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Got my elk officially scored, Yeehaww!
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Contributors to this thread:
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
sureshot 19-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
Charlie Rehor 19-Jan-15
Straight Shooter 19-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
t-roy 19-Jan-15
Medicinemann 19-Jan-15
qdm 19-Jan-15
IdyllwildArcher 19-Jan-15
cityhunter 19-Jan-15
Bowboy 19-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
Jack Harris 19-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
WV Mountaineer 19-Jan-15
Hawkeye 19-Jan-15
Mark Watkins 19-Jan-15
hdaman 19-Jan-15
hdaman 19-Jan-15
orionsbrother 19-Jan-15
bhunter 19-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
drycreek 19-Jan-15
Drahthaar 19-Jan-15
TREESTANDWOLF 19-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-15
bow assassin 19-Jan-15
Mule Power 20-Jan-15
Woodsman416 20-Jan-15
woodguy65 20-Jan-15
Fuzzy 20-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 20-Jan-15
Genesis 20-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 26-Jan-15
Julius K 26-Jan-15
Cajunarcher 26-Jan-15
Clutch 26-Jan-15
BO-N-ARO 26-Jan-15
t-roy 26-Jan-15
Dennis Razza 26-Jan-15
Jasper 26-Jan-15
Rayzor 26-Jan-15
Charlie Rehor 26-Jan-15
Barty1970 27-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 27-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 29-Jan-15
BOWUNTR 29-Jan-15
Trophy8 29-Jan-15
midwest 29-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 29-Jan-15
Mike Ukrainetz 29-Jan-15
19-Jan-15

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo

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I got it with my bow in Alberta back in September last year. I was very lucky to even see an elk of this calibre in our area with a 3 week bow season and a 2 1/2 month rifle season which starts right in the peak of the rut September 17th. Over the counter tags and all you have to find is a bull with 3 points on one side and you can shoot it. The thick woods is the only reason some bulls survive. Not sure how this guy made it to this age/size? Lucky for me he did! 345 gross, 332 net. Yeehaww!

From: sureshot
19-Jan-15
Way to get it done Mike! Looking forward to my moose hunt this fall. Jeff

19-Jan-15

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
The tale of the tape. Not that score means everything. It's just cool to get an exact score. Great mass is what really gives this bull character.

19-Jan-15

19-Jan-15
Well done Mike! C

19-Jan-15
Great bull, looks like he's in that class. Looks like two shots, is that correct? Congrats.

DJ

19-Jan-15
Might have been 3 shots. Lost count in the excitement.

From: t-roy
19-Jan-15
Great bull Mike! Congratulations!!

How bout some details about the hunt?

From: Medicinemann
19-Jan-15
Is it camera angle....or do the first and second points on the right antler share a common base? They appear separate, but do line up rather well.....

Nice bull.....!!

From: qdm
19-Jan-15
Congrats. Mike

19-Jan-15
Great bull, grats!

From: cityhunter
19-Jan-15
nice bull congrats!!

From: Bowboy
19-Jan-15
Great bull congrats!

19-Jan-15
Hey medicineman, the 1st and 2nd points are very close together for sure but the blood lines come off the main beam. Thanks

He had to have been an 8+ yr old bull. He had a huge body! I tried to pack out a whole hind quarter, hair on and it just about killed me. I could walk on flat ground with it but not uphill, probably 130 lbs. Maybe I could do it when I was 20 but not at 47 yrs old. I dropped it down, skinned it out, cut some big chunks of fat off and cut the end of the leg off and it was manageable, about 100 lbs. Couple hour hike and I was out. 5 more trips over 1 1/2 days and it was all packed out, one of my guides took one load. The cape and antlers were also a 100 lb load. That was the last one and the sweetest!

From: Jack Harris
19-Jan-15
wow! That is impressive! Congratulations. Most can only dream of something of that caliber...

19-Jan-15
Yeah me included Jack, a bull of my dreams! I have been trying to kill a 260 Poper for a couple years and then fluke into this giant. Feel very fortunate.

19-Jan-15
Great bull. Congrat's and God Bless

From: Hawkeye
19-Jan-15
Wow! Congrats!

