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My Yukon Black Dall
Shot at the current world record holders camp in the Yukon. We seen him the year I killed my 15 year old dall at his camp. So we made a game plan to come back the next year and take a shot at the black dall.
thanks cityhunter. he said about 1 in every 15-20 years gets that dark. So deffinatly lucky to have in my trophy room
That's a Dall's ram? Holy crap, I would've guessed a Stone for sure
great sheep regardless, congratulations!
A most awesome Fannin. The Dall is as impressive as they get too.
I see you are from Alberta; you have any Bighorns hiding in that trophy room?
LOL..... I wish... I have been hunting those big monarchs for 15 years and haven't came across one that I have felt needed to go home with me. A lot of squeekers, but none that I would take. I am deffinatly trying to get my dalls some company though. I have been drawing for a tag up by the cadomin mines, where there are about 50 world record bighorns all over that area. Hard to hunt being that mine sanctuary there. But u never know when one roams off the grounds. Heading out in few weeks again to see if I can spot one and get lucky though. Ill keep ya posted.
Other than color how does one Differentiate a Dall from a Stone or is there also a Fannin or is there a line in the mountian one side Dall one side Stone. Really I am serious, I thought color was it, perhaps not? I remember a guy was upset that his Stone was constantly mistaken for a Dall and he had to point out that the dark two inch spot near the tail and the location he shot it made it a Stone. Otherwise it was snow white Your sheep a more Beautiful one I have yet to see !!!
Beautiful ram. Congratulations!! But I think it's a fannin.
Well by colour my black dall would be classified as a stone. But if they DNA tested him he would be classified as a dall. But yes there are fannin sheep, most of them are a light - medium grey , but no where as dark as mine usually. So he is very unique. And he was the last hunt I got to go on with my good buddy Franklin Ross, which was a sheep guide for most of his life, since he was 12-13 he wrangled and then guided all over for desert sheep, big horn and dall. He was a good guy and he passed away a couple years ago in terrible sledding accident. So I was lucky enough to share that ram with him.
Wow what a great looking Ram. Congrats to you.
Wow, that's really cool. Congrats!
That is one awesome sheep! Congrats!
thx everyone. glad u enjoyed the pics and glad I can share them.
Classic north country Fannin.
Glad you got to share it with your friend.
That is as beautiful a sheep as I have ever seen!
I shot a Stone/Fannin ram in the Yukon in 1990, where yours is black, mine is dark grey, almost blue color with a black tail. The fish and game officer who plugged the horns told us that a ram can be completely white, but if it has a black tail, they classify it as stone sheep.
That is one of the most beautiful rams I have ever seen Sir. Absolutely gorgeous!!!
Franklin was a good friend of mine as well. Taken way too early. Thank you for making me think of him today.
To My good buddy Frank... One of the most avid outdoorsman ive ever met. A true sheep hunting machine!!!
Those are two great sheep. Grats.
Good luck, Robb
The area that black sheep was taken is isolated from the traditional Stone sheep country of the southern Yukon by about 300 miles. This is the traditional "Fannin" area. Figuring I would be lucky to do one sheep hunt in my life, I concentrated on what I thought was the most rare subspecies (Fannin) and was fortunate to take a ram in the hunt area right next to where this black one was. He was not as dark but at that point the darkest from that concession and all I ever dreamed. The ram was killed on a rifle hunt, I have hunted CO bighorns with my recurve without bringing one home. I am at the point where I may actually draw another sheep tag or two so am looking forward to more adventures soon.
There really is nothing that makes sense "officially" about the Fannins; I believe the DNA research actually shows them closer to Bighorns than Dalls. That make NO sense to me.
If I have the means I would have Dall, Fannin, Stone, Rocky, Cali, Nelsoni, and Mexicali!
Good luck with your Bighorn Black Bay!
thanks and hopeing to update with a big horn one day if I see one that I feel needs to go home with me that is . and very nice fannin!!!!
Congrtas BlackBay! That's the nicest sheep I've ever seen!
What a beauty Blackbay! Thanks for sharing.
Incredible. Very impressive mounts, congrats.
Beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
You make an interesting comment.....the only literature that I have ever found discussing DNA evidence on Fannins, claimed that they were more closely related to Dalls than Stones sheep.....but bighorns were never even mentioned. hmmmm......
Man. What a great looking animal
Congrats. Bill v
I had the whole report somewhere at some point.
And truly, all I care is there is one hanging on my wall and I will remember every moment of that hunt for the rest of my life until I am dribbling my oatmeal ;-)
Boys--go NOW if you ever have not done it. Prices have doubled to tripled since I went in 2002 and the same will happen as we go forward. It will not get cheaper and my salary sure has not kept up with the outfitter's!
thanks everyone for all the comments. I am just glad I could share my old black ram with everyone. Happy hunting and good luck in the future to everyone..
Beautiful ram! How far was your shot?
A stunning animal, congrats on taking him!
I don't normally go nuts over sheep but that my friend is a gorgeous animal!
Beautiful animal, congrats!!!
thank you everyone. we shot him at 55 yards. he was with a band of solid white dalls. stood out like a sore thumb. there was one white one in the band that was a real bruiser.. Maybe one day ill go back up and try for a fannin or another white one... I love sheep hunting.. Very beautiful animal to hunt and the Yukon is breath taking to just be able to see.... Happy hunting and good luck to everyone this fall!!!
Fannins and Stones are considered to be in diff parts of the Yukon...not only in the traditional Stone sheep country of southern Yukon...I have heard Fannins are in some areas now that they were not in years ago...some Fannins are light colored (a lot lighter than your ram!)...some Stones are not all very dark...your ram's markings on the legs and body sides are so defined just like a lot of Stone rams...and to many people Fannins are counted as a Stone...
So in my mind you have a great looking 1/2 Grand Slam of the Four North American Wild Sheep!
Boone and crocket and Pope and Young count Fannins as stones, if they changed that, their would be a lot of pissed off grand slammers out there I would think.
Beautiful ram! Love the colors. Hard to believe that is a Dall - Most anyone would think him a Stone.
Desert sheep actually is possible if you keep plugging away at the draws in a number of western states.
Rocky Mt. bighorns are more available than Deserts on a draw so also possible.
Stone's are gonna set anyone not from BC or the Yukon back a pretty penny. As expensive as Stone Sheep hunts are getting, that seems an impossibility to ever do that one for me - unless I move to BC. Not looking too likely, there.
That is a sweeeeeet ram. Congrats!!! Gorgeous mount too.
What an awesome trophy!! Congrats