What Organization?
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Contributors to this thread:
TREESTANDWOLF 04-Aug-15
Charlie Rehor 04-Aug-15
Bigpizzaman 04-Aug-15
WV Mountaineer 04-Aug-15
deerhaven 04-Aug-15
deerhaven 04-Aug-15
gobbler 04-Aug-15
Buffalo1 04-Aug-15
PAstringking 05-Aug-15
razorhead 05-Aug-15
writer 05-Aug-15
cityhunter 05-Aug-15
PAstringking 05-Aug-15
Mike Vines 05-Aug-15
Mike Vines 05-Aug-15
PAstringking 05-Aug-15
Mike Vines 05-Aug-15
PAstringking 05-Aug-15
Mike Vines 05-Aug-15
PAstringking 05-Aug-15
TREESTANDWOLF 05-Aug-15
PAstringking 05-Aug-15
Sage Buffalo 05-Aug-15
TREESTANDWOLF 05-Aug-15
LWood 05-Aug-15
Magnus 05-Aug-15
Ollie 05-Aug-15
TREESTANDWOLF 05-Aug-15
DL 05-Aug-15
04-Aug-15
With all the bad press, and liberal BS, I am ashamed to admit, I don't belong to one single organization that supports us as bowhunters.

I have in the past, belonged to P&Y and the NRA . I'm looking for experience here and facts. Honest to god, I will have 5 fellow bowhunters do the same as soon as I hear some great feedback.

I'm sure there are many guys here on Bowsite that don't belong as well.

After reading the SCI debacle, I'm really confused.:)

Let's hear it!

04-Aug-15
I must admit my main passion is bow hunting so I don't belong to many Clubs.

I do two things, first, I belong to P&Y which supports bow hunting for future generations. I can't understand why guys hesitate to join. This is the premier organization that is focused on perpetuating North American bow hunting opportunities.

Secondly, I do business locally by TRYING to carry myself so non-hunters think I'm a pretty good guy. Other than that I consider myself a lucky guy to be benefitting from those that did that a generation or two ago! Our opportunities are already assured so I don't worth about now. I do wish we worried more about future generations in our attitudes and maybe this event will help! C

From: Bigpizzaman
04-Aug-15
Safari Club Frist For Hunters, should be taking point on this! Member or not I urge everyone to email the new President, I have and will continue to do so. His name is Phil Delone email is [email protected] !!

As Charlie says carry-on with pride and respect others, you will be respected!

04-Aug-15
I strongly recommend a Membership in the NRA. I honestly have a hard time understanding how any American that believes in the Constitution and the Bill or Rights isn't already a life member. they are the premier organization that protects our right to hunt. No Second Amendment, no hunting of any kind. It is that simple.

I think we all get fouled up when we split ranks and beat up on one another for weapons choices, etc... I am a guy that has no problems with any of them or, the freedom of choice to choose different than I do. What I can't stomach is a group that wants separation or recognition based on their choice. I'm not talking seasons. I'm talking elitist.

I'm a bowhunter when bowhunting, a rifle hunter when rifle hunting, and a muzzleloader when hunting with a muzzleloader. I don't belong to any specialist groups as they promote special interests, not hunting and, the bulk of my contributions belong in the hands of people that have the ability and inclination to protect ALL hunting.

I admit, I have been looking at my SCI membership really hard due to the way they handled this Cecil affair. And, unless they have a really good reason for dropping Mr. Palmer prematurely, I will never again renew due to the fact they dropped Walt Palmer before the facts were known.

In short, support who is supporting hunting is my opinion. I see no problems with bow only organizations AFTER/IF they are prioritized after those that protect ALL of hunting. Right now the NRA is the leader of the pack and, will likely always be. This really isn't debatable. As no one can make the claims they can for protecting our hunting rights. No matter who they are. If you are a hunter, you belong in the NRA. Period. God Bless

From: deerhaven
04-Aug-15
Over the years I have become a life member of NRA, SCI, WSF, and today became a life member of P&Y. In addition I am considering a membership in USSA since so far they the first ones I saw with the balls to speak out on national tv. Does not hurt so bad when you spread it out over the years. Problem I have now is I am getting to old to get a solid return on my investment with the life memberships. LOL!!