From: Mark Watkins
19-Jan-15
Mike,

CONGRATS!!! A giant indeed!

The broadhead on the arrow that is resting on the bulls rack looks like it is missing a blade?!

Mark

From: hdaman
19-Jan-15
Awesome animal Mike! Deena and I send a distant yeehaaw!

From: hdaman
19-Jan-15
Awesome animal Mike! Deena and I send a distant yeehaaw!

19-Jan-15
Congrats on a great bull! What's your plan for a mount?

From: bhunter
19-Jan-15
Nice bull! Congrats!

19-Jan-15
semi sneak mount, left turn will fit great in the lodge

From: drycreek
19-Jan-15
Very nice ! Congrats to you !

From: Drahthaar
19-Jan-15
Good for you Great bull. Forrest

19-Jan-15
Fantastic Mike, Congrats

19-Jan-15
Hey Mark, all 3 blades were intact. It's a muzzy man! Bombproof. I was on my own when i killed it so no pics right then and I didn't want to pack my bow back in for the hero shots with my guide josh as cameraman. All I had was a broken arrow at the kill site to take pictures with, no bow.

Matthews z7 did the trick.

19-Jan-15
Awesome bull congratulations!

From: Mule Power
20-Jan-15
Before I scrolled down I guess 340. Not a bad guess I guess.

Good job Mike. Much sweeter beating the odds like that. Congrats!

From: Woodsman416
20-Jan-15
Congats Mike! Great bull!

From: woodguy65
20-Jan-15
WOW! That is an awesome bull, well done!

From: Fuzzy
20-Jan-15
congrats! Great Elk!

20-Jan-15

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Another shot of the beast.

From: Genesis
20-Jan-15
....with his elk!!! Congrats Mike!

26-Jan-15

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
2012 bull pictured above.

and here is the 2014 elk hunting story:

I have always loved to hunt elk, ever since I was introduced to it by my Dad where we hunted the famed Canmore, Alberta bow only zone, better known for it's Bighorn Sheep hunts than it's elk hunting. I began hunting rutting elk in 1981 there when I was just 14 years old. Wow, was it some awesome elk hunting! Big, bugling bulls that came right out of Banff National Park. The only problem was, we didn't know how to call them other than with some tin whistles we messed around with a bit. We just stumbled around the woods trying to shoot one, total blast though. I was part of a team effort kill on a 4 point bull that year and I was hooked for life. After high school in 1985 I spent 2 1/2 months hunting elk, bighorn sheep and muleys and I killed a giant elk, at least a giant in Alberta with a bow, a 331 gross score bull in November. Ever since then I have been trying to kill another Pope and Young class bull. The hunting in Canmore and all over the mountains in Alberta deteriorated because of housing development, wolves and fire suppression though.

I started my own outfitting business, Mike's Outfitting Ltd. in 1992 guiding bears, mule deer, moose and of course elk and then my time to hunt elk for myself became very limited. I did manage to kill 5 other bulls, including one that grossed 265 and netted 255 but nothing to make P and Y. Fast forward to 2012 after many successful elk hunts for my clients I was finally getting some time to hunt elk for myself. I got out about 10 days in 2012, called in a dozen different 4, 5 and small 6 point bulls within bow range and then finally got a 45 yard whack at a decent 6 point on Sept 29 in the general rifle season as the rut was winding down. Wasn't sure if he would make it and he didn't, 265 gross 255 net again, happy I got one though, little bummed he didn't make it.

more to come...

From: Julius K
26-Jan-15
Beauty

From: Cajunarcher
26-Jan-15
Beautiful bull! Congrats !

From: Clutch
26-Jan-15
Well Done !!!!!!!!!

From: BO-N-ARO
26-Jan-15
What a great bull!!! Congrats my man!

From: t-roy
26-Jan-15
Keep it coming Mike!

From: Dennis Razza
26-Jan-15
Very nice! Congratulations.

From: Jasper
26-Jan-15
Well done and congrats!

From: Rayzor
26-Jan-15
P&Y and Booner with a bow. Pretty awesome.

I'd be thrilled to get a 265/255 with a bow. My one and only gun kill was nice and thrilled me but likely wouldnt make that.

