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Contributors to this thread:
Chief 13-Oct-15
Kodiak 13-Oct-15
Bou'bound 13-Oct-15
sticksender 13-Oct-15
Kodiak 13-Oct-15
Bou'bound 13-Oct-15
Pat Lefemine 13-Oct-15
Kodiak 13-Oct-15
deerman406 13-Oct-15
patdel 13-Oct-15
midwest 13-Oct-15
midwest 13-Oct-15
midwest 13-Oct-15
Treeline 13-Oct-15
rock50 13-Oct-15
Treeline 13-Oct-15
BOHNTR 13-Oct-15
INDBowhunter2 13-Oct-15
Lucas 13-Oct-15
Mule Power 14-Oct-15
INDBowhunter2 14-Oct-15
Charlie Rehor 14-Oct-15
CTCrow 14-Oct-15
Chief 16-Oct-15
WBowhunt 16-Oct-15
Lucas 16-Oct-15
JusPassin 16-Oct-15
WBowhunt 16-Oct-15
Lucas 16-Oct-15
Lucas 16-Oct-15
BOWUNTR 16-Oct-15
R. Hale 16-Oct-15
Charlie Rehor 16-Oct-15
sticksender 16-Oct-15
Mossyhorn 16-Oct-15
StickFlicker 16-Oct-15
Ermine 16-Oct-15
David A. 17-Oct-15
1boonr 18-Oct-15
Zbone 18-Oct-15
JusPassin 18-Oct-15
Ken Taylor 19-Oct-15
5575 20-Oct-15
Genesis 20-Oct-15
Zbone 20-Oct-15
Treeline 20-Oct-15
sticksender 20-Oct-15
From: Chief
13-Oct-15
A lot of seasons are over, and a few still yet to begin.

Has anyone heard of any potential new P&Y records?

Do you think any will come out of the 2015 seasons and which ones are ripe to be dethroned?

From: Kodiak
13-Oct-15
Tough to say, but I do think Norm Johnsons typical whitetail might be at risk of being dethroned in the near future. 204 and change...

The reason I say that is because people are growing their deer now, food plots, leases, winter feeding, year round surveillance...

It's just a matter of time IMO.

From: Bou'bound
13-Oct-15
heard world record muskox came from NWT a couple weeks ago. not confirmed.

From: sticksender
13-Oct-15
There's only been one Whitetail entry in the last 10 years that's even cracked the top 10 in P&Y.

We might be "growing" a lot of 130-160 bucks, which are nice indeed. But anything netting over 190 typical is extremely rare and very special for sure. It takes a whole lot more than planting food plots to generate such a buck.

And btw, it's Mel Johnson ;-)

From: Kodiak
13-Oct-15
Where'd I come up with Norm?

Anybody heard of him? :)

From: Bou'bound
13-Oct-15
Norm Johnson is the magnificent bowyer who makes blacktail bows. absolutely the pinnacle of craftsmanship, functionality, and art.

From: Pat Lefemine
13-Oct-15
If somebody does break Mel's record God help him. The Internet will accuse him of everything from droopy ears to buying the deer from Monsanto.

From: Kodiak
13-Oct-15
"Norm Johnson is the magnificent bowyer who makes blacktail bows. absolutely the pinnacle of craftsmanship, functionality, and art."

Yep. Sorry about the gaffe. I shoot trad so I know all about those bows.

From: deerman406
13-Oct-15
I agree with Pat, you better have video evidence and the deer holding a copy of that days newspaper and a lot more. Hell I don't even talk about the deer I kill anymore because of all the idiots out there. I agree that any typical over 190"s is very rare. Shawn

From: patdel
13-Oct-15
Pats right. If you shoot anything big, dot your i's and cross your t's. People are gonna come after you. Its getting ridiculous. A kid not too far from here shot a 200 inch deer a few years back and someone stole the mount out of his house. Dont think they ever got it back. Midwest might know, it was out in his neck of the woods.

Shoot it, get it home, and keep your mouth shut would be my advice.

From: midwest
13-Oct-15

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midwest's embedded Photo
Patdel,

No, the stolen mount was never recovered. I had the pleasure of seeing the buck the day it was recovered by Brian and his dad. These pics were taken in front of the plant where I work. 253-1/8", state record archery non-typical at the time. Now #3.

From: midwest
13-Oct-15

midwest's embedded Photo
midwest's embedded Photo

From: midwest
13-Oct-15

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midwest's embedded Photo
Current #1 Iowa archery non-typical. 275-5/8"

From: Treeline
13-Oct-15
Seeing some static about a potential new world record non-typical mule deer that a friend of a friend shot this year in Utah in the Henry's. In velvet it is a lot bigger than the current WR non-typical. Will see how it finishes after drying and stripping, but has a good chance.

From: rock50
13-Oct-15

rock50's Link
Check out Jim Thome's deer........

Close, but still 10+ inches below Mel's buck

From: Treeline
13-Oct-15

Treeline's embedded Photo
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Unofficially 307 5/8". Would bust the NT mule deer record by about 30" before stripping and drying. Might just hang in there for a new WR!

From: BOHNTR
13-Oct-15
That's an awesome mule deer. It appears to be a cactus buck??? If so, they are unfortunately not eligible for B&C and/or P&Y records program......stripped velvet or not.

