the odds of pushing elk around/out are fairly high if you don't know where you are going. Plenty of guys have luck sitting water holes if that is your thing. If you don't want to do either of these you can study maps, nap, hike up high and glass/enjoy the scenery, fetch extra water, fish, even play pine cone baseball if you have a partner to throw them to you.
7. I don't have a good feel for this one.
8. See my answer for #6.
Good Luck
Todd
Good Luck
Todd
If no nearby sounds I head out an hour before sun up and check some farther meadows trying to catch a bull before they head up to their bedding areas.
For the first few days, I only hunt the mornings and evenings if the elk are low and coming to the meadows. I stay out of their bedding areas not wanting to bust them out of the area.
Later in the week if the elk are not in the lower meadows or are leaving before light, I hike up in the dark towards their bedding areas but not straight up from camp but at least 1/3 miles off to the downwind side and wait half way up and listen and do some calling. As the winds start up the mountain, I head straight up to get above the bedding area or at least, up wind of the travel routes of the elk and try to head them off. Here I will do some cold calling and can scan down hill for any elk moving up.
Later, I will move along the contours above the bedding areas and will focus down hill looking for elk moving or bedding. Stopping every 400 yards to set up an ambush and call.
What else? Find a sun spot on the hillside, smell the flowers, and take a nap.
My best, Paul
The elk will move up or down depending on pressure. Rest mid day for sure. Move camp, or nap.
Seldom know where they are bedded, they usually go the steepest, thickest, blowdown bs, wet, nasty, stuff they can find.