I disagree with all of them from time to time and do plenty of complaining but I feel as a member I have a right to complain. Not so much for the non member. Over all I would never change a thing.

Good luck with your decision.

From: deerhaven
04-Aug-15
Thanks for name and address Tim. Email sent.

From: gobbler
04-Aug-15

gobbler's Link
This is a great organization that fights for hunting rights. They have done a lot of work fighting for hunters rights in regard to polar bears, elephants, lions, as well as a lot of Asian sheep and a lot of the more common animals.

From: Buffalo1
04-Aug-15
I am a active member of P&Y, SCI,NRA, MS Bowhunters Association (Life Member), Mississippi Chapter SCI (Board Member and SCI representative on MS Wildlife Federation Board) and a member of Mississippi Wildlife Federation.

I believe in organizational unity. These is no perfect organization but look at the overall purpose and mission of an organization. These organizations help to represent me an my beliefs and values on an international, national and state level.

I encourage others to join, belong, participate and contribute. Lone wolves seldom win, but a pack is a force to be dealt with!

From: PAstringking
05-Aug-15
Phil Delone is NOT the new president. He is president elect.

Larry Higgins is the current president

From: razorhead
05-Aug-15
I mainly hunt the north, and am a supporter of the Ruff Grouse Society,,,,,, the reason is they are all about HABITAT, young forest, and that is what the deer need

From: writer
05-Aug-15
Keep looking for someone from SCI to step up on the lion/trophy hunting ordeal.

Still looking, though it sure could have slipped by me.

What has Pope and Young done to actually protect all kinds of hunting in the U.S.?

Honest question, no need to flame.

Through the years I've seen a lot of groups get involved, some have contacted me directly - they haven't been one of them.

From: cityhunter
05-Aug-15
All hunters gun/ bow need to join forces just us bow hunters alone ,we will be crushed alone ! United we stand a chance alone we fall !!!

If the big boys like NRA RMEF open there mouths then this will get the ball rolling

From: PAstringking
05-Aug-15
Rich...

Safari Club International is an organization that EVERY hunter should be a member of. You can join right now as a new member for 1 year for $35. The organization has a sole purpose of protecting hunters rights.

Just because they have NOT made a public statement or made some showboat CNN interview does not mean that they are not currently working on solutions. SCI concentrates a lot on legislation to protect our rights.

They understand that public opinion and emotion can sway like the wind...take a look at the Confederate Flag issue.

The Safari Club International FOUNDATION is a totally different entity. This organization, while supported by SCI, is mainly concentrated on conservation efforts. This is where you can support conservation projects such as research projects and conservation initiatives.

So... you should be a Member of SCI first and foremost. Secondly, you should be a member of the NRA and P&Y.

Conservation Force is another good organization to contribute money towards.

Just remember... organizations like P&Y, B&C, RMEF, Wild Turkey, ect are not protecting everyone's right to hunt on the front line, which these days happens to be in politics. Without your right to hunt...all the organizations fall.

From: Mike Vines
05-Aug-15
Has anybody ever looked into the Professional Bowhunters Society (PBS)?

We are all about bowhunting, and doing it ethicly: Traditional AND Compound.

The PBS has 20+ (I believe) bowhunts scheduled for members only just this year alone. They range from: Hogs in the South East; whitetail and bear in the North East; whitetail in the Midwest; bowfishing the Gulf Coast; Texas hog hunts; western Elk and Mule Deer; Turkey hunts around the country; Kodiak Island Alaska; Cous deer in Arizona, and that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Politics are fine for the organizations that want to tackle that. We, the PBS, are all about BOWHUNTING!!!

The PBS isn't for everyone, but you will never know unless you join. The quarterly publication, itself, is WELL worth the cost of the associate membership.

Here is a link. Let them know I, Mike Vines, sent you...

http://www.probowsociety.net/PBS/PBS_Memberships.html

From: Mike Vines
05-Aug-15

Mike Vines's Link

From: PAstringking
05-Aug-15
So Mike... what does PBS do for bowhunters? other then have exclusive hunts?