13-Oct-15

From: Lucas
13-Oct-15
Great buck, cactus, might be, they usually have more trash though. It will be interesting to see what happens.

From: Mule Power
14-Oct-15
I predict that Mitch Rompola will shatter all records this season.

14-Oct-15
Anyone see Jack Brittinghams typical mule deer he killed with Greg Krogh? Something like 210"+

14-Oct-15

Charlie Rehor's embedded Photo
Charlie Rehor's embedded Photo
Mel Johnson and the "Beanfield Buck" are written up in the current issue of the P&Y Ethic! The Typical Whitetail is the most sought after animal in North America and the archery record has stood since 1965! Great deer and great bow hunter!

Mel is on the right:)

From: CTCrow
14-Oct-15
Jim Thome played for my fantasy baseball team for a long time. If I didn't draft him, I would trade for him.

Nothing to do with this thread but I like the guy. ;-)

From: Chief
16-Oct-15
mule deer & musk ox posibilities so far. Any others? bear? one of the caribou? moose?

From: WBowhunt
16-Oct-15
Who cares? This has become so political and measuring has become a joke of opinions instead of standards. In my opinion B&C lost their way and purpose and P&Y are heading that way. Look at the story of the King buck. It has become a joke. They change the rules or how they interpret them. Just like the mention of cactus buck. Why don't we just measure success by overall weight of animal and stop all the bull.

From: Lucas
16-Oct-15
I think both organizations have followed their scoring rules very consistently. There may be people who want them to change but their standards have held for more than 50 years with few rule changes, the changes that have been made are made by vote of membership.

From: JusPassin
16-Oct-15
Mel took his with a recurve, shouldn't the next one be required to be taken the same way?

From: WBowhunt
16-Oct-15
But how those rules are applied is based on the opinion of the scorer and or politics. Again look at how the controversy of the King buck played out.

From: Lucas
16-Oct-15
This is off topic, but a shared base is a shared base

From: Lucas
16-Oct-15
Sorry that was the Zaft buck

From: BOWUNTR
16-Oct-15
I am definitely looking forward to seeing some new world records and hearing the great hunting stories behind them.

Fortunately God has created these great creatures and put them on this planet for us. Occasionally one of these creatures has an unusual set of antlers or horns that challenges the best of official measurers. In the end, the challenges are usually worked out. Even more rare than the challenging set of antlers/horns, are rule changes to the scoring system... which are done for the overall benefit and continuity of the scoring system. Not for an individual set of antlers/horns.

God has also created spectacular sunrises every single morning... some people are unhappy about each of those. Ed F

From: R. Hale
16-Oct-15
Very well stated.

But, what do we know about records?

16-Oct-15
Records are made to be broken!

From: sticksender
16-Oct-15
Heard today about another potential Shiras Bull Moose record contender from this season. Taken last month with a longbow. Green score in the mid-190's. Current record is in the mid-180's.

Bull Moose are fabulous quarry for bow-hunting ;-)

From: Mossyhorn
16-Oct-15
Animals only get so big. Someday records will reach a maximum potential and will cease to be broken.

From: StickFlicker
16-Oct-15
Are we allowed to vote on which of the records we don't ever want to see broken?!?! ;-)

From: Ermine
16-Oct-15

Ermine's embedded Photo
Ermine's embedded Photo
I got this picture from Tommy Clum. His uncle arrowed this with a longbow. I hope no one gets upset that I shared. But too cool of an specimen not to share. They are thinking its above the current world record!

From: David A.
17-Oct-15
"Mel took his with a recurve, shouldn't the next one be required to be taken the same way?" No, but there should arguably be a separate division in the P&Y book for recurve/longbow entries,

IThe largest elk taken with longbow/recurve is around 410 +/- and I think that is beatable.

From: 1boonr
18-Oct-15
David A.- there should also be separate division for guided and unguided, public and private land, professional and amateur, male and female hunter and youth just to name a few.

From: Zbone
18-Oct-15
"Animals only get so big. Someday records will reach a maximum potential and will cease to be broken"

Yeah, I think they are close to that now in B&C...

From: JusPassin
18-Oct-15
David A., your idea sounds like my grandsons grade school where everyone is a "winner".

It's supposed to be a out the equipment, and the animal, period.

From: Ken Taylor
19-Oct-15
As most of you know, the Pope and Young Club has a complete book that includes harvests with all types of bows, but then there is also a book available called "The Traditional Journey" for traditional bow harvests only.

And, besides white tails being in the complete book, there is also a specialized white tail book that includes more details and information.

From: 5575
20-Oct-15
Hubert Collins almost did it in 03 without even trying. Was just trying to get a doe for meat when he shot the #2 in the world. Had no idea what he had. Even lopped the head off and threw it behind the garage!

From: Genesis
20-Oct-15
Mel looks like he just got "pestered to death" poor guy...:)

From: Zbone
20-Oct-15
5575 - "Hubert Collins almost did it in 03 without even trying. Was just trying to get a doe for meat when he shot the #2 in the world"

Curious - #2 what, muley?

From: Treeline
20-Oct-15
Awesome moose!

From: sticksender
20-Oct-15
....and it's a SHIRAS

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