26-Jan-15
I know this thread is about Mike's elk but he also has FOUR Canmore archery Bighorn Rams and many "Monster Mulies"! If Mike wasn't an Outfitter he'd be one of the best known bow hunters in North America.

Fortunately Matt and I have hunted Mulies with Mike and that is something everyone should do at least once!!!

From: Barty1970
27-Jan-15
IF the nice folk at Canada's borders see fit to let me in (pretty please....I'm a really great guy), I am planning on hunting with Mike Ukraintz in the not too distant future

27-Jan-15

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
My 2013 moose.

continued from above...In 2013 I drew a moose tag and focused on moose hunting taking a nice bull on Oct 30th. Now was 2014 and I was more determined than ever to kill a Poper bull elk. A 260 inch P and Y qualifying bull is a nice benchmark in our guiding area of Northwestern Alberta. We have quite a few elk, especially in certain pockets but we also have a general rifle season that starts right in the peak of the rut Sept 17th and goes to November 30th. Over the counter tags and only a minimum 3 point rule means that most bulls are lucky to make it past 3 years old. A good bull is a 250 to 300 inch, 3 or 4 year old. On occasion you see a 300 plus inch, 5 year or older bull but they are usually very cautious and shy. With a few too many cow elk in our area the 250+ score bulls become herd bulls, tough to fool or get close to. A 260 net score bull with a bow is a big accomplishment.

In 2014 between guiding hunters I got a couple days to hunt early in September and I choose to go into a favorite area of mine, no secret honey hole or anything, just a good spot that I like to hunt. I go to the same area with my hunters fairly often but not so often that I push the elk out. If I have any secret to hunting the elk it is that I go ninja style as much as possible, full stealth mode. Which means a face mask and face paint on any exposed skin, camo gloves and leafy wear jacket, also tennis shoes, or runners as we Canadians call them. I also wear wool socks to keep my feet warm and the water can run in my shoes and back out again. Small fanny pack with just a rain coat, water bottle, a snack, matches, headlamp, elk license and a knife. Then I bugle just enough to get a bull to respond and get him located, then I sneak in close, hopefully close enough to get a look at the bull. The bush is very thick so sometimes you can't see the bull, even at less than 50 yards or I'll spot a cow and can't get any closer so I will let out a cow call or two and see how the bull responds. Some bulls will light right up from just a cow call and come right in, others just shut up and sneak off, especially in the early part of the season. Some take a bugle to really get them going, others have to be dogged for miles to get them to turn and fight. If I accidentally make some noise while sneaking in then I will make a cow call to get the bull to hopefully think I'm a cow, no threat.

more to come...

thanks for the compliments and encouragement too guys, good to know somebody is reading the story!

29-Jan-15

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Troy White from Ontario hunting elk with us last year.

and the rest of the story...

Anyway, on this fateful hunt it was a nice calm morning and I could hear three different bulls bugling off and on, more off than on. I snuck in on the closest bull and he was by himself, a small 5 pointer, I got right into 40 yards, he never had a clue I was there and I backed out. The next closest bull didn't sound very big, only a few notes and a nice musical sound to it. Not usually what I find to be a big bull so I left him alone and pressed on to the furthest away bugle. As I got closer he sounded better and better, not many notes but deep and raspy. I tiptoed in closer to where I thought he was hanging out. It can be very difficult to pinpoint where a bull is especially in an echoing river valley but I thought I was getting close. One misstep and I broke a branch, "dammit", I cursed myself. So I let out a couple of cow chirps and carefully peeked over the little ridge in front of me. My jaw hit the dirt when I saw the beast of an elk, way bigger than what I hoped he would be! It was a small but wide open clearing, good daylight and I could see his whole body and most importantly his gigantic rack. I didn't know his score and didn't care, he looked huge! He was also staring right at me. Not good.