From: Mike Vines
05-Aug-15
Non stop promotion of ethical Bowhunting. Network of like-minded Bowhunters. Supports the organizations tackling the politics (safety in numbers, as mentioned earlier by another in this thread). Just to name a few

From: PAstringking
05-Aug-15
Mike... No offense but this is whats wrong with a lot of these groups. You are promoting what YOU believe to be ethical...and are against other fellow hunters who might not have the same outlook as you.

This creates a divide amongst ourselves.

From: Mike Vines
05-Aug-15
No offense taken. Just like I said in my 1st post, the PBS isn't for everyone. We are a Fraternal organization of like minded Bowhunters.

The ones who understand and see ethical Bowhunting the way we do, stay. The ones who don't, move on to find their place within another organization.

That's why there are so many different organizations out there. There is no single outfit that pleases everyone (same with websites), and I honestly believe there never will be. Find the one that makes you happy and move forward in life.

A lot of people just aren't "Joiners" of anything and chose to just ride along. That's fine too. It's how they chose to live, and as a free society, we are allowed to do just that.

From: PAstringking
05-Aug-15

PAstringking's Link

05-Aug-15
Thank you, SCI and P&Y have been selected and I'm a member as of today.

NRA has to be next. As a gun owner, this is a no brainer.

Thank you again, I will be " cattle prodding" 5 others to do the same.

Rich

From: PAstringking
05-Aug-15
Thank you Rich. Your support is appreciated.

You should come out to the convention this year in Vegas. And bring your cousin with you!!

From: Sage Buffalo
05-Aug-15
I may support this group as they have been quoted in many articles in support of hunting in many ways.

http://www.iucn.org/

I am sure they aren't prefect but they have a huge footprint, lots of scientist who support hunting when done properly and they aren't tied to hunting in any way, shape or form.

Just thought I would throw that out there since I think it's good to support both the hunting orgs but also those who support us even though they don't hunt.

Here's my fav quote from them on the Africa situation:

I’m afraid while it would be nice to be able to recommend alternative approaches for conservation that don’t involve killing animals (even those that will no longer contribute to population growth), we view trophy hunting as playing an important and generally effective role in conservation over large areas of Africa in particular, with important local livelihood benefits in some contexts, such as in Namibia.

Another:

In an ideal world rhinos wouldn’t be under such extreme threat and there would be no need for trophy hunting. However, the reality is that rhino conservation is incredibly expensive and there are huge pressures for land and protective measures; field programs that use trophy hunting as a conservation tool, can use funds raised to provide a real difference for the protection of rhino populations.

05-Aug-15
PA your welcome, I'll speak to him, we are in Iowa in December!

From: LWood
05-Aug-15
Good thread, Treestandwolf.

I am a life member of P&Y, and a member of B&C and SCI. As Deerhaven said above, I will be joining US Sportsman's Alliance (USSA) and probably DSC as well.

I have not had one person at work (most do not hunt) say one bad thing to me at work. As Charlie said, if you do it right, are ethical, and a good representative for hunting, people think/know you are a pretty good guy.

From: Magnus
05-Aug-15
I'm a life member of SCI, NRA, and some others. Am frankly very disappointed in actions of SCI in this Zim/lion debacle. Other than announcing they were suspending the members of Walt Palmer and his PH, what have they done? To my knowledge they've been silent. Same with Conservation Force. Have heard zero from them. All the while the Antis are basically carrying on unfettered by any of our various hunting/conservation organizations. It's very concerning.

From: Ollie
05-Aug-15
I'm a member of the Professional Bowhunters Society, Compton Traditional Bowhunters, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, and the Wild Sheep Foundation. No one organization is great at all things. Some are fraternal-oriented, some focus more on conservation. Which organization to join depends a lot on what you want in an organization.

05-Aug-15
Great points Ollie

From: DL
05-Aug-15
Our California State Bowhunting association does a great job. They attend all meetings of Fish and Wildlife. They report monthly in our publication everything what is going on in the state legislature that involves hunting or gun legislation. They also have s lobbyist that we support. That's the best place to start.

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