My heart went into overdrive but I was certain he couldn't see me well, at least I prayed that he couldn't, I was sure he didn't know I was a person. It was dark and brushy where I was standing, back lit by the rising sun, he was out in the open clearing. I scrambled to ever so slowly get my range finder binoculars up to my eyes, my face mask got caught on the strap, my glasses fogged up and I started to panic a bit. "Calm down, he doesn't have a clue", I tried to tell myself but so many times on the bigger bulls they suddenly figure out something is wrong, quickly turn and leave. I got a range, 70 yds. Not great but not impossible. As everyone says, I practice a lot at that distance, he was quartering towards me anyway, no shot. There was also a few big scattered spruce trees around him and he walked in behind one of them as I got my face mask straightened out, glasses cleared off, release on my string, muscles relaxed and heart rate slowed down a bit.

Then fortune smiled on me as a cow elk chirped off to the side and behind me. The big bull walked out from behind the tree and let off an incredible, growly bugle, just a 2 note one but with that beautiful, deep, raspy sound. I was in awe, this I what it is all about, absolutely incredible! He was still quartering towards me but then he cut down the distance. I got a final reading at 67 yds, he took a few more steps angling towards me and then turned broadside. I guessed 65 and drew back, he was focused on the cow sound and I let fly. The arrow had a loud smack to it, right in the chest area. He bolted away from me and I could see about 12 inches of arrow sticking out, mid body top to bottom. As he took off, he quickly slowed, turned broadside and stood still about 120 yards away, half covered by bushes. I whipped up my binos but could not see exactly where the hit was, just that it seemed to be up front, maybe too far forward. I let out a few cow calls to hopefully keep him in place and he stood for a maybe a minute then slowly disappeared into the trees. Not good."I will leave him be for at least an hour then sneak in", I thought.

I stood in the same spot for an hour, not daring to make any noise, then I crept in to where I last saw him standing. Tons of blood! Awesome. I slowly followed the trail. "Assume he is alive though", I cautioned myself. 20 yds, 50, 100. All of a sudden he stood up out of the jungle like undergrowth. I quickly guessed the distance at 45 yds and shot my 2nd arrow. It hit right behind the shoulder but a bit high. He bolted sideways about 30 yds and I nocked another arrow, bobbed up and down searching for an opening through all the branches and shot again, perfect hit. He stood trembling and then his legs gave out and he crumpled to the ground. I was in shock, not hooping or hollering with this one.

I slowly approached the downed bull and I truly could not believe that I got him. It was like walking up on someone else's big trophy elk. I was speechless and didn't dare think how much he might score and how old he was. I must have just stood and stared at him for over 5 minutes just saying the same words over and over, ones I can't repeat here. I was absolutely overflowing with appreciation for what a giant bull he was, just a gigantic body too. I had not made a perfect shot or done anything special in my hunting method so I certainly wasn't giving myself too much praise, I was just being very thankful that I had been the one to find him before he had gathered up all his cows and had become practically unkillable, at least with a bow. Maybe even with a gun unless he was caught standing out in a farm field in November. I couldn't believe it and I was thrilled.

The six 100 lb packout trips over one and a half days was almost a whole other story but me and my guide Josh Harb got it done. My favorite load in dying daylight the next day was the last one with the 60 pound cape and the 32 pound antlers. It was two of the toughest and best hours of my hunting career! The bull officially gross scored 345 2/8 and netted 332 7/8 with 10 1/2 inch bases and 19 inch eye guards.

THE END

From: BOWUNTR
29-Jan-15
Outstanding. .. congratulations. Ed F

From: Trophy8
29-Jan-15
Mike....Congrats big time!!

You have some real nice bulls in your area, no doubt. Just wish I could have stuck one..oh well.

Think I know that area you took the pic of Troy?

Think I have one of me...lol

As a side note, Mike is very intense when hunting, he takes it seriously.

Someone once told me this about Mike, you may walk with him, BUT you won't out walk him!

Mike and his family are great.

From: midwest
29-Jan-15
Great story and bull...congrats!

29-Jan-15
Hey Trophy8, It would be great to have you back up again. Our elk and moose combo bowhunt is more refined now. We know more areas to hunt, the best way to hunt the elk in our specific area. We are even whacking a few early season moose too. I am a bit intense too, I know. haha

29-Jan-15

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Dale White with his 2014 moose. (Troy's Dad.) We called it into 35 yds on Sept 11. Wore black, acted like a moose and he went into full angry rut mode, stiff legged walk right over to Dale and he just stood and shot him, very exciting!

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